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Intel Optane Memory Specifications
I've sure been hearing for a loooong time how great it's going to be but it never seems to happen.
TCaE
I think the message is perform proper QA on your smartphone before releasing it to market
This is actually QRE.
TCaE
By this comparison Intel looks to be nearly a full generation ahead but surprisingly (or maybe not so surprisingly) no feature there is actually near 14nm.
borusa
Hard to know how to make a comparison there.
morrowinder
I'm not being argumentative here but we seem to be saying that there isn't anything anymore that's actually 16nm, or 14nm or 10nm or 7nm and there hasn't been since Intel introduced finfets. There's nothing left to effectively measure as an industry accepted metric. It really is just the battle of the bullshit foils.
morrowinder
I guess what I'm asking is, since we went from planar transistors to trigate or finfets or whatever you want to call them, just what are we quoting now when we call a process a 22nm or 14nm or 10nm or whatever? It used to mean the channel length as drawn but now it doesn't seem to have any defined meaning anymore. Now it seems to simply be the battle of the PPT slides. One Foundry's BS against the other's. Is it gate pitch? Metal pitch? What is it?
Personally, I'd want to know the ion and ioff of the n and p transistors.
Andy
7nm AHEAD of schedule
......now risk production in Q1 2017
What is it that's actually 7nm other than the headline?
Andy you're not making any sense and there's no need to be antagonistic.
TCaE
I obviously can't argue with his statement but I would think Intel could depreciate it over a much longer time frame than equipment, but what do I know? Sorry to make you do all the leg work. That was not my intention.
willco
That is true but I still think that TCE's point is more significant. Intel knows how to manage this issue
I don't think a huge fab standing empty for years is an example of good management. I do think it is being depreciated though but on a much longer schedule than equipment would be.
TCaE
The building wasn't free. Surely that can and is being depreciated.
TCaE
The "Intel has excess capacity" meme is getting really tiresome as it's simply not true
As long as that mega fab in Ocatillo stays empty, how can you say otherwise?
GB
Are you sure?
I am old enough to not be sure of anything.
GB
No. Intel was denied it's appeal for a trial.
Don't spam this board.
It is long past the time that the US should recognize that Europe does this to US companies they cannot compete with.
It's long been recognized here.
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SANTA CLARA, Calif., Sept. 19, 2016 – Intel Corporation today announced the appointment of Robert “Bob” H. Swan as executive vice president and chief financial officer (CFO), effective October 10, 2016. Swan will report to Intel CEO, Brian Krzanich and oversee Intel’s global Finance and IT organizations as well as the Corporate Strategy Office. He replaces Stacy Smith who, as previously announced, is taking a broader role within Intel leading manufacturing, sales and operations. Smith served nine years as Intel’s CFO.
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You could say the same about the USD. That's where people go for safety. Someday it will fail but that day could be a long way off. Who's to say that some day gold won't fail too? What is it about gold and silver that makes them valuable other than people's trust? Yes, they have industrial value but not enough to support their current value. Their value is mostly blue sky just like the USD. I say that with a vault holding precious metals because I know people will still value them.
136
Tell me why you think PROMISARY notes backed by NOTHING are going to retain or gain value?
I wouldn't say they are backed by nothing. They're backed by the FFaC (full faith and credit of the US Government). Exactly how that differs from nothing I'll let the reader decide for themselves. Currently the market gives that at least some value. Let me ask you this though. What magical value does gold or silver have other than the value that people give it and how does that differ from the value that people give to the FFaC of the US Government? Clearly there is some industrial value but what value other than that?
Don't that this as a hit piece. I have a vault with precious metals in it.
fink
Trump demands US to become energy independent
One can only scratch their head and wonder why anyone wouldn't insist we become energy independent. With us, Canada and Mexico we have all we need and we wouldn't have to send $$Billion$$ off to people who hate and want to kill us and send our young people over there to be killed defending those same despots. It's insanity. Simply insanity.
Doesn't Intel have a poison pill?
Cool!
TCaE
Hard to discuss a company with out mentioning it's competitors once or twice in a while
Yes, it's important so I agree, as long as it doesn't dominate the board.
TCaE
Geekbench is just wonky about detecting L3$
Maybe so but it would not be at all unusual for a chip of this complexity to have issues at this early stage of debug. The added SMT is even more complexity and something needs to explain this poor performance.
TCAE
It looks like Zen has L3 cache problems and had to be disabled.
Maybe Apple will get fed up and leave Ireland and Ireland will get fed up and Irexit?
Sorry Charlie I don't think anyone here cares but maybe you can find some poor sucker to get a rise out of
I don't think anyone's that dumb.
Board
The "mod squad" has been going through posts and decimating any with the slightest hint of off-topic, personal attack, etc you name it.
There's nothing I can do so be aware.
Unkwn
His reasoning about costs of Intel being lower due to rumors Otellini not having wanted to produce chips for the first iPhone due to costs really is weak
That wasn't a rumor, Otellini said as much, but he said the high cost was based on the lower projected volumes at the time.
Andy
problem for "investors" on this board is that they are married to Intel.......
I don't think that's the case anymore. Maybe once but not now.
Using myself as an example, I hold nearly 20 different positions long term and trade another 20. INTC is not in my top 5 but it is still a substantial position. This is the Intel board you know.
Joseph
t is basically the same argument as here
Not quite. The article doesn't mention the compiler.
AMD picked the one application/Benchmark that would allow them to select compiler options. It would be possible to turn options on or off to bypass architectural problems. AMD did not publish the compiler switches or system configuration. I wonder why?
Some thoughts of recent AMD Zen benchmarks
It occurred to me that AMD's recent demo of Zen running an opensource application against Broadwell may reveal more than AMD wanted. The demo showed Zen beating Broadwell by 1-2% while Broadwell was hobbled down to the same 3GHz and turbo mode turned off. Naturally the Faithful went wild with excitement but I thought about it, why would AMD chose a single opensource application to use to compare with Broadwell? Then it became clear.
#1 Without publishing the system configuration or compiler options, no one can verify their results. Had they used a standard benchmark,anyone could see if they get the same results. I suspect they wouldn't See #2
#2 It would not be at all unusual for Zen to still have bugs at this stage of debug that need compiler switches to turn off features or capabilities. Only with a custom benchmark can AMD accomplish this without telling the world what does or still does not yet work on Zen.
I notice that seeking article was by E. Phred, any relation?
Nope. Not me.
Re: 3DXpoint
I remember Paul Otellini saying phase change memory would ship for revenue "late this year". That was about 10 years ago...
Andy
if this keeps up, I will seriously have to redo my entire retirement financial plan
AMD has gone way up before and may again, for all we know. They've also crashed from their highs and could again for all we know. I would personally avoid such a risky investment with retirement funds, especially a percentage big enough to move the needle because that large a stake can move the needle either way.
It's your money. Just my 2 cents.
Bozo
illegal now by Intel's Agreement with the DOJ
Wrong again, just like you've been wrong for year after miserable year you keep repeating this nonsense. What you falsely claim Intel did has always been illegal. Your problem is you can't accept that Intel never did what you claim in the first place. When are you going to give this decade old nonsense up? It's over. You lost and there's nothing you can ever do about it. Dragging it on for a whole decade is sick and off topic here. Get over it.
Chipmaker expects to deliver new version of the Xeon Phi processor next year
Intel Corp. signaled it wants a bigger role in artificial intelligence, revealing plans to modify a line of chips to target a fast-growing market turning into a battleground for technology suppliers.
The company (INTC) told technology developers Wednesday that it plans next year to deliver a new version of the Xeon Phi processor--a product line previously targeted at scientific applications--with added features designed to accelerate tasks associated with what Silicon Valley calls artificial intelligence.
Intel said the technology will help accelerate a technique called deep learning, increasingly used for tasks such as interpreting speech, identifying objects in photos and piloting autonomous vehicles.
(https://w.graphiq.com/w/jGVdUXFUhsF)
Intel says Xeon Phi can run most analytic software without tapping external processors that can slow analytical tasks, something it bills as a key advantage over other approaches. Executives added that it can also make use of more memory than GPU-based approaches.
In another announcement at its annual forum, Intel disclosed that is delivering the first optical-networking components that have resulted from a 16-year effort to use silicon in place of other materials to reduce manufacturing costs. The company said components designed to deliver 100 gigabits of data a second are now on sale.
An expanded version of this report appears at WSJ.com (http://www.wsj.com/articles/intel-unveils-plans-for-artificial-intelligence-chips-1471462581/?mod=mktw).
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Bozo
It should make Intel/AMD chip architecture comparison easier
What's so difficult now? Intel good, AMD bad. It doesn't get much simpler than that...
chipguy
You're right. Someone is going to fab those ARM devices so Intel might as well use some of it's idle capacity and take some revenue away from TSMC etc.
muzohub
I can only hope at this point that it doesn't hurt x86 sales but only time will tell.