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everyone ignored the pigeons on other platforms-- so they came over here
when they don't get responses here it'll go away as well lol.
And you said it best
the people who scream the loudest are always the dumbest :)
was it really a paid ad?
Good.
people have been asking for them to put some money into advertising and marketing to reach new investors.
Great that they took the advice.
He's just mad because he said it would never show up anyways, so now that it has he is forced to keep trying to diminish it in any way possible hahahaha
i appreciate the mention
we can only hope! lmao
beautiful contribution.
Thank you!
and i wouldn't dispute any of that
the issue I raise is what happens when they need $3 million cash for acquisitions..
that means they need to sell $30m shares..
that dilution hurts all of us
A LOT
this the largest growing concern that I have
Can we put together a few questions we think would be very important to try and get answers from Leo/Alvarro ?
example: is anything actively being done about the shorting of the stock/ naked shorting if there is any?
The stock is on a clear downward trajectory, what efforts are being taken to reverse the course
to name a few that i'd like some help with
I can email them to Leo or i can message the Ambassador page what we come up with.
Could be beneficial to all of us since we all want the same thing (well most of us)
So then things are going better than expected.
well that's good to hear
I just hope they actually read some of this and take it to heart.
We want the same thing -> for this company to do extremely well, grow, keep growing, get a fair market cap *etc
I've never been a part of a company going from PINK to Nasdaq( or NYSE)
so i always hoped they would be the first (and probably only that i'm apart of)
It takes more than just being a fundamentally strong & growing business. Optics have to be right. News releases have to be perfect.
This isn't a sloppy or fly by night kind of deal.
It requires serious precision and well thought out tactics.
i wouldn't go that far lol
some people express themselves better in person VS through writing so i always try to cut them a bit of slack
they are clearly much better at building a telecom business VS communicating with the english language- which is perfectly acceptable- english is NOT their native tongue
that being said- there's also serious value in under communicating when it isn't actually your strong suit---> which is why I keep saying "names and numbers"
until you can provide that, say less and less and less
A saying/life style that could be very beneficial to them is this
"less is more"
exactly
pot calling the kettle black there fellas ... metaverse... LOLOL
and this is why i can't hold my tongue anymore
the nonstop blunders are overwhelming
WE all know that child that has to learn the hard way.. well they are THAT child.
THey have to learn the hard way.
Refusal to take advice from people who clearly know more than they do.
Jeff DOynow was muted in their ambassador page and he's a guy who has ran giant business before- his advice could have truly been valuable to them
There are others who are EXTREMELY familiar with how the OTC works and the do's and do nots --- all seem to be ignored
I get it, you don't want to just seem like you're playing to the crowd- but at the same time many of us have legitimate thoughts on how to correct things and it just doesn't get through
yeah because putting your hard earned money towards an investment is gimmicky.. right.?
okay lol
Was it my stock that I run that tumbled down into a new 52 week low every week or was it theirs?
I guess it's up for debate as to why that is... you could debate it's the shady wording, or lack of insider buying.. or you could just say it's market conditions.
fair enough.
yeah idk i left that group
lol
they need to start taking advice and changing the way they operate
i got tired of wasting my breath though, they don't listen
lol joe my ihub account has ALWAYS been Crawfors
my stocktwits is my full name
Shane Crawford
ya know it could be
if they get much more I think they have to submit a filing to say they own over 5% of the company
someone put in a bid for 300,000 shares at .13
i'm curious if this is a long, or a new person
yeah you're right - the ship isn't actually sinking, despite all the FUD that is spread around lol
stocks get beat up, that happens
my only annoyance is when they want to buy another business and need cash- only way to get that is by selling shares.. well if you're shares at 13 cents that's a LOT of dilution
part of me hopes they don't give in and do that-- our outstanding shares is healthy as it is- certainly will be once buyers return to the stock,
i'd hate to see that ruined for them to try and add 2-5 more revenue from a tiny business.
you are correct on ALL of this
it SHOULDN'T go any lower, but how many retail still want to sell and jump off the ship?
i'm not sure i'd say that
remember there are 8500 share holders here
some have a lot of shares
some may have sold off a portion, others have not sold any
we knew there would be pain today
i'd look for it to return to 14 cents later this week though (not that- that is good lol)
yeah as long as you are aware, this is not an overnight thing- this is them building a strong and sustainable long term business
then you're good.
and in fairness- that's the way you do it
they honestly just need to be cleaner with prs and with the things they say
optics are everything as i've been saying
don't mislead investors
after 3 years of hearing about it,
yeah i get that
it's great to have long-term goals- but it should NOT be mentioned in every single press release
makes it look way to otc pink
and if we actually have dreams of being on Nasdaq, they need to act like it
no pumpish fluff prs,
ONLY names and numbers
we are aware they meet all nasdaq requirements except the SP- but we are worlds away from the Sp qualifying right now
It's also about time something from smart tank / ev bike sales finally comes to fruition as well, 3 years is long enough.
hopefully this year something is finalized on those
growing in the right direction----> they're doing a good job
and seriously the best move was everyone taking huge pay cuts and cancelling bonuses
there is a lot of good here- I don't want management to think I'm crapping on them, but at the same time there are things they directly need to change.
I'm up in the air on if having a twitter page is actually good for them, or just allows the opportunity for more teasers and unwanted pumps
There's a fine line between communication and overcommunication
ya know on the exterior i'd say expect another 52 week low and 12 cents, but the market never does what you'd expect
of the people i've talked to- none seem to be angry enough to sell as they understand the growing pains of a small company
so with that said- maybe some people will sell, but seems like a lot of the longs are still holding and going about their daily lives & business as usual
the volume probably stays around 200k like it has been the last few months lol
TOMORROW will probably be higher, but the rest of the week?
back to normal
so yeah i'd guess some downward pressure monday- and then pick back up the rest of the week
what do you think?
right?
well the way the financials were pointing- this should have been a knock out quarter (4th)
but it was like it back slid so hard...
i agree with you on the silly prs
1. stop with buzz word PRS
2. stop with misleading prs for example- don't tease 3rd quarter profitability when you then report a loss of 6 million for the year - that is slimy to me- just be forthcoming with investors!
The credibility problem is literally all managements fault
3. Good job to all management on reducing your pay over 50% - good job on NOT taking bonuses. We got nothing but less money on our investment- you shouldn't get a bonus for that. Suffer with us, so again to give credit where it is due- thanks for that.
Like you said- now we have to wait and see where the chips fall this week
that's too bad.
well you were right
did you notice management took a major paycut?
i can't really ride them about buying shares now since they all took over 50% less pay compared to last year.
silver lining i guess
and while they're at it-
have insiders buy shares on the open market!
I actually don't think they're hiding anything-, i've combed over everything time and time again- people a LOT smarter than I am have done the same!
no one has found anything that would suggest illegal or shady practices.
I've read their tweets- I know that they're not evil geniuses masterminding some ultra plan to scam everyone... they just don't have the intellect or wherewithal to accomplish this.
They've truly just dropped the ball on a many great opportunities and been punished by retail selling, combined with shorting.
INvestors/traders have little interest here anymore
I'm bullish on the idea they did 300k profit in q4
and slightly more q1
but I guess we'll see soon enough.
as far as when we get the K? i expect that in after hours today.
wouldn't it be wonderful if after 2/3 years they finally sell a bike and put that on the balance sheet
and this is why i will no longer stay quiet about how they should be buying shares
i've made it plain as day i won't buy anymore until they do
if they show me they feel the shares have value- then I'll resume purchasing.
Til then I'm done.
and everyone should see it this way
you tell me they don't have brokerages account and don't have access ? Give me a break.
They're not really diluting shares ---> it's almost like they're just scatter brained with what they're doing
maybe we see a different story tonight when the filing comes out
This has been my fear for sometime
in the near future- they'll need money to keep the business going
raising 1 million cash is a LOT of shares of dilution now
this was always why they needed to become so profitable the business could sustain itself
Their dilution has been VERY minimal to this point
they've only sold 3m so far this year
but I don't want that to go much higher.
I assumed they'd need to sell another 6-10m before the year is over but i'm only speculating..
soon the Dilution needs to stop completely
i truly do not blame you one bit.
they listen to no one, don't even attempt to learn from mistakes
literal definition of insanity
Someone else said this previously but I swear to God if they come out with a news update about being invested in the new AI technology I'll dump every single one of my shares and immediately start shorting this
i'm curious if management even cares the SP is in the gutter lol
for the life of me, i cannot figure out why insiders have not purchased shares yet
but at the same time, Apollo can't control what retail does
if longs/others keep selling that could potentially see the SP go lower than 10
there we go, yeah I thought they had until september
so you have to ask, is it Apollo helping it fall?
waiting?
was .126 still the cheapest they could exercise at?
or do we think they benefit from it going even lower?
the problem is there hasn't been any kind of run for 2 years lol
there isn't even trading interest here anymore
to me that's extremely suspicious
also they need to deliver on some of the stuff they've talked about.
They reached out to a specialized firm who looks into shorting..
is anything going to come from that?
If they can't deliver in a timely manner ---> it's better to say nothing at all
and if i recall- Apollo was getting those shares at .126
so we're basically to the point now where APollo is no longer making money here if they have been selling shares
Now here's my thing- I'd feel like an @$$ if none of this is Apollo's fault, I wouldn't like to misplace blame, but it seems like a lot of retail got out as they got in
So they've got a hand in things
THe other blame falls heavy on management as they've done NOTHING to protect share holders
DIlution has been relatively minimal which we can all appreciate- but of course more needs to be done.
I keep coming back to the simplest fix- insiders buying shares.
I think September :/
Apollo is not the savior here, they are the destroyer in my opinion
Ultimately management needs to cancel that option
and buy some shares on the open market.
Otherwise- my opinion, is the share price continus to drop.
We clearly have a nefarious entity attacking this
after months of that--> eventually long holders start to sell (which contributes to the declining SP we have witnessed)
it's a vicious cycle
Hey Quigley
I hope you are doing well!
exactly!
all they have to do is buy some shares.
that gets filed. we all see it
means they're confident---> we'd be confident
this isn't hard
they won't have made 3 million profit lol
they should be around $300,000 profit
NO, I'm not shorting this.
I just check in from time to time to feel validated in my decision making skills.