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If this was in a PR the street would be all over it. I'll take them serious when they issue a PR on substantial news, until then you are going strictly on faith.
Couldn't agree more, that's why I am riding free right now. Who starts up a business, puts out a product and has great reviews and then just sits on it. There should have been money in the budget for ads and if they used that money, that is one of the best reasons to have a bit of debt, because of the reviews. Them getting the word out would generate much more than a few flyers and posters. Which in turn would take care of the debt. As the sharks say on their show, because of this I am out.
Hey I've taken out my initial investment, riding free here, if it happens it happens. I hope it does, just not putting anymore in till I know what is going to happen. Until they do what they say they are going to do, I'll play somewhere else, for awhile, check back in every now and then.
Cmon Bull, how the hell are they going to get many more, THEY DON"T EVEN ADVERTISE, this is comical.
This is something the street needs to see, not in a tweet, it is essentially useless.
lol hence the numbers for Esposito and Orr. Never come across a company with a great product not putting out anything. I'm counting on their being a really good reason for this and not the usual down here in otc land. As far as the 1% if it happens it's ment to be, I've always went through life like that. We are good have a good weekend.
I have no idea what you are talking about from this post. My post was my opinion about the lack of advertising on a product that has VERY SATISFIED CUSTOMERS. Also the lack of any update on subs or ads that the street can take into consideration. Not looking for a pr every week, but 1 every month or month and a half on progress would not be bad. Who the hell in their right mind would start a business and come to find out that several hundred customers love the product and then sit back for over a month now and do nothing, where is the logic in that. Also if they are not ready to advertise, then why the heck send out flyers and posters, something is not adding up to me. This opinion has nothing to do with you Thor, don't know where that came from.
Well you can think what you want to, I have very nice flyers and posters, that they sent me and maybe a few others, that's all the advertising that I know of other than the guy on here that owns several stores. When you have a great product with satisfied customers you get the word out, it's that simple. Most people on here know, time is money. I was a bit disappointed that nothing formed with Roku before their IPO came out. The longer they wait, the smaller the window of opportunity gets. Hope I am wrong, we will see. The market is waiting for updated filings and updated business numbers and subs as are most other investors. No updates at all for the street several months in, to me does not look good. Good numbers, bad, it doesn't matter this early in the game, but the street needs to know if this is a serious business. Right now volume is showing that.
lol, this isn't about money, it's about making a business look legitimate.
Just saw an add for Dish Network, showing live football games on the devices that use their service. So how much longer is everyone going to give these guys till they start advertising. I'm out except for my free shares and will not put any more in till they start advertising. I don't mind helping them out, but when you see no effort on their part to get the word out on THEIR OWN product, it's almost comical. And don't jump in and say they don't want anymore debt, this would be well advised debt. All I can say is wow
I hear ya, just so you know, it is only a observation on my part, not whinning. To each his own how they operate, I'm just mystified at not advertising a great product. There has to be a reason for it and I am counting on it to be a good reason. I understand where you are coming from believe me.
Good god not whinning, I kinda know what it takes to at least get a business going. Riding free shares right so I am not losing money. You tell me, they have a great product so where is the advertising. JUST GOOD BUSINESS, NOT WHINNING AT ALL, YOU PEOPLE NEED TO GET A LIFE.
If they continue to not advertise or even update subs, NOT THROUGH TWEETER, but an actual legit report, then expect this to stay here or go lower. I,m lost for positive words this makes very little sense to me.
Do you know what the stock symbol is by any chance. Thanks
Good, I'll wait now with no worries, I have played enough of these down here to at least not lose any money. Wish I had more shares, but Def not buying anymore until this company starts acting professional.
Speaking of advertising, where is it. Because of this I pulled out my initial invest. Sure could have a lot more free shares, but at the time I believed in them. Still have 2 mil and may pull most of them if it gets close to 10. I am not bashing this stock, it is doing it themselves. If there is an excuse for not advertising, it better be good.
Just took out my initial investment, still have 2 mil, left. If this continues without any updates or pr,s soon then I'm out and will buy back in later. Such a shame.
Is that Tito that played for the SF Giants, back in the 70s or is it someone else. Tia.
He can tweet all he wants, but when it comes to business and numbers, if they are not in a pr then they are worthless to the big guys.
If it was a tweet, it is worthless to the street, as far as advertising, not much.
The no advertising or updates on subs, is not doing this company any favors.
very nicely said 4steadyb
I will say this, it has touched 16 for third time, so this is point where something needs to happen. If it closes below 16, it is definitely not good at all, for anybody. If it does close below 16, then they will drive this down to the lower trips, jmo.
You know how the game is played down here, they need to separate themselves from the other toxic games down here, if they want people to take them seriously. The ball is in their court, they are the ones that are making themselves look skeptical.
Cmon whitie, you know as well as I do,if they started advertising this, this product would sell it's self. There are only a couple of reasons I can think of as to why they are not putting the word out. The longer they wait on promoting this product, the worse it looks.
Old Mexico, been saying this for over a month now, them not promoting this at all, is doing more damage than anything, especially down here in otc land. The longer they do not provide any info on company growth or advertising, then the price will only drop. Not expecting earth shattering news, but nothing causes major doubt.
You should get a response pretty quick, they were pretty fast with me. During the week it was within 30 min, the weekend, don't know.
Took about 3 or 4 business days. I dropped off about 50 to a friend and also a shareholder. There was also a thread on here from someone who gave us some great ideas where to put them. Still have some left and plan on putting them in some restroom areas, will have to bring the wife for the ladies rooms :)
Email the company and ask for flyers and posters, I got about 300 flyers, very nice by the way and 10 posters also very nice.
have you sent off for some flyers and posters, if not that will give you something do.
yes that would be wonderful
Sorry Jtech ain't buying that, wish I could but not this time.
This has been my number one complaint, where is the advertising. I started a business so I know the importance. Since the incredible lack of ads, it leads me to only two conclusions. 1 A buyout or merge, or 2 a pretty sneaky scam. No bashing here, just saying how it is, and by now at least an update on subs. The incompetence here I hope has a good reason, why I am leaning towards conclusion 1.
Screw the tweets, the street needs to see it writing. That's the worst thing the sec did was letting tweets seem legit, when no one really takes them serious.
This is one time when I will agree with you, Zent. More the management than the other I feel. Unless he has a plan down the road in the near future. You have a great product with next to no advertising, almost always late on filings. For the present moment I feel the management is doing more harm then anything. Like I said unless there is a behind the scene plan, either way this should be edging up a little each week not down. Go figure.
I'll second that, you have a beautiful product that is not being represented in the best interest of everyone including the owners of the company. I am beyond scratching my head as to how this product is not being promoted on all fronts. I guess to each his own on how a company is to be built.
hate to say it, but I agree, this damage is definitely avoidable. If it drops below 20 I make take some profit. If he want's Viva to be a professional looking business, then he needs to do a better job.
Agree with you there, the other great thing is, they are double sided, so if they are thrown on the ground, you can still view it.
It took about 3 business days to get here. Going out tonight to put some around Edmond, I like the idea of putting one on the inside door of the john.
That looks like the same amount they sent me, and love the ideas as to where to put them.