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I'm afraid I agree with you. The older I get the more I realize how much I don't know, so maybe the bracelet path will pay off for Torvec, somehow. It is part of safe driving so I guess it isn't entirely separate from everything Torvec has done.
The competition on this new path is intense. There are a bunch of startup companies with bracelets for kids that do all kinds of things. Many are simple phones and all have trackers, but some connect to interactive games. Here's one that makes any object into something that makes music or sound effects. This isn't a field of slackers or companies that aren't offering products very similar to the proposed Torvec bracelet. Hope it works, but I really thought one of the existing, patented, Torvec inventions would be on an assembly line by now. Apple seems comfortable with stealing a patent when they want to, but they also buy up companies, apps, etc. Let's hope Torvec has a nice, patented, idea or strap that would work with the new Apple watch AND tie all of it into Apple's serious effort to own the auto dashboard/car.
http://www.chipchick.com/2015/02/moff-smartwatch.html
It looks like fun. Kind of like the TRex 3 wheeler from a Canadian company, but those go for $25 to even $60K. No performance numbers. Seems like you could swap a high performance motorcycle engine in place of what looks like the engine from a Smart car. Tiny though. They might want to add some width to the front of the body as well as height. People look right at motorcycles and drive right thru them because it is smaller than everything else on the road. Many fewer turns in front of dump trucks, but some manage.
If I had planned my investments better the last 12 years, I could be one of the 35K pre orders and modify the thing as much as I wanted.
2 questions. what is your lowest estimate on the stock price and is there a point on the downside that you would buy more? I'm shell-shocked by 20.9 so I have no idea. I guess we could see teens and then single digits for this mess before something real happens.
Averaging this investment becomes easier and easier, but I think I might have passed my limit for any more investment. Even at a bargain price. If that is what it is.
Yes, it worked out great for Torvec in the end, but it is too bad that tech didn't progress more. Considering the fact that we never heard from the inventor or anyone else since then, I'm not sure what was gained from paying Torvec a million just to leave them.
I always wondered how they managed to change the polarity of the ice without an electrical grid of some kind on the surface or in the windshield layers. The inventor and the college research claimed it would work on aircraft wings leading edges and even tires, but no real work prototypes for that as far as I can tell.
Right now I'd settle for one Torvec patent going into production. It can be a bracelet or a flowerpot, whatever gets the company out of testing and R&D and into a retail product with an O.E.M.
My foggy memory was that is was a technology from Russian or Eastern European that was looking for a commercial application. The college research had produced a small glass demo panel that instantly shed ice when the polarity of the ice molecules was changed with an electrical pulse. Torvec was going to be the distributor or final developer of the tech for a full sized windshield. I think they got as far as a test windshield, but then the inventor wanted a better deal or he wasn't happy with the progress or the windshield was not practical as far as cost and durability or something. There was never a public explanation of why it all went south, only that the inventor went away. At least Torvec seemed to somehow make some development money on the deal, but it was a Vanguard rocket as far as a breakthrough product for Torvec. If you were a boomer child and watched the Navy's first attempt to launch Explorer I, you remember the spectacular 'launch.'
I'm tempted to buy some at this price to offset my earlier insanity. Gee if it only goes to a dollar, which used to be the bottom, it's a triple, but I'm just worn out at this point. Keep in mind the fact that this is a dilemma for me and I'm choosing to pass, THAT should guarantee spectacular headlines before Christmas. The best way I can help all of us is to watch and do nothing.
Yet there is a bigger buy than usual and someone from the company actually bought stock. If Wesley Clark leaves the board I'll have to rethink.
I'm on the side of show me results, but maybe this theory would answer your question. The ISO was used in several race cars for at least two different race teams. I think the last season I'm aware of was in a late model Corvette where it was subjected to all that Heinchy and Watkins Glen could throw at it. Most were impressed by how well it worked including losing drivers. I was at one of the Watkins Glen races and it really gave that Corvette an edge over other Vettes.
Maybe the reason the ISO isn't working as well in O.E.M. tests is the 'high load test' where the engine is redlined and the clutch is dropped. The shock of that vs a more gradual load of accelerating for a race might be the difference.
Just a theory. I know it did work for a couple of racing seasons where it was part of winning results. Not sure of the specifics of O.E.M. testing, but they are touting this for high horsepower Cameros, Corvettes, etc. Drag racing, dropped clutches and 500+ horsepower would be part of that. I wonder if the problem is something inherent in the design or the alloys used to make the unit? No doubt there is a solution, but given the situation I guess it is a case of where will the payoff happen first? Maybe it is a case of more development money, self funding for marketing and liability for the ISO vs interest and need for a Torvec solution in the heavy equipment industry.
I'd love a real contract/royalty agreement with an O.E.M., but at this point any kind of announcement that says Torvec has an agreement with a company that can't be named for a project that can't be described, would be fantastic. EOM
I suppose like most things it would have more problems than people realize. Seems like it does some things, like deep snow, really well. They do have a site up that is tracking and taking orders for customers with $25,000 to spend on the system. So maybe it's better than that bolt on, triangular, track system that has been around for years, or maybe it is worse, but they seem to be ready to sell them. I want to take the tiniest glimmer of hope in the fact that someone, somewhere is selling something radically different.
$25,000 seems like a LOT. On the other hand if I lived in Watertown, NY I might view the whole thing differently.
While we wait and wait, here is a link that is interesting for fans of the FTV. It isn't meant to be more than that. All the back and forth, ups and downs of this stock are history. Useless to add to a list of things you can't change now. I hope for something real, different and positive today and tomorrow.
I think this system would be spectacular when it fails. Like a too tight turn or really sticky mud. There must be a reason they have a safety chain from the driver's side front unit to the frame of the truck. On the other hand the versatility and ease of conversion are great. Thought some would enjoy the video.
http://trucktracks.com/en/
It is hard to keep track of the new designs, redesigns, etc. I just hope that the differential and pump are being reworked because of specific OEM requirements. Sometime after announcing that the differential was ready for the aftermarket last September, someone realized GM would require a stronger differential that could withstand 200 full power, burn outs. I hope that new standard came from GM, but even if it did not, at least the latest diff can meet corporate stress standards.
I spoke to John Heinricy after the meeting. Right now he is involved with some kind of racing program that uses the Chevy Sonic. I guess it races against the Fiat 500, Mini, etc. Apparently it has too much horsepower for it's rivals, so they have to run a restricter plate. He likes it, but said of all the cars he has experience driving, the Corvette was his favorite car to race. Given that the Iso-Torque enabled him to better his times on most tracks, by a second or two, I can see why he enjoyed running the Corvette they raced at Watkins Glen. One of his rivals bought that car. It would be interesting to know what/how he did with it, if he did actually buy it. I don't think the Torvec diff was part of that sale. Anyway, here is a link to the Sonic racer - http://media.gm.com/content/media/us/en/chevrolet/news.detail.html/content/Pages/news/us/en/2011/Oct/1031_sonicsuper4.html
As far as I could tell the only stress failure was the Iso-Torque. The full power, dropped clutch, impact tests 'blew up' one of the test differentials. Then they focused on finding the weak gear, which they did, then they redesigned that area and now they are ready to present data and production ready differentials that will be sold to the aftermarket by the end of this year. That differential will meet GM standards for the impact test which was 200 repeated, full power, burn outs. This development problem was the reason Torvec rescheduled their meeting with Hyundai, according to Torvec. Maybe by the time they actually meet with Hyundai they will have front wheel drive version of the Iso-Torque that will work with automatic transmission fluid instead of the thicker differential fluid.
So, I don't think the pump failed. In fact a newer, better version has new patents pending. They can't hand over a pump for OEM testing till the patents are correct. That is an OEM requirement and an obvious protection for Torvec.
Maybe you are right anyway. Maybe dealing with the Chinese will end up being a problem instead of an opportunity. There are many things that could sink the whole idea. DK did make the most insightful comment I've heard in many years of meetings. Torvec has been a struggling engineering R&D company for at least 10 years, and should not have issued stock because it was years away from having anything ready to sell. On the other hand they are in a position to present a pump that CAT, DEERE, etc. are seriously considering. Who knows if Torvec will be able to sell that pump at a good profit or if they will ever be able to offer OEMs a smaller, better, differential for front wheel drive? 2 of the Torvec engineers I spoke to at the meeting feel Torvec has never had the personnel, testing hardware/software, and multi-generational prototypes they have now. That was a different attitude than in past years. Perhaps the DK organizational changes will move Torvec forward.
This investment is a long way from where I want it to be, so I'll hold on and hope, but there are at least a couple of things that could revive the entire company. There is a very short summary of the stockholder meeting at http://www.torvec.com/
The engineers at Torvec certainly respect Thomas J. Labus. I am happy that a board member is bringing big value to Torvec, not just in day to day expertise, but current, ongoing, industry contacts that might actually buy something someday. As good as this contact is, the OEMs will not touch a Torvec pump until all patents are in place. The basic design was protected years ago, but there are some new revisions and principles that are pending.
Good analysis. I think you are correct. I was thinking the same thing about the new investment and stock price moves. There could be some kind of speculation run up, but I don't see any news events that would make that happen. IF the Iso-Torque Road Racer starts to get a lot of media coverage, maybe people outside of the Corvette clubs will get excited, but that won't be till the end of this year.
They seemed confident they will be selling 250 robust Iso-Torques for C5/6 Vettes and Cameros by the end of this year. Sometime before July of next year they expect to have an improved pump and new patents in place for an even better pump. After patents are secure, OEMs will review. If that works, production potential might pop in 2015 or later. That is what I understand as far as a timeline to the pot of gold.
The engineer I spoke to after the meeting was happy that a new, more extensive, testing procedure is in place. New tools, the pump test stand, and a new process to improve things internally at Torvec. I guess they can now present the kind of complete package OEMs expect as far as hardware and test data. I thought all of that was already happening last year, but I guess things didn't come together till the last 6 months or so.
Before the meeting I spoke to one of the engineers and he was pretty excited about how much they have accomplished in the last 6 months. Sounds like the new expert on fluid dynamics has made some key points that gave the engineers some shortcuts. Another engineer after the meeting was also excited about how much better the revised pump is compared to last year's model and that one was better than any thing in production when machinery was operating at low RPMs and lower pressures.
Kaplan was very careful to assure stockholders that he was focused on getting the company to limited production for the Iso-Torque by the end of this year and a new pump with new patents ready for O.E.M. testing by the end of 2014. The Iso-Torque needed a time out for a redesign that beefed up it's ability to survive high impact, high rev, popped clutch, drag racing abuse. When the stronger Iso-Torque is sold, it will be the 'Torvec Iso-Torque Road Racer.' All the racing prototypes were stressed by high horsepower racing Corvettes, but they weren't dropping the clutch on 750+ drag racers. 250 units will be produced by end of year.
So I guess the pump is better now, with an even better version in the computer. The Iso-Torque is ready or close to Chevy's standard of 200 full power impact tests.
Kaplan was confident he would find the funding for another round of investment capital. Although this would result in some additional dilution of stock, in 5 years he was confident that if things worked like they seem to be developing, that would not matter to current stockholders.
They rescheduled the Hyundai meeting last December because the Iso-Torque was failing the high impact testing and they didn't want to present till it was ready. The coal mining machine refurbishing company has a Torvec differential, but because of the recent lack of coal production, has not had one machine to rebuild since receiving the prototype differential. I heard that at least one coal company in Somerset County, PA has stopped loading their ocean barge in Baltimore till the price per ton goes up. That's all I remember right now. EOM
Second THAT. Adds nothing to anything, but himself.
Yes, it was mentioned at the shareholders meeting. As I recall the calendar listing of meetings and events concluded with a trip to Hyundai's California headquarters in December 2012. It was presented as more than another tour type of event. I can't remember if they said there was testing of an Iso-Torque for Hyundai or not.
I'm trying to focus on things I can affect and just hope that one day I'll log in and see a bunch of messages about a significant turn upward for Torvec stockholders. I'd muse on how much potential there could be with Hyundai, but I agree that having zero expectations is a lot healthier. Waiting for results. EOM
LOL, Yeah, every achievement STARTS with an idea and a dream and then things can go down many different roads. Sometimes it works out just fine and other times not so much. Like Tesla and Edison. I know what I want for Christmas this year. EOM
Merry Christmas fellow optimists. After this journey, if you are still here, you are made of stern stuff. I hope we see some good news in the next 3 weeks from Hyundai or elsewhere. It would be a real boost as we all deal with the new/old economy.
Meanwhile, I ran across this item and although it seems super sketchy, there are enough gearheads here who will be interested in a 'revolutionary' engine. I guess thermal efficiency, plasma energy, is the breakthrough. Not sure how that can 'power' anything for over a year, but I guess the world will find out after December 11th. Somehow I think it will be another cold fusion, or the interesting but not very efficient method of extracting hydrogen from saltwater using radio waves. http://lightworker29501.com/2012/10/25/american-kabuki-noble-gas-plasma-engine-to-revealed-at-power-gen-conference-orlando-florida-dec-11-2012/
I see a quarter page ad on page 325. Anything else?
It has become an endurance test. Don't forget DK laid out a schedule at the stockholder meeting and it seems like they have done what they said they would do, SEMA, etc. The interesting meeting will be with Hyundai next month. I think Torvec has been 'working' with Hyundai for some time. I hope that means they have tested Torvec prototypes and are ready to ship the first O.E.M. Torvec part in a production car. The press mentioned Hyundai launching a performance line with the SR label in Australia in October. http://www.autospies.com/news/Hyundai-Launching-SR-Performance-Models-72038/
I have almost zero expectation that Torvec will be in the SR models from Hyundai. We have seen a hundred things that might have been, could have worked, etc. so don't think this will happen because it should. I'm just pointing out that they are going there in December and the Iso-Torque makes a significant improvement to their hottest car. It's a glimmer of hope. There's got to be a pony in here somewhere. EOM
Well, you are right, but if things were logical it would be a different world. We rightly celebrate the life of an amazing pilot/explorer/astronaut who set a bench mark for humanity over 40 years ago and now China, that was happy at the time to avoid a famine as Armstrong stepped on the moon, will probably pass us in the next space race. Meanwhile we decide if we want to hitch a ride with the country we beat in the last race. Who would have seen all that?
Fine tuning can mean many things as we have seen. Given this team and recent events, perhaps it means small, easily fixed, things in a short period of time. If the aftermarket diffs are being sold and shipped NOW. I have to take that as a reliable indicator that a diff that works in a high powered Camero would be ready for a Hyundai. Hyundai is in a good position for the Torvec solution to their Mustang/sportscar problem.
The aftermarket Iso-Torque is almost out the door, CAT is looking for a better pump than they can make and Torvec has a different presentation now with industry verifiable computer testing. I think something great will happen sooner than 2 or 3 years, but I also can't imagine how many things will be in 2 years, given the world today. So good luck to us. EOM
'...we will be working with some very large industry leading OEM’s on pump designs specific to their needs.' I like that part.
The new gear design must be working well, which is great, but the fact that it is moving into final production for actual, retail, parts is the news we have been hoping to hear. The new team seems to be positioning Torvec for all kinds of production vehicles. What an interesting end to 2012. EOM
In 3 months or so Torvec promised to deliver aftermarket orders for the Corvette/Camero Iso-Torque. In 5 months they are supposed to have some kind of serious meeting with Hyundia at their 'headquarters.' Not sure if that means California or Korea. It would be nice if that meeting was about delivery of a production ready Iso-Torque for the Mustang beater Hyundia is trying to manufacture. If nothing else happens, perhaps the marketing of the aftermarket Iso-Torque will make the press aware of and at least a little bit excited about Torvec. I think December is also the SEMA show.
I would be surprised if an announcement big enough to jump the stock price is made before the first quarter of 2013, but it could happen. Hope and change soon. EOM.
The first 500 orders for the Corvette/Camero Iso-Torque will get a couple of hundred off the price and have their orders ship sometime this October. That's what I remember from the meeting.
Same here. The Torvec stockholder meetings are a collection of determined people. I hope we see the marathon finish line soon. I think we will and then we might know the satisfaction of things hard won.
I always thought the military was harder than it looked. Too many inside channels, too much red tape. Anyway they do have a lot of heavy equipment so I think the pump and SteerDrive will be incorporated one way or another. I think it will be through some other company like Lockheed though, not directly from Torvec. The best news for stockholders is that I don't think DK will waste too much time or money on dead ends or slow channels. At least I hope so. So far he seems like a bottom line, where's the payback, kind of guy. IMO
They asked for it. Money flow. Testing and marketing were going in a different direction, as in racing teams. They didn't need the programs you mentioned to design and build the equipment for the NASA Rover, but the Presidential inauguration was the last time the public saw that. They had stuff that worked. Heinrich's Corvette destroyed it's class at Watkins Glen. It's moot.
The past was a wild west show that achieved some remarkable things given the circumstances. It didn't really work out in many ways, but it ended up here so its all good. If DK's outline works like many think it will, hopefully you will get the chance to work at Torvec and add the new blood.
Very impressive recap. You distilled most of the Q & A.
DK explained that General Clark had planned on being there, but that some documentary was requiring him to be in California where he couldn't get a Skype connection. Who cares, but the important point was that DK did say Clark made some important introductions for Torvec. Apparently he feels the General is doing something for Torvec, which was nice to hear.
Actually they have sold 11 of the IsoTorques to 43 of the Corvette owners that turned up at the Corvette museum event. They have a series of events lined up into the fall to introduce the IsoTorque to Corvette and Camero owners. The first 500 buyers get a couple of hundred off the $1,600 something price. The last event is in Vegas or some place, with 10,000 attendees expected.
TG asked a pointed question about the total profits on selling the pump to heavy equipment OEMs. He asked in a good natured way and Kaplan responded with a good explanation of the market and the new Torvec approach. Heavy equipment manufacturers need a smaller Torvec pump or they will have to slow down all their equipment by 20%, if they use what they have. Their existing pumps are as big as they can make them without massive equipment changes. The EPA is their rock and existing tech is the hard place.
The reorganization seems to be in place and working well. A new patent process using a new patent company, should tighten up existing patents and help to detail future patents. A better process to handle funding. A tighter internal organization and what I think is essential to future sales, a complete documentation of testing results both virtual and actual. They also seem committed to being able to provide a documented cost analysis of every part and production schedule. Not only does all of this enable Torvec to go from idea to production part MUCH faster and cheaper than before, but any OEM will be able to verify results faster.
I was reminded of the Basket Road garage and the state of testing 10 years ago, as well as the slippery stone approach to finances. This is still a company with more potential than results, but the path into a CAT or Ford is much better prepared now. I wish the schedule that was shown was shorter than Q3 2013, but some aspects of it will happen by the end of this year. The aftermarket should have more results by October and Hyundai will probably have Torvec personnel on their company property before end of 2012, if things go according to plan.
Some things had to wait to fall into place. All things considered we seem to have everything we need to actually make a significant production deal on both the IsoTorque and the Pump. The new CTO is the real deal, very experienced, sharp, enthusiastic and results focused. It all seems real this time, IMO.
I had not heard about the Jihad threat. If they were thinking of using the FTVs remote control ability, they must have missed the DARPA trials. Maybe they were planning on using Russian software instead of the group Torvec was involved with. Either way it would have the shortest warranty in the automotive industry.
As far as Chicago and Chinese, it's hard to imagine a team with more built in corruption, but maybe that's on me. Here is a link, one of many, that talks about some of Daley's efforts. Now if the media were as diligent about Daley's dealings with the Chinese as they were with who Sarah Palin dated 30 years ago, we might have a story that documents the Torvec concerns.
http://www.pjstar.com/news/x1254721276/Chinese-president-to-focus-on-business-in-Chicago
BTW, I was wrong about the $30,000 'contribution' to Clinton, it was $300,000. Here is what they paid for, the instant National Park was a different bribe. That was bought by a different group from Southeast Asia to keep low sulfur coal off the market.
http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/9/29/25139.shtml
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/riady.htm
I am an idiot about some things, that's part of the reason I'm here. My schooling neglected the lesson about the difference between an investment and speculation. Unfortunately for all of us, I could be right about some things like how unbelievably craven, corrupt, greedy and nasty some of our elected officials are. That's my take on some events, I'm sure others, including the participants, would have beautiful stories that prove everything just had to be that way. EOM
NASA had a contract. I think they paid $100,000 for the redesigned IVT. Besides the PR and the money, Torvec invented and patented the 'gearpack' part of the IVT. Somewhere on this site or over at Torvec you can find out what the exact numbers were. It's interesting that you have a close inside track on the extent of Chinese industrial spying. As far as Chicago and Mayor Daley, the record of suspicious deals is kind of long, from voting questions to corruption. You could look into the 'sister' cities deal between Chicago and one of the Chinese cities. That was part of Daley's sudden desire to be the 'greenest' city. Remember that? China bought Clinton for $30,000 and suddenly they had the MIRV tech they wanted. Find the right people and it's really very cheap. Daley, Chicago, China, and green tech, connect the dots. You weren't there, but you know what everyone said.
It's all moot now. More money, more people with accomplishments so hopefully something new and real will happen soon. I know a lot of us would have given a thumbs down for the paper cup guy, don't ask, and General Clark, but I guess it seemed like a good idea at the time. Everybody has plans and all those plans get kicked around by life. I just hope Torvec as it exists now is putting together contracts with someone that will make news outside of NY. Arguing with incomplete information about past dead ends helps vent the frustration with the long wait for untried tech to pay off, but I think the Torvec people in place now are capable of using all that information as we go forward. IMO. EOM
Meeting? I'd like to believe that the delay, the postponement from the usual date, is because of a gynormus deal. Some announcement that requires a coordinated media effort. I'd like to believe that, but you know the rest.
After 10 years of crawling on broken glass with this investment, 2 ideas keep rolling around in my head lately. First, car companies have common sourced major components since the Dodge brothers, and do it today with Subaru CVTs that are also used in Nissans. The other is Apple, iTunes and 'paradigm' shifts. Steve Jobs took a company that the industry and people like Michael Dell thought would be out of business in a few years and completely changed the music industry. It started with 'the crazy ones' commercials. A campaign that made their slightly better music player a cool must have. After selling a million, Jobs was able to get record companies to sell individual tunes for .99 via iTunes. NO one in the industry, at Sony or Microsoft thought that could ever happen. Napster problems helped set them up, but Jobs gave them a 'deal' on his terms that changed their minds and business model. I hope DK has embraced that story as well as every other edge to lead us out of the wilderness. The longs are hungry. EOM
I agree with you. I would love to see a lot more information about Torvec in many different media forms. I have promoted the idea of a marketing campaign for years. Management either disputed any value in more public awareness or pointed to confidential agreements/testing/networking and for years they didn't have anything that wasn't a one off prototype. The Rover was something, but we saw what happened to NASA. I suppose if the aftermarket production does get serious there will have to be actual marketing that goes beyond press releases.
You do have to put yourself in Torvec's shoes. If the Corvette snapped the driveshaft instead of busting the IsoTorque, what do you gain by telling the world? Maybe GM would be ok with that public announcement, but I have to think everyone decided there would be no point in embarrassing a potential client. Aside from this board do you think anyone remembers that race? If they can successfully sell aftermarket units for Cameros, Corvettes and maybe Cadillacs, even you and I will forget that race. I hope they do, I hope GM,Hyundai or some other OEM announce they are going to incorporate something from Torvec, I hope the mining equipment company buys something, etc. 2011 could have been a lot better for many of us, let's hope 2012 is full of good changes for all things Torvec and those who have held on. EOM
I think you might find that the reason Heinricy could not race was because the driveshaft failed. That's what I heard at the time. Since there isn't an extensive, public record of photos/statements of the incident, your suspicion that the Iso Torque was the problem might be right. I wonder how he managed to win multiple races BEFORE that incident using the Iso Torque. He certainly was enthusiastic about it and the second place racer really wanted to run with an Iso Torque. I was there when he expressed that wish. A whole season of racing with the Iso Torque in the Nissan 350Z was documented and the only failure I recall from those races was when one of the teams used the wrong lube or disconnected the radiator. I might be wrong, but I don't think there were too many prototypes being used prior to TG. The one or two that Nissan and Phoenix Racing used, got a LOT of abuse and still finished races.
If you compare the Iso Torque with the old Torsen, they aren't that different. The inherent design is certainly robust. If, in the process of 'simplifying' and combining the Torsen to create a new, patentable, design something vital was lost, perhaps that is a problem. I just wonder what is going on now that a 600+ horsepower, racing Corvette could not expose earlier. Whatever the problem is, at least Torvec seems to have enough money and resources to solve it. I sure hope DK is correct about O.E.M.s buying into something when they do.
Critics could be right. Just trying to be optimistic. Like all of us, waiting for the day I click on Torvec or here and see a bunch of messages about a real, massive, production order. I would consider a widely promoted use of a few thousand Torvec Iso Torques in a Cadillac, Corvette or Hyundai, a massive event. Something to get the word out to the world market and the stock market. Did a quick search on Heinricy and the top site shows the Phoenix Corvette with Torvec on the nose. Last I heard he was working with Mazda or Kia on something. Anyway, this would be a way of following what he is up to - http://www.heinrocket.com/ EOM
When you replace the plumbing use PEX and post a sign or make it a really big doghouse for two Dobermans. Good luck. Mt Morris has potential.
Just visited southwestern PA and spoke to some people who are using geothermal systems. They love it. Lots of fracking activity north of Somerset county and more coal mining than I've ever seen all over Somerset county. Coal in that area is the best for steel making and is being bought, mined and shipped all over the planet for $300 a ton. I hope someone is putting some kind of Torvec tech in all that mining equipment.
I understand. It certainly has been a rough road to get here and I envy a newby buying in now. Right now I'd like to see a return to the years where $7 a share was normal. While we wait for that to happen, it sure is fun to see the rest of the world start to take notice.
Things change. Years ago NASA was measuring people for new moon suits and GM was riding high. I just hope the new leadership is hitting home runs behind the scenes. Good positions in a couple of areas, now we need the production announcements. The Hyundai car looks ready to go. IF they keep the Iso-Torque in a production model, it will shock a lot of people. I think they will, and I think someone at Ford will realize they blew it when the Hyundai outperforms the Mustang. I just hope someone at the Ford truck division is testing the heck out of a Torvec pump as the quickest, easiest, cheapest, way to get incredible improvement in gas mileage for Ford trucks. Let's hope for a merry Christmas. EOM
Nice. A public association at a major industry show in a Hyundai show car, is good news. Considering how closely Hyundai's show models/concepts are to their production cars, this is exciting. As I said a long time ago, I love Hyundai for the speed and adaptability they have shown as a car manufacturer. The only way they were able to pass Toyota was by being pragmatic about where the best technology could be found and then incorporating it faster and better than the competition. I hope this is the first of many announcements like this. EOM
Bye, buy, old dragon thing. I guess it's a new company now for all practical purposes. Glad the update/deal was finally made public. I guess the previous commercialization areas (mining and aftermarket performance direct sales) are continuing in the right direction. The lingering problem of not quite enough money seems to be solved, so now the question is do you buy more? It will be interesting to see what effect TG has on new investors and anyone shorting.
A totally off the wall guess would be a relative easy run up to 3 or 4 and then bounce around till some OEM production contract. IF a production contract happens and we start seeing random articles pop up about Torvec, then we might see what this company can do. Personally, I'm whipsawed by the global financial steamroller. Not selling anything till this plays out, but as happy as I am about the revamped Torvec, not buying any new shares either. Next to TG involvement, that's the most bullish thing that could happen for Torvec, since I usually buy something near a top. Not intentional, it just seems to work out that way. Emotions, etc. Good luck to the survivors of this cruise. EOM
Heinricy was very happy with the performance edge the Torvec Iso-Torque gave him at Watkins Glen, and every other race where he ran it in the Corvette he was driving. He knew it and the other drivers in Corvettes without it, knew it. I asked him about it between races and I talked to his closest rival when I went to the Glen.
Now what happened since, I have no idea. Is he still a fan? I would think as far as Corvettes with the Iso-Torque, yes, but how that carries over to Subarus or Mustangs, is anyone's guess. I sure would like to see Iso-Torques in something besides one SCCA Corvette. Cadillacs, Cameros, Hyundais, mining trucks, something. Or an order for pumps or a deal for pumps. Something besides more 'development.'
I guess Phoenix might get a one off Iso-Torque for that Mustang. Considering the rear axle design of the Mustang, it could certainly use it, but nice as it might be to win more SCCA races with a different car, it has been done. Even a dozen aftermarket modified Z-28 Cameros or whatever would be bigger news that another SCCA season. IMO.