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Yeah I noticed the amounts are way down this year, at least they're paying something... Is production ever going back to last year levels? Probably not, sometimes I think ISIL works for Saudi's (or maybe they are editing out attacks in Saudiland by ISIL to keep prices down, I still think they are trying to destroy the American economy.
My vote would be for UK to leave... pretty dumb flipping the bill for Greece and others... The Clinton's pushed for the EU in the 90's what a bad idea... and Clinton's deal with the IRA to stop attacks, did anyone notice that after Trump/Clinton were set to go against each other the IRA (Irish Republican Army) started up attack plans again. It's just their way to control the world, run to Hillary for safety nonsense that the uneducated always fall for....
Heard today that last nuclear plant in California is going to be replaced by solar energy by 2025.
PG&E reaches agreement to close California's last nuclear plant by ...
abc7news.com/news/deal-will-close-californias-last-nuclear-plant-by.../1394735/
23 hours ago - California's last nuclear power plant will close by 2025 under an accord announced Tuesday, ending three decades of safety debates that ...
Thanks for the updates... its a shame that the share price is still down,is that from ISIL or creditors jumping the 2017 gun... pure BS in my sheltered knowledge opinion.
Again someone should be able to take this over with them on the BoD and breath life into it. Real investments, like buying in a 1+pct of wells in eagleford with/from Carrizo who wholly believes in it where they continued to buy leases last year even in October...
I wonder what effect Saudi will have on the gold and silver markets for them wanting to switch into non-oil markets; or in other words, if Saudi sells metals too to fund their moves now while oil is low... I got this heads up from an Albuquerque broker while visiting ABQ:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3557735/Saudi-Arabia-plans-raise-2TRILLION-selling-state-assets.html
Saudi prince announces plans to raise $2 TRILLION by selling off state assets in a bid to remove the kingdom's reliance on oil by 2030
The plan was unveiled by Deputy Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman
His Vision 2030 plan aims to wean Saudi Arabia off its reliance on oil
The fund could buy Apple, Google, Microsoft and Berkshire Hathaway
The Deputy Crown Prince said 'by 2020 we can live without oil'
By CHRIS SUMMERS FOR MAILONLINE
PUBLISHED: 08:18 EST, 25 April 2016 | UPDATED: 10:32 EST, 25 April 2016
Saudi Arabia plans to raise $2trillion (£1.4trillion) by selling off state assets and using the money as a huge investment fund to wean the world's top oil exporter off its reliance on crude in just four years.
Prince Mohammed bin Salman, the deputy crown prince, said: By 2020, if oil stops we can survive. 'We need it, we need it, but I think in 2020 we can live without oil.
He told the al-Arabiya news channel: 'We have all developed an oil addiction in Saudi Arabia and this is dangerous and has hampered development in many sectors during past years.'
The fund would be large enough to buy all four of the world's largest publicly traded companies – Apple, Google parent company Alphabet, Microsoft and Berkshire Hathaway.
Deputy Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman (right) with his father King Salman (centre) and Crown Prince Mohammed bin Nayef pose for pictures after Saudi Arabia's cabinet agreed to implement the Vision 2030 plan
Saudi Arabia plans to sell fiscal assets worth $600billion, and state-owned property and industrial assets.
The prince, a key reformer who also serves as defence minister and head of the country's economic council, was unveiling his Vision 2030 reform plan for the Saudi economy.
Prince Mohammed said the state-controlled Public Investment Fund (PIF) had been restructured to become a hub for Saudi investment abroad, partly by raising money through sales of shares in national oil giant Saudi Aramco.
He also said they planned to increase the number of PIF's foreign investments from five per cent to 50 per cent by 2020.
Saudi Arabia will raise billions by selling 'less than five percent' of state oil giant Aramco, says Prince Mohammed bin Salman
The prince said: 'We restructured the fund. We included new assets in the fund, Aramco and other assets, and we fixed the problems of the current assets that the public investment fund owns, both in terms of companies and other projects.'
The Vision 2030 plan is a recognition that an economy which relies on 80% of its revenue from oil is vulnerable to external shocks.
Prince Mohammed also announced plans for a US-style green card system which would allow non-Saudi Arabs and Muslims to live and work long-term in the country.
He told the al-Arabiya news channel: 'We have all developed an oil addiction in Saudi Arabia and this is dangerous and has hampered development in many sectors during past years,'
The prince said the initial public offering of Aramco shares would be carried out inside Saudi Arabia, making it the largest such share issue in the world.
While Defence Minister Mohammed bin Salman (centre) has been careful not to challenge Saudi Arabia's conservative traditions and powerful clerics, some in the country hope he will be a social reformer
Published by Associated Newspapers Ltd
Part of the Daily Mail, The Mail on Sunday & Metro Media Group
© Associated Newspapers Ltd
Don't know... JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs fines cash raising dump, member of the Panama Papers dump for taxes, or what, but they obviously don't believe it will go up to bail-in's soon as JSmineset.com was expecting...
Today's Google of "Panama Papers" brought up a Russian Times article of Hillary Clinton... lol... something like her approving an mine as Sec. of State that she had an interest in via the....
Hillary Clinton's wealthy donors revealed in Panama Papers
RT - 5 hours ago
Names in the Panama Papers link Democratic presidential candidate Hillary
Clinton, fresh off a big win in New York, and her husband, former ...
https://www.rt.com/usa/340480-clinton-donors-panama-papers/
[So this is where I saw that on ex-Senator Clinton (more prestigious than Sec. of State) oops']"....Giustra is a Canadian mining magnate who became a large donor for the Clinton Foundation 11 years ago, going on to set up the ‘Great White North’ chapter of the foundation. He currently sits on the board.
The billionaire later became an example of the foundation’s murky ties between donors and apparent political favors, due to the 2005 dinner with Giustra, Bill Clinton, and Kazakhstan president Nursultan Nazarbayev – and the deal that “stunned the mining industry, turning an unknown shell company into one of the world’s largest uranium producers in a transaction ultimately worth tens of millions of dollars to Mr Giustra,” wrote the New York Times, quoting analysts.
...
After getting stakes in three Kazakh-run uranium mines, Giustra’s company merged with Rosatom and received approval from Hillary Clinton’s State Department...."
The Panama Papers · ICIJ
https://panamapapers.icij.org/ - Cached
Politicians, Criminals and the Rogue Industry That Hides Their Cash.
This has article from yesterday https://panamapapers.icij.org/20160420-ny-banks-regulator.html
Banks Ordered to Provide Info on Panama Dealings to NY Regulator....
Yes, and I just Googled "Panama Papers" to make sure you could find what I was talking about and they already have a 5 hour old story on Hillary Clinton and some mine investment that she got approved as Sec. of State... lol Love them Russians (RT)
Panama Papers: This is the leak
panamapapers.sueddeutsche.de/articles/56febff0a1bb8d3c3495adf4/
11.5 million documents, 214000 shell companies: The Panama Papers are the largest data leak journalists have ever worked with.
Hillary Clinton's wealthy donors revealed in Panama Papers
RT - 5 hours ago
Names in the Panama Papers link Democratic presidential candidate Hillary
Clinton, fresh off a big win in New York, and her husband, former ...
https://www.rt.com/usa/340480-clinton-donors-panama-papers/
The Panama Papers · ICIJ
https://panamapapers.icij.org/ - Cached
Politicians, Criminals and the Rogue Industry That Hides Their Cash.
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/jennifer-aniston-divorce-justin-theroux-split-claims/
Okay so that explains the not record (street name). I thought Trimerica was a way to avoid all the claims against Treaty, which is why I thought the don't know what's going to happen there would equate to Treaty doom but Trimerica continuing (as no hint of their doom).
I complained to Obama via whitehouse.gov on hearsayed messages on Treaty board about his Forbes writings with a NBA team owner and some firm/company trying to see the death of Treaty for what the poster said was them shorting... (based on SEC allowing these things in the midst of the Panama Papers mentioned in National Enquirer this last issue which were offshore companies setup by another law firm for tax evasion and ownership hiding and how that claim with this new knowledge might make it true that billionaires go around shorting stocks to ruin the company and make themselves richer (obviously on something to themselves seems righteous but as a DA friend loves to say... greed got them).
Nope, the land was available for lease and I contacted Treaty to put an offer in since Carrizo backed out with games on different lease paragraphs then they decided to make it happen after I called a friend of their (Carrizo) head office/directors then they came around and talked to my other partner/share to convince pooling (after not hearing from Treaty). But a serious property for serious production and they didn't even try. The point being my online broker shares are not registered in their office, which is fishy in itself.
And the mumbling words to me meant the only kept Trimerica owners. I guess I should mention lawyer was interested but said he had to get CEO/President approval... which now was obvious a dead-end.
Had to do with a lease opportunity which I mentioned I was a shareholder which in turn he could not find my name on the list. They sat on their hands and a few weeks later Carrizo leased it (Eagleford). Ha, so whether he mumbled to himself or not I heard what I heard. Which what it means I am just guessing.
Hear there, that was well said... Hear here, or ...like a Belize banana tree....
This week's National Enquirer (at WalMart yesterday) shows big timers tax evasion accused in Panama Papers Bombshell http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/jennifer-aniston-divorce-justin-theroux-split-claims/ (see the top left of cover) ... I would bet some of these shorters if are executives going against common shareholders and the SEC should investigate these foreign companies and who's putting up the money to short our stocks and commodities.
You mean when they hired their advisers or before all around .60'ish ... it seems like spending big money to get advice on how to spend capital is a sure tail sign of kaput...
When's the ETA (estimated time of arrival) on Treaty being relisted and wouldn't that mean they'll have to file bankruptcy to counter court decisions against them hanging... as their lawyer told me he couldn't find me as a shareholder (oh you're one of those, don't know what's going to happen their) like their Trimerica is only for those that put new money in. That is a bunch of horse chit.
Intraday chart up to .017 Is Sabine holders getting more than announced?
In coin shop this last Friday I heard the owner tell a client that it was supposed to happen this Friday (last now), next Friday or the next... like 3 times so I guess he was what? too and at the proper time asked who said the big banks in the US were to do a bail in here in the US too?... Sinclair ... then with more conversation I wrote down what I thought I heard JSMindset.com... but obviously JSMineSet.com...
Todays expansion on Friday's news
http://www.jsmineset.com/2016/04/18/in-the-news-today-2439/
In The News Today
Posted April 18th, 2016 at 1:06 AM (CST) by Jim Sinclair & filed under In The News.
Dear CIGAs
More about the class action suit versus Deutsche Bank over manipulating the precious metals market.
According to the notice of suit, many of the major banks and financial firms are named as defendants. This class suit was filed last December. What is new is that Deutsche Bank has apparently admitted its involvement and is cooperating with ongoing government investigations.
Click here to read the full court filing… (at their site)
Today's news in the Journal probably explains why... US Virgin Islands Attorney General March subpoena on Exxon for "trying to cover up its understanding of climate change" and "one of several government officials going after Exxon". Their defense filed yesterday in Texas was "unwarranted" and "that violates its constitutional rights".
Also, Sharon Eubanks, who led tobacco litigation is involved trying to claim RICO violations.
Anyone use Twitter that can check this out https://mobile.twitter.com/GKPlimited/status/713789738067574784
from Google search
GKP limited on Twitter: "Jón Ferrier, CEO, #Gulf #Keystone ...
https://twitter.com/GKPlimited/status/713789738067574784 - Cached
Mar 26, 2016 ... Gulf Keystone Petroleum , Kurdistan new ,Oil news. Joined June 2013 .... Jón Ferrier, CEO, #Gulf #Keystone #Petroleum ON RADIO 4 BBC ..
Just saw the link for 5 most popular silver coin ...
off that link... Does anyone have any? This looks cool, I think I'll try to get some soon. (But the link for the coin didn't work so I had to search for it)
https://sdbullion.com/silver/america-beautiful-5-oz-silver-coins/2016-atb-collection/2016-shawnee-atb-5-oz-silver-america
2016 Shawnee Silver ATB America the Beautiful | 5 troy oz .999 fine silver
http://postimg.org/image/a0bper8nx/
The Shawnee National Forrest 5 oz Silver America the Beautiful .999 fine Silver coin is the 1st America the Beautiful Coin released by the U.S. Mint in 2016 and the 31st overall!
This stunning 5 oz coin depicts a close-up view of Camel Rock with natural vegetation in the foreground and a red-tailed hawk soaring in the sky overhead, and includes the inscriptions: SHAWNEE, ILLINOIS, 2016, and E PLURIBUS UNUM.
The beautiful coin commemorating the Shawnee National Forrest The reverse was designed by United States Mint Artistic Infusion Program (AIP) artist Justin Kunz and engraved by United States Mint Sculptor-Engraver Jim Licaretz.
Mum's (Mummy) the word... hmmm... let me assess the past and the possible deal in the making... Gandy got some candy for Iranians since they're off the no trade list. Iranians get the helios from the failed Iranian hostage rescue attempt in return for 70'000 acres of prime oil fields to be developed by PGI Energy (Err the next Standard Oil)...
This has been for our entertainment only. While some parts might be true, it was purely a possibility and not a known fact. LOL
Saw 10 posts today... got so used to not looking and so I figured it was more of they don't post here anymore play... since .001 now can't wait to see the next nine posts...
Thanks JD400, doesn't look like a company going under as someone else posted.
Don't know...
but Nokia got a heck of a deal... since back when ALU was 6 that got valued at 9 for one new technology and I think that's what they're installing now (some subset of it, taking time to get to market letting competitors get in is bad for business)... I didn't realize back then that Alcatel has offices all over the US (one here in Amarillo), they're big...
On Gleen Beck early 8am-9am so maybe replay of Monday here in Amarillo 940 am he said Austrian banks were calling in depositors and that only the rich (70k in deposits) would have to worry (he said they would get around .40-.50 on the dollar. I think that's were I heard it... at nine am I go over to 710 am for Laura Ingram if I'm in the car like I was. I don't know any details... let me Google real quick...
http://www.silverdoctors.com/headlines/finance-news/here-we-go-bank-bail-ins-begin-as-eu-bank-bailed-in-in-austria/ okay so monday... probably here but missed post before posting... and its only one bank...
Here We Go: Bank Bail Ins Begin as EU Bank “Bailed In” In Austria
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Which is what they've been promoting on Michael Savage for over a year that they can do that to us now in the US (bail-in's instead of bail-out's). maybe that's why Harmony gold was up...
This was kind of a clue that lawyers took most of the available capital (or judge kept total early failure). And those at .01 or lower got their money back today if they sold at .01...
Oil up today and NG. So perhaps asset value went up of someone to think it may last longer?
Well who would put a 100 dollars in a bank to get back 99 (-1% interest rate)? Just keep it in your steamer pot you never use... Oh that's right you have to have a bank account to do anything these days (like getting paid or royalties or direct deposit (to avoid monthly fee)). So this must be their back to fees for no fee if direct deposit?
I don't know, I thought the radio news last night said Yahoo received a bid from someone (they said who, but it wasn't heard by my mind, it did not compute). So maybe it was Daily Mail as I don't think of that as a company. But this says exploring... So maybe it was Verizon...
"Daily Mail Parent Confirms Yahoo Talks
TechWeekEurope UK? - 5 hours ago
Daily Mail and General Trust (DMGT), which owns the tabloid and its popular online news portal, said it was exploring a Yahoo acquisition as a way of building ...
TechWeekEurope UK
Marissa's magic in purple! Daily Mail attends lavish bid party for Yahoo
Ars Technica UK? - 6 hours ago
An earlier Wall Street Journal report—which said that the publishing giant had been in talks about a possible buyout of Yahoo—has now been confirmed. "Given ...
Ars Technica UK
Facebook, Nordic American Tankers, Relypsa, AstraZeneca and ...
Yahoo News? - 6 hours ago
What's the Deal with Relypsa's (RLYP) Buyout Rumors? ... companies that were unsuccessful in acquiring ZS Pharma could well start a bidding war for Relypsa.
Yahoo bid: Daily Mail in talks with private equity firms
The Australian? - 6 hours ago
The owner of Britain's Daily Mail is in early discussions over a bid for the US internet ... A takeover of Yahoo's news properties would markedly increase the Daily ...
The Australian
Don't Miss! MailOnline CAUGHT In Arms of Yahoo!
Bloomberg? - 6 hours ago
Now, the ailing U.S. internet group Yahoo looks like it could be a surprise solution ... Monday that it is in talks to be part of a consortium bid for Yahoo is understandable. ... DMGT will need to convince its prospective buyout partners that there's"
About 40 billion of the AIG bailout returnd in civil judgments... so that explains this http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/10/15/remember-the-182-billion-aig-bailout-it-just-wasn-t-generous-enough.html where AIG CEO wants 40 bilion... lol
{DANIEL GROSS
LUDICROUS10.15.14 9:45 AM ET
Remember the $182 Billion AIG Bailout? It Just Wasn’t Generous Enough
Ex-AIG CEO Maurice ‘Hank’ Greenberg is in court seeking $40 billion from the government over its massive bailout. Let’s hope he goes the way of the shameless Fannie and Freddie hondlers.
Washington isn’t typically known as a theater town. But there’s a pretty good farce being staged at the Court of Claims, where Maurice “Hank” Greenberg, the 89-year-old former CEO of AIG, is suing the government for not being sufficiently generous in its epic $182 billion bailout of the insurance company. His chief lawyer, the high-profile, high-fee constitutional attorney David Boies, has called to the stand such luminaries of the bailout era as former treasury secretaries Henry Paulson and Tim Geithner, and former Federal Reserve chairman Ben Bernanke.
Fireworks have been few, though it was revealed that Bernanke used a Victorian pseudonym, “Edward Quince,” while writing late-night emails to colleagues about the debacles unfolding around him. It is likewise interesting to see how Boies, the hero of the gay marriage fight, can so clearly be on the right side of history one day and so clearly on the wrong side the next. And you have to give credit to Greenberg. Pushing 90, he has outlived so many of his contemporaries and adversaries, and is still cheesed at having been kicked out of the company he built by Eliot Spitzer in 2005. Rich beyond any measure, he’s suing the government for $40 billion because YOLO.
While Greenberg is a singular figure in American business, he’s sadly not alone in trying to argue that the taxpayers should stand ready to provide guarantees that let Wall Street hondlers profit in good times but then spare them from losses in bad times—and then transfer the profits to them later on. Several shameless wheedlers have been trying the same strategy—trying to wrest public assistance and assets into their own hands through a court action—with the two other largest single recipients of bailout aid, housing finance giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
A quick recap. During the credit boom, AIG sold “insurance” on all sorts of financial instruments to other firms but never bothered to put money aside to pay the claims. In 2008, it was looking at a death spiral: cut credit ratings, claims on the policies, and collateral calls. By the late summer, AIG was functionally bankrupt—unable to meet financial obligations or raise new cash. And its management had no clue. “We think they are days from failure,” Bernanke (writing as Edward Quince) told colleagues, it was revealed in court last week. “They think it is a temporary problem. This disconnect is dangerous.”
When companies go bankrupt, stockholders are wiped out, and the creditors (people to whom the company owes money) take a haircut on their claims. But the Federal Reserve and the government decided AIG couldn’t be allowed formally to file for bankruptcy, as that would force virtually all the world’s financial institutions to take big financial write-downs at a time of already high stress. The solution was a bailout—of AIG, and of the financial system as a whole. The Fed and Treasury made virtually unlimited funds, $182 billion in all, available to AIG so that it could make payments to counterparties like Goldman Sachs and Deutsche Bank, and thus spare them from losses.
In exchange for offering such a huge sum, the government demanded that the taxpayers should receive interest payments and an 80 percent ownership stake in AIG. At the time, that was a little like receiving polluted land as compensation for spending a ton of money to clean up a toxic waste site.
Now, AIG was a huge, sprawling company, with lots of assets and decent insurance businesses, especially in Asia. And over time, as the panic stopped and the global economy reflated—in part due to the rescue of AIG—the company began to map out a strategy to pay back the taxpayers. Succeeding beyond expectations, AIG actually managed to pay them back in full and provide them with a $23 billion profit by 2012. Once that happened, Greenberg, who wanted little to do with the company when it was short $180 billion, filed suit, arguing that the terms were too tough and that the government should have given AIG unlimited cash on easier terms. It’s a little like a man dying of thirst in the desert suing the guy who rescued him because he gave him tap water to drink instead of Evian.
The trial is ongoing. But we can only hope the judge treats Greenberg the way several other similarly minded hondlers were treated by a D.C. Court last week.
In 2008, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the two government-sponsored enterprises that extended hundreds of billions of mortgage debt with little thought, were staring bankruptcy in the face. But the consequences of a filing would have been disastrous. Banks and financial institutions owned hundreds of billions of dollars of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac bonds, and would have been forced to take huge write-downs on those assets at exactly the wrong time.
As with AIG, the government essentially bailed out the financial system by bailing out Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Instead of declaring bankruptcy, the two behemoths were put into conservatorship by the Federal Housing Finance Agency and given blank checks to keep running. Combined, they drew down an astonishing $188 billion. In exchange for the cash, Fannie and Freddie issued preferred stock to Treasury that was supposed to pay 10 percent dividend. When it became apparent the companies couldn’t make those payments regularly, the deal was changed in 2012. The two companies, which were essentially owned and entirely backstopped by the taxpayers, would turn over all their profits to the government.
As the housing market and the economy recovered, Fannie and Freddie did what few people thought possible: they lent money more carefully, and started making profits. Thus far, the two firms have kicked back $218 billion to the Treasury.
Once the profits started to flow, fund managers, led by Bill Ackman and Bruce Berkowitz—who were nowhere to be found when these firms really needed cash—started snapping up shares of Fannie and Freddie stock and then sued. Their contention: The government, having saved the housing giants, should turn over a greater chunk of ownership to shareholders while continuing to guarantee the companies’ debt.
On October 1, just as the AIG trial was getting under way, Judge Royce Lamberth, a Reagan appointee, issued a decision telling them to stuff it.
Asking federal courts to turn over public assets to private investors for no good reason seems like a very strange investment strategy. But it makes sense to a degree. We’re more than 60 months into an aging bull market, and the major indices are now wobbling. Building a business is hard work. Most 50-something fund managers, let alone 89-year-old former executives, don’t know much about apps and tech, where the real money is these days. The system has been exceedingly friendly and receptive to financial engineers who exploit wrinkles in the tax code, regulations, and government subsidies to turn big profits—without contributing much to the economy at large. And the costs of litigation amount to chump change for guys who count their net worth in nine and 10 figures.
But every trend peters out. And these lawsuits may prove to be one step too far. We may be witnessing the Twilight of the Hondlers.
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Yes, but the URL link for article showed US-Russia-OPEC ... thus... why I mentioned US.
Just found and posted in Oil... board but since this was reply'ed to today I thought I'd go ahead and post it here as a possible no way to enforce oil production freeze in the US... Or in otherwords how can their be due process of the law if the courts don't hear cases because Congress didn't give them coverage (no standing nonsense). Again, AKA, the Taft act (not the Constitution, forcing lower court decisions first, which is not in the Constitution as the Sup. Crt. rules over treason and ambassadors (which a President/VP would be ambassadors {so they should take cases straight to the Sup. Crt. - and thus so should candidates for President be able to settle immediately too as Bush vs. Gore wanted to but went to lower courts first because as I have experience the Sup. Crt. clerks don't let it get to the Sup. Crt. Justices if rules aren't followed).
[Once they tried to enforce a freeze on oil production in Texas by going into Martial Law, (Texas Gov. Sterling vs. Constantin). But also Obamacare seizing guns should be worthless as in Texas vs. Sparks.
http://www.sll.texas.gov/assets/pdf/braden/07-article-i.pdf
"....In State v. Sparks (27 Tex. 627 (1864)), several persons arrested by the Confederate military authorities came into the hands of a sheriff on habeas corpus proceedings. While these proceedings were in progress the military forces again seized control of the prisoners. The supreme court vigorously asserted civil judicial supremacy without specifically citing the constitutional guarantee then in force. It referred to the offending general as a criminal in contempt of court but because of the military situation, the court contented itself with levying fines on the general and his military subordinate and sending a protest along with a statement of the proceedings to the governor. "It is the civil government alone that stands for the state,'.' said the court, "and the military is only an instrument that it uses as its judgment requires" (p. 633).
If and only if the civil authority ceases to operate-that is, the courts are closed-can the military authorities assume control and govern through martial law (Ex parte Milligan, 71 U.S. (4 Wall.) 2 (1866)). Consider the famous case of Sterling v. Constantin involving an attempt by Governor Ross Sterling to use martial law to enforce curtailment of oil production in Texas. The United States Supreme Court upheld the oil producers' claims that their property was being taken without due process of law. Governor Sterling's attempt to insulate regulation of oil production by a declaration of martial law was unsuccessful. "What are the allowable limits of military discretion, and whether or not they have been overstepped in a particular case, are judicial questions" (287 U.S. 378, 401 (1932)). Thus, "civil authority" includes the judiciary; the governor, when he exercises his military power, in effect ceases to be the civil authority to which the military is subordinate...."
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Once they tried to enforce a freeze on oil production in Texas by going into Martial Law, (Texas Gov. Sterling vs. Constantin). But also Obamacare seizing guns should be worthless as in Texas vs. Sparks.
http://www.sll.texas.gov/assets/pdf/braden/07-article-i.pdf
"....In State v. Sparks (27 Tex. 627 (1864)), several persons arrested by the Confederate military authorities came into the hands of a sheriff on habeas corpus proceedings. While these proceedings were in progress the military forces again seized control of the prisoners. The supreme court vigorously asserted civil judicial supremacy without specifically citing the constitutional guarantee then in force. It referred to the offending general as a criminal in contempt of court but because of the military situation, the court contented itself with levying fines on the general and his military subordinate and sending a protest along with a statement of the proceedings to the governor. "It is the civil government alone that stands for the state,'.' said the court, "and the military is only an instrument that it uses as its judgment requires" (p. 633).
If and only if the civil authority ceases to operate-that is, the courts are closed-can the military authorities assume control and govern through martial law (Ex parte Milligan, 71 U.S. (4 Wall.) 2 (1866)). Consider the famous case of Sterling v. Constantin involving an attempt by Governor Ross Sterling to use martial law to enforce curtailment of oil production in Texas. The United States Supreme Court upheld the oil producers' claims that their property was being taken without due process of law. Governor Sterling's attempt to insulate regulation of oil production by a declaration of martial law was unsuccessful. "What are the allowable limits of military discretion, and whether or not they have been overstepped in a particular case, are judicial questions" (287 U.S. 378, 401 (1932)). Thus, "civil authority" includes the judiciary; the governor, when he exercises his military power, in effect ceases to be the civil authority to which the military is subordinate...."
My last reply was to this, sorry didn't know I was in the msg you responded to. http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=121832507
Can't they infiltrate their inner circle and put an end to their control? Seems like if you don't have the inner com memo to buy/sell/hold whatever you don't win, but they do.
(Or as it appears, you many have their inner-memo but use it to make money for yourself as Terry and Hillary did in Democrat Party - lol - I had always heard that story of the Dem President Terry doing the $1k investment but never heard Hillary amount until recently... and I wonder what they told him so he wouldn't run for President as he wanted to and to keep then General from running again... more lies I bet).
lol they are so corrupt... then Hillary's love statement after NH win, what was that about (she must think God is leading her - mind control).
Did Goldman have sell metal holdings or they made that on their shorting of oil... Where do they find that money ($5 billion)? Or maybe they made it on rise of gold since 12/31 (first short (puts) then call's... man they seem to be the secret control of the markets (along with JP Morgan and UK).
for 2001-2008 lending... filed 2012 (last possible moment of 4 years to file on 2008)... wow, Obama Administration is tough on Bush's pal friendly practices... So does this help pay for AIG's bailout? lol
Funny, sounds like Rubio a fantasy President. We've had this ability since Jesse Helms finding mind experiments on Viet Cong (then they so-called and I mean so-called burned the evidence) of putting thoughts in people heads as I am confident Nixon used on the Arabs to save Israel in the Yom Kippur war (as one can read about how Abraham told them to ceasefire and withdraw). Then with the development of mind reading technology for helo helmets must've finished it all off they can read your mind off of DNA frequencies too if you're that important. So the point all that little headsup is for those guys are under their control (some of them very obviously, like they pause to get voice to guide them). They even claim W. Bush got help in second debate with that Technology to help him keep his mind straight (against Gore). All hearsay and their best defense is to accuse anyone with "proof" goes to the loony bin... lol Marco went crazy after it was clear he wouldn't win. But I am guessing he stayed in because voices in his head said he would get the nomination anyway... lol They are mean S.O.B.'s ...
See John Hall MD of San Antonio who wrote a book on ex-FBI agent as PI (private invest.) who got caught by him and his clients, who then made a movie about it... http://www.newbreedmovie.com/News-or-Reviews.html
And Roger Tolces for starting points http://www.coasttocoastam.com/guest/tolces-roger/6174
The new terrorist acts of the near future... Buy our oil or we dump it on your Florida coastal waters that'll land on its beaches... lol These guys are fools, oil would have to jump to $150/bbl for them to get their rental fees back to make it worth their storage in tankers. What am I missing here? Everyone thinks oil is going to jump up big?