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Yep that's right, PM already stepped in the chit admiring that 3% is on HCMC patent, what's enough to be over ruled on the dismissal pm filed for, they are toast so HCMC owns 3% of all monies made to date, and 3% of all future sales.
Agree, I am waiting my price, will hold tell then, yah it could go down more but that would let us cut the average down.
HCMC: WISH I could say the same to you, but simply you are wrong, this is no "PUMP AND DUMP" must be thinking about a stock with no volume pump and dump!!!!
Cat Dog,
Is right just wait and see, he knows what's going to happen along with the rest of us longs, hard core still here, all weak players are shaken out...only a matter of time!!!!
After this is over pm will revolve around HCMC 1.7 to 3 billion settlement would be about right for HCMC.....LOLOL......HAHAHA
We see how true that is in a few days, no idea no CLUE!!!!
What rock did you roll out from under, you are nothing more than a short trying to bring the stock down and scare people into selling. Now chance I am selling any of my 5 million!!!....loser
This fails on so many levels, on just a RS, how about winning a settlement and using 500 million dollars to buy back shares or even pm buying HCMC out, common man get real there are many ways this stock will move. Just a fact filled press release would move it.
Thanks bro,
Just a waiting game, time will tell????
100% Agree,
PM is between a rock and a hard place, News wise they have already taken a beating on social media over all this. Twitter blows up all the time and other sites too.
Honestly i do not see this going to trial either they would be very bad idea for PM. They have no chance at trial and the other side knows it. They will want this to go away, but like you pointed out there biggest product 24% of there whole sales volume is without Patent.
The simple fact HCMC has not come out with sees and desist order is they don't want to play hard ball until PM does. But every day goes bye they PM are digging a bigger hole.
hold our shares and wait for the good word glty
I'm with you bro,
i own a few million myself and really not worried short term only buying more cheapies at these prices. Pre-market buys are 20 to 1 buy orders One sell order same thing today as last few weeks.
Honestly i don't see this not breaking out soon, shares have dried up shorts are not selling anything much, at some point manipulation will have to stop??
This has a feeling if it keeps selling shares, and if the OS stays the same why is the PPS not raising???....very strange what does everyone else think about how odd this all looks?
i have been try to figuer this out past couple weeks you fella's have any ideas as too why the float is considered soldout it has to be by now??
No Matter,
Who is right or wrong, but in the end it turns out ok for share holders, i hate to see this many holders disapoint.
Yes I will hold my own opinion always have, the 35 billion was hypathitical, like you said nobody knows what the outcome will be. The conjecture on these site runs wild at times, but I like to think I am reasonable in my thought on HCMC outcome gl
Yah bro,
Frigging court BS takes huge amounts of time nothing happens very fast in these court deals hang loss bro, we are in a great spot right now!!!!
Agree,
They are already saying that very thing, but we know better down here at this PPS only hard core traders are still in this stock and have not sold and will not until they get there price.
We just have to wait awhile be vigil pay attention relax and wait it out, and all will be great for us i believe. Nobody can change my mind on this stock i am in for the long play, no matter how long it takes.
That is just me, other will have other ideas but this is always my own opinion on what i truly believe!!!!
No Bro,
Not yet when he does it will show on the web site what action was taken, i suspect it will be a few more days???
HCMC: I am always reading comments here, and plain fact is some making comments, don't have a fucking clue. But I'm no lawyer???...well you sure are acting like you are!!!
If this goes to court the people will decide the damages, nobody else not me you or the judge. Clearly hcmc owns the patent and PM does not!!!...those are facts.
Since you are clearly out of your mind when posting here, maybe you can call a doctor and get help?...you need it really bad, and i will help you find a number for that????.....no body said anything about equal footing on money please get your facts in order.
HCMC has not yet stated to PM to stop selling our patented Product, they have simple asked to be compensated at this time. Which PM has not done, and contenue to sell hcmc product patent.
AGREE: PM is asking for it big time, there is not 12 people going to side with PM they are pure poison. I think it's funny PM thinks they can go to court and win, people hate big tobacco, emagin punitive damages alone would approach 25 billion dollars, by trial, the Gerry will side with the little guy HCMC, there lawyers are not stupid they would not have taken the case if they thought for one second they could not win.
Only problem we could be talking a few years, but here is the problem should they elect to go down the trial road as time goes by the price gets bigger.
I am very surprised they are headed this way, they are very smart people on defense, so what do they see we do not? Stalling time????....every day goes by price tag gets bigger....ball is in pm court settle it, or face the Gerry, once Gerry starts it will become a bridge to far for PM. They could loss 35 billion dollars or more leaving it up too the Gerry..........big mistake!!!!!
Mindless chatter here most times this is a huge waiting game and many are hoping for a fast outcome which will not happen. all the U/TUBE BS is pretty crazy people talking a dollar, they have not even broken a penny much less a dollar now of in the future. 300 billion shares???
This slug will never go anyplace with that many shares out, can it move to a penny or two yes i think very easy!!!!...a dime only on a settlement in HCMC Favor is very possible but that is about max out is my take.
PM knows what they are doing having been down this road many times They could buy HCMC 100 times over and fluse the rest down the toilet they could buy them take all the patents sell off the rest done deal!!!...people better wake up to whats real!!!!!
Will the judge rule today or we still have to wait? does anyone know? been away a few days, maybe this slug will move on positive news???....
Nice hope he sees the inside of a prison cell very soon, how dirty to steal investors money like that. They should throw the book at him!!!!
yep thats not chump change,
For anyone laying out that kind of scratch they have to be in the know on this thing, we little guys are not privy to the info these whales have. Maybe thats why they are whales and we are not?
Guy asked me earlier for a link to info?...bro i read everything and just try to figuer it out no links no nothing, i don't say it if i did not believe what i'm saying i don't post alot but when i do its not two words and that is it..
I have a few millions shares but they will not be seeing the light of day for at least an couple years. I did my dd and have chosen to ow HCMC. This is not a game to me talking BS i mean what i say about this stock possible getting much better.
Over time i think its a winner, but hell know the fuck knows for sure in a penny stock.????.....invest at your own risk and don't fucking cry if it goes south!!!!
HCMC should they settle for the 1.7 and one billion royalties i think that gives us 10 cents a share on 500 million dollars buyback???....with 1.1 still left to hcmc coffers.
They are talking today depends on what PM has to offer, 1.7 billion cash and royalties should get the job done say a nice cool billion a year royalty would not be unreasonable???
Agree,
Should they get some money PM could keep right on selling HCMC product, lets not kid ourselves here, HCMC will win the settlement thats the way it should end up??...royalties would be very awsome but i don't see PM going that way, i think they would buy the company out right and they do have the money for that.
I would not mind seeing a pm use there stock to buy out HCMC or maybe a cash and stock deal would work, we know pm hired that top natch M&A guy few months back was in the 8k filing.
But we sit day after day watching billions of shares being sold at record pace, somebody knows something to buy 10 million block shares on the order desk. Hold your shares and wait, one morning we will wake up either a settement is done or the company is sold, one of those two things will happen or they will go to court and we all know how that will end HCMC Winning per the jury!!!!
ohh i Agree with that, lets hope calm heads prevail in this settlement??
Agree,
I think the same thing we are long off from something happening, PM knows the game and they know a settlement is the only smart play. 1/4 of there income is at steak right now, HCMC could have played much harder hard ball by saying to PM stop selling the product.
so, they have elected not to do that yet!!!...giving PM a way out was a very smart move. This is only my personal opinion, and should not be viewed as anything else.
The short shares have slowed to a smaller clip, my thinking is they simply can not find the shares and would not be smart to over buy on margin and credit. However the MMs are still covering for them.
That will end soon, when the dollar becomes more to them than what the shorts can pay witch is almost nothing, i i expect a shift in PPS being able to move much better, but we will have to see how that pans out. glta longs on the board!!!!
I understood it to mean every day EOD they had to account for short shares, this is a very good thing for us little guys, now mms can't play all the little pigmy games with short shares in other words they will be exposed, if they want to print shares out of thin air, they will have too show and pay up.
Should be a great day to trade Hcmc
Agree, maybe not selling patents along with is not in the cards but there are many ways they could go about agreeing, PM has the money HCMC does not, but HCMC owns the patents and PM needs an agreement to contenue selling on the 24% income by PM, now Pm has paid 3 billion to move this product, so would it not make since that 3 billion should be a stating point for HCMC??.
We know already PM has 1.7 billion in cash, so maybe 1.7B Plus a little fee for use of patents over say 50 years 1 billion a year would not be to unreasonable and would make HCMC A power house moving forward and everyone gets a part of the pie, i would be happy with 0.1000 a share for my millions as i am sure many others would agree.
Its not like we are asking for the moon here just a fair deal everyone can live with, just a few thoughts all BS but just the same, a deal should be coming this summer would be very nice. glty
That is positive news should be very exciting for the company, 85% reduction in pain after one year is pretty awsome news, be fun to watch reports come out positive!!!
O.0200 WOULD BE AWSOME: start for a breakout, i think you are right never know when it will happen breakout, but it will happen sooner or latter!!!
That is not peanuts over Million a month, there is much room for improvement over the next couple years, i have not been so focused on law suites but the under laying company itself has a chance to make good.
If they win the suite or agree to disagree with PM would be the best outcome for all. But i did not buy this company on legal issues. The stock is well known and headed for better income in the future worth a gamble !% of my money to find out in two three years!!!
1.7 billion sounds like 50% including use of patents.
Wait and see, we will wake up one morning to the deal is done, if they are talking they want to get it resolved, PM will pay a realistic price to use the patents, HCMC will except if the price helps the company,
Good morning bro, let's buy them up float has to be non existent already of pretty thin shares left I think they are gone already.
Yep, it is a big board stock after HCMC gets done with PM trying to steal there property already 24% of PM income. They are still selling product witch opens Pm up to punitive damages. They will have to pay HCMC forever too use property, or PM can always buy them out 1.7 billion they already have on a credit trench they have already secured. Just a matter of time, I will sell my millions 1.00 a share would be a deal.....lolol....hahaha
Got that right bro, been high volume for weeks, getting closer to the 15th judge comes with his ruling watch HCMC take off like a rocket on positive news....the leg up is coming, kick back and watch the fire works.
I do Agree, been a nasty down tern but headed back up I'm thinking!!!!
5 cents maximum short term 10. max Long term say one year all these pie in the sky valuations are unrealistic at best. i would be very happy with 3 cents on my investment do we get too a nickle? I think not, but if the company was bought out who knows????