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What kills me is that as a start-up company, to have so many HUGE names working with them and signing contracts with them,
saying that SGLB software is NECESSARY for their processes,
has no debt,
is working with multiple companies to produce and expand their software/hardware capabilities,
released their first product 2014
plans to release additional software in 1q2014
is attempting to put their software in printers of multiple 3d printing machine making companies
is working with government programs to become the national standard.
Wait what am I doing...im going to make money and buy more shares.
Thought the abstract data was being posted today? not some doctor getting hired...wheres the big news?
Within 5 years which is soon in investing parameters.
I think the only place we disagree, is that I believe SGLB will sign huge contracts when compared to other companies. Thats why I believe SGLB can move very high very quickly. I won't speculate on PPS or the size of the contracts but they will change everything for SGLB and the AM market. Once the tech is realized, SGLB will be unstoppable.
We are already at a valuation that is high for having almost no revenue. We will be stuck in this area until actual revenues are posted.
These investor conferences and promises are nice, but until it's proven that SGLB can make some real money, we will remain here.
Personally, I'm loading up with high expectations of multiple multi-million dollar deals signed by the end of 1H2015.
SGLB has many big name contacts with high levels of interest in their technology. Banking on the fact the AM will take off like those involved are projecting. With the value IPQA adds to AM, it seems like a great product.
Also working with the largest government project to find a standard in the AM procedure? Interesting to say the least.
With the patents held and the product has been being used and tested by the top scientists and engineers over the past 10+ years, SGLB's IPQA is obviously the leader in the industry and will be the first to market. This technology is complex and has taken years to complete. No one is close to doing what SGLB has done.
Over the next 2 years if they sign all the contracts they are talking about signing, and get 100 million in sales. 100 million running at 10x sales due to increasing AM market and need for IPQA.
Im just saying the growth will be fast. SGLB is not like any other company. They have the key to a booming market.
we all know how market cap works, what is different about SGLB is that they are talking about signing huge contracts within a very short amount of time.
This will shoot the market cap thru the roof, based on the standard 3x sales valuation, but SGLB could easily run much higher than that as the market is expanding and clearly in need of IPQA.
And since the route SGLB is taking, using other companies services to do the "work" of putting IPQA into other printers and a licensing fee, they wont have the huge overhead of production and a huge workforce.
Maybe it's you who doesnt see the market capabilities here.
It's only because the market is unaware of the product. Of course printing a liver is absolutely insane and could potentially save infinity lives over time and would be a multi billion idea.
SGLB technology is being utilized by the early adopters of Additive Manufacturing. Once the 3d printers are more readily available, and these companies begin utilizing PR3D for mass production of critical parts, we will see our $10. It will come quickly too.
We're still in the infancy of a multi billion dollar market and have yet to earn a regular revenue stream. Once that happens and the technology proves its worth, we will never see these prices again. Cherish them while they exist.
So ready for SGLB to post some revenues....but wouldnt mind if this continued for another month or so while i load up more shares. So close to blasting off.
Thinking about taking a loss in another position just to add to SGLB...These prices won't be around for long...just wish I knew when the first contract will be signed. Accumulating until then.
I was aware of that, I guess I should have been more clear.
But for SGLB market cap to be so high now pre-revenue, if they sign a contract for say 10 million, the PPS will skyrocket
and be very volatile for the market to decide if SGLB will continue running at 70x sales.
It will take time but I believe we can hit the $10 mark within 5 years if they sign the contracts they are already in communication with.
Hey stockmama, I know you're a bit of a dreamer...what do you estimate the price point on each one of those 45,000 fuel nozzles will be? Im sure GE will be spending more than chump change on these performance critical parts...With the billions in orders they have already stacked up, what do you think they will pay to have SGLB's IPQA watch over their little babies? This contract will change everything.
Good call Crook. Basically we are all betting on the fact that SGLB will be able to sign contracts in the multi-million dollar range very soon. Some of which may even be in the 10's of millions.
I feel this is very possible to happen within the next 6 months. The variables are how much, and are they recurring, and as far as Materialise and EOS go, can we get a lump sum per machine or will is be a percentage based on pricing.
There's a lot of questions to iron out, but SGLB is in the position to attack multiple revenue streams in a relatively short period of time.
What's crazy to me and makes me buy more of this stock every chance, is that there are multiple companies who sell 3d Printers with 20Million or so in sales and say 80 million in cash trading at $10-20 a share.
Although we still have to sign those contracts, get uplisted, and expand our operations before that, I feel the growth capabilities for SGLB are astronomical.
65k shares will be worth a lot in 5 years. I missed the convo, but the argument seemed to be between short and long trading. Ive made decent money using both theories. However with Sigma, as I see value in both short term and long term holds, I will try to incorporate both as my strategy. Selling a portion on the large pops we are sure to see, but never losing a majority of my position locked in at much lower prices. Sigma will grow exponetially in the next 5 years IMO. But, since there is still a lot of questions about the value of the technology and the AM market in general, the volatility is sure to be a wild ride.
All IMO
SGLB Long
Webcast today made it very clear, end of 2014 and into 2015 will be extremely important for SGLB. So many applications of the AM market needs IPQA and SGLB is the only company with a product tested by the big boys and ready to go. Early adopters realize the importance and are ready to start producing. SGLB is going to go from making 1 million a year to 10's on millions a year very quickly. SGLB Long. This is only the beginning.
Well with that news from the President that we will be at war with ISIL for the next who knows how long, maybe DARPA will move their application of SGLB tech up again.
Is there a way to prevent myself from hitting refresh on my live market feed on SGLB? I have to check about every 3 seconds lol...will try to walk away and take a break until 3:50 lol.
SGLB dreams finally coming true
Investors are waiting for the confirmation of $$$. We are still running high above revenue so you need the vision to realize this market is huge and SGLB has a large key to opening up high performance parts. It's an "unproven concept" as far as outside investors are concerned. Once we have the validation of money rolling in, all the questions will be answered.
As am I. Cheers!
SGLB Long!
A quote I always remember from someone on this board who I believe their father said it, was, "SGLB will be a penny stock until it isn't a penny stock anymore." That day is coming very soon.
With the patents only currently for DMLS and metal based applications, there's not much protection for them outside of their expertise. However, in terms of the current multi-billion dollar AM high performance part industry, they are the only IPQA tech out there.
It will take time as this is only the infancy of the AM market. Because it is very expensive for the machinery and general know-how, the use of PR3D will initially only be used by the large players who we've seen SGLB in touch with. But, as AM expands, as it is very rapidly and SGLB is the first to market with IPQA for singular and mass production uses, it is very fair to say they will have a large percentage of the market share as far as AM technology goes. I'm sure we will eventually see startup companies with a patented critical part design purchase an AM machine and hopefully will also need PR3D to ensure their product quality. My target is just within 10 years will we see SGLB reach their peak.
I wonder if Sigma went in on any of these? Its dangerously similar to what they already do...
Because they have no employees to do it. We have the products and know-how...it will take time before we get an actual PR team and people to implement marketing. As of now, those expenses aren't needed. They are doing all the testing and "showing-off" of their technologies to their big customer targets with the few employees they have. Once they get some revenue from the big guys they can worry about scaling their business after.
http://www.b6sigma.com/index.php?page=clients
B6 Sigma has assisted commercial clients and Federal government agencies working in the areas of aerospace, automotive, oil & gas and energy by providing system integration solutions for the following technology areas:
Solid State Welding
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Rotary friction (FRW)
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Inertia friction (IFRW)
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Linear friction (LFW)
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Friction stir (FSW)
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Diffusion bonding
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Brazing
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Resistance spot welding (RSW)
Arc Welding
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Gas metal arc (GMAW)
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Gas tungsten arc (GTAW)
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Hot-wire gas tungsten (HW-GTAW)
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Magnet arc (MAW)
High Energy Density Welding
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Laser beam (LBW)
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Electron beam (EBW)
Additive Manufacturing
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Laser based (DMLS)
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Electron beam based (EBDM, EBAM, EBFFF)
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Arc welding based (GMAW & PAW)
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Friction welding based (LFW)
Machining
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Precision turning
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Robotic surface finishing
Well volume has been up lately and we've been staying fairly even. So theres neither too much buying nor selling going on.
how long can we hold this with no news...green is good though, great close.
Hopefully we see a strong close like yesterday. Not sure if this will continue to bleed from 10Q. Still bullish on the company but i would like to make sure my next purchase is at the low point. With so many conferences coming up in september and october I'm expecting SGLB to start gaining some recognition. Also GE LEAP coming soon? commercialization of IPQA soon? this is the time to add i suppose. SGLB!
Positives : Patented Inprocess Quality assurance
Designed by highly educated scientists
and has been tested by very high tech
companies and people within the NEW
additive manufacturing market who find
IPQA very valuable.
First to Market.
Multiple software capabilities (IPQA,DEFORM, etc.)
Entering multiple areas of market (Fuel nozzles,
Honeywell, Dental, Ammunitions)
Disadvantages : AM market is just beginning and may take
years before accepted by all major
producers.
SGLB is in its infantile stage.
They will need to raise funds and
hire the support they need as demand
increases.
If it was any large dumping because of current financials, we would have seen a larger drop already. Held nicely today and .11 is strong support and close above. Might be a little rocky from here but I dont think any smart investors would be dumping at this time while everything is coming to fruition and AM is becoming more and more widely accepted. JMO
Going to be a great EOY for SGLB. Wish I could make these events but sitting back and watching the effect of the events will be just as good.
.11 Held so strong today. Nice volume on all dips, have to assume its buying. Looking like this will hold relatively well regardless of 10Q issues.
Well said. The company will form around these few guys starting it now. All the rest of the work is just number crunching and pencil pushing. All the "work" is done and it's only a matter of time before the market expands and SGLB gets its piece of the pie. There's a lot of time left to go, but the seeds have been planted.
SGLB has been in contact with SAFRAN since SGLB's inception. This GE LEAP fuel nozzle is only the beginning. First to market always wins. SGLB Long.
Thank you! These noobs are crazy. This board has turned into a yahoo board. I just need to learn to let this children squabble over their rediculous thoughts by themselves. Its absolutely exhausting!
Woah, I don't know why everyone is freaking out
over the recent hires and questioning what they
are all doing for SGLB. SGLB's team knows what
they are doing and are experienced professionals.
They know when someone knows what they are talking
about and can smell bullshit a mile away when
it comes to AM. Stop harassing Cola and Dave on
Linkedin. This has been a fantastic year for SGLB
and everything is coming to fruition very soon.
If we don't see revenue from PR3D before the end
of the year, then you can get your panties in a bunch.
But for God sakes calm down. Everything is on
schedule. I'd like to see someone send you 10 emails
a week at your day job asking WTF you are doing
and how you got the job. Realize the people making
the calls are smarter than you in this field. Trust
them or sell your shares and get off the board.
Thanks. SGLB Long.
Nee investor presentation from may but first time I'm seeing it. http://sigmalabsinc.com/index.php?page=investor#Investor_Presentation
I feel we have some time before getting uplisted. Maybe once we get revenues coming in, and employees to handle the office side of things as well as the production side of things. These things take time. SGLB is still young and has a lot of time to mature.
Technically it isn't inexpensive, because as of yet, SGLB has no significant revenue, and the cost of their product is yet to be decided. We don't know if or how much GE is willing to pay for this technology. As the field of AM for production is in its infancy, the entire market has not been tested. It's all new, it's all untested. Based on the interest by these big names companies (GE,DARPA, Honeywell) we can only assume that the technology is valuable. With SGLB having some cash, and no debt, it puts SGLB in a good position, but we have no clue when we will see revenue and how much it will be. I believe SGLB will have a significant role in the AM market and so I understand why you think the shares as "inexpensive". But until our product is making money, nothing is guarenteed. I am accumulating as many shares as I can at these levels, but there is a chance we will definitely see some type of stock reversal to eliminate those many many shares in the future.