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thats what I have been saying for 3 months
Could be, I have a really good friend who was a subscriber and investor who watches a lot of movies and he is out of the stock and the sub, so yes I could see them losing the subs who like to watch movies. To me like I said movies are movies, not that big of deal to me, but to others I guess it is.
And I agree the product is great, just mismanaged.
You don't understand my point. It doesn't look good on the business side, I could really care less about the movies and have expressed that they really are not that big of deal. It is the business side of this and how the customer looks at the company, for me it does not look good.
At this rate with people getting out because of the movie channels disappearing, got to be much lower.
you have got to be broke by now investing that way, lol.
First off, for those on this board that know me, been there done that. Now I am still waiting for Viva to do THEIR OWN ADVERTISING. I'm playing with their money now so I am not stressed about the stock price. Ask yourself one thing, why put out a really great product and NOT ADVERTISE. That is 1 of 2 main reasons why I pulled out. The other is no sub updates (not twitter lol) these 2 reasons after almost 7 months, something doesn't smell right to me. Go knock yourself out, good for you.
Don't blame him, blame the boss.
good for you, I am also playing with house money.
If the company would do what they said they would do, a few flippers will get lost in the volume. You can only blame on thing and it is not the flippers.
Well maybe not, but look at it as a customer, having a service taken away and not knowing when it will be back. That does not look good and most on here are all about first impressions, you guys need to start looking at this at how it looks like to a customer.
on top of that, they HAVE NEVER UPDATED
didn't seem to hurt SIRI and thats just being professional
This should tell you something about how this company is run, no one knows the sub count or ss because of no updates. Going on 7 months and not one update on subs.
On top of that, how many have cancelled due to the fact of the movie package gone.
you don't know that, the bs on this board is staggering.
That being said I will probably just flip every now and then, till either this fades away or they actually start advertising. If that happens then I will be all in.
I haven't just being sarc. It's funny seeing some of the longs starting to get impatient.
Patients, relax, sit back and enjoy the day. Keep adding don't lose the faith, we don't need a pr or advertising. Nothing to worry about, just keep buying.
This is where the proof is in your hands. You say they are running, then prove it. It is up to you not the people who don't think they are running. This board does not understand reasoning of showing proof. Cmon jmmathews67 do the board a favor and show one of the ads.
I hear what you are saying acampors, I'll just kindly disagree. Even if it was on only spanish channels, there should be samples of them. I'm mostly out now so what I have in, is house money. We had a free app up till about a week ago. My good friend who subscribed to Viva, unsubscribed because of them losing the movie channels and who knows how long it will be before they are back if at all. Because of how the movie channels have been handled, I'm glad I didn't subscribe now. Listen I would like this to succeed as much as anyone else on here, but in all honesty he needs to start being more honest with what he is saying. I sure as hell don't come on here to waste my time.
For the last time board, VIVA is the one that came out with the date. Fore everyone on here who want's to believe it started, fine. But don't come on here and tell the non believers it is up to them to prove they didn't advertise. IF IT WAS ADVERTISED THERE SHOULD BE ADS OUT. If you think they advertised, it really shouldn't be all that hard to find. But make no mistake, it is up to the believers to show proof SINCE VIVA IS THE ONE SAYING THEY WERE GOING TO ADVERTISE. And if you can't seem to find an ad, well that should tell you something. Also ENOUGH WITH THE EXCUSES PLEEEEEEEZE.
Good for you, kinda crazy but back in 04 I hit it big on a penny and paid the house off, was content, never thought about getting back in, till the wife said, why don't you try it again. Told myself that I would never marry another stock till I found this one. Could have made a few $ in the 80's, but held and sold most down in the teens. I have put a little back in back in but will prob look elsewhere now. Good luck figuring it out, hope you make a ton of money.
Guys and gals you're age I envy. You have the internet, puters to work with and more importantly time. Good for you, wish I would have started playing down here on a regular basis a long time ago.
Good lord, people were making retirement plans, parties, you name it a few days ago. You people get crazy when this thing moves a few ticks. Now on a side note, is 23 the pullback target. I put a small order in at 26, but only a little less then 50% was filled, we shall see what tomorrow brings.
Very well put, thanks, may just need to look at this from a different prospective. I see you're point.
I hear ya, pretty funny on the paper towels. Not calling anybody anything. My point is, because of the internet, people who start a penny stock have become much more imaginative and they realize that 90% of the people are going to flip on them, because of the nature of the market. They rely on the 10% getting caught and making their money, just a guess of course.
My biggest complain, concern you name it, is, they have a great product and has been used for almost 6 months and no ads, just doesn't ad up to me. If you have read my other post, you are aware I started and ran a successful business. People on here replied back on them not advertising because of lack of money or being frugal, it doesn't work that way. You spend money to make money. When I see definite ads, I will be all in, well maybe not all in depending on the SS. :)
I still have plenty, just not convinced yet to put a bunch back in.
Lol, if you want this to blast off you want the street to know, they are the fuel. When the street is convinced, it will blast off.
That's really all I need to see before I put more back in. You would have thought he would have given the shareholders a sample of the ads. That would have solidified the legitimacy of this company. Until there is proof of any ads, it's still not convincing to me.
Supposedly, better sell on the first move up on monday. Don't blame you for flipping, but don't get to be like luvtogigl, spewing bullchit. If someone can produce an add I will go all in. Everyone it seems has their own agenda on this board.
Been doing it the whole time I have been here. Hurts the board, don't know how some people live with themselves.
Don't think so mad, they, Viva are the ones claiming to start the ads. So for all the non believers it is up to the believers to show proof.
On a side note, I missed a thanksgiving dinner with friends and my wife came home and told me, they got rid of Viva and went back to cable. I haven't talked with him yet, my guess is the movie channels. My point is, some on here claiming this number and that numbers of subs, I wonder how many have been lost due to this situation.
Did that someone post proof or just a guess, prob just a guess and if so my guess is, they are way off, but that's just a guess. :)
Until, or if ever they come out with updated fins, no one can make a logical investment move. No telling what the ss is now, but based on the last month, the os is probably much higher. No one on this board knows the answer to the os question, that to me in concerning.
LOL, there is a difference between a tweet and a 8k, and from the looks of the volume, I think the street knows the difference also.
They are not giving updates on subs, almost 6 months in, or ss. They have not advertised at all. Some say they have had a small add on a scroll add in NY City. That add I am not completely convinced of. Regardless, they have done next to nothing to get the word out on the product or info for serious investors to make a decision. So to me, with little info out, not surprising at all where the price is at. When the volume gets to 1 to 2 billion, then you will know this is legit, until then the flippers are the ones making a few coins.
Then you should also bring up the fact, SIRI was not only advertising, they were also updating the shareholders and the street on subs. Because Viva is not doing either, I pulled all but a little over half a million of my trips out. I will continue to follow, but not post much anymore. Also because of not knowing the share structure and the way this is getting diluted, leads me to believe, that when they do come clean with the ss, they will announce a rs, jmo. good luck all.
Also just to remind you, november is already half gone, this does not look good, just saying.
I appreciate and respect you're opinion, my gut feeling is telling me the opposite, I hope I am wrong.