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I'm leaving to Alaska in a couple hours. I tried to warn everyone but apparently it's not working. Keep conning people at your own risk. You are being watched by more than just me. No, not "Terry." I'm not sure how any of you people sleep at night but you better start getting some good night sleeps now because some of you probably won't be able to in federal prison.
The clock is ticking. Soon you people will log into your trading accounts and find that all trading for ECSL will be suspended for illegal marketing. You will NOT BE ABLE TO SELL YOUR STOCK even if you wanted to. This suspension can last years. During that time the people running this scam will start another one. New "company" with a new ticker symbol. Your portfolio will show the ECSL ticker and you will see no bid and no ask for a very long time. The ticker symbol might even go away and replaced with an ID number. This is the end result for most of these pump and dumps. I hope you are all prepared for this highly likely outcome.
Stockholder update is NOT AN OFFICIAL PRESS RELEASE as defined by the SEC and cannot be discussed by anyone associated with the company on a public board to influence buying/selling of stock.
ILLEGAL PUMP AND DUMP
The fact is that you people are ALWAYS talking about stuff on this public board that has not been disclosed in any official press release. Highly illegal and typical pump and dump activity. You are all being watched and everything has been screen shot. If there was any REAL, LEGITIMATE and/or TRUE information being said on this board by a REAL and LEGITIMATE company, those running the show would demand that you people STOP IMMEDIATELY. But this is not a legitimate company and none of what you people are saying is true. You'll say anything to get people to buy and prevent existing shareholders from selling. You have to maintain a certain public market price in order to justify the price of the private stock being sold. That's where the these guys are making their money. 10s of millions of dollars being conned out of private stock buyers. They couldn't care less about people buying in the open market. They already have their money from the gullible folks holding the private stock. The private investors are going to get screwed the most, not the little guys flipping $5k, $10k, $20K, etc. But they need the little guys to keep the price action and some volume to keep conning the private investors.
The last press release was in October of last year. Newsletters to shareholders by the company ARE NOT LEGAL PRESS RELEASES!!!!!!!
If the public cannot find any press release on Yahoo Finance or any other financial news outlet then it is NOT A PRESS RELEASE and therefore not publicly disclosed and therefore INSIDE INFORMATION!!!!
Here's from the SEC:
"Under proposed Rule 101, when an issuer makes an intentional disclosure of material nonpublic information, the issuer must "simultaneously" make that disclosure to the public; when an issuer makes a non-intentional disclosure of material nonpublic information, the issuer must "promptly" make public disclosure of that same information. PR Newswire's concern with respect to these provisions is the way in which the material information is disseminated to the general public. We do not believe that the filing of a Form 8-K via EDGAR, by itself, necessarily achieves the goal of prompt and broad public dissemination that this Regulation was designed to produce. When an issuer files a Form 8-K with the Commission, the only way an investor can review that filing on a real time basis is to have access to EDGAR. In order to have access to EDGAR, an investor must be able to access the SEC or freeedgar websites via the internet. While the internet continues to reach a growing segment of the investment population, it is only one component of full and simultaneous disclosure. Allowing the filing of a Form 8-K, in and of itself, to satisfy the disclosure requirements of the Regulation, would reduce the reach of the Regulation by not getting the broadest possible dissemination of the information to the investing public. An 8-K filing, in tandem with a news release, will, in our view, fully address the desired goals."
Illegally sharing more info that hasn't been publicly disclosed, I see. Clear violation of SEC regulations. Your only legitimate defense would be that the information you are sharing is untrue. Either way, it's attempting to influence stop price and a violation of SEC regulations punishable with fines and/or prison.
We're always watching! You appear to be a fellow vet. Sad to see a man who has served his country become a con artist ripping off hard-working Americans.
You're just another gullible fool. There are two types of people who are bullish on this board. You are either one of the ones being conned or one of the ones participating in the con. Period.
There is NO DEAL happening! Stop this ridiculousness!
THIS IS A PUMP AND DUMP! Stop helping Mills and Lawrence con people into financing their lifestyles!
Your teacher's theory has no real world applications in a scam company with a very thinly traded stock. Sell 50%? To who? LMAO! There is NOBODY to sell to unless you place a market order and take out all the small bids which will wipe out any gains. There is NO SIZE on the bid!!!! Good luck trying to sell 50K shares or more when top bid is only 1000 shares and largest bid below is only 5000 shares. Market price may be showing you a gain but by the time you sell through all the bids, you will end up with a net loss.
I'd like to know at which college you taught. You should never be allowed to teach again.
I took LSD for the first time in '68. I was 14 years old and it was my first time at a Grateful Dead concert in Miami. There was a guy in an Easter Bunny suit dancing and I thought for sure he was real until I watched him pull his mask off. Good times, indeed!
Now, back to this pump and dump. Don't be foolish. There is no company. There is no financing deal closing. There will be no land purchase. This is a scam company. There will never be enough buying for you to liquidate any sizable position. Don't get stuck with a bunch of shares you cannot sell.
This is real advice by someone with real information. You will remember these words.
This Green Energy fad is not sustainable and will die out soon along with all the other lame woke trends. ECSL, if they ever were to do anything in this sector have completely missed the boat. Too late in the game. GO WOKE GO BROKE!
I just had lunch today with someone else close to Ron. All I can say is wow!
That 300 share purchase at .63 to get a green print is illegal market manipulation. They are tracking all trade data. They know ever buyer and every seller. They know the motivation for every trade. They know when buys and sells are coordinated. They call buyers and ask how they came about buying this stock and ask if it was from a phone solicitation or online forum. They know when small buys are executed to create an artificial price just like this 300 shares. It's funny that people involved in this really think they're getting away with it all. They are watching and letting you keep doing what you're doing so they get enough on you to make prosecution worth their time. It's like you're in a store stealing stuff and loss prevention is just watching you on camera putting stuff in your pockets and not saying anything until you grab enough items to get you for more than just petty theft. lol
AND STOP WITH THIS "TERRY FROM THE SEC" NONSENSE!!! LMFAO!!!!!!
AND NO "TERRY" IS NOT A SHAREHOLDER!!!! I HAVE THE PAST 4 NOBO LISTS FOR ECSL!!! THERE IS NO TERRY OR TERRENCE OR TERRELL OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT!!!!!! NO SHAREHOLDER OF RECORD FOR THIS FAKE PERSON!
LMFAO!!!!!
Big News Coming
IR is the highly paid stock promoters. They must have just purchased fresh leads. Thousands of names of potential investors they can call and try to convince to buy this junk stock using aliases and burner phones.
Uncle Monkey keeps talking about terrible incompetent management. Terrible? Maybe. Incompetent? Nope. Not at all! In fact they are executing this business model perfectly! The problem is that their business model has nothing to do with any type of fuel additives or any other revenue generative products or services. The ECSL business model is selling stock. Sell 144 stock to private investors, then pay a boiler room to solicit investors on the phone to create a market for their private investors to sell to. And even the private investors get screwed depending on when they get in and how much they pay. The 144 stock buyers in the last 2 years will take a loss.
This process has been continuously repeated since 2012. Feel free to look up every financial statement that lists all the sales of private stock dating all the way back. There are 116 pages of disclosures here. Check it out and do the math. https://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/ECSL/disclosure
There is no company. This is a cash mill. Period. So, where does investor money go if not into building a company? Very easy to see if you look at the CEO, other officers and private investors listed in those disclosures. Look those names up. See where they live. See what they drive. Investors are financing their lifestyles. This is one of hundreds of ticker symbols on the OTC following the same model.
There is no company. There is no land deal. There is no funding. There is nothing but worthless stock in a trading account. The only difference between this and shit crypto coins is that there is liquidity with the coins. There is no liquidity with ECSL stock. You will NEVER find buyers when you want to sell.
The company motto is "tell them whatever you have to tell them so that they buy more and don't sell" That's it. Period.
The sale of stock has not gone into this company. Look at the financials. How many millions do you see they took in since 2012? Now many assets do they have? How much revenue? How much product? How much money in the bank? It's all in the financials posted quarterly on octmarkets.com
The money the get from the sales of stock is financing the lifestyles of the officers of this company and the early private investors. The most recent investors buying private stock are going to be screwed now too because they paid way too much and there is way too much resistance on the stock to allow it to get above .80
He spends investor money on his lavish lifestyle like all the other CEO's of pump and dump penny stocks who never put a penny of it into actually building a business.
Look at all the money raised for this "company" since 2012. They have nothing to show for it. They can't even sell their crappy additive.
This has flown under the radar for a long time. And even once there's an inquiry, these take time. Some just a few months, others a few years.
This whole talk about "the funding is going to close" is hilarious. It's also illegal. If there was any actual funding about to happen, the company and anyone associated with it can't legally tell anyone, especially in any attempt to get people to buy stock. I can assure you, this board is being recorded, just like phone calls soliciting investors telling lies about funding, this fantasy port, NASA having interest in the crappy product that nobody buys. All recorded.
Nobody is buying this crap other than unsavvy investors who are being promised unrealistic returns based on false information.
Institutions don't invest in penny stocks with no revenue and no substantial business operation.
Billionaires don't invest in penny stocks with no revenue and no substantial business operation.
Mark my word. Within the next few months, all trading for ECSL will be suspended which means NOBODY will be able to sell their stock.
There will be a skull and crossbones picture on otcmarkets.com with the words Caveat Emptor (Buyer Beware) with the following description:
The Caveat Emptor Designation may be assigned when OTC Markets Group becomes aware of one or more of the following:
Promotion — The security is the subject of stock promotion that may be misleading or manipulative. Promotional activities may include news releases, spam email, and newsletters, whether they are published by the issuer or a third party. See OTC Markets Group's Policy on Stock Promotion.
Investigation of Fraud or Other Criminal Activities — There is an investigation or other indication of fraudulent or other criminal activity involving the company, its securities or insiders.
Suspension/Halt — A regulatory authority or an exchange has halted or suspended trading for public interest concerns (i.e. not a news or earnings halt).
Undisclosed Corporate Actions — The security or company is the subject of a corporate action, such as a reverse merger, stock split, or name change, without adequate current information being publicly available.
Other Public Interest Concern — OTC Markets Group has determined that there is a public interest concern regarding the security. Such concerns may include, but are not limited to, unusual or unexplained trading activity, spam or disruptive corporate actions, even when current information is publicly available.
YOU WILL ALL REMEMBER A GUY FROM FLORIDA CALLED PennyKing23 WHO WARNED YOU BUT YOU DIDN'T LISTEN!!!!!!!
Then, maybe a few years later, the dead shell will be sold to another company who starts up another pump and dump scheme and it will be assigned a new ticker symbol. When trading resumes, everything you have left will be worth 1% of what it's worth today
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This is hilarious! Posting crap about what other companies are doing as if this is what ECSL is going to be doing. Those are real companies. They have real sales and profits. ECSL never h and never will and will never get funding for this ridiculous story you're trying to sell. I started a lawn mowing service when I was a teenager in Florida and I had more sales than ECSL!!!!
This is like saying "I'm starting a new smart phone company" with absolutely no sales and then sharing a bunch of information of what Apple and Samsung are doing as if I'm the next Apple/Samsung.
Only fools believe anything you con artists are saying
Kenneth Pybus, Brian Pybus, Robert Good
You guys are always talking about 3 years. "This has been going on for 3 years" and "We've been waiting for 3 years." I hate to tell you that 3 years is just when some of you came on board with this company. This same BS lines being fed to you have actually been going on for 11 years. Same story, different investors. Look at the financials in the disclosures. There are 114 documents that tell the same story over and over and over again dating back to 2012.
There is no holdup! This is all by design. There's no company. They can legally continue to collect money from investors if they go through the motions of attempting to run a business. Have some meetings. Make some offers. Take "business trips." Get some LOIs. It's all BS.
This "company" has been raising millions of dollars annually from regular investors making them believe that they are building a company and they have nothing to show for it. No institution will EVER give funding to a fake company like this with no sales. They have access to their financials like everyone else here. Go look at otcmarkets.com. Type in ECSL and click on the filings and disclosures tab and open up any of the links on the list. There are MANY dated back to 2012.
All you see is the "company" taking on debt every year and issuing private stock for cash but nothing is being done to actually build a business. I repeat, there is absolutely NO WAY any institution will EVER lend money to a "company" like this which already has loans it hasn't paid back, has no sales, has very little assets and is only generating money from the issuance of stock. This has been the model since the very beginning. Nothing has changed and it never will. You are not investing in a company. You are financing the lifestyles of the officers on the company. If you want to see where your money is going, go look at the houses they own. Go look at the cars their driving. Look at their expensive jewelry. This is real talk.
Profitable companies with $100million in revenue aren't getting institutional funding. What makes anyone think this crap "company" will ever get any institution to give it any more with no revenue and no business growth or development using the $40million already raised by selling private stock to gullible investors over the years. It's all in the financials, if you go look at the quarterly disclosures since 2012. This is a ponzi scheme. Pump and pump. Smoke and mirrors. You've given these people all your hard-earned money and they have nothing to show for it. Get out while you can.
Just know I have connections with someone on the inside here and it's about to blow up. False statements being made on the phone to investors have been recorded. This funding lie. This lie about talks with NASA. This fake port story and all the other BS that keeps getting spewed to convince investors to buy. It's the same crap you hear in every other illegal pump and dump scam and everyone here knowingly contributing to the spread of this false information will face consequences. But don't take my word for it. Most of you are smart people. Do your own math. Look how many millions this company has raised privately over the last 10 years it's all available in the quarterly reports going back that far. You can find it all under the disclosures tab on otcmarkets.com. Where has the money gone? Not to build a business. Just enough to finance a facade to call it a business. Some additives that have no distribution in a an affiliate gas station. That means nothing. The only meaningful income this "company" has ever had and ever will have is selling stock to gullible people. You can call it a business all you want because it checks the necessary boxes to make it "legitimate" in the eyes of the SEC, but don't be foolish.
This is how it works. Make no mistake about it, here is the typical structure
Ronald Mills and buddies sell private stock to investors "for business operations" but in reality the money is being used to finance his lifestyle, which is why, after all these years, there is no progress/growth with this business. That money has purchased luxury vehicles, homes, vacations, jewelry, etc.
Those who hold 144 restricted shares are then able to sell their shares into the market after 18 months, but first they have to find a shady transfer agent who is willing to convert the stock certificates into tradable stock. Most brokers and transfer agents won't touch stock for companies like ECSL, so the ones that will are charging them ridiculous fees and will likely require that they maintain custody of the assets in a brokerage account with them, charging more fees.
So, how do these shareholders sell their stock when there is no market? They pay promoters 20% to 50% to set up boiler rooms and illegally solicit them over the phone and tell them how great the company is and how close they are to expanding. They tell the common lies such as being close to some kind of government approval and ALWAYS talk about some kind of funding that is supposed to be happening but never actually happens. These people go into their online trading accounts and purchase the stock at their request while communicating with a market maker to fill the order as soon as the bid pops up. If you notice, large bids and large offers are rarely seen. That's because there is coordination between 2 or more people to fill an order the second the bid pops up. Then what you will often see is a small print of shares to get a green print after the bid is filled below market price. Think about it. Do you really think a legitimate business will be paying anyone up to 50% of all money raised?
It's all manipulation. There is no company. This is all smoke and mirrors. Go look at all the disclosures for this "company" on otcmarkets.com and see who is getting paid and all the poor folks paying for it. This is a 2-tiered con. The top tier victims are the 144 holders listed in the financials and they may actually be able to sell their shares at some point, but it will be at a huge loss and they have to beat the guys running things to fill the bids. That will be very hard unless they are watching a live level 2 montage nonstop during trading hours. Also, their names and price per share is listed in the financial reports also found on otcmarkets.com and you better believe that price is way higher than what the true insiders are paying which is why the insiders, those who hire the promoters, are paying so much to find them buyers. The bottom tier victims are buying in the open market with their trading accounts. They are likely holding way more shares than supported on the bid side so they are less likely to ever liquidate their positions. And, if they do, it will be at a 50% loss or greater.
I suggest everyone sell whatever they can while you can. Do it in small batches so you won't whack all the bids down in a single market order. Good luck to you all.
You're kidding, right? Institutional investors aren't even buying profitable companies with $100mil in revenue. What makes you think anyone other than retail buyers with their own online trading account would ever buy this? It's a scam. If you had a real licensed broker or investment advisor, they would never buy this for you. They would lose their job. In fact, many platforms used by traditional brokers will not even let you buy any OTC/Pink Sheet stock because of the extremely high risk. Sadly, the only people who ever bought this stock bought it because they received a phone call from some random dude promising great things. Legitimate companies don't use boiler rooms to sell stock
Sadly, there is no funding. Never was and never will be. It's a scam. People will never be able to liquidate their positions unless placing a market order and if they have any decent size, that will take out every bid down to about .30
I visited one of the ECSL pump and dump boiler room offices the other day. Funny that I know half the guys running this scheme in So Cal. All criminals with criminal backgrounds using fake names
That would be illegal to do with the information that I have. I've been selling QQQ calls all week. Better gains and there's no deceit involved. If you are involved in this company, shame on you. If you're just a shareholder, get out while you can
Recorded phone calls. It's a matter of time. If I wasn't an honest guy, I'd be looking to short this knowing what's coming. Good luck to all
IR is telling people stuff that's not been made public. There will be trouble. Nobody will be able to sell their stock when SEC gets wind and suspends trading. Good luck to you
I bought some shares a few weeks back. I'm interested in using some of their product in my BMW M5. Why am I not able to find the Dynamo brands for sale anywhere?