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Perhaps take the time to read posts carefully before the personal shots. He was pointing out how PB and his crew of pumpers ran a scam on folks by lying about patents, spinoff shares, and great things to come. Buy and hold, buy more on dips, run the price up so they could dump while their blind followers got screwed. That was the scam.
The company is a small little supplement marketing company with zero success over 10 years. $8m in accumulated debt. Can't even achieve $50k in sales. 3 employees who are 80yo retired doctors in Vegas. The company isn't a scam, just a really crappy investment. They openly disclose their failures in public filings. They own nothing and pay licensing fees for everything they peddle. This stock shouldn't even have a market cap over $100k, so very overvalued at current prices based on real fundamentals.
Those are facts. No axe to grind. I absolutely have zero losses and have traded this up and down for great profits when I got word of the scam pumpers. Question is why are you so angry and aggressive?
5m shares cost less than $5k. Chump change and no sign of a whale or anything like that.
I really suggest you read company filings. This is from the quarterly report filed Monday:
"9. SUBSEQUENT EVENTS
On October 11 2023, the Company filed a new Reg A for the marketing of 250,000,000 common shares at a price range of $0.001 to $0.003, to be determined after qualifying. This new Reg A is to provide additional funding for the marketing for BioAdaptives itself, and also for its wholly owned subsidiary, LiveStock Impact Inc, The Company is looking to expand its range of targeted human health supplements. It is also focused on the marketing effort of LiveStock Impact, Inc and its wholesale activities as well as its interest in botanical drugs. Towards this end, since October, the Company has been working with a professional entity on its press releases and marketing promotions. It expects to intensify its marketing outreach in the next two quarters. The Company also announced its launching of a new Lung Health supplement, Lung Fortress, a robust all natural supplement designed to foster Pulmonary Health."
This is where reading compression is very important. If the SEC had qualified the offering already, the company would have reported the offering is qualified. In the very real world, zero shares have been sold yet. The company will issue another public filing when the 250m shares are qualified for sale.
Facts are very important. Good luck out there.
The market was not enthused by the 10Q (which came out Monday). Still 25% swings on decent volume though. How long it will last is anyone's guess.
The history of announcing or touting existing products on stock newswire sites is an interesting marketing strategy. It's cheap, for sure. But what's the target audience to actually make sales? Penny traders who want to buy supplements? Explains why revenues are so low.
I'll take a crystal ball stab at the next advertising PR:
The World Health Council predicts arthritis will impact 150m Americans and 1 billion people Worldwide by 2025. Inflammation and mobility problems devastate quality of life. BioAdaptives has developed ArthriPure, a proprietary formulation of recognized herbs, supplements and Chinese medicine known to reduce inflammation and increase mobility. As an added benefit, anecdotal testimonials suggest ArthriPure also aids in growing long, flowing hair similar to a horse's mane. Our wholly owned subsidiary LiveStock is testing ArthriPure on racehorses in a cross-marketing attempt to assist horses with arthritis. Win/Win. By the way, you can buy our stock on the OTC. You can buy ArthriPure at....ummmm....our website?
I honestly don't know if 7's are safe. There is no fundamental reason for this company to have a market cap above $250k. And even that is generous. When liquidity dries up, it's not worth it. Only $5k thrown at it today. There was quite a lot of bad information in that 10Q. The preffered shares create an overhang that has another name....a guillotine.
They tried online retail and failed. Going wholesale puts them in direct competition with experienced competitors. They are 80yo retired doctors. Can't view this as anything other than a hobby and a tax write-off for them. It Is What It Is.
Time to turn the lights out on this pump. Yes, watch out for said door when you finally decide to cut and exit....might sting a little.
First, there will be no second public company for LiveStock and no spinoff shares. Frankly, there is no point for even Bio to be public other than to dilute investors and get cash for operations.
Having said that, this is how a true public company spinoff would work (if not registering new shares). Ford Motor Company (F) decides to spinoff its electric division from the gas/diesel division. They decide to call it Ford Electric and it will be a new public company with the ticker FE. In order to be a true, real spinoff, all of the assets, liabilities, revenues, losses, everything for FE gets 100% divested from F and is 100% removed from the books of F. The market cap of F will go down accordingly. What happens next?
Let's say Ford Motor Company (F) determines Ford Electric (FE) is worth 25% of the total pie. F is trading at $100/share. F sets a date for the spinoff and announces the FE shares will convert an a 1 for 4 rate at a basis price of $100/share. If you owned 1,000 shares of F (worth $100,000) on the record date and hold through the spinoff, you will then own 750 shares of F, along with 250 shares of FE. Nothing is "free" because you lost 25% of your F stock. But it all evens out because when trading commences, F will likely (hopefully) stay around the same pps, but you now only own 750 shares (worth $75,000) of F instead of 1,000 shares of F. Your trading account will show a $25,000 loss on F, but for tax purposes, your price basis for your F stock will drop 25% so things even out for tax purposes. Next, you will have 250 shares of FE, and it should also trade at $100/share (worth $25,000), but it could go up or down based on what the market thinks of the spinoff. Same thing with F. The market could react favorably or not to F stock after the spinoff and losing 25% of the whole Ford Motor Company.
This situation in the real world is extremely more complicated and risky because the market will need to evaluate two companies and the price for both could go either way. For anyone to guarantee you that both will rocket up in value, that is just selling a pipe dream and anyone is free to buy that con, I guess. The bad actors on this board really did a number on folks with this spinoff share nonsense.
Since it is confirmed that anyone can post anything about a company like BDPT on this board, it would be prudent for folks to understand that this post I'm replying to, and this type of misinformation (con) runs rampant on these OTC boards. Having a complete stranger telling you s/he made a bunch of money 10 years ago (the foundation of the "confidence" game) and then gives you the "plan" on what you, dear stranger, need to do in order to make the same serious cash is EXACTLY how the big city street hustler con or multi-level marketing pyramid scheme pitch starts. Give me $5 and follow this Queen and I'll give you $20. You have a 1 in 3 chance, but I can tell you're smarter than most folks. BDPT is an amazing investment getting ducks in a row with patents and great things to come. Ready to explode, get in on the ground floor. Free spinoff shares for only us few smart folks who know.
Folks question my motives when I use the board properly to discuss company fundamentals and explain real issues with these companies. I refer to the filings. I provide accurate swing trading strategies. Up and down. I'm not trying to make money off of anyone else and do not need anyone else for my trading purposes. I know what I'm doing. However, these folks that post endless rainbows and sunshine with absolutely zero links or references to actual company filings ABSOLUTELY have a desire to get the price higher so they can either sell and profit (which goes against the scam/lie that the real way to make money is to hold for the big spinoff payday and accumulate more, more, more) OR get the price higher to reduce losses because they actually bought at those higher levels and got caught when the stock nosedived.
Only a con in the "confidence" game talks out of one side of the mouth to tell tales of riches by just buying and holding more and more stock for the magical payday some undetermined time in the future, then brags out of the other side of the mouth that they have been making profits all along. Wait....I'm not supposed to sell....you said buy and hold.....but you sold???? Oh, but you bought back lower.....and sold higher.....why are you always telling me this after the fact? Which is it? Do I buy and hold or do I flip? But flippers get called all kinds of names by the long holders. It's all soooooo confusing.....except it actually isn't when one can spot the con. If one can't spot the "mark", well, guess what?
You just outed yourself as one who does not read filings before throwing money at pumps. If only there was someone reputable explaining the company you could have listened to. Oh, wait.....
This is the 8K announcing the patent licensing deal for fancy oxygen water. Notice the steep price and end of the license coming in a couple months:
https://www.otcmarkets.com/filing/html?id=15529463&guid=9kJ-kWhpoJw-B3h
Then maybe read this quarterly report I've posted before to see for yourself the miserable failure they had trying to sell some of that fancy water:
https://www.otcmarkets.com/filing/html?id=16647723&guid=9kJ-kWhpoJw-B3h
Here's a fun quote that may have guided wiser investment decisions:
"Effective February 2, 2022, the Company acquired the option to purchase U.S. Patent No. 9,783,432B (the “Patent”), covering technology used in enhancing the capability of water to hold significantly larger amounts of oxygen. Since June 6, 2022, we entered into a services agreement with Wildpack Beverages in Las Vegas, Nevada to co-pack a pilot run (1333 cases) of this Product. However, since technical problems prevented completion of the planned pilot run, we are still working to rectify these issues and explore how to deploy the technology."
Interesting how you didn't know any of this from public filings or even some "savior" trying to explain basics, who you chose to attack. Well, live and learn hopefully. Remember what I said about Karma???
Pop Quiz: did you see the amount of money they committed to licensing other people's products in the latest 10Q? Or the amount of preferred shares they handed out for both licensing and bad debt? Or how they are currently in default on loans with more payments due next quarter? Or the $8m accumulated debt? The $10k in payments to others last quarter to get a mere $15k in revenues? The plan to sell wholesale at way lower margins? Did you catch how the Reg A offeing isn't even qualified by the SEC yet, so all the chart nonsense and secret buying by executives and board members is exposed as complete bunk(er) nonsense? Is any of that publicly disclosed information intriguing? Or am I just the lone pessimistic voice in the wind?
Good Luck averaging down Average Joe.
10Q out. That means quarterly report. It contains useful information to evaluate the company. Reading is fun. Good Luck!!!
https://www.otcmarkets.com/filing/html?id=17050710&guid=9kJ-kWhpoJw-B3h
Pump and dump pure and simple. I'm also moving on because I've proved without doubt that no "investor" has any fundamental reason for buying BDPT other than hopium and a prayer that bad actors drive the price up to minimize losses.
Please explain (without charts) how a company in business for 10 years, run by 80yo retired doctors, who peddle unregulated (expensive piss) natural supplements, with no assets, no revenues, nothing but debt, license everything they sell, no patents, nothing, nothing, nothing is even worth $800m market cap. Please explain with fundamentals and anything rational. Anything at all. Anything.
It's a marketing company that publicly discloses it doesn't know how to market. What possible news are you looking for? What do you think the 10Q will report other than more losses? Pathetic revenue and the same disclosures about no competency. What will be different?
More of a karma guy. How are those recent 12s?
You're welcome, I suppose. It's not a board that's exclusive to "investors" so take a deep breath. If you don't want to discuss the company, why respond to me is the question. I very much question why some advise here to buy and hold a company that has no assets, no prospects, and massive debt with more dilution as the plan to stay afloat. Makes zero sense and I'm seeking one honest person to explain why this is an actual investment. Certain voices change their tune and shift the sands. I've consistently said I trade this stock. Up and down. What's wrong with that?
In response to your request to mark this post, when is BDPT going to get above .004? What prospects does the company have other than a lung flute anyone can get on Amazon from dozens of companies for cheap and a lung concoction of supplements that was just marketed on a stock website because, um, flu season might be bad this year??
Past posts seem to get in the way of the current story and alleged profits on BDPT. Never any DD about the company, just after the fact claims of buying "cheapies" that are very red at recent prices. It's a homeopathic supplement marketing company that only markets through free stock websites. Not very savvy. I guess the target is penny traders who believe that supplements are more than just expensive pee.
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=173009185
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=173008138
Yes, the wash sale rules crush what you say about flipping cheapies. Because your tax bill will be HUGE if you've been selling BDPT when you bought tens of millions above .002 as you posted constantly.
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=173007162
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=172999688
These are your own posts bragging about .004s and having so many at that level and above because BDPT is going to rocket. Oops, it rocketed down. Claiming profits just doesn't fit the posts about the company.
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=172998368
Honest question. How many shares of BDPT do you have and what's your average price? Please share.
Apparently 3 posts about BDPT was very disturbing. Here's another post about the crappy company with no revenues and huge debt. Enjoy.
6 people posted about BDPT today and mostly you. Guess about tomorrow, up or down?
A zero volume day. Now THAT says it all folks.
And anyone who invests all of their funds in an OTC stock deserves EXACTLY what happens. BDPT is running on fumes and all the believers are long gone.
Why won't OTHER FOLKS buy this company so the price goes up??? Soooooo telling!
Volume appears to be drying up for BDPT. I wonder if a chart could help explain if this is because the company is in a retrograde Venus pull from the Andromeda Galaxy on the cusp of Virgo, perhaps with a smidge of Gemini moving out of the House of Gucci, blah, blah, blah.....
There are these little public filings called Form 3 and Form 4 which are required for directors and management to publicly disclose all purchases and sales.
https://www.otcmarkets.com/filing/html?id=11090927&guid=6e5-k6-ggFkPB3h
This clandestine, behind the scenes, things are shaking baby narrative about BDPT is hilarious. In their last quarterly report, they disclosed a $9k sale which was more than double the previous 6 months combined. In about a week, everyone can read the very public quarterly report to see exactly how much they did in revenues last quarter, and exactly what they have been up to. No need to go all double secret agent nutso.
I was quiet today. I understand where you are coming from. How do you feel about this stuff posted about the company 24/7? Honesty please:
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=173168236
Stupidest stuff I've EVER seen posted about a public company. But it's the OTC where stupid reigns supreme. Maybe it drives some buys tomorrow???
I can't stress this enough. Stupid, stupid sh about BPDT trading. Clown stupid.
Nooooooooooo. Well, since I'm not 12, I will ask anyone who reads, why "invest" in a company that says THIS about itself as full disclosure to hock shares:
Page 19
"With regard to animal products, the Company’s Livestock Impact Division under the direction its President, Bruce Colclasure, a National Cutting Horse Association champion, who owns and operates the Flying C Bar Ranch in Oklahoma and a breeder and trainer of over 80 NCHA champion cutting horses, continues to explore new opportunities in this emerging market. Mr. Colclasure uses and endorses our Equine All-in-One™ and derivative booster products providing valuable feedback and testimonials regarding their benefits. In addition, a high-performance special formulation of our All-in-One product continues to be marketed with exceptional results. We expect to expand the outreach in 2023.
In light of the failures of our past social media campaigns, we recommenced a social media effort 2023 with better response. The Company continues its marketing affiliate outreach program for the equine products, directly contacting the principals of horse clubs and associations, offering discounts, samples and other inducements, seeking to develop “product champion” and “maven” relationships. We contacted principals in organizations with thousands of members and many more thousands of horses. Since the 4th Quarter 2022, we have been distributing samples and marketing materials to over 40 principals and influencers in regional and breed-specific equine associations and in anticipation of receiving feedback from these marketing initiatives in 2023. Recognizing the personal element in the equine industry, the Company appointed FCB Therapy as its exclusive marketing agent for its equine and canine products. FCB Therapy together with Dr Charles Timmamen DVM have been working with BioAdaptives in the animal research area since 2014 and are deeply familiar with its equine and canine product developments. To further develop the LiveStock Impact division, the Company incorporated this into a wholly Neveda corporation for future growth and expansion in animal supplements and botanical drugs."
Page 23
"While we continue to investigate and acquire nutraceutical products for humans and animals, all of our current activities are reliant on marketing and distributing products developed and owned by others. We do not own the formulations for our key products and manufacture and market them under an agreement with the developer that requires payment of a royalty and license agreements.
We are reliant on direct and indirect sales of the Primi and Pluri lines for humans and the Regen and All-in-One animal products for revenues, neither of which have yet to produce any significant revenue. We have very limited experience in marketing and have yet to develop reliable sales expectations and forecasting."
Page 24
"With regard to animal products, in 2020, the Company formed the Livestock Impact Division. President of the Division is Bruce Colclasure, a National Cutting Horse Association champion who owns and operates the Flying C Bar Ranch and is the breeder and trainer of over 80 NCHA champion cutting horses. Mr. Colclasure uses and endorses our Equine All-in-One®,Equine All-in-One Plus™, Equine Regen® and Equine Regen® Plus products and provides valuable feedback and testimonials regarding its function. To expand this Division, August 2023 the Company transformed this into a wholly owned Neveda Corporation for its expansion and growth.
In light of the short fall of our social media campaigns, in 2021, we commenced a marketing affiliate outreach program, directly contacting the principals of horse clubs and associations, offering discounts, samples and other inducements, seeking to develop “product champion” and “maven” relationships. We have contacted principals in organizations with thousands of members and many more thousands of horses. We have distributed samples and marketing materials to approximately forty principals and influencers in regional and breed-specific equine associations and anticipate further useful feedback from these marketing initiatives in 2023. Our expectation is that use of the samples by these principals will demonstrate improvements in appearance and performance and that they will, in turn, recommend the product to their members. We have delayed contracting for print and on-line ads with certain of these organizations, as well as traditional magazine and TV channels such as the Cowboy channel, pending the results of our sample program."
This is what the company says about itself. Any first, middle or last words to add? Why invest in this company is a valid question, yes?
Another creepy post. I post about the company and discuss the company and trading strategies. You seem obsessed with me. Cringe
Like a lot of folks here, I'm hoping for a drop Monday for cheapies to hopefully flip in the sub-teens. Maybe the Sunday night chart will shine light. Love those charts LOL
So let's get this straight. The company announced its plan to spinoff the division of LiveStock as a wholly-owned subsidiary in April 2023. In the May 10Q in the subsequent events section, it referenced Live as a division. In the next 10Q in August, Live is also identified as a division for the quarter ended June 30, 2023. Zero mention of any spinoff shares. Zero public disclosure. If the argument is no discussion because of the spinoff quiet period......
Then the company PRd in September that Live is spunoff (spinoff quiet period be damned) and now a wholly-owned subsidiary with new management and new directors who moved over from Bio. This spinoff information was disclosed....what....in violation of the spinoff quiet period?
Then in October, the company registered an offering of new BDPT shares to the public with ALL the required disclosures about its business. In that offering, they publicly identified Live as a wholly-owned subsidiary for animal and botanical products. There is NOTHING mentioned in the offering identifying any proposed spinoff shares for Live. There is NOTHING saying to potential investors that they will lose a large chunk of the value of their BDPT shares, but as a result will get some new allocation of Live shares in the future. That would be critical material information for a potential investor. Oh, wait, if the accredited investors read ihub, they would now about the awesome spinoff shares, right?
The claim that the company can't talk about this stuff because they're in a spinoff quiet period is just not credible. Spinoff shares were required to be explained in the registered offering. They were not. Case closed.
Oh wait, anything can be posted on the interwebs. I know the truth about BDPT.
BDPT is a (very) small cap company. They are on the OTC where many "rules" and/or "guidelines" just don't apply. Specifically, there are no stock analysts covering or writing about them and asking questions. The company does not have earnings calls. The company has no published investor relations plan or published protocol for communications. They are a tiny company with 3 fulltime employees on the OTC. They have a registered securities offering open, which already discloses ALL of their business prospects and challenges. If there is a material development that affects that offering, they MUST communicate that information in an 8K filing so the public can make informed decisions. They can and do put out PRs about business and products. They have a 10Q upcoming. There's no analysts' estimates or anything of the sort. The company does not make projections, so no need to update public on target misses in advance.
It's funny when reality is there's no additional news because the company has nothing relevant to report v. Ohhhhhhh, just wait for the fireworks....they're muzzled right now due to the "quiet period" and other such nonsense. Here's the requested link with actual detailed analysis. Since nearly every company on the OTC is a small cap, that is the basis for me and many other knowledgeable traders posting no quiet period on the OTC stinky pinkies:
https://www.irmagazine.com/reporting/six-commonly-asked-questions-and-answers-about-quiet-periods
If a bunch of humans sell on the bid, the price of BDPT will go down. Conversely, if a bunch of humans buy on the ask, the price will go up. Charts are useless on the OTC. Also, there's no quiet period for stinky pinkies. Proof is this company putting out multiple PRs in a very clear attempt to generate action. They are a marketing company and they PR their products. Good job IMO. Now, if only as much money was used to buy their actual products than churning on the OTC. Now THAT would be a business development.
I don't believe such an email was sent to the company. That email says the author has lost money, which would be an untrue statement based on the statement on this board today that the author has made more money on BDPT than his regular career. I trust what he wrote today and don't believe he would have sent a contradictory email like that. It may have been a joke or something. Hoping for big BDPT moves next week. Good Luck!
This is directly from Page 21 of the last quarterly report.
"On June 30, 2023, we had $40,121 of cash on-hand and an accumulated deficit of $7,982,783 , and as noted throughout this report and our financial statements and notes thereto, our independent auditors expressed their substantial doubt as to our ability to continue as a going concern as of December 31, 2022. We anticipate incurring significant losses in the future. We do not have an established source of revenue sufficient to cover our operating costs. Our ability to continue as a going concern is dependent upon our ability to successfully compete, operate profitably and/or raise additional capital through other means. If we are unable to reverse our losses, we will have to discontinue operations.
Because our business plan relies on marketing products we license from others, our capital requirements are generally limited to general operations and administration, including the costs of continuing as a public company, and our variable costs scale up or down based on our actual sales. We believe that increasing our marketing expenses will be critical to establishing sales sufficient to cover our expenses and, if possible, generate a profit. We anticipate using our existing financing operations to do so, which will almost certainly require either the issuance of equity or increases in existing levels of debt or, most likely, both.
Management’s plans include the raising of capital through the equity markets to fund future operations, seeking additional acquisitions, and generating revenue through our business. However, even if we do raise sufficient capital to support our operating expenses and generate adequate revenues, there can be no assurances that the revenue will be sufficient to enable us to develop business to a level where we will generate profits and positive cash flows from operations."
Here is the entire 10Q so you can check my veracity:
https://www.otcmarkets.com/filing/html?id=16857401&guid=3H5-k6OMvwswdth#BDPT_10Q_HTM_P2I1A
The next 10Q is due in less than 2 weeks. I guarantee you the company will say the same thing once again, except the cash on hand and accumulated debt numbers will change.
I would suggest reading the actual financials to clearly understand the company itself sounds the FUD alarm about its own business. They say without equivocation that they cannot sustain operations without debt/equity financing and do not envision a profit for the next 12 months. The company said that, not something I made up.
You invested and I'm not bashing you. I question your decision to buy more at 12 when it was more reasonable and likely to wait for trips again. For the near term, getting trips is a reasonable play for a potential flip in the teens. I wrote that strategy on this board. You decided to buy in the teens and saw instantaneous red. I'm not bashing you, just pointing out we don't always get it right. At least I provide fundamental reasons for my opinions on BDPT.
Anyone is free to take personal shots. I'm a big boy and can push right back when I feel like having fun. And I will call out liars trying to pump an "investment" just so they can get this to a higher level to get the hell out. Here are some reasonable questions, will you answer?
I just post the facts, don't get mad at the facts.
Has the company ever reported a profit? Why did you invest?
Does the company own $780m in patents as spammed on this board? Why did you invest?
Does the company have nearly $8m in accumulated debt over 10 years? Why did you invest?
Are there going to be spinoff shares for the oh so lucrative $9k in 6 months animal wholly-owned subsidiary? Is that why you invested?
Don't get mad at a poster who shines a light on all the warts the company discloses about itself. Not really fair. I don't see any value shorting again until it gets to 14 or 15. And if it drips back down to 7 or 8, I'm a buyer. Will sell above 10. Rinse repeat. I trade off public filings and fundamentals/momentum, not internet nonsense. Sorry if you made a bad investment in .03 territory. Yell at those folks who duped you there.
And yes, this is a cut and paste from a previous post of mine. Solid analysis that played out in real time. One last question: if it drips down to 7 or 8 on Monday, will you buy more? I will.
Here's the crazy part of this board and its idiots. I could YELL buy and they wouldn't listen. I could yell SELL but they wouldn't listen. I trade without YELLING. The market is a BITCH and I wish someone smart gave me as much free advice as I give.
8:30 and nowhere near the kittie club. SMH. I do have 3 kittens with me. Thanks BDPT!
And by kittens... they're 19-23ish
I will take the bait.....
Hahahahaha there will NEVER be any Live spinoff shares. Mark this post. King of arrogance. I made sooooo much money flipping this bitch this week. You?
This is the type of guy who gives a girl a cubic zirconium ring and tells her it's a diamond. She gets it appraised and confronts him on giving her a fake diamond. He calls her a basher and all sorts of names.....and then asks for the ring back LOL
I'm not allowed to use PB anymore. This Bunker guy is my next game piece.
LOL, it's 4:20 on the west coast. This is when we get the weekend started. I'm gonna make it rain for some local kitties with the easy BDPT free money this week. Enjoy the weekend!