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I must be missing something as this COVID-19 is not new but last years SARS-CoV-2. Many people may have had it and most likely have some immunity or at worst get a mild case. The rename by WHO world health organization does not make it as scary as the public reaction. Not good for older people with health issues or young of the same. To bad they can not be testing for those who fell victim last fall with the rapid tests so that those people don't live in fear and isolation. A lot like the Russian and impeachment regurgitation by media and liberals. Going to destroy the economy at any cost. The CDC knew it was here and uses China as escape goats instead of getting blood serum test kits that can detect late markers on people who didn't run to the hospital when sick to get tested. After all why would you go to the hospital that sick with people sick with other things. Just be making it worst for yourself and others. Now all health resources are over taxed. How crazy is that.
So we have no business going to the moon or Mars. We knew this was coming and next year or the year after it could be a black plague sort of thing kill half the population and destroying our economy. I was sick last fall and it was the worse. Couldn't catch my wind and and it lasted three weeks. Could not do anything that called for exertion. You would think I could get a test for antibodies and information as to if those would assist in making and infection less severe and not dyeing from COVID-19. I am 65 with type 2, hypertension, and atrial fib history. These new strains are the nuclear bombs of tomorrow. My daughter's family needs my help and I am feeling selfish as I am staying away. Her husband's sister fell and is a candidate for organ donation and she needs help with 6 mth and 2.5 yr old. Understanding that these people are traveling to Cleveland Ohio were only confirmed tested cases abound and at a hospital to boot, that leaves me concerned as people get symptoms in about five days after contact. Problem is no one knows who is infected.
The ever down market is a concern but with the economic impact this virus is having, are we going to revisit another housing failure too? It seems early but again people don't save money to weather economic storms. Shouldn't be because bad loans, but living beyond your means and not saving.
Could be an attack. China has more unemployed with no job or marriage prospects.They could use fewer numbers. Could use them in conventional war but that costs money. To unlease the virus in own country prior to their holiday to include visitors would remove obvious intent. A lot medicines are made there. Maybe they are testing for something less benign. Sure is a wake up call and a test for biological attack.
Crazy government talks about an IPO when the infusion could happen at these crazy low interest rates coming to a neighborhood near you. My parents are turning in their grave over these crazy rates. Crazy to rent when owning is this easy. The real message is greedy government is like a dog walking a log with a bone in it's mouth and sees it's image in the water, opens mouth to get that bone, and now has no bone at all. Hope they see clear to this analogy and not waste the opportunity. Family and friends are ask me and telling me their concerns on the market. I tell them it is irrational fear and they should consider moving money and consider buys and prices. Even had one who just open an account with TDAmeritrade. Me thinks this is the adjustment before the huge take off.
This should be a wake up call that we need to bring business back as we don't need cheap stuff when you consider all the total real cost to us.
Yea, sure, the conservatorship doesn't play into the socialist agenda. ???
Hum, just how low will this go. So early as there is so many more people to get sick and much more economic impact. Wonder should I do some serious cost averaging in the future or just let those in government that insist on hold this money machine carry it into the ground. I got now till that price comes around.
No doubt more will get sick but it will end, unfortunately this is just the beginning. Fear is creating a self full filling prophecy but and opportunity too. Interest rates should get to new lows for housing purchases, home refinancing, low fuel costs, and not to mention buying opportunities. My daughter said to me Dad I am freaking out and you aren't ranting about it. I told her don't you remember me telling you to think about what you do in the event of a market turnaround. That was a month ago. Now you panic because the house isn't smoldering but burning down. Maybe you should think about rebuilding or say think about when buy and get your monies in order. Don't buy into selling but when to buy and what.
When he does you can bank on him canceling all shares and break them up and sell as parts.
Government types shouldn't be allowed to open their mouths unless providing factual information, as anything else is just them controlling the narrative by use of their official title which people rely on, and give themselves opportunities to trade on volatility and enriching themselves.
Like to be a fly on several walls as this market tanks. Panic is what it is and does not change anything. A vaccine requires a lot of testing and if this crash is about COVID-19 then this could be a concern for the government as the twins are on their books. They can say well we knew we needed to be there to catch them but someone gonna ask where is all the money taken from profits of these giants. Thinking about all those multi living when the cut backs start. You know there are people being called to the floor for what ifs. The debt of the twins added to present day will make for an interest payment maybe just out of reach and it going to get interesting. Again the banks are not keeping up with falling 10 and 30 yr bonds.
Banks should be contacting existing mortgages owners that where good risk in housing market bust and offer free refinance to them to keep them on their books. Otherwise they are free agents so to speak.
If you feel it has more down side then play it that way, play short, otherwise...
I like the upside possibilities.
This much horse Shlt there must be a pony in here.
You are good shape and more greedy then me. ;>)
Welcome to the pound ;>)
The coronavirus may not be as harmful to markets today scaremongers but is a tool for those who use crisis for personal gain. What I do know is there are millionaires and billionaires in Russia and other social economies. I don't know how we can go to socialize economy with the debt we carry with the promises being made for all the free stuff and loan forgiveness. Being a world currency going to socialism could cause a shit storm and all the money made in sell could be a self full-filling prophecy and all you would have in the end is a bunch of useless paper. I believe Trump will be around for a second term but what then. Better preparation for such a turn of events would be more prudent. I keep my shares and buy ammunition and weapons to protect family and food sources. You Can't eat silver or gold and you would most likely be separated from it early anyway.
Very funny but you know your a sick puppy, also factual true.
Seeking Alpha jumped on the crisis band wagon saying the future does not bode well for common share holders. Nothing like using media and crisis to cause volatility in stock.
If the court's choices enrich the company's and get the legal mess out of the way the quicker the twins will be capitalized and the sooner we benefit. It will also play a role in release and items keep by the government. Big enough issue and complicated sorting it out. How do you eat an elephant? Good news on the release and I mean total would help the market as then they can be seriously considered for listing on big board. Even the congressional types since 1983 have retirement monies in market. Why would they cut their noses off despite their face.
Just might be something here as it has Waters all worked up saying Trump has less integrity then the Crips and Bloods. Unbelievable.
As always, never waste a crisis. Me, I gonna hold.
Yep, super negative FICO score if rated by credit agencies.
Sounds crazy good. What that means for common, I am not sure till I see action.
On and on over this sort of stuff and it is obvious to any that knows the business and the connection the twins have with the government. The government will always be obligated to step in as they are the ones to loan and profit on the MBS. The twins only securitize them into packages to be bought. So much about nothing. What a crock of BS. Must note it is the same for the banks and the government will step in there too as it there is history to support all this. Guess these people who talk like this want us to believe they just fell off the turnip truck (new borns). Where is the justice.
All the rhetoric is just a stall and most likely waiting on courts and thinking about how they can get more monies for their purposes. Housing is blossoming and no need for more housing reform. Housing reform is all about opening the door to risk like prior to housing bust. I heard a conversation about a new build purchase that fell through and that someone else was able to purchase that house at a discount. Said house was loaded with options. Said because of interest rate he could afford it as he was paying that much in rent. It made me think about purchases prior to housing bust how taxes rose due to vase development and the need for more schools, streets, sewer, water, police, fire and more for public services. Remember how some experienced financial hardships due to the unrealized addition costs.
Just keep on thinking like that and you will find yourself cry and hating yourself. There is no stock out there like the twins. They have history, they are fundamentally ingrained in our economic and government lending system, they are power house money machines, they where private in sorts with the backing of the government, the government shouldn't and don't want them on their books, they are long past ready to leave the longest conservatorship in history. Technicals, you got to be kidding! Thanks for the laugh!
Imagine what the twins will do for 401s and the market place. Release before election would help Trump but would also boost everyone having retirement accounts. if they don'y have them in their account they will have as they are must haves.
I wouldn't think Trump would need to campaign much and the pressure on releasing the twins narrative may help. I don't know if we need any housing reform as those getting loans can pay them and it doesn't seem to impart on the books of the twins. However holding them hostage and using those funds and not paying for that personal property may work against Trump as it is a socialist agenda in itself. The treasury has taken more then they loaned at an unpractical rate. The treasury should return over payment to capitalize the twins and they should void warrants and release them so they may return to the market. That will provide a secure return for investors and retirements. Money movement is where it's at, so lets get moving.
That got me a laugh, Wished I thought of that!
So much for that separation of powers stuff.
What interesting to me is how the government is going to explain their hand in the cookie jar and keeping all the cash and not recapitalizing the twins in the event of a symmetrical economic failure. I am thinking they don't care and feel they can do as they please and as to date that is just what they are doing despite the courts. Maybe the courts should start thinking about themselves as to how they are going to account for their foot dragging and total lack a attentiveness of the whole mess. Laughable if it wasn't so sad and scary.
sort of the same with me except when she went back to court to give joint custody it didn't work out as she thought it would. She thought she was controlling the outcome. It would be refreshing if it worked out as with your two scenarios, but the court will most likely collaborate with the government as the judge most likely has higher aspirations. All the judges I have had to deal with are self serving first.
Theme today is nobody is above the law. We are withesses!
What does this mean? How does this help us?
Excuses for holding the twins captive no longer holds water. I even know a couple who applied for construction loan an was rejected. I like them as friends but history with them tells me it was a wise choice. With good loans being made makes the twins stronger. Pushing back release is trick of government but what side. Most likely both. Markets climbing and future infrastructure spending on the increase those are two of the important legs of GDP and will help on debt. Why in the world would you hold them hostage unless your one of the sides of government that would cause a down turn in market thinking if we own the twins, all would be fine. Who thinks like that? Think about it. Free money to pay for campaign promises of free health care and educational loan forgiveness. I would hate to think of how that would change my world for the better.
Get what now? What is the significance of this filing? So many rules, so many filings. Is there an organization above the law?
Alert ! Breaking news! FHFA is rearranging and moving furniture. Oh brother!
Of course, it been such a rushed job. Damm good thing I live on the first floor as the jump could hurt me but instead i wake with a face full of snow. Nothing like a snow job.
regardless if you consider monies paid back to government or not the earnings per share I believe are great. The price just doesn't reflect it as we are in a hostage situation.