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"Finally, going over the hill and highway and crashing into the Pentagon right at the wall/ground interface is nearly impossible for even a small slow single engine airplane and no way for a 757. Maybe the best pilot in the world could accomplish that but not these unskilled "terrorists"."
I heard this on C-SPAN the weekend after 9-11. Three retired Air Force aviators now flying 757's stated that they are not sure they could perform the maneuvers at the pentagon. How could someone who had never flown one do it???
Shermann
Hopefully, $hit floats all the way to the top.
Abramoff
Iraq War
Valerie Plame
Justice Lawyers
Tom Delay
Duke Cunningham
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and so many more!!!!
Shermann
You will have a real hard time proving that Iran is the #1 state sponsor of terrorism.
Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, and Egypt jump to mind pretty quickly.
Our covert operations in Iran are by our own definition sponsoring terrorism.
Shermann
Or the USS LIberty, or the Maine ... Most people are not strong on US History and how things have happened in the past.
Shermann
I can pretty much guarantee that the Senate will not pass this bill with a next fall withdrawal clause.
Shermann
I have got a whopping 15,000 at .008 so far!!!!
With Ameritrade.
Shermann
Yeah - Yeah.
And God really did tell GW to invade Iraq!!!
And Al Gore invented the Internet!!!
Genetically modified foods are being taken very seriously by the European Union and Asia.
We need to look a lot closer to the impact here. It is called research, and the FDA is being extremely lax. This should require the same safeguards that are required for Pharmaceuticals.
Shermann
Who is your Broker????
I am trying to get a little for .008 from Ameritrade.
Shermann
You are absolutely correct about that one.
Iran is a lot more powerful miltarily than Iraq, and has a population of 75 million versus 25 million.
This makes Iraq look like peanuts, and will really tick off china, Russia, and India who have multi-billion dollar contracts for oil / Arms with Iran.
Shermann
My first thought was the same as yours.
We will use it as a first excuse for military action against Iran.
I hope people are smarter than that, and saner minds prevail.
Shermann
HON. RON PAUL OF TEXAS
Before the U.S. House of Representatives - March 20, 2007
The $124 billion supplemental appropriation is a good bill to oppose. I am pleased that many of my colleagues will join me in voting against this measure.
If one is unhappy with our progress in Iraq after four years of war, voting to de-fund the war makes sense. If one is unhappy with the manner in which we went to war, without a constitutional declaration, voting no makes equally good sense.
Voting no also makes the legitimate point that the Constitution does not authorize Congress to direct the management of any military operation-- the president clearly enjoys this authority as Commander in Chief.
But Congress just as clearly is responsible for making policy, by debating and declaring war, raising and equipping armies, funding military operations, and ending conflicts that do not serve our national interests.
Congress failed to meet its responsibilities four years ago, unconstitutionally transferring its explicit war power to the executive branch. Even though the administration started the subsequent pre-emptive war in Iraq, Congress bears the greatest responsibility for its lack of courage in fulfilling its duties. Since then Congress has obediently provided the funds and troops required to pursue this illegitimate war.
We won’t solve the problems in Iraq until we confront our failed policy of foreign interventionism. This latest appropriation does nothing to solve our dilemma. Micromanaging the war while continuing to fund it won’t help our troops.
Here’s a new approach: Congress should admit its mistake and repeal the authority wrongfully given to the executive branch in 2002. Repeal the congressional sanction and disavow presidential discretion in starting wars. Then start bringing our troops home.
If anyone charges that this approach does not support the troops, take a poll. Find out how reservists, guardsmen, and their families--many on their second or third tour in Iraq--feel about it.
The constant refrain that bringing our troops home would demonstrate a lack of support for them must be one of the most amazing distortions ever foisted on the American public. We’re so concerned about saving face, but whose face are we saving? A sensible policy would save American lives and follow the rules laid out for Congress in the Constitution—and avoid wars that have no purpose.
The claim that it’s unpatriotic to oppose spending more money in Iraq must be laid to rest as fraudulent.
We should pass a resolution that expresses congressional opposition to any more undeclared, unconstitutional, unnecessary, pre-emptive wars. We should be building a consensus for the future that makes it easier to end our current troubles in Iraq.
It’s amazing to me that this Congress is more intimidated by political propagandists and special interests than the American electorate, who sent a loud, clear message about the war in November. The large majority of Americans now want us out of Iraq.
Our leaders cannot grasp the tragic consequence of our policies toward Iraq for the past 25 years. It’s time we woke them up.
We are still by far the greatest military power on earth. But since we stubbornly refuse to understand the nature of our foes, we are literally defeating ourselves.
In 2004, bin Laden stated that Al Qaeda’s goal was to bankrupt the United States. His second in command, Zawahari, is quoted as saying that the 9/11 attack would cause Americans to, “come and fight the war personally on our sand where they are within rifle range.”
Sadly, we are playing into their hands. This $124 billion appropriation is only part of the nearly $1 trillion in military spending for this year’s budget alone. We should be concerned about the coming bankruptcy and the crisis facing the U.S. dollar.
We have totally failed to adapt to modern warfare. We’re dealing with a small, nearly invisible enemy--an enemy without a country, a government, an army, a navy, an air force, or missiles. Yet our enemy is armed with suicidal determination, and motivated by our meddling in their regional affairs, to destroy us.
And as we bleed financially, our men and women in Iraq die needlessly while the injured swell Walter Reed hospital. Our government systematically undermines the Constitution and the liberties it’s supposed to protect-- for which it is claimed our soldiers are dying in faraway places.
Only with the complicity of Congress have we become a nation of pre-emptive war, secret military tribunals, torture, rejection of habeas corpus, warrantless searches, undue government secrecy, extraordinary renditions, and uncontrollable spying on the American people. The greatest danger we face is ourselves: what we are doing in the name of providing security for a people made fearful by distortions of facts. Fighting over there has nothing to do with preserving freedoms here at home. More likely the opposite is true.
Surely we can do better than this supplemental authorization. I plan to vote no.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article17384.htm
You guys crack me up.
We have no definitive proof of whose waters the 15 Soldiers were in.
I can guarantee you that Britain would not say they were in Iranian waters even if they were.
Time will tell.
Shermann
P.S. We now know definitively that the 2 Israeli soldiers were in lebanon when detained last summer - That would not be kidnapped.
The original message said "NUKE IRANIAN TERRORISTS NOW!!!!!"
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=18149747
That would be considered a radical position and all americans should object to that.
Shermann
Great Post - Looks like some people are actually getting a life!!!
Shermann
You actually believe Rush??? I thought he was just there for entertainment.
The Senate Judiciary committee (Yes all of them) issued the subpoenas - Not Patrick Leahy.
This is their constitutional job of oversight of the Federal Judges and attorneys.
The Justice Department (Gonzalez and co) can only subpoena for Criminal cases. This is not one.
If you are going to suggest something as factually false as that, please label it as entertainment.
Shermann
Great Post - This is new to me.
Shermann
FYI - I have a nibble bid in for 20,000 at .0065 through Ameritrade - I will let everyone know if it goes.
Shermann
Great Post.
I am here for the long haul also. Other than delays, I do not see where BIGN has strayed from its announced direction since Mr. Lancaster has taken over. This is a buy and hold for me. The free shares of TYEG and WWOG are just an added bonus.
We all have to remember with recent events, money has been flowing out of the pink sheet market. In addition, plenty was lost on SLJB, GBDX, and CKYS, which results in less money to reinvest. As the Pink Sheets start to come back, that will also be an added bonus.
Shermann
Let me guess - Ron Paul!!!!
He is the only candidate that fully understands what the constitution represents.
Shermann
The current geographic state of Iran is approximately 230 years old.
It is Iran - Not Persia. The Persian Empire was much larger.
Shermann
I could not have said it better.
That is exactly why he is the Presidential Candidate for me!!!
Shermann
Regardless what happens, Ron Paul will be able to add his own voice.
Maybe that is all he wants!!!
Shermann
Ron Paul is what he is - I voted for him in 1988 on the libertarian ticket.
Throw the parties out, and vote for people on their record!!!
Shermann
I have no problem there - I have read about Iran for many years.
230 years, and they have never pre-emptively invaded another country.
Shermann
He is an old time republican - Much different than now.
Either you agree with him or you dont!!!
I agree with him.
He is a great American and a Great Patriot!!!
Who cares about which party anyways.
They are pretty much the same.
Shermann
Great Post!!!
It is a bad way to put it.
We have to be aware of our veterans plight.
We are not even close to doing the right thing.
Shermann
There is another solution that only Al Gore is talking about.
Let the UN and all the other countries in the world help us rebuild Iraq so people have little things like electricity (2.2 hours a day per household), Potable water, sewer, jobs (59% unemployment rate), and of course security.
Of course, that means companies outside of the US and Iraqi's will get some of that money. C'est La Vie. This will work.
Shermann
Credibilty Problem??? - Death is rather permanent.
This leaves out Depleted Uranium which is infinitely worse.
Congress and the Admin have absolutely no credibility on these war issues.
Shermann
A look at Ron Pauls Voting Record.
1. Medicare Prescription Drug bill - Voted No - One of the worst bills ever enacted by congress.
2. Use of Military Force Against Iraq - Voted No - Kerry, Hillary, Edwards, McCain all voted yes - Why did he vote against his party??? What did he know that no-one else did??? Why could the rest of these people not figure it out??? He has voted no on Iraq including all funding bills.
3. Votes yes on all abortion issues - This violates his tenet that it is a states responsibility which makes these votes unacceptable. I favor Roe v. Wade on a practical basis, and disagree with Ron Paul on this one. Voted for the Partial Birth abortion bill even though it did not take the mothers health into consideration. He knows that the supreme court will overrule it making it a waste of the congresses time.
4. Bushes Energy Bill - Voted No - It was a waste of the governments money.
5. Electronic Surveillance Modernization Act - Voted no - Believes that warrants are needed.
6. USA Patriot Act of 2001 - Voted No - And No on all the re-authorization acts.
7. Stem Cell Research Act of 2007 - Voted No - Believes the govt should not be funding stem cell research.
8. Same Sex Marriage Resolution - Voted No - Believes that the federal govt should not be involved in determining who should be able to get married. It is a states Issue.
9. Flag Burning Amendment - Voted No - People have a first amendment right to burn the flag.
10. CAFTA Implementation Bill - Voted No - Not a believer in Free Trade - Just Fair Trade.
11. U.S.-Singapore Free Trade Agreement Implementation Act - Voted No - See Above
12. China Trade Relations bill - Voted No - See above.
This is just a start, but some very important votes here. I agree with 11 out of 12.
Shermann
A look at Ron Pauls Voting Record.
1. Medicare Prescription Drug bill - Voted No - One of the worst bills ever enacted by congress.
2. Use of Military Force Against Iraq - Voted No - Kerry, Hillary, Edwards, McCain all voted yes - Why did he vote against his party??? What did he know that no-one else did??? Why could the rest of these people not figure it out??? He has voted no on Iraq including all funding bills.
3. Votes yes on all abortion issues - This violates his tenet that it is a states responsibility which makes these votes unacceptable. I favor Roe v. Wade on a practical basis, and disagree with Ron Paul on this one. Voted for the Partial Birth abortion bill even though it did not take the mothers health into consideration. He knows that the supreme court will overrule it making it a waste of the congresses time.
4. Bushes Energy Bill - Voted No - It was a waste of the governments money.
5. Electronic Surveillance Modernization Act - Voted no - Believes that warrants are needed.
6. USA Patriot Act of 2001 - Voted No - And No on all the re-authorization acts.
7. Stem Cell Research Act of 2007 - Voted No - Believes the govt should not be funding stem cell research.
8. Same Sex Marriage Resolution - Voted No - Believes that the federal govt should not be involved in determining who should be able to get married. It is a states Issue.
9. Flag Burning Amendment - Voted No - People have a first amendment right to burn the flag.
10. CAFTA Implementation Bill - Voted No - Not a believer in Free Trade - Just Fair Trade.
11. U.S.-Singapore Free Trade Agreement Implementation Act - Voted No - See Above
12. China Trade Relations bill - Voted No - See above.
This is just a start, but some very important votes here. I agree with 11 out of 12.
Shermann
OT - A look at Ron Pauls Voting Record.
1. Medicare Prescription Drug bill - Voted No - One of the worst bills ever enacted by congress.
2. Use of Military Force Against Iraq - Voted No - Kerry, Hillary, Edwards, McCain all voted yes - Why did he vote against his party??? What did he know that no-one else did??? Why could the rest of these people not figure it out??? He has voted no on Iraq including all funding bills.
3. Votes yes on all abortion issues - This violates his tenet that it is a states responsibility which makes these votes unacceptable. I favor Roe v. Wade on a practical basis, and disagree with Ron Paul on this one. Voted for the Partial Birth abortion bill even though it did not take the mothers health into consideration. He knows that the supreme court will overrule it making it a waste of the congresses time.
4. Bushes Energy Bill - Voted No - It was a waste of the governments money.
5. Electronic Surveillance Modernization Act - Voted no - Believes that warrants are needed.
6. USA Patriot Act of 2001 - Voted No - And No on all the re-authorization acts.
7. Stem Cell Research Act of 2007 - Voted No - Believes the govt should not be funding stem cell research.
8. Same Sex Marriage Resolution - Voted No - Believes that the federal govt should not be involved in determining who should be able to get married. It is a states Issue.
9. Flag Burning Amendment - Voted No - People have a first amendment right to burn the flag.
10. CAFTA Implementation Bill - Voted No - Not a believer in Free Trade - Just Fair Trade.
11. U.S.-Singapore Free Trade Agreement Implementation Act - Voted No - See Above
12. China Trade Relations bill - Voted No - See above.
This is just a start, but some very important votes here. I agree with 11 out of 12.
Shermann
A look at Ron Pauls Voting Record.
1. Medicare Prescription Drug bill - Voted No - One of the worst bills ever enacted by congress.
2. Use of Military Force Against Iraq - Voted No - Kerry, Hillary, Edwards, McCain all voted yes - Why did he vote against his party??? What did he know that no-one else did??? Why could the rest of these people not figure it out??? He has voted no on Iraq including all funding bills.
3. Votes yes on all abortion issues - This violates his tenet that it is a states responsibility which makes these votes unacceptable. I favor Roe v. Wade on a practical basis, and disagree with Ron Paul on this one. Voted for the Partial Birth abortion bill even though it did not take the mothers health into consideration. He knows that the supreme court will overrule it making it a waste of the congresses time.
4. Bushes Energy Bill - Voted No - It was a waste of the governments money.
5. Electronic Surveillance Modernization Act - Voted no - Believes that warrants are needed.
6. USA Patriot Act of 2001 - Voted No - And No on all the re-authorization acts.
7. Stem Cell Research Act of 2007 - Voted No - Believes the govt should not be funding stem cell research.
8. Same Sex Marriage Resolution - Voted No - Believes that the federal govt should not be involved in determining who should be able to get married. It is a states Issue.
9. Flag Burning Amendment - Voted No - People have a first amendment right to burn the flag.
10. CAFTA Implementation Bill - Voted No - Not a believer in Free Trade - Just Fair Trade.
11. U.S.-Singapore Free Trade Agreement Implementation Act - Voted No - See Above
12. China Trade Relations bill - Voted No - See above.
This is just a start, but some very important votes here. I agree with 11 out of 12.
Shermann
Peace is Patriotic!!!!
"There is no way to peace. Peace is the way" - Gandhi
"Blessed are the peacemakers ..." - Jesus
"It is hard to achieve peace when we are killing each others children" - Jimmy Carter
"An eye for an eye will make the whole world blind" - Gandhi
Shermann
Bush says he doesnt thing about him (Bin Laden) much - That says it all!!!
The war on terror is a red herring. When they close the borders down to illegals, and inspect more than 5% of our shipping containers, I will believe they are serious.
Shermann
Unfortunately I am referring to Pelosi on this one.
The Cheney Cabal is far more evil.
Check where Nancy Pelosi gets her money from.
Shermann
My recommendation to the US troops is to take shovels with them.
Osama has been dead for years.
Shermann
That is an ironic statement.
Our founding fathers formed this govt (under penalty of death) by opposing having a govt imposed on us.
The constitution says we are not supposed to do that to other countries.
Go Figure!!!
Shermann
I am not sure Pelosi could win a game of Tiddly Winks with her kids.
This has been all political about the war.
What ever happened to the Minimum Wage Bill in the first 100 hours. It needs conference committee approval, and seems to have been forgotten. It is a slam dunk. Why is it not done???
Shermann
Support the troops while they are there, and forget about them after they come home seems to be the motto.
I hold both parties responsible for this.
Shermann
I think the dems were playing politics when they took the Iran provision out of the Iraq/Afghanistan appropriations bill. Instead they put in a bunch of pork to buy votes. And they say we should withdraw from Iraq next fall right before the elections - Totally political, and they have no authority to say when we should withdraw - That is an executive branch decision - They can cut the funds if they want!!!
The Iran provision is within their purview, and should be a seperate bill. But once again, congress abrogates its constitutional authority to declare war. This time the dems.
Iran has not demonstrated they want to develop a nuke, have the ability to develop a nuke in the next 5 years, or would even think about using a nuke.
Shermann