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NetList is a very good, small, company, that is very much worth investing in, regardless of the Google settlement. Over the past 12 years they could have grown into a great, large, company all on their own, if not for Google's thieving, lies and arrogance. I know life isn't fair, but I'm really hoping that, this time, the court is.
From SubReddit r/NLST Today
"Posted byu/HedgeAppleJoe
Our attorneys were smiling at the end of that zoom call!!!
Our attorneys were smiling when they logged out of that Zoom call. Judge ordered discovery on the newer modules limited retroactive but full Discovery going forward. on a older modules he ordered Discovery going back and the main thing he said was that agreed with netlist that they should be able to do sales and profits Discovery retroactive back to day one! That is freaking huge. Hundreds of billions of dollars that we will get a percentage of. I would be very surprised if Google doesn't try to settle quickly."
"again I WISH i could still buy it under 10 cents.. but i have to settle for 50's now.."
When it's $10.00 a share that extra .40 odd cents you paid won't amount to even be a whisper of regret.
I would be pleasantly surprised if Google does not appeal in as slow and drawn out a manner as possible. They can't claim that even a large settlement would break them, nor can they make people believe that it wasn't willful infringement.I don't think they'd win and I don't think they think they can win. But I do think they will try to delay as long as possible.
Politics has no place on this board. There are plenty of other places for you to discuss your theories.
I really hope that's the criteria that is used.
Well hello there. For a second I thought I was on a different board when I saw your name.
Usually an insurance company won't pay if it is a willful offense.
Something to consider as well. Discovery aside, once the Google suit is done then NetList can hang a big, blinking, neon sign out that says "Abandon hope all who have infringed on our 912 patent." If Google couldn't win then there is no hope of a smaller fish winning. Why throw money into lawsuits when a smart company, that has infringed, will come wanting to settle on their own, when the dust settles?
Of course there is the premise that if they were smart they wouldn't have infringed in the first place. If that proves to be the case NLST will should have plenty of money and precedent to pursue.
Yep. As long as the company is sound, business is well managed and it continues to expand, the stock price will eventually reflect that. People who are fretting need to look at like we're all waiting for a train. It'll come, but not on your schedule.
I got here a bit later. My average price is $1.00. I'm in no way upset about that. When it is $5.00, $10.00, $15.00, or $20.00 it won't matter one bit that I didn't find it sooner. I'm not in it for quick money either. Four to five years would be no problem and even longer if the progress is still positive.
I re-assess the company occasionally and so far I've been quite satisfied with its progress. My re-assessment does NOT take into consideration the price of the stock because that is never a reliable indicator of the true health of a company.
"Patience is not simply the ability to wait - it's how we behave while we're waiting."
Joyce Meyer
"Our willingness to wait reveals the value we place on the object we're waiting for."
Charles Stanley
They kick and scream because losing this case sets a bad precedent. I'd bet every last share of NLST I own that this GOOG theft is NOT an isolated incident and with this win there is hope given to other companies that they've ripped off. It's finally time to pay the piper.
Agreed. Peanuts? Oh heck no. They're in the home stretch after more than a decade of fighting and thanks to the SK settlement they have money in the bank to finish it. The fact that the attorney took the case is a good indicator that he feels it's going to be a big settlement. Yes, he'll have his fee but the bump to his already stellar reputation will also be a big payout for him. If he only gets a mediocre settlement then that won't look nearly as good for him.
GOOG is still trying hard to gaslight the court but it's not working. If they do go to trial I doubt they have a snowball's chance in hell. It's a David vs Goliath case and, human nature being what it is, the people on the jury are going to be inclined root for David before the case is ever presented.
Agree. Money will do it. I hate to say it but we're also not going to magically be free of manipulation. It might, however, get us some more volume and it is a good step on the ladder to NASDAQ.
This is why it's so difficult.
"SEC Finally Cracking Down On Naked Short Sellers! See Why They Can't Stop It!"
It should be tomorrow, but the entire process has been slow so I am thinking next week.
The only unhappy part of my owning NetList is that I would like to own more.
On any other stock's board, if the price goes down a few cents, people start moaning and crying about doom and ruin. Here, it doesn't even warrant a mention. People just quietly buy more.
The quiet is like waiting for Christmas day, when a rich uncle has come to visit. Very good stuff is in the future.
I wonder how IQSTel is going to fit into the plan at VISA. They are already working with Tala.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/ninabambysheva/2021/05/05/visa-partners-with-fintech-startup-tala-to-drive-crypto-adoption-in-emerging-markets/?sh=360013447e49
https://stellar.org/blog/tala-visa-partner-on-solution-for-underbanked-supported-by-circle-and-stellar?locale=en
Yes, you will, and evidently none of it is based on logic or a willingness to look at the full picture. Emotional. GLTY
NASDAQ didn't become QB. QB is a logical step on the way to NASDAQ. Do you really think they're going to stop at QB? And yes, I would be surprised at a R/S. They've said it isn't in the plan and, frankly, it wouldn't do much of anything. As soon as a R\S is done for up-listing purposes people lose all trust and the share price tanks. I've seen it many times.
Why are you insistent on looking at just half the plan and spouting doom and gloom? Sell if you can't muster up the patience to stick it out.
Nice to see it confirmed again. Reassurance is welcomed. Thank you.
Nice to see you back. Particularly with news like that.
Daily interest earnings on billions aside, which would be significant to us but is lunch money to them, they might want to delay things so it falls in their Q3 or Q4 reporting. Possibly.
I think they'll wait until the last possible moment to settle simply because they're jerks who are used to getting their own way and so will be petty, just because they can.
Yes. Short sellers are probably ecstatic though. I didn't even know you could short crypto.
The bottom has fallen out of Crypto today. Their attention is elsewhere. Perhaps some will decide that IQSTEL is a little safer.
I agree. It's best to keep an open mind. I was just unable to come up with anything NetList would value that Google has, other than money. I too doubt that Hong would give up part of his company. Double that for letting Google buy it. Still, stranger things have happened.
What do they have, other than money, that NetList would want? I'm at a loss to think of anything other than damages and royalties. It's like that old "What does a fish want with a bicycle?" question. Can anyone enlighten me?
I really hope that being awarded a settlement gets us way more of a bump than this.
Apologies if this has been posted before. IQSTel shows up in a screen shot. This YouTuber is a little wordy, but he shares his research and sources, and for me, it was very enlightening.
Oh heck yeah. Release the Sheasby!
Throwing out a possibility here. It could have been a case of having those shares go to a trustworthy, long, holder, rather than releasing them to the market in general. In such a case, they would have gotten their money and the shares would have been, for practical purposes, out of circulation. Not in their vault, but almost as good.
Might it have been better to sell fewer shares on the open market when the market was high? Maybe. However, Apha Capital Anstalt, and their like, are always looking for blood in the water. I feel IQStel knows more than we do about their own operations and position, so I'm willing to trust them. There is every indication that they have nothing but the good of the company in mind.If Apha Capital Anstalt sold most of their stake after IQStel got their money then it seems like a move well played.
They said on the Ambassador's page that they "have been courted by several IBanks", if I remember the phrasing correctly. I'm certain the word "courted" was used. I may be wrong, but to me, that implies that they were approached independently. If so, more than one IBank has been watching closely and even if they didn't get the prize they may be padding their coffers with shares because they are sure it will pay for them.
It goes without saying that many on this board are pretty familiar with reporting, but in general, people need to keep in mind that this is a look backward in time. It's done and gone. Things have already changed and if management is following a well thought-out plan, as seems to be the case, then it's already changed for the better.
Oh yeah. A golden ostrich egg.
My only regret in this is that I physically don't have any more $ to invest in it. Oh well. At least I have something and won't be completely left out.
Indeed it would. I keep trying to explain to people that the SKH settlement alone makes NLST an undervalued company. Eventually, they might believe me.
It's news and every two bit "Get rich trading penny stocks" book and Internet course says to "Sell on news." Evidently said courses also tell them to check their brain at the door.
I doubt they can do it before the uplist announcement and that should have a positive impact on the share price. But if they announce it afterward then that should drive it up more. Or perhaps wait until they are almost ready for NASDAQ.
Yes indeed. When your regular supplier can't supply your company with chips then you can't build and ship product. There will be no loyalty whatsoever to suppliers who can't supply. Companies will buy chips where they can get them. Absolutely nobody needing chips will give a rodent's backside that NLST is a pink sheet stock when they can supply those chips.