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Thursday, 08/07/2003 9:38:29 PM

Thursday, August 07, 2003 9:38:29 PM

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a true short story, or a song, or just words

that tree that fell in the forest
people ask
if no one heard it fall
does it make a sound, or a noise
to me is not a nonsense question
but just a person with a nonsense thought
a person not knowing if their existance exists
except for others to tell them that it does
they theyselves cannot know
if they themselves do not know themselves
obtained not from the noise of the outside
but those inner thoughts
that they hear not
like fallen trees in the forest of the mind
they choose not to be there and listen

But for those that do listen
do they listen to all the trees
or only the ones they view as healthy & strong ?
the ones that do not fall
and make sounds only of the wind blowing
and soft shifting in the soil
but not those that fall
as they must be rotten
or out-lived their usefullness
to be recycled
as their only value to-be
later
not now
let the bugs and decay feed upon them
not i
you say
and i say
using a reference not a personal attack towards you
not saying you are or are not married
but those vows some speak
"Till death do us part, during good times and bad..."
here we have a thought
i will be with you when you fall
i will listen to you fall
i will try and understand if your fall was correct
or in error
or done by you
or me
or another
i will listen
to understand
not judge you bad or good or indifference
but to add it to all the other sounds you made
and will make
parts of a whole
a zigsaw puzzle of you as a person
pieces made new everyday
every piece is you
none completed enough to say "its you"
or
do you say that piece is good
that one bad
and like fruit with a bad spot
you choose it as a bad piece in total
or do you try and understand
each piece is connected to all the other pieces
all connected into a whole of a one
someone
or
do you do a some of one
trying to seperate a one into two
the good, the bad
but
an apple is
a packaged deal
one cannot tell the store manager "I'll only buy the good part."

But then there is another story.

Unlike the apple where a rotten part exist next to a good part,
can a mind have seperate parts ?
good thoughts part
bad thoughts part
do the healthy thoughts originate from seperate parts
of the brain,
or is it better to view thoughts as not from parts,
but from a mind, a person, a one.

Can the same thoughts arrive different is a simply yes we all
know having examples each day as we confuse ourselves
not know what something means or represents.

(example)
"... you've addressed a meaningless message to me."

meaningless - a tree falls and no sound is heard

meaningless - no cause and effect for an event

meaningless - a question unrealized by another
meaningless - an answer unrealized by another

what happens before the question is a Graystone
what happens without a question is a Eric Charters

what happens without an understanding is a meaningless
but, something did happen
a tree fell
a fallen tree is not meaningless
and may not have been rotten
as some trees are fell to block another's passage
to prevent another from taking the pathway to an error
or wrong conclusion
not to stop another
just to make a noise to get their attention
that alls thats here
the fallen tree is not important
as it itself contains nothing of value
its meaningless
only stands for something
but
most think it stands for nothing
or less
to lessen something

doug

Lactose Free Milkman

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