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again, sorry for the losses
2 points:
1.It was not my intention to sway investors one way or another, my perspective has been that the situation can turn around, but perhaps would take a "change of heart" and some tough truth-telling, but not impossible, even with the eik news. Still possible.
2.I tried to post what i saw in the sec report and relate it to what people were saying on this board about RSM's integrity, and i publicly asked Salnikov, Segal on another board to repair the situation and help us trust them again. other than that, as far as I know their reputations remain in tact even while questions are being raised. But time is of the essence and I think all serg/salnikov related entities need to CLOSE DEALS at this time.
current serg management refused the deal and returned the shares; NWOG could do similar things re Nord as pointed out eik; and dreamofsailing talked about aurus moving away from rsm and the controversy at the time. So the past cannot exclude honest actions of the present. And rsm/Salnikov deserves a chance to clarify the serg situation. Current management investigating and will file publicly in accordance with reporting requirements. We truly don't know, as I interpret what is being said, RSM may have been deceived in the audit as well and has distanced itslef from it. "The case of the RSM audit" saga will continue and make for interesting reading, but please, i really prefer not to be a public "accuser" even if that's where some people go with it:)
again, soory for your losses, and I would feel awful if this thing spikes up knowing I influenced you somehow - - usual disclaimers, all IMO ect .. .do own DD don't rely on boards ect...
gLTY
I think what you are talking about is a nord acuisition
By NWOG that seems to be a tax number match for serg-claimed property.
There is no confirmation of that, but it is certainly intriguing and requires research/verification. i didn't suggest Malyshev knowlege of segal, only nord (acquired by nwog) relationship to property acquired by serg from people with the same name (jalovian). Gets kind of complicated . . .
EIK, I think I see the point - - these are "shell phase" topics, and now NWOG should not be tainted by the serg audit problems. i generally agree and am on the same side, as you know.
But my integrity tells me that I need to point out that NWOG "investment report" at website in opening part about the auditor clearly has the name salnikov as the one preparing the statement. But, Specbidder, NWOG has since separated itself from RSM, has acquired and independent auditor, and seems to have moved past RSM.
Hope this helps.
yes that's a non-starter
definitely different people, I might have deleted that post myself . . .
Interesting your efforts to track down the transfer agent, I have read some of your back posts. Thanks for your work.
hope you got the info you needed. look to serg 8-k's for info on volganeft, sift through my myriad postings on the topic for details.
Good luck to you.
NEUTRAL ON THIS STOCK. management change of heart my great hope so i can get in.
I do too and I am so sorry
about your losses, i have a similar decision looming in the future on NWOG . . .
But I am still praying that changes of heart can transform a situation. so we will see how the mysterious ways of God work here.
Tom
aurc relevant - - audit discussion (thanks 2c)
what video is this with Malyshev?
curious because there was a deleted message.
2create's video linked on aurc board info right at beginning of video Salnikov speaks of "star volga" and corrects himself to say star energy, this is translated by mrs. 2c: this is the company for volga-neft. He also mentions stargold which has been tanking lately. German boards really going after these stocks
Jalovian property sold to marcus segal for serg -- another jalovian sold property to Malyshev at nwog (nord oil) confirmed tax number match for property claimed by serg. Salnikov did audit for "investment project" posted at Malyshev's nwog website www.szng.ru see rsm in beginning of that report and you will see his name (use english version if needed, it's there).
Interested in Malyshev info.
Thanks
Brent, you're the one I thought of tonight
I don't do religion on the sleeve (I'm too liberal for you), but there are businessmen tonight I am praying for, who can really hurt themselves and others if they make some wrong decisions at this time, and I hope you and your friends will hold them up in the coming days.
I thought prayer would work, and I know you believe in that:)
No details, the prayers can be generic:) God knows what to do and how to move here:)
Tom
OT:
aurc and salnikov crowd when I get through with them
thanks for the compliments, spooky
but I have to respectfully turn down the kudos. For "street cred" I can't be a basher, and since I am not invested here I really have no desire to get involved in street wars.
But good for you noticing the import of what the serg situation means for RSM-TOP related entities. For my take on it, click on my name and look at my sgdm post (please don't re-post it, I have friends who have money on these stocks and it is not my desire to hurt them). i honestly hope Salnikov and Segal and all others involved with these deals will prove definitively that they are not "pump on hope" operations with absolutely no intention to follow through on deals.
But investor was right, I really don't know if this buyout at aurc is going to happen or not - - these folks just need to throw the knife one way or another, it's the "stringing people out" that's unseemly, and now that we know at least one company has had a bad experience with a RSM-Top Salnikov deal, that we remain vigilant and require answers. I pray the managers do the right thing so all can win, however these deals may have started (honest or otherwise) it can still turn out ok with a change of heart.
Thanks again spooky and good luck
Glad you did this
I am not bashing . . .
My truest hope is Salnikov will somehow speak to the situation at serg about how that audit at rsm top for serg went so bad, so Aurc, Nwog, sgdm, and russo won't have to suffer as bystanders.
Good luck to you investor!
everyone please read the sec information at this link
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=20745084
It is important for segal and Belchenko to assure all investors that there will not be a repeat of the serg situation, that the deal is finalized, and that the audit is legitimate (get a u.s. major to sign off on it for once). if these steps ar not taken, this stock truly is worthless, probably worth a penny at most.
I do not accept at face value accusations coming out of Germany that this and other companies soley existed for a television marketing campaign by Markus Frick in Germany. It seems a conspicuous way to do something dirty. i am a much simpler person: if you want me to buy and support your stock first be an honest person with a good track record. Second have an honorable firm confirm what you own. Third follow through on your deals.
Folks, it's not that complicated: Belchenko can tell us who he is and what he owns, and he can give a definitive statement about the intention to be bought by sgdm. Belchenko and Segal can reassure us that, unlike serg, we will not wake up two months from now and read as in the link above (http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=20745084
)that the audit was a scam, and that the purchase agreement is off.
A direct approach would really do wonders here. Like it or not sgdm and serg are related by blood. Belchenko is the key here, and I'm not sure if Segal fully understands the PERMANENT damage to his business rep about to take place if he does not make this deal honest and transparent, because the SERG fiasco as laid out in the link above is HIS baby.
There was an old saying in Hollywood (I know Segal makes movies): "You'll never work in this town again". i think this has already happened to Gerald Parkin, and Segal is next. i hope for his sake that he gets busy with Belchenko and they hire a reputable auditing firm, and announce their intentions boldly and in a reassuring way. A publicity firm and a lawyer to help his personal reputation is what i suggest for Segal. Otherwise, this stock must be seen as an attempt to engineer a situation as what happened at serg - - a pump on a stock that had no intention of completing its deals.
I have not made conclusions yet. i do not like to question the character of anyone. But it is do or die time for Segal and Belchenko. Either they answer in a credible way the questions concerning the actual value of this enterprise, or it can be certain this stock will fall to even perhaps a penny.
Please, Mr. Segal, redeem yourself, and make this stock where you make your stand to prove your business reputation. You need to do this because of the problems at serg. Also - - Salnikov and RSM need to redeem themselves. The best way to do this is to ensure the health of past patrons and stocks related to past associates (like ruso)- - NWOG, AURC, sgdm, serg. Mr. salnikov, mr. Segal, Mr. Hutchison - - go clean and transparent NOW because the past is encroaching. And make these stocks in your past successful to protect your future. 2c perhaps you can help them not throw their careers away in a behind the scenes role.
All is IMO - - and I am still holding judgement to see if people rise to the occasion, which I still believe is possible. But anyone who reads the sec report in the link above will understand that the moment is very dangerous, and these stocks are where redemption lie if they choose the right path. i truly hope they do. IMO if I were them i would use all monies and access to monies to make sure these stocks work for investors - - in fact they would be purchasing back their reputations and future ability to work in this business. Let's see what they decide to do.
yes we wil have to wait and see
I do not know enough about aurc to know whether deal will go through or not. Thanks for keeping me honest (again):) no need to reply, but the serg situation is Strange . . . they need to PR exactly what happened there. Only connection aurc - - Salnikov. I replied to a guy who was skeptical and sarcastic about any criticism RSM and I merely wanted to point out the serg situation; this was not an attack on the video. i am neutral on RSM until more info on the situation.
thanks again, you are an excellent resource, I enjoy your posts.
look at the video posted by 2create again
http://stage6.divx.com/user/2Create/video/1126555/AurusDD
you will see rsm representative (in black shirt turtleneck)salnikov talking about rsm and aurc. One of the companies you will clearly hear him say and 2c's wife translate is "starvolga" or "volganeft"
This is the company that just june 14 reported that rsm botched the audit, and that they have sold off the assetts.
let us pray they are not doing the same thing at Aurus that they did at SERG.
please read this post carefully and watch the video to hear salnikov talk about rsm's role in the sale of serg "property" volganeft.
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=20745084
unconfirmed [serg]: volga-neft sale rescinded
http://www.secinfo.com/drPan.uHk.htm
according to sec filing (making it pretty safe bet).
bottom of p.3 (we had already seen before) to top of p.4 (we had not seen before unless we were looking).
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http://www.secinfo.com/drPan.uHk.htm
In April 2007, we were advised that the financial statements of Volga-Neft purportedly audited by RSM Top-Audit in Russia for periods prior to our acquisition of Volga-Neft, that we filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission on a Form 8-K/A on December 8, 2006, should no longer be relied upon because the individuals who purportedly performed the audit were not the auditing firm's representatives. These financial statements pertain to the audited balance sheets of Volga-Neft as of October 6, 2006 and December 31 2005, and the related statements of income, stockholders' equity and cash flows for the period January 1, 2006 through October 6, 2006 and the year ended December 31, 2005. We filed a Current Report on Form 8-K to disclose these developments on May 11, 2007.
-4-
Together with our audit committee, we are carefully examining the events leading to the auditing firm's determination that the financial statements of Volga-Neft included in our December 8, 2006 Form 8-K/A could not be relied upon and whether the management of Volga-Neft acted complicitly with those who prepared the audit. We have engaged special investigative counsel with respect to this matter. We are continuing our investigation and intend to provide updated disclosure through a Current Report on Form 8-K when the investigation is completed.
By a Rescission Agreement of Stock Purchase Agreement dated June 14, 2007 among us, Volga-Neft and the individuals from whom we acquired the shares of Volga-Neft, the Stock Purchase Agreement was rescinded, we returned the shares of Volga-Neft we received to the former stockholders who, in turn, returned to us the 10,000,000 shares of our common stock that we had previously issued. In addition, Volga-Neft issued a $4,200,000 promissory note in our favor which we, in turn, sold to an unaffiliated third party on a non-recourse basis for $3,000,000.
On November 6, 2006, we entered into a Letter of Intent to acquire 100% of the common stock of Samaratransoil Ltd., a company organized under the laws of the Russian Federation, from its sole stockholder in exchange for 1,000,000 shares of our common stock. The consummation of this transaction was subject to certain conditions, including completion of due diligence to our satisfaction. ]b]After performing our due diligence, we determined not to proceed further with the transaction.
On November 28, 2006, we entered into a Stock Purchase Agreement to acquire 51% of the capital stock of Kommunarskoe NGDU, a Russian limited liability company, from its sole stockholder in exchange for 6,000,000 shares of our common stock. The consummation of this transaction was subject to certain conditions, including completion of due diligence to our satisfaction. After performing our due diligence as part of satisfying the closing conditions, we determined not to proceed further with the transaction. Effective June 14, 2007, all parties to this Stock Purchase Agreement agreed not to proceed with the transaction and to end all further negotiations.
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wow.
All parties even remotely related to serg need to close deals.
saw this over on German board
BMO - - bernard m otto wrote to sec re stargold russo and serg. He also posted sec standard form response.
I know that some - - 2 create among them - - see posts like BMO's as a concerted short effort on otherwise viable stocks. I will observe that the tone and demeanor of BMO's complaint is not how I would have gone about it, and in that sense it may lend credence to 2create's opinion. I will simply post what i saw here with the one more observation that he seems to be alleging (unconfirmed) that serg has somehow not acquired volg-neft. I have not reviewed or studied that allegation. I do not want to repeat or spread such a serious allegation or rumor without looking into it, but i think it is best to simply post what is being said for anybody to evaluate for their own needs. Thank you eik for the space, of course you are not responsible for this or any past posts of mine.
I was looking at serg nord relationship when I saw BMO's early posts and was inspired by some of what i learned to look deeper and post on the topic. I can and will swear that in no way was I ever in contact with BMO in any way other than to read his posts and to attempt to reach him through a public post asking if from Berlin could get my posts on the German board, which never happened. Just yesterday I managed to figure out how to post there, and decided to post my meassages from this board. At that time I was completely unaware of BMO's action. Please do not associate me with his action, I knew nothing about it.
Timing is coincidence, and i in no way support any complaint to the sec at this time, I am not an investor in those stocks, although I considered it, and one time spoke well of serg. i am certainly not in any way part of any concerted effort to either promote or harm the value of any of these three companies, while I am aware that posting this may be playing into a short scheme, or may be providing a service to those who might want to reconsider their investments. At this time I post this as neutral information that might be of interest to American investors unaware of the German board.
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So, hier eine Kopie des von mir bereits angekündigten Schreibens an die Amerikanische Börsenaufsicht (SEC).
Hierin habe ich erläutert und mit Quellenangaben belegt, daß StarGold meiner Ansicht nach insolvent ist und dies melden müsste, aber noch nicht getan hat.
Gleichzeitig habe ich eine Handelsaussetzung beantragt, damit hier nicht noch immer mehr und mehr Zockergeld hineinfliessen kann, bis die SEC geklärt hat, ob die Firma überhaupt "irgendetwas" wert ist.
Auf das Ergebnis darf man gespannt sein, auf jeden Fall hat die SEC wesentlich mehr Befugnisse als die Börsenaufsicht in Deutschland (BaFin).
Wenn die SEC Unstimmigkeiten findet (und bei StarGold gibt es meiner Ansicht nach genug Ansätze), dann könnte eine Handelsaussetzung durchaus naheliegend sein, auch zum Schutz der Anleger.
Hier eine Kopie dessen, was ich an die SEC geschrieben habe (natürlich leider alles auf Englisch, ich hoffe möglichst viele von Euch können überhaupt nachvollziehen, was ich hier schreibe):
Bernd M. Otto
bmo@online.ms
June 23, 2007
SEC Complaint Center
100 F Street NE
Washington
D.C. 20549-0213
enforcement@sec.gov
Urgent: Request for a trading suspension
Insolvency (not filed yet) of StarGold Mines, Inc. (OTC BB symbol: SGDM)
Dear Sir/Madam,
StarGold Mines is an OTC BB stock (symbol: SGDM).
The company’s complete business address is:
StarGold Mines, Inc.
1840 Gateway Drive
Suite 200
San Mateo
California
It was a worthless shell company until end of 2006, its former name was Sockeye Seafood Group.
It was then renamed to StarGold Mines by those who paid 0.0001$ per share.
The company has no operational business, but claims to have acquired a Russian company called Univers company, which shall have huge resources.
There is no proof that there are such resources and besides that - why should a company with huge resources accept to be acquired by a company which has no cash and therefore pays with stock, which is totally worthless at that time?
It is quite obviously that there is something wrong here.
The company has already issued 81 million shares, and has 1 billion (!) shares authorized, see filings.
The acquisition has not been completed until now, and StarGold does not have any other business.
Therefore this company is totally worthless at the moment.
It has been totally worthless all the time, but had a market cap of over 600 million $ (!) at the top.
It was promoted by a German stock promoter who recommended it daily over a time period of several months, making it similar to a stock spam.
He stopped recommending it on 1st June 2007.
Take a look at the chart to see for yourself what happened then.
The stock dropped sharply, but is nevertheless far overvalued.
Currently it trades at 1.00$ (closing price June 22, 2007).
The market cap is 81 million $ right now, quite unbelievable for a company having nothing else than its own shares.
The German market has a more than 10 times higher volume compared to the OTC BB daily volume, so the stock price is obviously made at the German market (Frankfurt).
The investors in Germany seem to have problems finding a right valuation for the stock.
Most people here do not have the ability to read and understand filings, and they are mislead by the current stock price, which looks cheap compared to the high stock price when the stock promotion was still going on, but the current market cap isn't cheap at all.
The inability of the German investors to find a right valuation enables those persons who paid 0.0001$ per share only a few months ago to unload even more shares here, day after day.
Please stop this by suspending this stock from trading.
I know that OTC BB is full of stock scams, but StarGold is one of a kind.
A stock having reached a market cap of over 600 million $ at the top while being totally worthless all the time should be quite unusual for you, too.
It can even drop 95%-99% from now on, and it will do so in my opinion.
You can only stop German investors from putting more and more money into this stock by suspending it from trading, at least for some days.
You should especially do so because the company is de facto insolvent and should have filed for insolvency back in march, but hasn't done so.
Please take a look at the quarterly report (form 10-QSB) dated March 31, 2007, filed May 16, 2007.
Full details here: www.secinfo.com/d12TC3.upTq.htm
The company claims to have a 1 million $ loan receivable (see note 3) from Univers company, the company that they wanted to acquire.
There is no assurance that this claimed asset is really an asset, I don't think so.
Please keep in mind that the acquisition of Univers company has still not been completed, and there is no information available about Univers and if they have any assets.
There is another stock scam very similar to this one, it is called Star Energy, OTC BB Symbol SERG(E).
The similar name is not just a coincidence.
Marcus Segal is a manager for both companies and the German stock promoter also promoted Star Energy.
There are a lot more things that I could explain to you, but this would go beyond the scope of this letter.
Please note that the German public prosecutors started investigations about the German stock promoter and StarGold and Star Energy.
Star Energy also was a worthless shell company before and also claimed to have acquired a Russian company with "huge resources" called Volga-Neft.
Same story, same chart.
They just had to file that the acquisition was rescinded: www.secinfo.com/drPan.uHk.htm (search for "rescinded").
StarGolds acquisition of Univers hasn't been completed at all, and the loan receivable from Univers is no asset at all in my opinion.
There is no information avaible about Univers company, that the claimed resources do really exist and so on.
If you ignore this false asset "1 million $ loan receivable from Univers", and in my opinion you have to do so, the 2007 Q1 balance sheet (www.secinfo.com/d12TC3.upTq.htm) would look as follows:
Total current assets: 10.327 $
Total liabilities: 45.532 $
StarGold is de facto insolvent.
They had 10.327 $ cash as of March 31, 2007 and had a loss of 23.262 $ in 2007 Q1.
With this cash burn rate they lose 7.754 $ per month, so they should have gone out of cash mid of May 2007.
You need more evidence that this is a stock scam and that the company should already have filed for insolvency?
Again, please take a look at the quarterly report (www.secinfo.com/d12TC3.upTq.htm).
Please scroll down to note 5.
"In March 2007, the Company issued 25,000 shares for services valued at $2,500.
In March 2007, the Company issued 83,200 shares for cash of $8,320."
So they issued new shares in March 2007 for 0.10$ per share?
The stock traded between 5.10 and 7.00 $ in March (!!!).
This clearly shows that the company needed to issue shares not to run out of cash and to be able to pay invoices further on.
Noone knows what that they have done in Q2 so far, and how much additional cheap shares they have issued.
It is quite obvious that the company should have filed for insolvency and hasn't done so.
Even though it's an OTC BB stock this is such a huge violation of SEC rules that I ask you to suspend the stock from trading until StarGold has clearly stated their current financial situation (which should lead to filing for insolvency) and if they have continued in Q2 to issue cheap new shares to get cash and to pay invoices.
By suspending the stock, you could also protect German investors from putting more and more money into this stock.
I apply for an SEC investigation and for a trading suspension until a final decision has been reached.
Please send a confirmation of this complaint and your decision to me via e-mail:
bmo@online.ms
Thank you!
Yours faithfully,
Bernd M. Otto
Der Verfasser ist CEO der Investment24 AG.
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thanks for this, episode over eom
I saw a picture similar to this one recently
http://www.litasco.com/products/product.html
thought I would post because it explains the processing at these refineries that NWOG seems to be interested in building, not sure if it's the same picture as the other one (I think that one was older than this updated version). At any rate i think the picture is interesting. NWOG started out trading with Litasco anyway.
This is just a stereotype of perceiving business. It’s assumed, that small companies would better not hang out, if they don’t want to become subject to takeover. But we have nothing to hide as per our past. There are no skeletons in the closet, as the English say. Therefore we stand for publicity and transparency.
http://www.szng.ru/2206_e.html
2c want to apologize to you
and thank you for this work.
I had an unconsidered impression of the fact you are no longer posting at AURC and your post questioning the management. I simply haven't considered the topic closely enough to make a judgement and should not have posted adversely concerning you.
Thanks to specbidder and dave for giving me a chance to reconsider a hasty judgment made when I was tired.
agree not one of my better posts
Thanks for mature response and I'll try to stick to the more informative stuff. meant what i said about how I enjoy your work/posts. See message to specbidder.
sng is not an auction
they have announced that they are purchasing the company (in final stages to be completed in 2 months as of last december lol). Eik thought he detected sng would be discussing at meeting last wed, but he later posted they didn't discuss NWOG at the meeting, let alone finalize a sale of their company.
The auction the 21rst was for the Davidovsky license
http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/070522/0256160.html
thanks
will check my assumptions. i appreciate the defense of 2c, will consider the question further before i say anything. I think I see where you are coming from, although i still don't understand disappearance from aurc board. But you are right, the man shares his info and we should thank him as well as you for the brilliant dd you posted today. Sgdm up taday. i am missing it because I am too skeptical, ouch. was a bit cranky last night. don't post when you're tired lol.
GLTY
OPEN MESSAGE TO MARCUS SEGAL
YOU HAVE TO BE HONEST AND MAKE PEOPLE TRUST YOU, OTHERWISE SERG, SGDM AND RUSO ARE GOING DOWN THE TUBES. YOUR PROBLEMS BEGIN WITH NORD OIL AND THE FIASCO THERE. GET NWOG UP AND YOU WILL BE GIVEN SOME LASSITUDE. JALOVIAN GAVE YOU VOLGA-NEFT BEFORE TAKING CARE OF NORD. GET NWOG UP, BE COMPLETELY TRANSPARENT, AND YOU HAVE SOME HOPE OF EXTRICATING YOURSELF FROM THIS NIGHTMARE. GOOD LUCK TO YOU
me too
this guy has new fans in Chicago. refer him this way for a commission:)
great stuff.
Know something new about you rover:)
I'll be signing off . . .
I call B.s.
on you dave.
2c pumping this - - track record aurus and nwog - - and others. You have my respect, but don't knock skeptics, this one is crap shoot, and you know it. i wish i didn't read posts like this from you because otherwise i think you are an excelent poster and source to follow. Seriously i respect you, but still I call bs on this post.
otherwise . . . . I hope you are well, and I hope your daughter is doing well in Moscow . . . you are a great poster, please don't become a shill for 2c
2c you ignor and disrespect me. i think what you did at aurc was despicable, and you can quot me. some legitimacy to be regained, and it won't be so easy this time.
Tom
OT: the important thing is the art:)
what is it?:)
will be here a while if you want to tell me, I am on vacation so i pursue my interests - - i take liberties with eik, he lets me off with murder, and he is not responsible for anything i post (hope Nord and NWOG people know thAt:)
Seriously, what's the art?
Why doesn't Segal
use serg assets to increase value for the "portfolio".
Just like Nord Jalovian - - why not raise Nord value before helpin serg??? it's all in the SP . . .
skeptical. But just because I'M paranoid doesn't mean sgdm isn't headed for 7 again:) This is one of those irrational things you go on gut I guess. i lost so much on nwog I can't play it, but I really am curious about this one. Watch this rise 5x before my (crying) eyes as I sit on sidelines:)
Thanks rover.
Btw - - I love the art, can you send ot message to let me know what it is, is this something i can buy?
this is what you are looking for, I think.
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=20512269
It was on the Nwog board, your reply matches what you are looking for, but the original post is a bit of a yawner, some of the posts around it at same time may have had a bit more info.
On the investment project pdf only kalinin and shalinsky is discussed. i am learning more about the "fund" and find a remark in the Assoneft interview of Malyshev interesting, you'll have to look at it but it seems to indicate assistance from authorities to develop resources. There were both federal and local funds allocated to "reorganize" and create better effinciency in the oil and gas industry of the region c.2003. we see the licenses for two of the five properties posted on the investment report. We discussed a long time ago that one of the licenses, the field associated with neftegasenergo, but in the name of SZNG and with the name of surgko, (formerly associated with slavneft-related obneftgasgeologiya; surgutneft???) the kalinskiy in the name of malyshev. the others are in press as being acquired in auction by other companies. Russneft is a close partner on the Kalinsky site. According to the website, NWOG had contracts with Bashkortostan refinery salavtnefteorgzintez, which was acquired by gazprom, and Moskovskiy NPZ, owned by Moscow govt., i assume to sell oil that is pumped (by NWOG/Russneft) and transported (by transneft). NWOG also traded its oil with Projector (look up former Glencore/Marc Rich employee Jonathan Kollek who founded Projector in 1992, then became Tnk-Bp main trader in 2002). It also traded with lukoil trading arm Litasco and petrocraft (uk, but has branch in swiss same city as glencore (zug, something like that).
Thanks for the clarification on "nort". I think it best not to float "conspiracy" and to give every chance that there is a Nord relationship somewhere in there somehow even if not obvious. i am not on a scam hunt . . . but it looks unlikely that is the source of Nord name - - but I will note that ownership and national identity of wsr- - sweden - - is of relevance b/c of a certain Finnish citizen close to putin perhaps and the company saga that appears to own the property russoil is claiming. Scandanavian "trace" as it were.
I want to mention the yemelyonov picture from the archived website is from October 2005 version of the website, meaning that the "Nord Oil Product" stamp on the picture preexisted the WSR acquisition of Saneko. That would put "Nord Oil Product" in the general universe of SANEKO, specifically the subsidiary reimpeks (rosimpeks), which may give insight into dzalovian relationships. will note that at the Nord website there are strange questions marks that go with the title of each license. i'm noticing that these shells sometimes are in "talks" or discussions for acquisitions and start selling before the deals are done (the case with stargold, russoil IMO)- - if that is the case here, then possibility the deals for these properties were part of NWOG merger all along, which would make the deal legit, but the marketing and pumping of the shares most corrupt and deceitful. All speculation.
Next up (#2) - - Kommynar field. Was its license acquired by Alyans RK or by eleksbrokers????? mysterious illegible material on the license and an additional page with a stamp by eleksbrokers. Found some interesting stuff to look for re: Leonid Tarazanov. Should be posted today.
following the nord licenses #1 yemelyanov:
1. September 3 2001 Nord pdf license (in the name of reimpeks samara neftepromisel see http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=20521422
mark that message for all future references to Nord licenses) says that reimpeks receives license rights to YEMELYANOV. See Yemelyanov license at eik post #1232. reimpeks samar neftepromisel (elsewhere rosimpeks samar neftepromisel)is owned by SANEKO, or Samara oil company.
2. January 24 2006 West siberian Resources purchases Saneko, the owner of "reimpeks Samara Neftepromisel"
3. West Siberian Resources largest shereholder ALLTECH signs and agreement with REPSOL (Argentina/Spain) for 10% shareholding. The 90 million that repsol pays in parts helps defray the cost of the Saneko acquisition.
http://www.commersant.com/p647205/r_500/Repsol_YPF_Buys_Stocks_of_West_Siberian_Resources/
4.10/4/2006 West Siberian Resouces sells YEMELYANOV for 7.1 million (see p. 4):
http://www.skrin.ru/analytics/reviews/documents/wsr_061113_rus.pdf?d127f9cc4f9c4bfaa9ff4872b602376f
5. November 7 2006 WSR purchases "nortoil":
http://www.vesti70.ru/news/full/?id=9283
Swedes bought Russian oil company 03.11.2006 Source : B92 Swedish company West Siberian Resources (WSR) has "Nortoyl", which holds a license to develop a deposit in Kolvinskogo Timano-Pechorskoy petroleum province. The transaction amounted to $ 115 million, said the official communication company. Inventory Nortoyla exceed 138 million barrels of oil. West Siberian Resources anticipates that three years would be able to produce up to 25,000 barrels per day. Kolvinskoe located 200 kilometres from the major Haryaginskogo field. It was opened in 1986. The WSR's land "Nortoyla" drilled 18 wells. Of these, eight were found hydrocarbon reserves. Now, the new owners must build a pipeline and the drilling of 34 wells. WSR is an independent company, which has a number of assets in Russia. In particular, WSR produces oil in Sredne-Nyurolskom, Klyuchevskom and Hvoynom fields in the Tomsk region, as well as Sredne-Haryaginskom field in the Yamal-Nenets district. Its receipts traded on the Stockholm Stock Exchange
At first glance this "nortoil" that owns the license to kolvinskoye field is related to the "other Nord Oil" that was taken over by Rosneft
http://www.finiz.ru/cfin/tmpl-art_news/id_art-771199
- - HOWVER this is the first time I actually felt the name "nord" may have come from that company via west siberian resources and its relationship to Saneko and its subsidiary that owned Yemelyanov reimpeks (or rosimpeks) samara neftepromisel.
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for further research Alltech, Repsol, "nortoil"
will note that here
http://web.archive.org/web/20051219165850/www.nordoil.com/technical_data.asp
is a picture of the "yemelyanoc" [sic] deposite with a clear "NORD OIL PRODUKT" stamp on it.
apologies to anyone
who missed two day runs on Ruso, serg, and sgdm (3x)because of dd on segal hutchison et al. can't recommend or bash these, if played right, wow . . . of course it was happening before my eyes and i missed it. Still have no idea what buyers/sellers are basing their decisions on. will be interesting to watch how these fare. i'm out because they scare me, and I can't afford to lose the rest of my play money already decimated by NWOG (would mean no more pinks for good, maybe a good thing). But if sgdm goes over 2$ in the next weeks I'm going to cry, having missed the rise to seven and serg's intial rise last year and missing the boat then too.
Man, just to get the timing right . . .
anybody have takes on these stocks and what to do???
correction emil aliyev:
this is the emil aliyev who was speaking in Paris on behalf of the moscow-st. petersburg investment fund (managed by Bernard larpin and globex bank, swiss address of NWOG until change to murcus christe and ficogex). At first glance noticing he worked at tass and was involved with German television and associated press:
http://www.globex-bank.com/sections.asp?s_t=1&id={9A747641-1B1E-4F0C-AD08-C2F9DC749E7F}&subI....
the press connections makes me think speculatively re the press union/press loto connections of Makarov/parkin and sdil, or perhaps even frick or nick danziger. . . lol . . . you're right about speculations, I was really hoping for some smoke out of that SNG board meeting:) Most speculations are WRONG. looking at the Paris meeting account again, I notice that shironov probably wasn't talking about the investment fund, just aliyev, and who knows if he becae us ambassador after this 2005 april meeting. I do notice lebedev was there, as well as motylev and some others so that link is certainly interesting . . .
I'll try to learn more about this aliyev to shake some info out.
btw - - summer vacation great for hobbies like this research:)
speculation
http://www.bibclub.org/pdf/PROGRAMME-rus.pdf
INVESTMENT OPPORTUNITIES in RUSSIA and COUNTRIES OF THE CIS Abdudzhabbor SHIRINOV, the first Deputy Chairman of the national bank of Tadzhikistan presentation Moscow Saint-Petersburg Real Estate Globex Investment Fund Emil ALIYEV *, the Vice President INVESTMENT OPPORTUNITIES in RUSSIA and COUNTRIES OF THE CIS Abdudzhabbor
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Moscow Saint-Petersburg Real Estate Globex Investment Fund was direct match for switzerland/larpin before christe/ficogex change. There might be a lot of people named abdudzhabbor in tajikistan, I personally don't know any:) Perhaps this one is ambassador to u.s. as well as bank of tajikistan official . . .
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emil aliyev
p.30 appendix 1
1. Emil Aliyev
Director of National Economic Centre
Education - graduated from the International Economical Relations Department of
Azerbaijan State Economical University, Baku Branch of the University of France
“Montpellier-1”
Work Experience - Vice-president of “RUS” Group of Companies, Deputy director of
the different branches of “Parabank” JSCB
Attended some national and international training courses and obtained certifications
parabank
http://www.parabank.az/rus/
shironov ambassador
http://www.asiaplus.tj/area/40.html
speculation
safarov
ARMENAK ARTEMOVICH SAFAROV, VICE-PRESIDENT,ACQUISITIONS
He is a graduate of the Tashkent Construction Institute. His past experience in the oil sector includes being a director of the department of Exploitation of NGDU as well as the director of the Department of Oil wells with Sigma Oil Company. Since 1999 he is the president of Nord Oil Holding.
is this one the sigma oil for safarov?
http://www.au92.ru/msg/20060413_slix0kj.html
http://www.sigmainc.ru/
balt-trade relationship may apply
been wondering about this one for a while, also curious if you have theory on identity of orenburg orion associated with Dzhalovian.
any news on that sng board meeting last week?
Are we going to learn that NWOG just acquired SNG this week? Speculators put your money in .. . we may find out and have instant spike.
I have NO inside information - - all IMO. But the SNG situation should have the boards buzzing a lot more than is has to now.
Anyone call sng?
this company hasn't done anything wrong
And already it is punished
Goes to show that business rep and the company you keep matters in the markets.
I would advise Hutchison to hire a firm to restore his rep if he wants this company to succeed. he can start by distancing from segal et al.
KBR bank
on otradnoye license and elsewhere, dzalovian's Nord Oil Product's bank is "KBR bank"
posted this earlier a while back about government function of this bank, may have new meaning:
"The basic strategic partner of bank is the federal agency of the special building of the Russian Federation (special-system of Russia)"
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=16593228
sp rutskiy - - nord oil samara - - samara resurs
on nord pdf joint activity agreement SP Rutskiy is named as owner of Nord Oil Samara in the first paragraph of the document. that document is dated 21 july 2004.
on the otradnoye pdf he is one of the signers for a company called Samara resurs and is named as general director of that company. that document is17th of some month (can't read it) of 2005.
Samara resurs is an offshoot of a company called uralsinvestenergo.
more interpretations of this situation to come.