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for the life of me i don't know what all the talking about preferred and common shares do except pass the time while we are all in purgatory.
I see this morning the Morgan Stanley profits are good. I interesting that we concern ourselves about China subsidies to their industry when we do the same here with the banks. If you had held bank shares instead of shares in the twins you most definitely be in the green.
This looks like a government chart. What is FHAF?
Agree, guess it doesn't bode well poking the courts about the lengthy justice system as they are an internal part of the club of lawyers. Just like doctors in medical field, no one trips up anybody else in their line of work.
Who are they protecting from stockholder by hold and censoring the documents. There is a huge injustice flying out in the open in your face and shielding criminal activities and what is your recourse?
Years and years of argument, tons of cash spent, damages in loss of confidence in the judicial system and government, loss of personal property and basically loss of rights granted under the constitution and bill of rights.
Oh they may say it not so as look at the progress in court. Hell people have and may yet die before they see justice. Where is the swift justice? Not even close.
Who knows for sure or cares. Time is money too. Everywhere I look the judicial system drags it feet protecting criminals. Criminals have more protection then honest law biding citizens. crazy
Yea, hot seat but justice is long in coming. Where is the justice in that.
When the government is getting all the profits and ignore that they hold the bag is one thing but are they so naive not to know that hedge funds aren't going to dive into the twins when the warrants and sweep isn't officially over. The government has to know they are worth more on the exchange. Why drag it out if capital is what your trying to achieve. Crazy. Has to be early this year. However nothing is impeding the markets from making new highs. With the twins just how high can they go. Just so crazy.
on 12-12-2019 There was a case in fourth circuit court of appeals over presidents Trumps's business and the emoluments clause. There where interesting statements made by judges on rights to those owning stock weather your president or not. Legal types most likely listened to it. Me thinks there is something in it for us holding shares of the twins. Hold strong.
True, you got the stealing correct but got the attempt wrong. The banks still have them where they want them. They are still trading derivatives the like of CDSs and CDOs. Thats what the banks wanted all along and it will be hell to pay to get them out of investment banking on MBS.
Yep, right up there with the impeachment only a whole lot longer. This is all about the big picture. People not caring thinking it's not my money so why should I care and the whole time having other people managing their retirement account. Unknowingly naive and not the least bit wiser.
Probable the only issue that been bipartisan is the conservatorship and over the cash the twins produce. They both want it. So crazy quite and strange that no one has politicizes the conservatorship and weld it as a weapon on the other.
Just thinking about that this most likely rise by double digit dollars for several days in a row. Some analyst will write a conclusion as to the value and bam, up double digits day after day. I remember one that climbed by multiple triple digit dollars for several days
Thinking a lot of people are padding their pockets and have been for a long time. Money going out to counties and returning as laundered money to private pockets. There must be money in politics other addition to expected pay grade. Thinking we should rethink the system as I am questioning the whole greater good thing. I don't think Bloomberg has a chance and look at the money he is spending on running. What is that about.
I would suggest a self fulfilling prophecy as any down turn would be cause for panic in an era of it is all about me. With looming debt we got enough issues.
people are not having trouble selling their home. They are having trouble finding them where there are any to their liking on sell. Haven't seen any new starts like the days before the housing bust. No where close.
"just compensation" What's fair for the goose is fair for the gander. I would think you calculate what the government to date felt like what was "just compensation" and use that as a model. Interesting enough is the government way was to take profits forever. I am not an accountant or pretend that I know that the twins received real cash on loan and still have a problem with that.
Why can't this do nothing congress pass the TRACE ACT to stop all these robocalls. Thinking of canceling my land line but need it as do not pass out cell number. Call the phone company and they say they can't do anything about it. Asked as to why I don't get those calls between 9pm and 9am and they say it because it is illegal. With a fair share of those calls from fraudsters, thieves or crooks what part of that message rings true. Just mentioning this because if they can't handle this then what are they going to do about housing reform.
Yes it they give them up they wouldn't have any need for them other then securitizing MBS and we be back to business of old.
I think him and his gang already should have the Guinness world record for cleanups. They sure took the twins to the cleaners.
Well when your children inherit your brokerage account all the attributes of the share follow, so it is a recognizable condition. As far as takings with the government it started with a conservatorship and transition to more like a deceiver-ship. The whole check is in the mail so we haven't harmed anybody seems to be a little long in the tooth. These companies can, should, and you think will for all reasons be released, capitalized, and listed without any continuing continuances on property. That why people bought shares over more then a decade. There should be more separation of politics and justice. There is so much at stake here and it not all about the money.
I have wonder for years why the conservatorship has not been kicked up the the supreme court as there is a lot of two wrongs make a right in the governments role in the conservative ship. I don't know why we argue over them when the conserve part is missing.
Housing and Affordability from last month playing again. Sweeney in stopping the NWS would do much on all the story telling. One main take away is the twins can not retain capital if it goes to the Treasury. The obvious is the government doesn't save money they spend it. Congressional types have different agendas. Stopping the NWS goes a long way to solving a big problem like the conservatorship into a smaller one. Compartmentalizing each part of our issues will be more doable. How do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time.Then we can address the warrants or at lease remove any doubt on their future viability so investors will feel more holders of value.
I didn't see any purchased at Fannie Mae site. That was the only column empty.
Are you talking about clearing up as to if common or MBS? The maturity dates I saw where all over the map like 4,5,6 and so on years. One thing for certain they started purchasing just over two years ago and adding cash like gang busters. Not in like a hedge fund or other big purchases but way out of my neighborhood. Not bad for a school out there asking for levies.
This is one school and there are a bunch out there. They most likely look at each others data that is open to the public and who knows.
You are the expert as I have limited knowledge of those things. I am betting you correct as the snap shot of whatever my son in law had showed purchase and maturity dates. Puzzled over the ticker symbol. It looked like a screen shot and told me I could google it as BOE agenda for the nov 18th. There was a date of Oct 2019. I saved the image off but can not seem to load it here. I also find it odd that the school leverages so much risk. Am I mistaken that it reads they are secure in their protection by federal agencies.
More like 42.5% since the other investment in in multi family living development. just saying.
So did you look at some of those other investments. They did list Fannie under their OTC ticker. They talked of CDs and others but at least one is a bank and a private investment only by indentation the other most likely a MUNI
How crazy. Nobody with a lick of sense would rent and no own at these rates. Oh well, guess you have to have lived it. They need to look at loaning historical data. They don't know if they are looking at a gift horse in the mouth.
Well I stumbled across and interesting financial report of Westerville Ohio Board of Education. They have over 32% investment risk in FNMA. In the millions. That's my daughters school district for her children. Some what comforting but scary too. I would have to say they have faith in their investment. Maybe we aren't so crazy after all . ;>)
I feel that way too with the exception that some of it might cause crazy irrational financial designs. There is such a thing as self fulfilling prophecy. I am sure there would be surprises and scary stuff in them. On the other hand not illuminating us too the truth keeps us suspicious. Conspiracy theories will always loom.
Little by little we get there. I just don't know for sure who is responsible for the pace. The market and economy keeps growing but we need even more with the huge looming debt plus all the other issues looming such as student loans, social security, medicare, and shortages in pension and FDIC. A whole lot could be fixed by letting the economy run free. A tax plan that would allow median to low incomes to have more of their meaningful income to be used for health care and housing would help too. Me thought that was one of the issues Trump ran on. A tax break not only return pride to those lower classes allowing them to help themselves but it would stimulate the economy even more and generate more revenue for the government. Why can't the ones holding hostage the economy see this.
Trump doing a rope a dope.
Agree, but why cherry pick. ;>)
Yep, that's Mark talk. Blowing his horn as over sight of two money producing machines, Keep you eyes and hands on the wheel Mark otherwise they just might take off on their own. Must be a burden raking in cash of companies that have been profitable since inception with the exception of when the government took them over saying they are need of help. He is so excited at interviews. Too much coffee and sugar.
Sounds to me Mark is bucking for a cushy job at the banks as he seems to be working for them by capitalizing the twins to the moon. He like alway throws out numbers like a ticker tape parade.
He is so full of himself and his self importance. He is all over the map. One minute they will be capitalized in a couple of years the next IPO could make it much earlier. With warrants still looming I don't see how he is going to sucker more investors. Wouldn't it work just as well if he removed the warrants and released the twins. Investors would take care of the rest. That just shows how much faith he has in the investors. Anyway he is on the dole, so what motivation does him have to move on.