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enough already said! im not happy about it but the man has a right to work and more talent than anybody on their team now
its ok for mexico to put troops on their border, but we cant put any on ours?! WTF!
DDG 1000 project quietly logs successes
By Christopher P. Cavas - Staff writer
Posted : Monday Aug 17, 2009 14:18:25 EDT
Nearly every discussion of the new DDG 1000 Zumwalt-class destroyers revolves around the Navy’s decision last summer to “truncate” the planned buy from seven ships to three.
Or around cost projections that foresee figures wildly in excess of the stated $3.3 billion goal.
Or around whether the land-attack capability of the ships is still needed in the new national strategy now taking shape under the Quadrennial Defense Review.
Often overlooked in all the chatter is that, methodically, steadily — and even quietly — major components of the first ship are taking shape all across the country. When ready, the parts will be shipped largely by barge and rail to the General Dynamics Bath Iron Works shipyard at Bath, Maine, where, since February, shipbuilders are welding together the steel that make up the ship’s 600-foot-long hull.
The ship will be packed with new technology, from its weaponry to the engines to the radars and more. Capt. James Syring, DDG 1000 program manager, recently ticked off progress on 13 major engineering development models, all but three of which have begun production.
Done with development are BAE’s 155mm Advanced Gun System and its bullet, Lockheed Martin’s Long Range Land Attack Projectile. The gun is being built in Louisville, Ky., and its carriage in Minneapolis. Last month, the LRLAP was fired at a White Sands, N.M., test range to its threshold range of 63 miles, and further “tweaking” of the rocket motor’s chemistry should push the shell 10 miles farther, Syring said.
The Advanced Vertical Launch System is in production at Raytheon, and seven of eight Peripheral VLS modules are being welded together at Bath. Development of the composite deckhouse has ended, and Northrop Grumman is building the ship’s superstructure at Gulfport, Miss.
“We’re well into production at Gulfport,” Syring said, pointing to a picture of the completed 150-foot O-4 deck. “They had a .01 percent defect rate on this panel — the largest contiguous composite panel in the ship.”
The infrared suppression engine exhaust and heat suppression system completed development after four major at-sea tests. The components of the Integrated Power System are in production, including Alstom’s Advanced Induction Motor and Rolls-Royce’s MT-30 gas turbine generators. The ship’s automatic fire suppression system also is in production, as are portions of the SQQ-90 integrated undersea warfare system.
Development of the unique tumblehome hull form is finished, Syring said, although testing to establish safe operating procedures will continue even after the ship enters service in 2015. “It won’t complete until we take the ship through a heavy weather trial and get correlation between all the testing that’s been done,” he explained.
Radar systems progressing
Development work continues, Syring said, on the SPY-3 Multi-Function Radar, the SPY-4 Volume Search Radar and the Total Ship Computing Environment.
Both radars — which together form the Dual Band Radar led by prime contractor Raytheon — have been installed together since January at the Wallops Island Engineering Center on the Virginia coast. Early on, the radars were tracking aircraft targets of opportunity, Syring said. Aircraft test runs began this summer and will continue into the fall, he added.
The SPY-3, an X-band radar, completed at-sea testing in the spring of 2008 off the California coast aboard the test ship Paul F. Foster, a former Spruance-class destroyer. The first two SPY-3 arrays are being assembled, Syring said, and Raytheon began testing of the first array in June at Andover, Mass.
“Minor production issues” on the MFR have been worked through, Syring said. “We’ve had no operational issues.”
Below-deck components of the SPY-4, an S-band radar developed by Lockheed, are in full-rate production, and six arrays — for the Zumwalt and also for the aircraft carrier Gerald R. Ford — are under contract.
“I’m not aware of any VSR issues,” Syring said. “It’s S-band, it’s well understood, and Lockheed does a good job with S-band.”
Work on the ship’s computing environment also continues.
“Software development continues to go well. We’re much greater than 50 percent done at this point,” Syring said. “We’re pretty modular in terms of the electronics of the combat system and the network,” he added.
Design work is also approaching completion. “Of the three-dimensional models, 90 of 94 are completely released for structure and outfitting drawing extraction. Locked down. The remaining four will be done by September. So we’re out of the model business,” he declared.
Design maturity is a major factor in the Navy’s long-standing insistence that the DDG 1000 program will be held to budget. And Syring seemed confident that his program is performing as it should.
“I track every week variances to that amount” under contract, he said. “And we are right where we need to be. Is it perfect, 100 percent? No. Is it within single-digit percentages of where we need to be? Yes.”
Syring also took pains to specifically address the radar.
“Are you experiencing massive cost growth on radar? No. In production. MFR, we know what that costs … it’s right where it needs to be. And when I say it needs to be, I mean 1.0 in terms of what we put under contract and what they’re performing to.”
Responding to unofficial comments that the DDG 1000 program is experiencing significant cost growth, Syring bristled.
“I do not have cost growth on contracts right now,” he said. “If I had major variances and we were overrunning by tens of millions of dollars — one, it would be visible to people who watch this, and two, I probably wouldn’t have time to sit here and talk with you right now.
“Do we have challenges within our lifeline? Every day. But that’s the job of the program manager.”
The people side
It will still be several years before the Zumwalt will be manned by sailors, but Pentagon analysts reported earlier this year concerns about the need for most personnel to be qualified when they report aboard because of the small crew, as well as the high number of clearances crew members will need.
“The way we’ve structured the design of the Ship Mission Center is that it’s severable and operable at any security level the commanding officer or commodore want that ship to operate at,” program manager Capt. James Syring said. “We can operate it at a secret level, we can operate parts of the SMC at a secret level and other parts at the top secret or [Sensitive Compartmented Information] level. We can operate it all at the top secret level. We can operate it all at the unclassified level.”
Crew training already is part of the DDG 1000 plan, Syring said.
“We worked with the training community [to determine] exactly what the training pipeline for sailors is going to be. We can tell you down to the first billet what the first officer and first enlisted billet code is going to be and what the training pipeline is going to be to get them to the ship. I think we’re out in front of that.”
Sailors still have time to work on their qualifications to be among the first to serve on the ship.
“We start to man up in earnest in 2011, early 2012 — start phasing people to the shipyard,” Syring said. And the prospective commanding officer — who will be a commander — “will be chosen probably in a couple of years from now.”
http://www.militarytimes.com/news/2009/08/navy_zumwalt_081709w/
Man carrying assault weapon attends Obama protest
By AMANDA LEE MYERS and TERRY TANG, Associated Press Writers Amanda Lee Myers And Terry Tang, Associated Press Writers – Mon Aug 17, 6:22 pm ET
PHOENIX – About a dozen people carrying guns, including one with a military-style rifle, milled among protesters outside the convention center where President Barack Obama was giving a speech Monday — the latest incident in which protesters have openly displayed firearms near the president.
Gun-rights advocates say they're exercising their constitutional right to bear arms and protest, while those who argue for more gun control say it could be a disaster waiting to happen.
Phoenix police said the gun-toters at Monday's event, including the man carrying an AR-15 semi-automatic rifle slung over his shoulder, didn't need permits. No crimes were committed, and no one was arrested.
The man with the rifle declined to be identified but told The Arizona Republic that he was carrying the assault weapon because he could. "In Arizona, I still have some freedoms," he said.
Phoenix police Detective J. Oliver, who monitored the man at the downtown protest, said police also wanted to make sure no one decided to harm him.
"Just by his presence and people seeing the rifle and people knowing the president was in town, it sparked a lot of emotions," Oliver said. "We were keeping peace on both ends."
Last week, during Obama's health care town hall in Portsmouth, N.H., a man carrying a sign reading "It is time to water the tree of liberty" stood outside with a pistol strapped to his leg.
"It's a political statement," he told The Boston Globe. "If you don't use your rights, then you lose your rights."
Police asked the man to move away from school property, but he was not arrested.
Fred Solop, a Northern Arizona University political scientist, said the incidents in New Hampshire and Arizona could signal the beginning of a disturbing trend.
"When you start to bring guns to political rallies, it does layer on another level of concern and significance," Solop said. "It actually becomes quite scary for many people. It creates a chilling effect in the ability of our society to carry on honest communication."
He said he's never heard of someone bringing an assault weapon near a presidential event. "The larger the gun, the more menacing the situation," he said.
Phoenix was Obama's last stop on a four-day tour of western states, including Montana and Colorado.
Authorities in Montana said they received no reports of anyone carrying firearms during Obama's health care town hall near Bozeman on Friday. About 1,000 people both for and against Obama converged at a protest area near the Gallatin Field Airport hangar where the event took place. One person accused of disorderly conduct was detained and released, according to the Gallatin Airport Authority.
Heather Benjamin of Denver's Mesa County sheriff's department, the lead agency during Obama's visit there, said no one was arrested.
Arizona is an "open-carry" state, which means anyone legally allowed to have a firearm can carry it in public as long as it's visible. Only someone carrying a concealed weapon is required to have a permit.
Paul Helmke, president of the Washington, D.C.-based Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, said people should not be allowed to bring guns to events where Obama is.
"To me, this is craziness," he said. "When you bring a loaded gun, particularly a loaded assault rifle, to any political event, but particularly to one where the president is appearing, you're just making the situation dangerous for everyone."
He said people who bring guns to presidential events are distracting the Secret Service and law enforcement from protecting the president. "The more guns we see at more events like this, there's more potential for something tragic happening," he said.
Secret Service spokesman Ed Donovan said armed demonstrators in open-carry states such as Arizona and New Hampshire have little impact on security plans for the president.
"In both cases, the subject was not entering our site or otherwise attempting to," Donovan said. "They were in a designated public viewing area. The main thing to know is that they would not have been allowed inside with a weapon."
Representatives of the National Rifle Association did not return calls for comment.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090817/ap_on_re_us/us_obama_protesters_guns
this might not have happened if he had cnc permit allowing him to carry a weapon
Milwaukee mayor wounded after being hit with pipe
MILWAUKEE, Wis. – Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett was in the hospital on Sunday after he was attacked by a person using a metal pipe as the mayor and his family left the Wisconsin State Fair.
Barrett was in stable condition Sunday at a local hospital and was alert and talking when he arrived there on Saturday night, the Milwaukee Police Department said in a statement. It did not provide more details, and a spokeswoman for the police department did not have any further information.
Police said Barrett was leaving the state fair on Saturday night when he heard a woman crying out for help in the city of West Allis, about six miles west of Milwaukee.
Police said Barrett began calling 911 when the suspect who was attacking the woman charged at the mayor and began hitting him with a metal pipe. The suspect then fled the scene, authorities said.
The woman was not injured, and police were still searching for the suspect, who has a criminal arrest record, authorities said.
No other details were immediately available Sunday.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_milwaukee_mayor_attacked
just talking to my cousin who works for the local super walmart, she says they have a very large stock of all the ammo they usually carry. and see no reason to run out soon
ukraine is a tougher foe than georgia, since they build their own equipment. and its the same equipment that russia uses.
i dont doubt russia could pull it off, would it be worth the cost?
The VIP Flight Goes To War
August 14, 2009: The U.S. Congress recently tried to sneak an order for eight VIP (Very Important People, like members of Congress) air transports into the current defense budget. These aircraft would cost $550 million. The media jumped on this and the order was, for the moment, withdrawn. Congress tried to work out a compromise, by cutting the order in half (to a Gulfstream V and three Boeing 737s) for VIP work. But the media storm continued to grow, and the entire order was withdrawn.
The air force currently has three VC-9Cs (DC-9s bought in the 1970s), five C-20s (Gulfstream IIIs), five C-37s (Gulfstream Vs), two VC-25s (two Boeing 747s for the use of the president, as "Air Force One"), four C-32s (Boeing 757s, "Air Force Two" for use by the vice president, and members of Congress) and ten C-40s (Boeing 737s, used by air force generals as well as members of Congress) serving, at least some of the time, as a VIP unit.
But with over 500 VIPs (members of Congress, cabinet officials and so on), there are never enough VIP transports to go around. Moreover, members of Congress only get access to these VIP aircraft about ten percent of the time (the aircraft are in use). And then only for official business. If a VIP aircraft is not available, the Congress member might take a chance and accept a ride on a corporate jet (the media loves to jump all over that), or, in extremis, fly commercial.
All the military services have always had VIP transports, or at least small passenger/cargo aircraft used for emergency shipments of cargo, and people. These aircraft serve a critical function, especially in wartime. And that's where the problem really lies. Since September 11, 2001, the dozens of military VIP aircraft have shifted to wartime mode. That is, they spend most of their time moving critical personnel and cargo, badly wounded troops, and anyone or anything essential to the war effort. In peacetime, the VIP aircraft spend a lot more of their time moving VIPs (there being few emergencies to interfere with that.) But with a war on, the VIPs have been suffering, and the $550 million for more VIP transports was an effort to ease that pain.
http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htairmo/articles/20090814.aspx
done and done
i hope that guy gets his ass kicked the next time he walks in a bar. if that guy felt threatened by her, he should turn in his badge for being a pussy. i never saw her make a threatening move
lol! i will say im a very picky eater, so some parts of the pig arent for me
cant understand how some people dont eat pork for religious reasons, bacon is better than sliced bread!
sounds like a great store, be nice to have one around here like that.
a friend was up in Rhinelander, WI and stopped at the walmart. walmart has alot of boxes of 7.62x39 and 9mm for $9.95 a box.
you to brother!
we have a grocery store like that, its called Woodman's. but its a pain in the ass to shop at because everybody is there
ok, you have been drinking, which is expected of a packer fan. he knows my alias on talkzilla. and my other point was that i wasnt going to catch up to him much less you, which is a compliment to the both of you, and enjoy while you can. lol
but you have heard of them. first time i heard of a Bi-Mart. it just seems like an odd name for a grocery store.
and bacon comes from the pig, gotta love the bacon
how late are you to the game?! lol
PS i sure he isnt worried about me catching up. either are you. lol
i know this isnt PC, but that name isnt normal for a store in my area of the country
thanks, glad to know i have some support
not mixed together, but ill eat and drink them at the same time
right now i work in chicago and they are bragging on the radio that they were going to get 35,000 to their scrimmage. we had 50,000 to a game that didnt happen. i think we have more than just a us lining up. lol
and me and you are probably the only ones who can watch it locally
there is really a store called Bi-Mart?! not sure what to think of that. it seems like a very odd name for a store that isnt a dollar store
will do!
i was thinking modern materials and sensors and such. the plane probably needs to be a prop plane to be able to do a slow burn over the battlefield, think miny A-10
this idea just shows his ignorance. in the middle of 2 wars he decides that they should pay for their own health care, he might want to try that during a long duration of peace time. it wouldnt work then either, because us Americans know who butters our bread. it just shows how much disdain he has for the men and women who protect this country and our freedom
my answers are, and they are probably very wrong
1 a
2 b
3 e
4 b
5 b
he would go down as the worst CNC in history if he managed to cut off govt health care for our vets, and not be reelected to any major office outside of chicago.
he wont get this passed IMO
USAF Plots Needs for a Fantastic Future
Aug 12, 2009
Bill Sweetman
One of the most ambitious forecasting projects of late is the U.S. Air Force’s Blue Horizons II, which wrapped in 2008, and was presented at a conference here in May by Col. John Geis, director of the Center for Strategy and Technology at Maxwell AFB, Ala.
Ambitious? How does a giant nuclear-powered flying laser sound; or a hypersonic bomber that launches satellites; or a tactical fighter firing laser and microwave beams?
The project began in 2005 because 10 years had passed since the last such venture, Air Force 2025. Conducted by USAF’s Air University, Blue Horizons II was led by seven faculty members aided by 49 researchers. Seven out of 10 people involved, Geis notes, were “rated operators” of Air Force systems.
The goal was to determine what technologies USAF would be best advised to support. The starting point was a range of possible future scenarios for global conflict. The next step was to evaluate capabilities, from the near-term to the futuristic, in each scenario. Finally, the team looked at what basic technologies would be needed to provide those capabilities.
The team picked four scenarios: a peer China, Middle East jihadist insurgency, failed state and a resurgent Russia. No real surprises. Geis emphasized that “China will be the supreme power on earth by 2040.” The study envisioned China having the world’s largest GDP by 2030, although “militarily it will take some time after that for them to catch up.” Internal dissent and China’s demand for energy and food will be potential sources of international friction.
One surprise was a finding that runs counter to accepted wisdom at top levels of the Pentagon: The same capabilities, by and large, proved to be most valuable in all scenarios—that is, there was no dichotomy between low-tech counterinsurgency weapons and what the Air Force would use to discourage antisocial behavior by China’s future leaders. Where there was a difference, it was for specific reasons. The study participants, for example, don’t expect non-state actors to develop counterspace weapons, so systems that were aimed at defeating such attacks scored low in insurgent and failed-state scenarios.
The overall top-scoring weapon concept was a UAV dubbed Pathfinder, an autonomous, stealthy vehicle incorporating powerful electronic jamming arrays, which could launch and control smaller UAVs, or operate as an autonomous wingman to manned aircraft.
Second on the list was a “cyberspace UAV,” an autonomous antivirus program that propagates over the Internet and detects cyberthreats before they affect U.S. defense systems.
After that came three lasers: a hybrid high-energy laser based in the U.S. and directed by spaceborne mirrors to destroy soft-to-medium ground targets; a space-based, solar-charged solid-state laser for missile defense; and a future airborne laser (FAL).
FAL is a huge nuclear-powered flying wing with a range of 80,000 naut. mi. that is capable of engaging soft targets like missiles at several hundred kilometers. Geis accepts that airborne nuclear power could be a political nonstarter, but says FAL would also be feasible with advanced conventional propulsion.
Of the top 10 concepts, five were unmanned vehicles and five used directed-energy weapons (DEW). Only five were kinetic attack systems and three of those were supercruisers or faster—the study found that a supersonic bomber was more valuable than a subsonic design. Another widely applicable use of DEW was aircraft self-defense, which ranked as the second most important group of technologies in the AF2025 study and placed third in Blue Horizons II.
The team also looked at threats such as high-powered microwave (HPM) weapons. “In 20 years, our current expeditionary concept becomes obsolete because canvas isn’t HPM-proof,” argued Geis.
The most challenging discovery concerned the need for technologies to make some capabilities work. “We hoped to show that a small number of technologies would enable many of these capabilities,” said Geis, and that proved true to a point. Out of 170-plus technologies evaluated, 35-40 were broadly applicable.
But all of the capabilities demanded unique or near-unique technologies. Even the top-scoring Pathfinder needed six otherwise low-value technological enablers. The result, in Geis’s view, is that the Pentagon in general, and USAF in particular, will need to retain a strong, focused technology program to protect national security in the decades ahead.
http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story.jsp?id=news/DTI081209.xml&headline=USAF%20Plots%20Needs%20for%20a%20Fantastic%20Future&channel=defense
seems to me that the chicoms are afraid we will get to far ahead of them if we start defending our assets in space now. and they are depending on an anti military administration cowing to their demands.
and does anyone believe the chicoms arent advancing their own space weapons as fast as they can?
China warns against missile defence systems
China's foreign minister, Yang Jiechi. Photo courtesy of AFP.
by Staff Writers
Geneva (AFP) Aug 12, 2009
China's foreign minister warned on Wednesday that there was a "looming danger" of an arms race in outer space, as he urged countries not to deploy missile defence systems that could undermine global security.
"The practice of seeking absolute strategic advantage should be abandoned," Yang Jiechi told the Conference on Disarmament in Geneva.
"Countries should neither develop missile defence systems that undermine global strategic security nor deploy weapons in outer space," he added.
US President Barack Obama has been reviewing a planned missile defence shield championed by his predecessor, which remains a major source of tension with Russia.
The Obama administration has not backed down from the shield, which would partly be based in Poland and the Czech Republic, but insists that is not directed against Russia.
Russia's air force commander said on Monday that Moscow was developing new missiles to counter space-based systems that could soon be deployed by the United States.
"Outer space is now facing the looming danger of weaponisation," said Yang.
"Credible and effective multilateral measures must be taken to forestall the weaponisation and arms race in outer space," he added, calling such steps of "high strategic significance."
Both Russia and China have proposed a new treaty banning the use of weapons in space, but the idea has been rejected by the United States.
Nonetheless, the issue is one of those up for international discussion under the Conference on Disarmament's recent landmark decision to revive talks after more than a decade of deadlock.
In a speech reaffirming China's commitment to international nuclear weapons safeguards and disarmament, Yang backed attempts to strengthen the Vienna-based International Atomic Energy Agency and to stop the spread of nuclear weapons.
"The international security situation is undergoing the most profound change since the end of the Cold War," Yang acknowledged. "Unprecedented opportunities now exist in international disarmament."
Yang reiterated China's insistance on a peaceful resolution of the nuclear standoffs with North Korea and Iran, and called on the IAEA to play a greater role in promoting the peaceful use of nuclear energy.
That should include "the possibility of establishing a multilateral nuclear fuel supply mechanism," he added. Western countries have been sceptical of the idea proposed by Russia.
The Chinese foreign minister stopped short of signalling Beijing's swifter ratification of a ban on nuclear tests.
"The Chinese government is dedicated to promoting early ratification of the treaty and will continue to make active efforts toward this end," Yang said, pledging to work with the international community for "early entry into force."
Although China was amongst the first to sign the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty, it is one of nine nations that are preventing its entry into force because they have either not ratified or signed it.
The only other traditional nuclear power not to have ratified is the United States.
However, Obama announced in April that he wanted to press ahead with US ratification, reversing the stance of George W. Bush's administration.
The other outstanding ratifications are Egypt, Indonesia, Iran and Israel.
India, Pakistan, and North Korea have not signed the test ban treaty, which is regarded as a cornerstone of efforts to stop the spread of nuclear weapons and promote disarmament.
http://www.spacewar.com/reports/China_warns_against_missile_defence_systems_999.html
The USAF Rodeo
August 12, 2009: For over half a century, the U.S. Air Force has hosted a competition, every two years, among military air transport crews. The Air Mobility Rodeo this year included a hundred teams (2,500 personnel), mainly from the United States, but also seven foreign nations. The main events include; Aerial Port, Aeromedical Evacuation, Aircrew, Fit to Fight, Maintenance, and Security Forces.
There are several aircraft types competing (C-5, C-130, C-17, KC-10, and KC-135). One of the more prestigious prizes is for speed and accuracy of air drops. This year, that award was won by an Israeli C-130 crew. South Korea won the award for best foreign team. Several nations sent teams just to observe, and get a sense if they had a chance of eventually competing. The foreign teams like the opportunity to see American air mobility operations up close, and American crews like the chance to get together and see how different aircraft types operate, and simply meet others in the air mobility business.
The first Air Mobility Rodeo was held in 1956, while the first one involving air drops took place in 1962. Thirty years ago, foreign crews and aircraft were first invited to compete. There was no competition in 1988 because of money shortages, and in 2001-4 wartime demands on the U.S. military transport fleet caused the Rodeo to be cancelled.
http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htairmo/articles/20090812.aspx
China Builds Big Floaters
August 11, 2009: China is buying four Zubr hovercraft from Ukraine. The 555 ton watercraft were developed by the Soviet Union during the 1980s. But when the Soviet Union dissolved in 1991, three years after the first Zubr entered service, the shipyard the built the Zubrs went to Ukraine, where it was located. After years of marketing the Zubr, Ukraine finally got its first export sale, to Greece, in 2000. Before that, only four were in service (two in the Russian Navy, and two in the Ukrainian.) These craft are expensive. The Greeks paid $50 million each for four of them. When the Chinese order is completed in the next three years, there will be 14 Zubrs in service.
The Zubrs can carry about 150 tons of cargo, including tanks (three of them). Alternately, ten smaller armored vehicles can be carried, or trucks, or up to 500 troops. The big advantage of the Zubr is that it moves over coastal waters at speeds of up to 110 kilometers an hour (nearly a hundred kilometers an hour sustained.) Range is about 480 kilometers, mainly because a craft like this consumes enormous quantities of fuel. Armament consists of a 30mm autocannon for defense against anti-ship missiles, and two quad launchers with SA-N-5 anti-aircraft missiles (with 6,000 meter range.) Zubr is also designed to carry 140mm unguided rockets, or up to 80 naval mines. Zubrs have a crew of 31, and usually stay at sea for less than six hours per sortie.
The Chinese are buying two Zubrs to be built in Ukraine, and another two built in China, with the help of Ukrainian engineers and technicians. Apparently the Chinese are buying, licensing or stealing the Zubr construction technology. China is paying about $80 million each for their Zubrs. China has a long coast, and the Zubrs will have plenty to do. The Zubrs will be something else for Taiwan to worry about, and would come in handy if the communist government in North Korea collapsed, and China wanted to rush in forces to seize ports along the west coast of the Korean peninsula.
http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htsurf/articles/20090811.aspx
point will do that to you. LMAO!
a revamped P-51 would be cool, i wonder if its feasible?
that i would agree with, but point was one of the cheapest to buy
miller is also owned by a canadian company
i grew up in WI and any beer that gives you the shits before u get used to it, is to be avoided. beer is beer, we all like different brands, but if someone hands you a beer and you dont drink that is sacrilege. unless its one of those candy ass micro brews.
will do on the hello. you might want to put a few more in there cause ill be around quite often. lol
i had a full weekend and didnt get a chance to throw anything in there.
Nitro must have deleted all the stuff he put in there