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Anyone who displays your skill level has obviously been involved with the markets for an extended period making it a profession. Judging by the length of time dictated by your knowledge you've obviously had much more success than failure. Something to hang your hat on at the end of the day. Investing isn't an exact science and the occasional humbling experience goes with the territory. That's how we gain wisdom and get better at what we do.
If CLWD manages to check off all the boxes of the forecast projections made public up to this point those valuations you reflect are very realistic and within reason over the next 6-12 months.
Exactly... You and allenc get it. The 9 will sell their CLWD holdings when the share price initially rises when a PR comes out updating the SWARM to SaaS format. Those that "get it" will hold and benefit from significant increase in revenue stream as the product/service becomes widely used.
A true "LONG" by definition wouldn't be so consumed by CLWD's share price at this point in time. A true "LONG" understands the real payoff in share price appreciation will be realized when SWARM is fully developed as a self service SaaS platform provided on a recurring subscription revenue basis. That's when top line revenue growth will start to grow significantly.
Ah, but you can't beat the wisdom one possesses when it comes to reaching the "threescore" plus stage of life.
I would say anytime between now and the end of the year judging by what information the company has released up to this point.
I'll place a link to one of Sello's posts making mention. His knowledge of the company is second to none:
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=156702485
Humans are social by nature. That communal pull we all feel has a major influence when it comes to our reactions which includes investment decisions. It’s always very evident on days when a stock’s share price is going up by leaps and bounds on heavy volume. The desire to be a participant can be very influential. One will always feel more apprehension when a stock has flatlined for an extended period and currently appears to have very little interest from the investment community. The person has to make more of an independent decision on whether it would be a good holding to start accumulating over a longer period of time and that can be even more disconcerting when factoring in the OTC arena.
As many have pointed out on this board a company’s share price movement isn’t necessarily indicative of its current fundamentals but victimized more by the climate of a non-formal exchange. Investors are more apt to dump a holding on the spur of the moment to go chase another listing displaying some immediate momentum. I can tell by the content of your posts you convey an understanding of the constructive information messaged on this thread representing strategies having a higher percentage of benefiting your own personal investment situation. (On low volume days put a reasonable bid out there and let the MM come to me.) Applying what you learn is how experience is gained. Anyone who’s had a hand in helping raise four kids that are able to support themselves as adults (please excuse the memory misstep if I’m wrong regarding your family it’s what I recollect you might have mentioned) has a lot of embedded life experience that can certainly come in handy no matter what is being debated in the individuals mind on a given moment.
I’ve been investing for over thirty years now and in each decade a certain characteristic stands out creating lessons to be learned having a hand in shaping the type of investor I am today. First ten years represented the addictive quality that naturally envelopes you to the point of it even affecting your mood for the rest of the day once the closing bell rings. (I wasn’t married yet during that time so there wasn’t someone who could quickly humble my ass when I got home on those down market days.) The next ten represented a more grounded understanding of the longer term approach in turn teaching me more patience. The final ten was the acceptance of a lot of hard work reflective in a solid “stay the course” portfolio that when looking at it objectively, which meant dispatching the nagging desire of always wanting it to be more, certainly did exceed my expectations.
Trust your instincts when it comes to the potential of an investment. In today’s instant access information age it’s very easy to be drawn off course by many sources that can jeopardize your longer term investment path. Particularly companies in the early stages of firming their position which leads to measured stages of prosperity over extended periods. The day in/day out effects of the emotional roller coaster rides represented by gyrating share prices with these types of equities can have a real wearing effect on a person’s psyche. But, what can go along with this exercise is a form of discipline creating a life lesson on perspective and the development of being able to recognize what’s truly important in life. Financial gain will always just represent convenience to me more than anything else. As far as quality of life goes I’ll always choose a loving family, good friends and a quality stock message board over everything. The unbridled enthusiasm reflective in such social settings delivers a comradery of richness to life that can’t be measured in dollars. At times I get that feeling on this board and I would just like to take this opportunity to express my appreciation to all those who have taken time to share their unique individual qualities while contributing a wealth of information with the sincere intent of benefiting others.
An important attribute to develop and hone when investing in the markets over time which leads to amassing more wealth is the ability to anticipate as opposed to react.
Today really had a July 1st feel to it. With the technicals being so primed to the upside I can really see CLWD finishing in the green over the next two trading days with possibly a PR early part of next week creating the catalyst we've all been waiting for.
"We as share holders have to be able to read between the lines of smoke to see the future." Great conveyance.
I've been adding as well over the last three trading days. Way too attractive at these levels.
Thank you for sharing. Much appreciated.
Uh, at these levels it would only take 5.4M to buy the entire float.
Excellent point.
CLWD share price closed at .0023 on the day the 10Q came out for the 1st quarter and traded in the .0013-.0019 range for the proceeding 20 trading days. Friday we closed at .0096 representing a nice 315% share price appreciation over the last three months. I'm betting CLWD doesn't trade slightly lower over the next twenty trading days this time around. It should be quite a monumental ride if they are able to meet projections over the next two quarters.
Okay--what did I miss. Just kidding.
I guess you could call this reality check day in OTC land. Or was it?
June 8th—22 days prior to quarter ending—“CloudCommerce, Inc. (CLWD), a leading provider of digital advertising solutions, today announced that in spite of the economic downturn caused by the COVID-19 pandemic, the Company has recently increased revenue from its existing client base and added new clients within the past few weeks.”
But yet revenues from the previous quarter are down 24.6%
Why only one new client PR for the last four and a half months?
June 16th—14 days prior to quarter ending—“CloudCommerce, Inc. (CLWD), a leading provider of digital advertising solutions, today announced that it now expects 2020 full year revenue to exceed $14 million and net operating income to exceed $1 million.”
So, this means they have to average at least 4.2 million in revenues for both quarter 3 & 4--quite a jump from $2,412,221.
My favorite was the July 15th 8K hiccup that was later amended on July 20th.
And you can’t help but wonder why all the contrarians on this board are so anal about CLWD justifying its value when its share price isn’t even at one times market cap. If that’s their main concerns in OTC land shouldn’t they be over on the KNO$ /OPT* boards. Or the multitude of other companies on the OTC exchange with less revenues and higher market caps.
Is it just me or are things just not quite adding up in the murky depths of OTC land.
I can tell you this for sure no one is getting my shares.
On August 3rd in post #19041 Sello stated: "revenues that I believe are being underestimated by most predictions"
and in response in post #19046 I stated: "That's one of the line items I'll be most curious about in the statement of operations section of the 10Q. Particularly in quarters 3 & 4. If their platform has a definitive uniqueness causing potential clients to recognize their services as being one of the most effective in the industry then I anticipate we'll experience one of those quarters where the revenue figure displays an incredible upside surprise. That factor will be a real driving force in getting the share price to the 6X's revenue market cap."
CLWD: still the best long term hold in OTC land.
Shame on you. Leave some for the others.
Heading out myself for my daily blissful walk through the pines. Life is good.
Stock share prices in OTC land are more momentum driven than companies on major exchanges. The fact there isn't an exact date announced in advance for earnings really causes this factor to become more evident. So, what timing of the release would be in the best interest for CLWD? Well, the three PR's they came out with during the 2nd QTR were towards the end dated June 8,16 and 25th. Indicating they had a good in the ballpark idea of what the revenue generated might be for the quarter. The content of the articles referenced strength of business through the pandemic; excellent financials/revenue growth projections for the year; and the signing of another large client. All very positive. Timing--well taking the OTC into account a release on Friday a couple hours before the end of trading day would create a lot of end of day movement. Enabling a lot of potential investors the opportunity to read over the 10Q this weekend. Creating larger volume days next week and in turn not enabling the MM's the same playing field they've dominated this week.
Not terrible at all. Just sound intellectual reasoning on your part.
Not wanting to take responsibility for your "own" actions is not a very admirable trait to possess. The only force causing "you" to sell is the frenzy "you" create in your "own" mind.
You summed it up very well hbhmb.
Well, I'd be complaining if it was only $100 a day. I began my position on June 12th. 43 trading days ago holding 15,500,000 free shares with an average price of .0031 per share. Factoring the closing price today it equates to $4,325 and change earned on average per day. This isn't a holding you flip for a few bucks this is one you build wealth with. Two entirely different forms of investing. The only thing on this board representing delusion is jfran.
"I'm ready to weather the storm no matter what is coming."
Hopefully this will help.
I see a lot of share price predictions posted on the board and the majority reflect more of a shorter term perspective. I thought I’d take some time and share some longer term thoughts that represent what motivates me more these days when evaluating a potential holding as opposed to stock price movement.
First of all I like the sector CLWD is in. Let’s face it fewer business and corporate dollars are being spent these days due to the effects of Covid-19. But, the flipside is that digital advertising industry is more relied on under these types of conditions. Reflective in the fluff piece CLWD released on June 8th about “powering through the pandemic.” Based on this, and also taking into consideration the stable foundation their financials currently reflect, I find myself really looking forward to the next couple years.
Their top-line revenue growth from 4th Qtr of 2019 to Qtr 1 ending March of 2020 reflected nearly a 27% increase. The numbers I’m projecting reflect a more conservative figure based on a sequential 15% growth rate per quarter. If we project to the quarter ending June 30, 2022 the TTM (trailing 12 month) revenue total would be $32,146,770. Again, keep in mind that percentage figure is probably real low end. But, using that as an example--one time market cap would be .05 cents. It’s any ones guess what multiple might be applied. Companies that display consistent sizable revenue growth quarter after quarter throughout the history of the stock market always receive a very generous multiple. 6X’s .30/8X’s .40/ 10X’s .50 who knows? I know one factor to take into consideration being how high multiples actually are these days and the fact they’ll be even higher two years down the road equates to all those being very conservative numbers. This will certainly open the door for a reverse split without any type of depreciation share price wise. Conveying a hypothetical using .40 plus cents a share with a 1 for 10 reverse split puts the share price above 4 dollars with market cap 8 times revenues. I’d think it’s safe to say it would be Nasdaq ready.
The best part of all this would be the appreciation of your share price. Using a multiple of 5 bringing the share price to .25 with a buy in price .02 or under would realize a gain of over 1,250%. I know some of the younger investors would look at two years being a lifetime but you’d be hard pressed to find anything in your portfolio comparing to this over the same period.
Excellent summation!
If my memory serves me correctly I believe last quarter the 10Q was released around 12:30pm Eastern time. I hadn't started my position yet but I was prowling the message board.
It has all the characteristics of a MM’s dream stock when you factor in size of float, no dilution as Divest recently mentioned and respectable financials. Its trading dynamic is as close as you’re going to find at these levels resembling a stock on a major exchange as MJAM has pointed out on a number of occasions on this board. Personally speaking I like the action. It represents nothing more than a novelty holding for me and I’ll be very concentrated on its financials released every quarter and that will be the primary indicator for me as opposed to share price activity on whether I continue to hold my position. Like you’ve mentioned the market always finds a stocks true value and over time that will hold true for this equity. With Covid-19 putting so much strain on the economy and effecting so many peoples personal income I hope nothing but the best for all investors regardless of trading philosophy. I also have been meaning to mention as I’ve read your posts over the months the innate (gut feel) reflected in your assessment of CLWD’s potential share price activity. I’ve always found charting to be very important when anticipating a stocks movements but I rank ones intrinsic abilities just as high. It’s a great attribute to possess.
The MM's sure marked their territory today. Their response to the all out blitz towards the end of Friday's trading day.
What are traditional market measurements these days? That actually started becoming very convoluted during the 2007-2008 Global Financial Crisis. I’m sure most of you recall (long story short) the bursting of the housing bubble which in turn wreaked havoc on financial institutions globally resulting in an international financial crisis causing the “Great Recession.” To me that really signified when the U.S. Markets began to defy mirroring the condition of the economy. Until that time the markets were very consistent in mimicking the mood of what was going on economically. If good/bad news surfaced whether it was domestic or international the markets would certainly reflect it on the day the news was released.
So what changed when compared to the other monumental market events throughout history? Well, the Federal Reserve really got involved this time. Providing extraordinary monetary policy tools never used before and that caused a natural decoupling of the state of the economy versus the stock market.
I’m always somewhat dismayed by individual’s refusal to look at the bigger picture. People keep asking the question “why does the stock market keep going up when economic conditions are so bad?” Well, there’s been a very clear illustration of this during the last thirteen years hanging in the Investor’s Hall Of Fame over by the “Global Financial Crisis” and “Covid-19” enshrinements. It’s called liquidity.
When you look at the Covid-19 crisis as an example the stimulus the Fed had recently dumped into the economy represented a third of the GDP causing the markets to do a reversal based on money now being on the sidelines ready to enter representing all different types of groups and individuals consisting of a wide range of monetary levels. That degree of money flow wave has a tendency to gradually wash away traditional market measurements for an extended period of time and in some cases create new level of standards. Is “Trade Desk’s” market cap deserving of a 32X’s revenue valuation? Are you going to be the investor who sticks to traditional market measurements for the industry stringently staying with a 6X’s market cap valuation and missing out on 380+ dollars being reflected in each share you previously own?
Be the person who recognizes the current movements represented by market climate and adjust accordingly that way you won’t be the individual who tries to camouflage his ever growing level of frustration as the stock price appreciates, who appears on the equities message board donning a white cape everyone sees through, with aimless misdirected posts futilely trying to convince investors it’s better to have a stock price reflecting traditional fundamentals as opposed to an additional 400 percent gain for each Trade Desk share they owned.
Here’s to a potentially epic week for CLWD!!!
"You realize that market caps are what you should be comparing, and not PPS?" Base your rationale using OPTI as an example. 1.35 billion shares times .1340 equals 180,900,000. I won't even post their revenue numbers because it's too embarrassing. Their recent activity based solely on future revenue projections. Standard measurements hardly apply to the OTC. Too many variables.
Last two trading days represents the attention it deserves. Next week could be a real milestone. Everyone have a great weekend.
Personally speaking--gathering information on a board should always be supplemental. Always best to apply your own analysis when making decisions. That way "you will find" fewer days of holding the short end of the stick.
Psychologically speaking--a human's expression of hostility is very predictable and speaks volumes.
Hey Reeper,
Thanks for the running commentary on the chart action. It's a nice addition to an already well established board. You're absolutely right over the years I have found the "Heikin Ashi" makes trends much more easier to analyze. Hope you plan on sticking around awhile.
Isn't that the truth. Always a new flavor of the day on the OTC.
Do you know how to read and interpret for that matter financial statements?
"revenues that I believe are being underestimated by most predictions"
That's one of the line items I'll be most curious about in the statement of operations section of the 10Q. Particularly in quarters 3 & 4. If their platform has a definitive uniqueness causing potential clients to recognize their services as being one of the most effective in the industry then I anticipate we'll experience one of those quarters where the revenue figure displays an incredible upside surprise. That factor will be a real driving force in getting the share price to the 6X's revenue market cap.
I would really like to get your feedback and thoughts from members on this board related to the potential of election/political client revenue. I know back in the June 16th PR Van Noy made reference to the fact there wouldn't be any. But now that Parscale's role has changed do you think that avenue is open? I'm still undecided whether that would be in the best interest of the company going forward.
Appreciate any comments.
I'll take it! Looking forward to earnings report on Wednesday!
Since I found myself taking a trip down memory lane earlier today I feel I must share this experience with you since it relates to your presence. When all the air was coming out of the Tech Bubble I had numerous short positions and on one of the boards there was a contrarian (his moniker escapes me at the moment) who would post detrimental technical jargon related to the company that reflected real in depth research on his part and I found it to be very educational. The applied content and skill level in which he conveyed throughout his posts in a consistent manner even caused the last of the bag holders to marvel at his abilities. One day he simply stated in a communicative post he shared with them that “he never allowed his emotional desires to be the antagonist get in the way of his intellect.”