is all out of bubble gum.....
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Why buy at 3 or 4 if you can buy 2's? Huge amount of endless shares filling bids. Could be billions of shares to fill orders at any bid including .0001. You also have to remember company appears to have printed Billion plus new shares and there are many unhappy shareholders here with billion plus shares looking to dump investment at any value as this heads to no bid as it goes dark. This is not a buying oppurtunity here....it's a last chance at selling.
Not looking good here. As shareholders are forced to believe news that repeats no revenues or substantial progress trust is falling. Low volume shows shareholders selling as pps falls filling what can be sold on market. Low ball offers on the bid leaving little chance for recovery from investing now. No new interest as potential investors do basic DD to find people behind the scenes here have already sold the gold mine share selling deal here once before and have a checkered past destroying shareholder value. Current CFO is in contempt of court and has destroyed shareholder value as CEO over at sister company QEDN. Much DD here needed on core of who is making decisions here behind the scenes. Buyer beware.
How much more dilution will sell into the market today? Average sale Monday .0002 50+ Million shares sold was low volume day..... oh no. Volume down 80-90% and printing 52 week low. Buyer beware. This ticker is a shaded deal ran by known scammers with a proven past. DD here needed to be done yourself as many around providing speculation as facts. Fact is CEO has destroyed share value here from over a penny to now one click from the bottom. She is in contempt of court and is not providing records as ordered. One record obtained shows CEO using company funds for daily expenses and vacation and punch in the eye was monies were from sale of shares on back door deal to partner. Huge judgement ordered and appeal lost with refusing payment agreement and not paying others which may force this to no trade via forced bankruptcy. Court order now in effect as emergency freeze on share printing to protect potential shareholders. Billions of shares issued recently without exact known total. Buyer beware.
How many more shares here dumped?
How many more do you think are out there to be dumped?
Do we have 100% count?
The mistake you are making is that you are using common sense and a bit of math. This ticker was never disigned for anyone to do either as a shareholder and trying to give a lesson in either over a chat forum on the internet if could be done is where I would invest heavily.
Painted out of end of day loss. Par for the course with QEDN. Operates the same way over at sister company GEGI usually but that crew ran out of beer money today.
You know what else they did not address? Kate and Ray and Mike... How do you punch that down into the charts?
LOL ... When volume increases price dercreases here. It is not the case of someone wanting to buy so demand happens it is selling and PPS goes to what market will allow or they can stomach in losses.
Put a bid in for 1 Billion 2's and they will fill and Kate will love you.
2's are nothing but future tax deduction when this goes dark.
So desperate here to sell shares 2's has become the deal. OMG how many do you think they have printed and are here before judge ordered to stop....why did he order that again? Think of all the poor shareholder who bought this well over a penny. You think they are averaging down or trying to sell all possible before this goes to no bid and then dark forever? If they would have only planted as many seeds as they sold shares this would be worth a nickel.
News out....lol. Same old same old news. How doe s this help GEGI shareholders?
Qedn a company once worth over a penny a share now trading low low trips due to lies,manipulation and most important massive amounts of share printing dilution. Green Mine Solutions which is Kates company abandoned and forgotten now is recieving millions of dollars...lol. You believe this? You buy here based on what?
Green Mine Solutions LOL is Kate's company.....well make believe company. They still must have shares to sell. Anyone know 100% how many new shares were printed before Judge ordered this share printing machine down.
Lower lows. Much going on here and clock is ticking.
International wires?
Green mine solutions is an USA company. Why an international wire? I wonder where it is registered and if it is current.
QEDN owns Green Mine Solutions. I knew I read it somewhere.
Here it is https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=132324009
5th image down copied from OTCMarkets.com
Shows qedn share agreement Green M&A Solutions which owns 100% Green Mine solutions.
So looks like since Kate and Ray own QEDN. if payment was made to Green Mine Solutions what was it for? Wouldn't it be just money movement(laundering fed if over 10k). Green Mine Solutions is shown on this document to be owned by US registered company owned by Qedn which then makes it potentially an international offense.....securities fraud part of rico act? Pretty sure.
Where are these revenues coming from and when?
I meant to send this message private....Sorry for your loss is what I meant
OUCH. That made me cringe.
Holy cow these 2's are selling like hotcakes. Is there unlimited 2's for sale here. Are people selling 3's and 4's sold earlier this week that now realize they were the flip? Well at least the old bagholders got bailed out. The good enws is the PR released says they are planting cocoa in the place of ichy nuts. Colombia is known for its quality merchandise. Maybe they can get Tony Montana to become CEO or at least spokes person.
Volume is big and PPS hits trips.
Looks like others discovering what's behind the scenes.
OMG.... The truth is out and market responds.
"Substitute Coca leaves for Sachs Inchi"
Now this is all making sense..... getting the seeds mixed up with the coke. Priceless.
The truth comes out in the end...lol
Green Mine Solutions is QEDN or Kate's company right? Isn't she the CEO of both? She paid herself from the QEDN business account from shares of stock to herself at Green Mine Solutions is what I understand from records. You would think with the history she had there she wouldn't want to associate herself or Qedn with this I guess what else are you going to release.... inca seeds are Found to "add something amazing" and testing trials are in the works.
Lol
That is awesome as I hope that is true for investors. Truth is I think only some current shareholders believe that as PPS reflects. I hope they hit the mother load and make al investors wealthy including me.
I do. I bought in a bunch down there for an awesome flip. Im glad I sold the majority of those before I figured out what was going on here. Never denied being an investor or making money and currently a shareholder. DD for me did change. I was looking at the surface and playing the market. I considered buying in really deep here and QEDN started falling apart so I really dug deep and did not like what I found. I share much of that DD with others as it can be tricky to find for the average investor.
I believe you are right but what do you do about it? I imagine that is why Juan is listed as "acting" CEO as he has not been voted into this position? Does that make Kate "acting" CFO? Who knows and those who do know seem to keep others that want to know out of the know. I fear we will never know the truth once this goes dark once again.
Without the ability to sell shares how do you propose GEGI and QEDN settle Lattuca suit and other debt? I see a forced bankruptcy in the future here.
I just can't see how this ends well for shareholders.
Holy cow.... what's going on here. Where is this massive run and why is this printing .0002-.0003.
Was that 1 billion+ shares sold at .0004 and under. Where those the freshly printed ones or bagholders prayers being answered?
Where is everyone?
Crickets
Many have made profits here but that does not mean this is a good investment now or a good company.
I believe the idea that people question information provided to investors to be 100% of value. If data provided can not be verified, that should be verifiable, then what good is it? How can you invest on bad data? What if some of the people involved in daily operations have been found to have been not trustworthy? What if same people have been involved in failed attempts multiple times with same concept. What if same people have been found in contempt and guilty in court of fraud in same concept. What if it was same ticker with same people over and over? To not question or ask for verification would be wreckless investing.
I am a shareholder here among many and deserve answers from officers of this company.
I'm confused. Please help.
I am a shareholder here and have every right to question this company regardless.
Juan is the "acting CEO" as listed on official otc market site and Kate is not listed as acting but simply CFO. So is Juan really going to be CEO here.
DEFINITION of 'Interim CEO' A person appointed by a company's board of directors to assume the role of chief executive officer during a time of transition or as the result of the sudden departure of the company's previous CEO.
Honestly not sure if Juan has been a CEO before or understands what one does exactly but has me asking for more inflation and availability. Because he is the acting CEO makes me question how long he will be here?
But I understand
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That’s how you play the game my friend.
I also can not find any documentation. I have tried reaching out to companies that they claim partnership with and can not get verification. I can't even get a response from the CEO? I guess the thought here is because this ticker here became current once again that it must be all clear and everything released here is 100% correct without needing verification? I feel completely the opposite. You still have the same behind the scenes person Ray and now have another Kate that comes from a questionable past and present that have both been involved in epic gold mine share holder failures. How does that saying go? Fool me once shame on you...Fool me twice shame on me? Wouldn't we be the fools here to not want verification here?
Why is the "acting" CEO creditials held so high and then the CFO Kate and partner Ray not to be discussed or counted here?
I think information about the CFO(Kate) and partner Ray is absolutely valuable DD. Given the fact that Kate has already been involved with a gold mining operation that is very similar before and was a total failure for investors is important. Juan as "acting CEO" ok as his credentials are incredible. Kate as CFO....now here is where this starts coming apart. Why Kate? Her past is not important as a factor here. How about her present? Contempt of court....Qedn CEO failure? So we are OK with Juan because his past is good but please don't judge Kate to the same standard? Throw in Ray Purdon here behind the scenes and you have an interesting group here. Check out his creditials...wow. I find it odd that how the discussion of facts is debated with grammar and spelling errors. I guess you use what you have even if it is nothing. Hell I guess the CFO uses the excuse English is not her first language so if press releases have errors not an issue but for god sakes if someone types on Internet forum with phone has errors god have no mercy.
Lol
Lol...we will see. My guess is dissapointed shareholders as history repeats itself. Here is my thoughts and opinion here. In the beginning you could bank on 10-15% spike in pps just on anticipation of revenue and then count on the same dip after Q's hit as investors were disappointed. Now after Q after Q with same hope and have acquired millions and millions of dollars in debt without the revenue to continue operations without adding debt thru dilution does anyone really believe this is the Q that will yet alone break even or produce true profits? What about repaying debt?
Surna suffers from lack of motivation in leadership. Leadership changes are clockwork and execs are paid good wages and awarded stock for mediocre performance at best. At this point I believe people at Surna are comfortable and if this don't work out it's OK they will just do something else. By far my best single ride here was buying at the bottom when 4-5's printed and selling into the 20's within a year. Since then Buying the dips and selling into the run by far has proved for me to be very profitable compared to holding long. I love the story of how this came all together in the beginning with big tech money and small Texas entrepreneurs were going to revolutionize the weed growing business. Absolutely was in love here. After CEO after CEO after CEO and CFO's etc I have lost track on management count. I sense the fire here to be nothing more than a confortable flame as day to day business is conducted. I am grateful for this revenue stream and wish all here invested the best.
Good reading and awesome DD. Kate was already in the gold mine business and that company was a huge failure for shareholders. Looks like the same deal here. If not for having a court order restricting the issue of shares GEGI would probably suffer same fate. Interesting. I find it sad that these same people are able to do this over and over again without having to answer to anyone. Even if found guilty the fines are minimal compared to the amount of revenue generated selling shares. You have to ask yourself what kind of person can sleep at night doing this and to what extent what else would they do to generate income. Lies, manipulation, false documents, pretend relationships all become second nature to a con artist. Kate and Ray are partners here. Both have such a checkered past how can they be trusted?
Best of luck to all but honestly can not see any future here. Even if the "gold mines" produced unreal revenue could you really expect it to be reported. This deal is in one of the most known corrupted parts of the world Colombia with behind the scenes you have two known very questionable characters. My guess is no way. This is going to end with shareholder failure as history repeats once again.
You holding here>? My charting shows headed down 11-12. I wont be back in until bottom forms 11 low or below maybe more. Hope I am wrong but only way I have made any money here last few years is buying dips and selling into the run. Longs have had roller coaster ride. As I get older I can't take the down hill thrill any longer.
How long does it take to get gold out of the ground? 5 Years or did they give up on that one and now digging new hole now for gold? Looks like they dug a big hole over there for investors and then left them in it. Hmmm. You think they would do that again? Sure looks like it.
Good find
I really could care less about Lattuca other than the effect he is having here controlling both companies share structure and then the growing judgement is a concern. My main concern is more with Kate and Ray. Ray is a known scam man with a long history of destroying share holder value at any expense for his personal gains. Ray is directly involved with Qedn and Gegi. As CEO, Kate appears to follow the same path as she has destroyed shareholder value and denied involvement with Ray. She in contempt of court and has been caught in a series of not true statements. One of the only true statements I have seen come out of Qedn camp was the bank statement that showed CEO plundering monies from the dilution of stock.
I would guess no way we will see Q3 financials and if we do will they show what we already know? Can they be trusted? I Don't know how Kate runs both Qedn and Gegi. Maybe she should focus on one or the other as what is going on know is not working out for shareholders at either company. I really try to give her the benefit of doubt but she just proves each time to fail us shareholders.
Truth be known I think Ray is running the show here and Kate is his puppet. Given Rays history how can one believe this is nothing other than a scam?
Exactly proves my point. You have a handful of investors manipulating the price here to keep the pps out of the trips. I don't like game. In this case bought from personal account as stated to make client accounts not show daily loss is clearly an ethical issue and more than likely a violation of sec policy if a trading professional as one claims. I have had the finger pointed at me more than once stating I was pushing this down via small trades but that is not correct. 100% only buy/sell to make profits or control losses and never regardless of what my screen name states have I shorted a stock.
That is- Just the facts - when it comes to the OTC. Yeah thank you.
Why is the price going back down? What is happening here?
You think this flip flop is over already or is it dilution of massive amount of shares selling at bid>?
Could be the Kate and Ray curse?
Lawsuits? Settlement?
CEO contempt of court?
Ideas?
I hope they dont release anymore news about gold mines or this will be in the trips. Pretty obvious no one believes projections or can see any future value either. Let's see if we can get someone to paint this up $10-$20 by the end of day so we can feel better about owning shares here.
Yeah GO GEGI
Not new at all but appreciate the offer. Problem here is company could go to no trade as in legal issues and facing forced bankruptcy. Out of desperation increased ask another 1.5 Billion a few weeks back and may have done so again and issued shares before court order was effect. Could have couple BILLION new shares selling into the market while this goes dark.