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Looks like we are #20 on I-HUB breakout board looking very nice this morning on the pain reduction news!!!!
Hard to say what the motive is, for the move he elected to make?..maybe they needed more money to fight the law suite lawyers are not free, and the ones they have hired get 500 hour to start, that is not filing fees or anything else.
These guys they have hired command big money, yes the generally get 33 !/3 percent of the win, my feeling is they HCMC don't want to go to court but may have to in order to get there point across too PM.
It is either one of two things that can buy them outright, settle with them and give HCMC an income for use of patent or go to court. last option very expensive, should they pm choose this court. This will put stress on HCMC, mainly due to the money that will be expended.
PM has something north of 2.0 billion dollars cash, they have all kinds of options with that much money, who knows i have a feeling they have been buying HCMC shares on the sly, and if it gets into trips they could just buy out the whole comany 500 million would just about get that done, hostile takeover??...no i don't think that will happen, it will most like be agreed to by HCMC a lot less hassle that way, is why they brought in M&A professional to possibly over see the buyout by PM, JUST MY TAKE!!!
Alot of truth in that bro, time will tell
Shares not trading premarket????
are we halted guys????
Hank in there bro it will come back fast on any positive word.
Maybe, but I am still not selling don't care if it goes to 0 ,no reason for me to panic down here.
Common bro, 110.00 dreaming if you think that will happen, I could think Apple has consoladated over last few weeks should start recover this week.
Think we hit bottom should start to recover, will be a buyer at 122.50 good price on Apple. Glta
Agree,
So why the increase in short position, plus every day last week manipulation on a massive scale, this will lead to a huge short squeeze on any good news out, I would not want to be short on this.
Think he flew the coup, no matter celz will no well over time, with so many working In trials should not be to long before news comes out. These are all connected patents approve one and pretty .much all will be approve, when stem cells first came out George Hubert Bush banned the practice now 15 years latter FDA will approve this procedure that doctors are already performing should not be long now???
Agree,
After this date for court trail should be set within 21 days is the way this court generally works in 30 days slots, so we could expect word from the judge in 21 days for his decision on dismissal!!!
That will not be the case, PM knows they are wrong and they have not denied it either, dismiss?...no chance on a patent infringment case, They have to show the birden of proof PM is correct and they are clearly in violation of HCMC Patents, here is the big part, HCMC could say to PM stop selling all materials connected to our patents both here in the USA and WORLD WIDE. If PM does not comply they open the door to huge punitive damages, since PM is activly selling the product.
Also 24% of PM revenue is derived from the sale, So this is not a matter to willfully dismissal, and the judge will not consider the request to be valid.
So now PM has about 21 days to answer the court again at which time a court date should be set, once this is done, this becomes a whole new ball of wax. PM will then be served notice this is not going away for them so easy.
bro whats wrong with this?
There was billions of shares bought, and still we get killed on pps makes no since at all. Makes me think there is a rat in the wood pile, just gonna have to shoot the SOB.
10 TO 1 AT Least on the buy side the MMs are sure having fu at our expence?, but you know what comes around goes around and there manipulating commuffins will come home to roost.
I am now of mind that i do not give a chit if stock goes to zero it miles well be, i will let those shares sit forever and be a reminder, sell them hell no i am sticking with the thousands of others if its good enough for them its good for me!!!GLTA
Very true bro, just to many buyers here buying the stock, is it way down yes will it recover maybe that is still up for discussion.
This is a great area to buy Apple I expect Apple to recover next week
We will see what they PM comes up with today?..motion to dismiss is a way the burn time up, judge will not grant dismmissal they pm are dreaming!!!
Maybe they grant dismissal, but they have agreement, so that would stand to reason. You do not piss in tall weeds with big dogs, HCMC is a little bog, I think they know that, lawyers of the small bog are giants of there profession, so maybe they can help each other get what they each want? which is to make money.
Let's think about Pm the huge dog, they have 24% Of future growth at steak, if the little dog gets a writ to sess and desist from all further sales of devise infringed upon.
So the big dog will have no choice but too lay down with the small dog, for both dogs this is no longer about a fight, but how do we co exist with each other????......Agreement!!!!
Nice that is quite a bit bigger in such a short time, i have have a strange feeling for awhile that the deal is already done, there has been a solid lid put on both these companies of any kind of talk about the suite.
i would not be suprised one bit if its done already, going to announce it on 26th would be cool. Everyone knows the damage it could do to PM moving forward if this does go to court that is big news??
However i don't think it gets any place close to a court room. This could be a chance for both companies to make a deal that both can live with. A merge buyout or any number of options are possible.
I am excited for the future having hundreds of thousands of shares, even if the pps moved to 5 cents would be huge money for me. Good Luck to all here.
Get lost dude nobody asked you for your stupid comments!!!...go bother another board, nothing but a paid pile of chit!!!!
They are still using patent so there will be a punitive side too this as well!!!
My take is this needs to go away for PM they are going to have to pay, think deal is already done judging by the moves both have been engaged in selling stock and HCMC laying ground work.
Me either i have learned that lession the hard way as many others have as well. If the trade goes bad, i cut my losses and move on to a better trade, but i never enjoy calling people on the carpet, but some frankly are deserving, any ways just saying hopfully HCMC will be the game changer for us all gl bro!!!
HCMC 0.0045 to 0.0050 would be my take shares are drying up so shorts are is deep trouble right now 10 to 1 buyers over sellers tells me short sqweeze could be on the table but will have to see how serous the share count is today hang on guys and gals could get fun latter!!!!
get ready for the ride up latter just a matter of time this takes off today shorty is hunting shares non are avaluble shares are drying up folks!!!!
l-2 showing they are very desperate i can see that in the numbers 3to1 buyers verses sellers!!!...looks like we are going up this afternoon folks shorty is hurting for curtain!!!!...enjoy!!!!
Agree, (HCMC) nothing more than a smoke screen, they want to make it look like they are in control but in fact they a so far on margin and credit they will never get out of the hole they have dug themselves, very surprised they are still around but have manipulated the stock all last week.
Things are a changing, will be many more buyers coming in, 100 million already premarket, whats that say????
Thank you!!!...lets make money bro!!!!
Agree,
HCMC will not be effected by him, everyone knows the stock is good, my years here, i have learned many things, i do feel for others, mostly rookies drawn in by the BS.
Anyways, not worth a minute more of my time, I will let stuff bother me like it used too, i try every trading day to make money thats why i am here, but not being dishonest to anyone is how i roll.
Good Luck to all trading today!!!!
Hate on people that pray on others, have seen him get people to invest while at the other end selling to take advantage, you mean that hate?....he did that to me, few years sack the man is a skunk!!!!
CELZ: Approval on any one of those patents will shoot PPS sky high and the rest will follow suit, and i think right now given the number of patents pending rates a higher pps.
My feeling is that this stock is right now very under valued and should be moving up once the first approval comes, any day now we could wake up to approval and that same trading day will be at least 50 cent pps, so hang onto those shares no matter what.
we are in the final inning with this, the doctors will play a pivital part in breaking this stock wide open, there is just to much good news about how these studies are going as we come out of phase 2 into phase 3
i am very excited about celz future this stock will break records when it gets approval on all these great patents. glta
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Agree, strong hands now in control, the traders holding millions of shares are not going to be scared away, they proved that this last time mms try to drive it down hard many stood there ground as i did, i don't care if it goes lower, in the in we will see victory, we feel pain on our stock but we also know what we own, and there lie the secret.
Trading pennies is maybe the most diffacult of all stocks a large percentage are crap and what is left above that is worse crap, but getting your crap straight is the hard part...lolol
Won't be granted they have already had the delay, i don't think the judge will like the request to much, PM needs to step up or step out, these guys always think they can slither out of anything.
Tuff chit PM, explanation pending!!!!
Yah that's his game shorting everything, he shows up is very bad red day.
You have a very good point, that would also kill the royalty, PM would have too pay every year, However the cost would be very high, 10 billion at least, so what the worth of HCMC what ever somebody is willing to pay?
The buy out option could be cheaper over the long run, they would own all the patents in there library, But i would still want 4.00 a share for my shares.....lololol....hahahahah
I have time maybe get some shares much cheaper, very real they kick the can down the road, There attorneys are very good to don't forget. Also Institutions own 75% of all PM outstanding shares.
Pm does not write there own destiny with 75% of shares being owned by hedge funds, all (HCMC) WOULD HAVE TO DO IS GAIN PROXY VOTING RIGHTS TO THOSE SHARES, and we could buy out PM ....that be a kick in the head...but they could agree to pay the hedge funds a fee of percentage for the proxy voting rights.
Just a prospect since PM is at a little disadvantage in percent control????
celz: now that is funny,.....lololhahahaha
FEEL THE SAME WAY, at best they are guilty of insider trading last time i check it was against the law to trade on inside information, that includes court action HCMC inriching themself's by awarding them selves billions of shares i am fairly sure red flags will be poping up at government offices.
why insult people then, I am here the same as you to make money, people can't help themselves always finding fault on another!!!