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In direct conversation with ex employees. Depending on location size..Around 3 years to cover the equipment and install. Not confirm fact but told they installed several locations with the TCA money..
Mr Gator, do you see any difference now Josh is supposedly in charge? Like his trainer Alex, his mouth is controls by the TCA contract Alex signed.
Mr Wick could tell you much better than I could..
The upside to the zero cost, cash flow starts as soon as the installation is completed. That continues till the contract ends. Are is renewed. At some point the equipment is paid for. After that it’s all positive cash flow..Mr Wick knows it’s a good deal. The problem has been management and their ability to raise capital from a real lender and not from lender like TCA. If anyone has a better solution, please post it. Im sure Josh reads these post
I didn’t say Josh was in on the imo self serving deals, Alex and Byron did to give them selfs 160 million shares for NAUP. Imo If Josh is smart enough to now manage ZNGY. Why stay in when it was clear what was happing.
If shareholders complaints don’t get the SEC attention, believe this, a call from a senator or congressman office
Will get their attention. Mr Wick imo has put time and effort into trying to help us. I just don’t go along with every
Post wait another week, month and we all heard read those kind of post. So far I’m not at all impressed with Josh silence.
At this stage, it seems the only one who’s able to get any information good or bad is Mr Wick. It’s your choice to believe or not believe, but don’t make it a personal attack on another shareholder. My personal
Opinion..Josh was there all during Alex and Byron scam days. If he had any credibility he would have resign..Even Byron saw what Alex was doing and bailed out. Gave back some of his shares, but guess who got
Then.,ALEX. File complaints on Alex with the SEC in Ft Worth. Call your Congress or Senator office, tell them
The SEC needs to look into Alex and Byron and TCA dealings. This will get the SEC attention
Imo Mr. Wick is trying to get as much information as he can from Josh..Took the time to meet where told with
Byron. Imo again Mr Wick is like a lot of us, a possible big bag holder who’s hoping to make some money on his
Investment. Like some of you, I believe some of his post read like a pump. Good news is coming for over a year,, is old news.
Mr Wick, imo Josh is in the same position as Alex, except with out the millions of shares, Alex and his cohort, who claims to be a Christian, Byron Young. Swindle ZNGY shareholders out of. Under TCA contract, he cannot
Put out any public notice with out TCA approval in writing..During this time Alex is trying to negotiate a settlement with TCA to release his guarantee for return of his shares, thousand he already sold. Alex belongs in
Jail. Josh is a stooge and imo, want be around long.
Gator, no business person with half a brain would have signed TCA contract.
Not only do they have full control over what ZNGY can tell the shareholders, ZNGY can not borrow any money
As long as TCA is owed any amount. Josh is in the same position as Alex was. TCA tacked on thousands of add on fees. The only out imo is file a BK and let a referee wipe TCA out of all the fees..though some won’t agree, TCA owns ZNGY now
Shareholders should flood the SEC with complaints about Alex inside NAUP deal. If Josh doesn’t get the NAUP
Deal reversed, he should resign. It was illegal and Alex is now trying to hide from it. Enough complaints will get some attention.
He worked for NAUP, One of Alex buddies
Fish is fed information by Rmhb employee to pump.
Bull I read the post and We know several people who close to Alex. My question was, Mr Wick has posted he looking for the toxic debt to soon be paid. Who’s going to pay off the notes? Other than more shares to dilute
What’s the security to loan on ?
Would you buy toxic debt when you only have to fund and own the contracts ?
That wasn’t my question.
I seriously doubt any of us bag holders like to post or read negative comments. However let’s be realistic. If TCA as Mr Wick has said, did agree to pay off imo the toxic loans, Alex and Byron used to fund some of their hi living lifestyle, why would they now all of a sudden pay the notes off ? Let’s not forget, both Alex and Byron hold a ton of preferred stock. TCA should demand they return.
Attorneys advise their clients to stay silent when they know their crooks
With Alex gone maybe Josh can get something going. Remember both Alex and Byron own a lot of stock.
We know now Byron and Alex where couple scam artist.now where supposed to believe the debt they ran up
To pay for their hi living will be repaid, with Alex gone? Dream on
Wasn’t the problem they stop funding because they didn’t have funds ?
Maybe someone, like Mr Wick can answer this? Where’s the funds to pay off the loans
Thanks Mr Wick for all your help. Guess a PR was way to much work to get out. Should be some interesting
Reading.
Does anyone believe if there was any hope Alex could make a $ out of ZNGY, he would have resigned?
It doesn’t take a brain surgeon to see there’s no way out but a BK for this company..it only sells shares and borrows money sit aside to pay salaries.
Our investors friends would like that
Sounds like you may have seen the letter
Best guess. A couple pages of denials of why he’s not the culprit who ruined the company.
Try doing your own DD
Close he pedaling a Chinese Hemp seed company. Looking for another shell
There are those that will believe anything, then there or others who do a lot of DD , as well as seek the advice of attorneys who deals with SEC law and litigation..some others who knows all the actors from Jeff Love forward..Every company has believers.
TCA track record speaks for itself. Let’s clear the air on what really happen with NAUP and Entertrade? I doubt
Would be legal if the truth comes out
The evertrade purchase was a fraud deal. Alex purchased from friends knowing it was not profitable and wasn’t
Making money. Wonder why he never tried to recover The money ??
Jon,,as all this unfolds over the next few weeks. Shareholder will find out just like DD on Alex past showed. He’s a con artist and thief. His inside deals, with Byron Young approval,,NAUP and Entertrade aloud him and Byron IMO And others. To Steal millions of shares from the company. Some he already sold. Byron and Alex used money from Loans some toxic to finance their hi flying lifestyle. It would take a very costly long drawn out lawsuit, to prove what they did to rip off shareholders. It’s possible enough letter from shareholders to the SEC might get them to investigate Alec and Byron. The 10k did not include a copy of Alex resignation letter. It also a lie stating he did not have a disagreement with the lenders, Just for the record, Josh signed off on it. Time for something we haven’t seen.,Transparency.
Where’s Gsaffi these days? Time to reconsider his Tuna Hotdog and add some CBD. Rather than flash freeze BBQ, Flash freeze CBD on a stick?
Imo Alex needs TCA written permission to release his resonation letter that ZNGY must file with the SEC. Alex has let insider know his plans, if that includes Mr Wick, all he can do is pos what he’s being told. Every one knows, Alex is a scumbag same as Byron
That was before he ran away with a ton of prefers shares like Alex has, plus a $200k note on Zngy? Both these
Clowns belong in Jail.
Some who’s seen the draft, say Alex disavowed all blame. Always worked in the best interest of the shareholders. Keep in mind his and Byron Ideas of best interest, checking out 5 star hotels, the best wines and
Foods. Buying friends non profitable business, and unloading his. All in our best interest
Alex and boy wonder Byron who tuck his A s and ran. Used the shell as their piggy bank. Once the truth comes out, what involvement Alex and Byron will have, how many shares do they own. Are they holding any notes.?
All of this Josh needs to disclose. It’s not two late to sue the two clowns for ripping off the shareholders
That’s a possibility, depends on things like, does Alex own the contracts? If TCA takes over and funds the Water
Burgers contract. ZNGY stocks a bargain. IMO worth buying a few million shares at a tic. Not trade at 2 tics.,
There two sides to every arguments..Maybe TCA saw something wasn’t going to work out.