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NASDAQ 1.5 years from now is the stated goal from Troy on the conference.
There are many brokerage firms that limit buying pinks. And some good money is there watching this price and uplist. It’s not so much that it is not nasdaq but that this is a company to invest in, and the uplist brings more brokerage firms into play and more investors who don’t want to open new accounts.
I know at least one person who might go in with 50k once it uplists if it is below $1 still.
I’m not sure how many shares are left in the float with the recent buying.
One more dip before the true run or are we off to the races already?
Only time will tell. And of course trips charting skills which I’ve missed. Welcome back and hope life is better for you.
To have 500% growth in one year on an increase in stock of 200% is pretty amazing. Add to that the potential of 50% organic growth the following year + acquisitions with cash and some stock could mean another 100% growth to 200MM revenue. And we will be under 400MM shares potentially.
That makes $1 a 2x multiple and a 10x multiple $5 - is it possible? Yes. All we need is a lot of holders who see the Vision. Good solid growth numbers and good industry news.
Can you imagine enough people seeing it to hold all 400MM shares or whatever percentage is in the float... I can. If 2MM people can buy SAFEMOON we should find 25,000 to buy this.
As I’ve said before, as more people accumulate, the better it is to stay at a low price longer as more get in which puts supply pressure in place. Higher demand the longer it goes if it stays low.
The run up could be 30%-50% tomorrow and 100% the next day if it is a true run. I kinda only expect that if the presentation comes with uplist news.
I would love to see non pink one day soon, but it will be in time. No matter what we should be at $1.37 about now.
I really like that. Thanks for all the updates. It will help new investors doing their research.
I keep working stock twit and Twitter like I did back in November. Need to bring awareness to hashtags like #investing #microcap #pennystocks for those people looking now to find a gem. Discuss what you like about the business, management, Industry, and the products and services. Talk about the revenue guidance, and current value. Keep doing this. If you are not tweeting daily with these hashtags, please start.
This bottom skimming at support will bring in more as the chart turns from the down cycle and holds and as they keep bringing significant news.
Let’s keep sending the word out. This is the time to tell your friends.
Tell them about dollar cost averaging to reduce downside risk if there is a dip and this is driven lower.
We need 1000 people to put in $500 per week to buy up all the float over the next two months.
Did I see mention of a Facebook group for SIRC somewhere? And also any pages that are current?
Future Home Power generated over $7 million since inception with between 10 and 15 sales representatives - They were founded in late 2020 and have already made $7MM in revenue. That’s pretty amazing. The concept of being able to sell and farm out installing and delivery is pretty cool. I can see why they bought them.
Buying them allows them to expand quickly. Infuse some cash to get sales leads faster.
They could expand their regions as well. This is pretty cool.
I would love to see a Texas deal announcement soon. It would be nice to see terms and details we won’t see for months. End of summer is August/September and it feels like light years away. If they could start showing some revenue guidance it might help but ultimately I know that quarterly reports that show 400MM shares and 25MM revenue per quarter is what we all want to see. I think they will be a little over on the share count and will likely see 425MM shares at 105MM run rate by August quarter, reporting mid October.
But 25MM per quarter could really cause a run on the shares up to 800MM market cap levels. I saw another company report 30MM per quarter and has 1.2Bn market cap.
Who knows.
Indeed.com has jobs posting for future home power for 5-10 solar sales reps. Salary range 75k to 150k so if you know anyone in that area looking for a job, they are urgently hiring.
I noticed they said they want to grow their reps to 60 from 15 reps they have now. They have several openings at different levels for sales people.
If they can do $1M per week now... that’s 50MM and if they expand and they buy more small companies and grow them in California, and roll out these solar roofs and if they repeat this in Texas and other locations, they might actually be able to organically grow 100% per year by hiring staff and opening offices.
It will be interesting to watch this company grow over the next two years.
This could really work.
45 million shares, x $25 is 1 billion. So he wants to see this hit $25 per share in 5-10 years.
If they makes 500 million in revenue and have 500MM shares, and have a 25x multiple, they will hit $25. That means 100% growth organically for 4 straight years, which is possible.
They will get the multiple on that growth, and the share price.
They CAN grow without a lot of shares if they slow acquisitions after they hit 100MM revenue milestone. 12 months later it hits $200MM revenue run rate, then $300MM the year after that, then 400MM then $600MM as they keep expanding.
He might want to grow to 1Billion revenue in 10 years. That’s 10x revenue growth from this year. That is possible.
I’m telling you, any company with a very solid base, that can make money just because the need is there, and can hustle and be a better company for the customer has a great chance to keep growing and making money. A roofing company that becomes a full service company, with roofing, solar, EV charging, home battery backups, HVAC, with skilled people, is a company that customers will call regularly.
I want someone who knows my home better than I do. And knows how to get the most out of the big systems, and who can service the equipment. And if they do that, and I need an EV charger in 2 years when I buy my EV, then I will call them. Some people are starting to budget today for the EV and battery systems.
With power outages lately and the disruptions possible many people are looking for solutions that keep the home running because so many people are working from home now and will be in the future.
The growth of any company takes time. I’ve been holding this since 2018. And the growth this past 6 months is impressive. And the leadership is growing. Slow and steady and focus on the business. People should stop looking at the price daily. I still do, but I am reminding myself how long it takes to do something in a business.
3 months is a short time. And if they keep getting business, the numbers will follow. The numbers take 3 months to flow in. Plus they might finance some which gives a stream of income that grows with more customers.
This has huge potential, but it takes time.
Not sure when the market will shift, but it will. Hang in there and watch. I told my friends and family to watch this stock for six months starting in March. We hit 3 months of that in 2 weeks. Just another 3 months to go. I’m talking to people who are researching this now, and will start buying. We will see more getting in at these prices.
The more buyers who come and hold it will be like this board at .10 when everyone started seeing it and researching and watching and telling friends and family. Any dip near .43 brings more investors and even traders. They may try to hit the support line. And really getting 5% on 20,000 every week buy flipping dips is addicting. Traders love this period of anticipation near the support line.
In 2 days I will have another $5000 and in 1 month another 100,000 that I can use to buy the dip if it stays low. Many other people are also trying to move cash in place to make the buys while they see it low.
And if you tell more people they will do the same FOMO will grow at these prices with the potential this company has. More dips will bring more eyes as the chart turns to flat. The longer the flat, the more potential for a cup and handle formation by end of year.
It’s coming.
I saw it last year before the run. I can sense it will be building up potential every month that you tell people about this and they start researching.
I told a coworker about this stock. He’s pretty heavy in technical analysis and saw the support at $0.43 and will start adding shares monthly. Many investors when they see a good long term company to buy they will buy a bit each month. They buy, if it goes down, they buy, but they know over time they will average and as it goes up they enjoy the ride, hold and forget, but they may buy over the course of 6 months. And they will tell others as they talk about ones growing.
It’s at this point were the decline has slowed greatly. And it will bounce around here for a while until numbers start showing strong revenue and consistent growth. Monthly and quarterly growth will be pretty awesome to see. We might be bouncing around for 6 months or the market might start to change and who knows when investors start putting more $$ into this as a long hold. We could probably just walk away for a month and come back and start to see the excitement building.
I love seeing the videos of their retreats. Leadership is very key to blowing this out of the water.
Having a solid business in roofing and HVAC gets them a customer base. Who will call them when they want a battery wall installed and an EV charger. The customer base is the big asset as they grow and as society shifts to solar and power backup systems.
Roofing and HVAC are good business with solid profit as a service business. The customer base of happy customers is the big asset that funds the growth into new sectors.
Having a good corner on home needs for big ticket items is a great plan.
Rightstuff, I have no idea. I was drunk when I posted that. Hahahaha. Just kidding. I’m expecting they will start showing monthly revenue numbers in the 8MM range in May or June. It will take until August to have the momentum of multiple months of that level of revenue. It may take until September to see $2.
Who knows. Anything can happen.
This is what will happen. They will start the process of reporting monthly revenue for May, and after the second month of 8MM revenue reported, the price will show a steady 5-10% increase per day or a potential 400% run in three days. It could happen sooner. It won’t be later.
Every day that is waited for if it does go down the potential for the ride to switch quickly goes up each day we move towards the uplisting and the revenue numbers coming out.
I don’t believe the TV shows were to provide us more information. It was to generate a bigger audience of researching. The more people research this company the more likely they will like what they see especially at this price with huge support at .43 and potential for the kind of growth to be expected in this industry.
They have a history of growth, and they have been doing well getting quality in place. The more they grow and focus on quality, the more likely they will grow at a high enough rate to get a larger multiples over income and earnings whenever they start posting earnings.
People will be looking to invest in this company for the next 10 years. And a growth of 25% per year every year after it reaches Nasdaq is possible.
It’s hard watching the dips. And I’m impatient waiting, but I am not watching it hourly most days. I feel like if it dips any more I’ll make another buy. But if it starts recovering, I’ll just go along and watch it a little and tell others even more enthusiastically.
I mean, it’s likely to go up 50% in a short time relatively speaking. Who would not want that to happen?
Really? Based on charts you think it will drop to 100MM market cap and there is any risk for people buying at .10 to lose all their profits? You don’t lose if you don’t sell.
.10 would be a market cap of 40MM at 50MM revenue. Anyone should buy at that price. And this is a long term hold because this will have 100MM revenue. And .50 on 400MM shares is a multiple of 2 on a high growth stock. Buying today at .50 is a great idea for a 1 year investment. You would likely get 50% in 1 year minimum. Where else can you get that?
Your posts are still trying trying to drive the price down, not just random hedge funds.
And you make no sense on your claims of losing and the risk, with the solid business they are in. The roofing business is a solid business and many small companies are making 25% net income. And staying in business your years.
Could only buy 2000 today, sold another stock to see if I can catch bottom. Waiting for funds to clear.
If I miss it, I’m okay with that.
Sammy finally gets the prize of .58 hopefully you’ll be buying around this spot if not already loaded.
Some people are hoping for .40 that is only a 1.6x multiple on 400MM shares and 100MM revenue. Less if they start growing over 100MM.
With the amount of growth potential it is hard to picture 1.6x multiple being the target. I could maybe see it drop to .60 with some effort.
If it hits .50 it would be more of a slingshot before uplisting news and revenue reports.
I’ll sell other things if it drops to .50 for sure.
I might have to figure out how to move other funds from anywhere I can.
Well we’ll see how it plays out.
Short term is unpredictable.
At .66 and 308MM shares and 60MM run rate what are the numbers?
We’re down to a 3.38 market cap to revenue ratio.
If they get to 125MM at 400MM shares .66 would be a 2.112 ratio.
Most solar stocks with growing revenue can hit a good multiple. I know some here look at 10x. I personally look at 4-5x just as a ball park for the small runs with little news or something where investors get a little excited.
5x multiple on 308MM shares and 60MM run rate, is $0.97
I expect it to get back in that range if they show monthly revenue reports showing growth in revenue.
If we hit 100MM with 5x multiple on 400MM shares, that is $1.25. Which should be a conservative number to hit.
With a little press and some demand from new investors, we might get a 7-10 multiple. We hit a 26 multiple back on the first run to $3. I expected.80 on that run or just about a 7x multiple.
I’m conservative. I like to see that even when conservative the current price is a deal. The price it hit of .63 today is just about 50% of what I expect when they report the 8MM revenue per month number. With a potential for it to hit 400% from today. ($2.50 range). I don’t expect it to sustain $2.50 without other news showing growth into the $150MM range by end of year. But I might be surprised.
I do believe that constantly growing revenue will bring investors to suck up the shares.
It would be nice if we could see $1 in the next month.
We can hope the shaking stopped at the .63 dip today. We can hope they will give us some monthly numbers like $5MM for the month of April. That would be a cool number to show. 5MM on the last quarter and 5MM for the first month of the new quarter. That would put them at $60MM run rate and it would be their highest monthly income to date.
What is your guess for April Revenue?
If wall street looks at a 5 year plan, and they have a price target for today of say .60 then it will get to .60 and they will accumulate millions of shares and at some point will let it go. Once it starts going, based on uplisting or news or monthly revenue reports, they will actively try to get it back to $2 and maybe even $5 before sending a correction. They want to make millions on the way down, millions on the way back up and millions on the way back down.
Unless there are a bunch of new investors with money to spend they will keep it low. Once they see more investors coming and looking they will let it fly and hopefully a lot will buy on the way up.
But ultimately if they already are looking 5 years out, they want to keep shaking the trees at anything under $1 for as long as they can. This may stay under $1 until later summer.
Who knows.
Stay well! Hoping things get better soon
I bought about 50,000 shares today. Pretty low volume. A few times I say small sells at the low bid keeping price low. At the last 5 minutes I saw a concerted effort to sell last minute. I was bidding.71 and. They were selling .68 which does not make a lot of sense. Then I saw an 80,000 ask at .70 then sells at .69 and .688 in a flurry the last minute. What does that say?
It was quite and low volume but it appeared that someone wanted to keep price in the .70 range.
Would love feedback on this.
I figure this will pop up into the .90 range one day even if closer to uplisting.
I think there is a push to get it to break support. Who knows. Seems manipulative. But what do I know?
Almost all of my high bids were filled lower. And most of my low bids were filled. Buy between .69 and .709 on most shares today.
Okay, $3 for Nasdaq? 400MM shares. 125MM revenue run rate by end of year?
That’s just about a 10x multiple on revenue run rate. Can we hold $3 for the uplisting? Maybe. I’m hoping we will hit $3 before we hit 400MM shares. But I get a sense the 100MM revenue might require a good chunk. They are looking at 4 acquisitions.
10MM per month is $120MM if they keep that pace once they hit it, but I expect they hit 10MM per month on peak months and 8MM off peak until next year.
We hit 26x revenue on the first run to $3. (12 month historical) or $20MM rev and 167MM shares.
We will have 5x the revenue on 2.5x the shares. And still growing at 50% or higher per year after they hit 100MM. So if they don’t R/S they will get to $3. The question is timing? They will get there. But when?
Now, if there is a positive event like solatrac grant or their grant or a large government contract... that could be enough to provide a run.
Anything can happen. I just want perspective so no one thinks there is needlessly hyped stock talk on these discussions.
Let’s talk about reverse split pros and cons. Let’s say we get a 7x multiple and ride that a while and are sitting at $3 for a few months. A R/S of 4 to 3 would get us to Nasdaq, and does not materially change value.
The price and share structure match up at the same market cap. The only difference is when a company does an RS so they can dilute more shares. That’s the ones you hate. But if you’re growing at 25% per year and think Nasdaq will like that more and get more exposure to investors to maintain your revenue multiples, then it might be worth it. But you would want to see steady price growth and a good set of numbers to tell the story that the only reason is to hit the price requirements sooner and that growth is still the plan organically.
I know we want a 10x multiple, but it will take $160MM revenue on 400MM shares and a 10x multiple to hit $4 steady. (1.6Bn market cap). That may be a stretch to hold that price multiple for 30 days in OTC. But on Nasdaq a 10x multiple might be small with that much growth.
But they might want to get to Nasdaq in 8 months not 18 months. So do we wait for revenue to hit $160MM or $200MM? Or do a R/S get to Nasdaq and let it go from there?
The numbers game... 100MM revenue run rate June, July, August. 60 days to have various segments start to grow more, and increasing demand for EV charging and Solar means organic growth on top year over year. And good systems reduce costs.
I expect the cash flow is good, and net income is close. They will keep net income negative as they invest the revenue to growth.
We’ve seen a 7x multiple hold fairly well, therefore at 100MM revenue, we could see 700MM market cap sustained on a non short attack cycle. At 350MM shares that is $2. As shares go to 400MM and they slow acquisitions the revenue growth from demand can start increasing to 125MM run rate. That still gets us over $2 on a 7x multiple. 10MM per month is 124MM so once they start sustaining 10MM per month revenue and increasing margin, we should see $2 stick pretty well. It may be a while before they see a run to $4 but it could happen especially if any grant is successful.
I expect $1.75 by July 30. And I expect 10% volatility every day. .60 to .66 range for example with it slowly increasing in higher highs and lower lows week by week.
But I trust trip’s analysis more than my loose attempts at trends.
April is almost done.
May should see some confidence boost, and people buying dips if there are any.
New investors will be coming.
Sounds like June 11-17th for outside chance of uplist time.
Uplisting and posting a 10MM revenue month will be significant.
Time to buy any dip this week.
What I did this go. I was buying a lot from .55 to .45. I sold a bunch at .58 and .60 and then bought some back at .55 and .51... if this goes up from here, I’m holding until .94 at least, which is a break even point on my high, and I need to correct how much I hold, and prepare for another dip.
I would love to see just slow steady growth. I still hope to hold more than what is comfortable. I do believe this will grow for years to come.
Strategy thoughts. In one post someone mentioned that the strategy was to buy and hold for a year. And another strategy was based on how the stock moves in the short term.
I might suggest making strategy decisions based on value metrics of a company and buy when you believe it is undervalued and sell when you believe it is overpriced and will not gain value in a reasonable time compared to the price.
When I bought sirc at .23 I believed it was a good price for the business. They were growing. The stock price dropping did not make it overpriced so why would I sell on the drop, in fact it became more enticing to add because it was even more undervalued.
At .03 I thought people were crazy for not buying.
After buying, my strategy is about making a good return and holding while the company has value and potential to grow value. Dilution in a company reduces value. Poor decisions can cause me to exit a company sudden run ups because of hype of forward looking statements can cause me to sell.
My challenge has been not buying on the downside too early. Hoping for the bounce. I get in more trouble that way.
Strategy that involves market timing and nothing else is pretty dangerous IMO. Too many unexpected events can destroy you. Even on a good speculation.
If the numbers show value, it is likely price has been factored in. It’s hard to find real value that others have not already seen, but it happens. It takes a lot of research and digging.
Yes, I bought around there too. It did drop to .49 after that.
Ageofreareason, I agree with most everything. Penny stocks can’t be trusted in general. Making money though is what moves a stock. When I bought at .23 I bought maybe $400 worth as I started to watch the company. As it dropped my small investment went really insignificant. But a market cap of 5 million on 5MM quarterly revenue if they keep posting revenue will turn heads, and I bought when the multiple was under 1.
I use multiples like .5, 1, 2 and 4 as my general rules of thumb for penny stocks. I watch for revenue. And I figure hype can drive a price over 4x for a penny stock making money.
Over time a company making real money will uplist and get to a major exchange.
I am very aware of penny stock trading having watched it, traded and losing $25,000 on paper before this one hit a home run.
But I also have said many times that I expected it to go from .03 to .80 as a high on 5MM revenue per quarter. In the short term.
In the long term, anything can happen, both good and bad. Hyped stocks will become shorted stocks, almost always if the revenue posted in reports can’t sustain the price. There are exceptions always, but most of the time if a company is a going concern and have to raise money from stock sales to stay in business, it can’t be trusted. Roofing companies who have been in business as private companies are running a profitable business model already. Buying these smaller companies when it makes sense is a very different thing than just growing a single business from concept as a penny stock.
This company has has low revenue for a while, but growing revenue. It also has connections in the Industry and makes a lot of sense what they are doing, and doing it fast is important to get the ground work. It will cost more to get set up, and will take investment, some debt, and some risk to pull it off.
We are still 7x historical 12 month revenue numbers as market cap. Once the Q1 report comes out and shows 12MM revenue (48MM run rate) or higher, then the multiple comes down a lot at this price.
To get to $1 we need historical revenue. This time frame is the time the stock correction happens. But investors who understand that the business model is generating cash flow realize this is a buying opportunity at anything below $0.75 because it will reach $1 again.
That’s the first level they have to achieve again. $1 solid based on revenue. Not projections but historical revenue and share structure. Once they hit that AND then growing continues as a good pace more investors will see the potential for growth. And slow steady growth is just as good as fast hyped growth if enough investors come.
The way penny stocks work on the bottom side is hype and shorting based on speculation until the company has good cash flow and no longer needs to sell shares to survive. That is what everyone is looking for a company to achieve. Revenue and profit high enough to cover all expenses.
I believe they are extremely close to that already. The synergy and efficiency allows better profits and reduced cost for all of them.
I put in $9000 when it came out of cvem but I did it in small chunks. My average was .045. When it ran to $2 plus that was 200% higher than I expected and I started selling in the $1.65 range until I was down to 15,000 shares, from my high of 216,000 shares.
My general rule of thumb is 200-400% gains in one week will not hold.
We are still 1000% from my previous .045 average.
I started buying again after the cornerstone acquisition because of the RoofCON project that already was focused on building solid companies and making them better. What I saw on those videos is vision. And the vision is what others have seen with this company and execution of the vision is what they are doing better than other penny stocks.
I like the decisions, the diversity, and the core business that fulfills a need now in tornado alley as we call it in Georgia.
I like the solar in the southwest, and EV charging in places where electric cars are being pushed. I like the comprehensive plan for a full homeowner provider of big ticket items. Roof, HVAC, Solar, battery backup storage, and EV charging.
It’s an amazing vision to build that into one synergistic company with a national brand.
This can transform this industry segment.
Mercutos has commented often of the Boyd Group I think it is who did a similar thing with auto repair shops which grew for years and years.
This is a penny stock today, but it will not always be.
But while it is, it still will fight the same battles. Being profitable and with positive cash flow is what will save them from this issues.
Remember the timelines...
I bought at .23 and it dropped to .03 before I bought a lot more. It went up from there to $3.00 that’s 100x in a very short window. We are up +10x from the .03 range. And we have not had two full quarterly reports. By the next two quarters they will be posting 24MM per quarter, up from 20MM per year and growing. From 20MM over 12 months to 24MM over 3 months is a pretty significant change on double the shares. Especially when their shares were in the .10 range and lower the last year. They made significant acquisitions and working hard each day to increase revenue organically in each company.
60MM run rate takes them from $5MM per quarter to $15MM per quarter. With the goal of 100MM revenue run rate ($8MM per month). They were making $5MM per quarter to making $8MM per month. Within 6 months.
This is an exciting 6 months period to watch.
The share price will be what the market bares. Today the short sellers want more shares at these prices.
They may try to squeeze a few more pennies out.. or they may let it turn the corner to prepare for takeoff.
Timmykins, one of my friends was down 50% in his portfolio, but he had full confidence his investment was a good decision and he only checks the account once a month. Just to see where things are. If he is up a lot in one and thinks it is time, he sells and finds another good investment. If he thinks the company completely has lost focus he might cut losses. He never sells a growing company that is growing by a good percentage. And the charts he shows end up going up at a 45 degree incline once they get their footing. This one will find their place, and people will come.
Each company runs a profitable business.
This is fundamentally why the cash flow will support the business and growth plans without needlessly dilution of shares. They have shown restraint before with not selling shares without getting value. They are in a better place to not need shares to fund operations.
And the more synergies they create, and the more efficient they get the more cash they will have. If they have more cash, they can use that to make deals verses cheap shares.
These are prudent business people.
If they hit 100MM now, they will hit $150MM next year and 200MM the year after that. Stock price will not be a problem long-term. Short term it depends on how the players will make the most. There is now more room at the top versus the bottom.
At .45 they can try to push it down 10% or let it go up 50% once they are all in agreement, it will go up. They have to buy low though now. Before letting it go.
They will want over 200% return. They will prefer 400% before the next correction.
.45 to $1.80 is my expectations. But they could try .40 to $1.60 or .40 to $2
I’m sure they are charting it out themselves on when to hit the gears.
I bought a lot of shares today. I lost count but about 37,000 shares.
Since I have bought at .85, .75, .65, .55, I figure I will buy at .45 and if it goes to .35 I will buy that too. My current average price is .77 I am down $90,000 at the moment on paper from my high. It feels wrong, but I am hopeful we are close to bottom and we start to see accumulating of shares for the push back towards $1 and beyond.
Maybe we need to bring back the buck board.
Carp, in all honesty, I figure this will easily hit 5x revenue for market cap. Based on yearly run rates from quarterly reports. If they have 25MM per quarter, and they have 325MM shares outstanding, I believe it will hit $1.53 around that time. And $2 is not a stretch as they increase monthly revenue reports.
If we get higher like 10x revenue, this hits $3.00. Uplisting could bring a 10x valuation.
Another down day, or the beginning of the turnaround?
25 more days.... it might be a good time to turn off the computer and go fishing.
My thought is that Algo and others claim .30 as a target. And of course they want to catch the bottom themselves and I expect they believe the bottom is higher than that but they want everyone to wait until they finish buying.
Let’s say it hits .45 just for analysis. This puts us under 150MM market cap with a run rate expected of 100MM. Even if they hit 400MM shares, that’s less than 200MM market cap with revenue growth coming all year and into next.
100MM revenue will become a run rate of 150MM in 12 months if we expect a 10x multiple once it starts going, that makes 1.5Billion on say 500MM shares on the outside. That’s $3 - .$0.45 to $3 in one year will appeal to a lot of investors. This will go up after uplisting.
Even if it drops to .10 the numbers are the same. It will get to $3 again.
Whatever the bottom happens to be, if you can buy at that price, you’ll be happy you did.
The big question is how to tell what the bottom is and when will shorts turn long?
But that is a trading question, not an investment question.
The investment question is, will they stay in business, will they grow revenue, and will they manage the business and have shareholders interests in mind. We all believe that answer is yes.