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Price wise? I have no clue. I've never seen a stock trade in this manner. It's being manipulated like crazy - that's obvious. But your guess is as good as mine on price in short term.
Long term? Even if they merely sold off assets and sent out cash as dividends - it would be a good hold. But then again - I don't day trade for pennies, trade with money I can't afford to lose, and like to hold long term in things I believe in. The CEO/CFO all have huge positions and don't sell - why should I?
In the end I've got a just over 7 figures position in the company bought pre-13 and on the dips this year. If I lose it all - I'm down 10-15k at most. If it goes $5-10 - I'm retiring. So, I spent 15k for a ticket to the big show - can't win if you ain't willing to get a little dirty.
Canadianinsider.ca - you can set alerts via email too.
What sent you down this trail if I may ask? Why not send to Mike and just ask him "plausible" - yes/no? You never know how he may respond.
Impressive - I need to digest and cross reference some things. Thanks for doing this. Truly a lot of spade work.
Can't wait. Did you use a shovel, spade or pick axe?
I just can't keep all these people and titles straight. Thought maybe I could be edumacated.
Looks like insiders are buying again, FYI.
I didn't see where they added a "consultant" - I see they added an employee as CTO. But please point out where I am mistaken. Thanks.
How do we know it to be true?
Also said in an article that the company he is consulting for - Geonovus - now is in a partnership or something with Affinor. He's a paid shill and the Affinor gomers attacked him when Chris was attacking Affinor. Now that his client is in bed with them, he's changed his tune and is anti-Abattis who also declined to pay Stockhouse to promote its stock.
That's the problem once you sell your "services" - you're forever tainted and/or suspect. The only thing you have in life is your word/reputation. If you're going to sell it out - better make it worthwhile, you only get to do it once or twice before everyone realizes you're just a paid whore.
Shark - saw your PM - I can't respond. No Twitter but have watched you on there. Maybe I'll set one up.
Nice synopsis - thanks for bringing some clarity to these issues.
Free Dropbox account with anonymous email or something? Also could use Imgur and post the pages as pictures (export PDF pages as JPGs) and then share the link.
Love it - thanks for the shout out.
Note "all defendants" - Affinor's PR this morning is a complete and utter lie. Absolutely blatant lie. I'm flabbergasted in fact.
Once again, the court did not remove the defendants from the case. In fact, all of the defendants were ordered to appear at the temporary injunction hearing. This is astounding.
Thank you letters?
Don't - I'm an anonymous message board poster. If anything - think about what is said and use it to do your own research. Never rely on anything you read here. You'll definitely stay saner if not richer that way.
Ha. Hope for all the folks who hold this stock you are right. I don't own Affinor and have no intention of owning or shorting this stock. I will do nothing to put any money in Nicky's pocket - he's pathological.
Company not even named? Did you read who is named in the lawsuit? Do you understand how lawsuits work? Affinor, Affinor LLC (US company) and Brusatore are all defendants in the lawsuit and will have to answer all of the allegations brought against them, submit to depositions etc.
If people want to spin - that's fine. Posting blatantly false information is going a bit far. I'm beginning to think that certain statements are not mistaken but rather are willful ...
As usual - the class of which your background has brought you is quite noticeable. Stay classy!
Listen, slick. I'll say what I like and call out the whiny as much as I want - it is ridiculous. I'm glad you have all day to nitpick every slight that is being done to you by the company - like I said, if you want constant bull 'chit - buy Nicky. You'll get tons of communications....
Ugh - just ugh. Me thinks you don't want "communications" - you want bull 'chit all the time.
Because Abattis doesn't talk through social media "chit" (as you put it) and follows PR rules laid out by the SEC. PPL on these boards need to chill the f out - do you want a "real" company or one that plays games? You can't have both - so pick what you want and invest in companies that align with your worldview.
Legal review of all PRS and they must be approved by IIROC. If you can't wait a couple hours for legitimate news - maybe you should invest in Nicky's company - he has no problem spewing bull chit everywhere. =)
http://www.iiroc.ca/Pages/default.aspx
I wish I could - but can't. So don't use the information to do anything as I am an anonymous poster as well. I just wanted to put down a "marker" post to refer to when the order becomes public. You just need to know who to call in certain court houses. Hint - you know those ppl who type when people say things in court. What are their names again...?
Remember - companies have to vet these types of things through legal as well as the CSE for certain types of PRs. People always forget that the CSE or it's vendor has to look at certain types of releases before they are posted on the news services.
This string of posts BDog don't make any technical sense to me. Could you explain what royalty or insiders or why hiding face? I usually can follow you - but these I don't follow. Could you please explain? I genuinely am curious here. Thanks!
Not technically the wrong court - just that the fed court in Seattle is bound by goofy decision out of California. Any other fed court in US and wouldn't have been problem. You always want to be in fed court first - state court is just a bit wonkier for companies. If I was the defendants, however, I'd be more worried in state court. Prosecutors have closer ties to state court than federal court - much easier for *criminal charges* to be determined and brought.
Actually - that information is incorrect. Not tossed out - let this post be a marker of who gives accurate information.
Court issued TRO this afternoon and ordered defendants to show cause why there should not be an injunction put in place on 11/24.
Again, you may want to check your sources as you are either being fed erroneous information or...
Yeah - that's what fun about stock - you sell it for cheap when you think it is going down, and then 20 years later you do a "what would X amount of Y stock be worth today?" With splits and dividends or whatever, I lost an insane amount on 25,000 worth of Apple stock given to me out of an uncle's estate when I was a teenager. =)
I've always dreamed about going back in time and buying $5000 worth of Coca Cola stock back in early 1900s and putting in a prepaid Swiss bank box. Pick it up now. Be rich and buy yacht that simply wanders the earth. Ahh.... Woulda, coulda, shoulda...
Give 'em hell, Curious. I made one major mistake in my early life (dropped Apple) - I'd be close to 250 million if I had held that stock just a couple of years. I believed in the product and people, but got spooked based on "educated" insight.
The latest about "owning nothing" is hilarious. I guess that means every director (who have very impressive careers outside this company) is putting those careers and reputations at risk by submitting false information in security filings. OK - I'm sure that is what is happening. That's the ticket.
Absurd from the initial premise - but tainted with the "educated" insight of an anonymous internet stock board poster. At least a little humor.
And if anyone is buying stock based on "pumpers" on this or any internet stock board - they need to have their head's examined. I seriously hope no one buys based on what I say - just take what I say and examine whether it seems plausible and then investigate on your own. I am just having fun smashing down the idiotic comments that get made on here that are so far out of what is rationale I just gotta laugh at the size of the balls or ovaries of the person making them.
Yet again - it's nice that you can google, but you failed to find something on point. You're citing a "voluntary" dismissal without prejudice. Shall we go another round of legal insight?
Sorry, thats wrong. The way a TRO works is very specific - it's an order directed to specific parties to do/not do something -and is controlling on those ppl-company's actions no matter where they are located. I spent 30 mins and untold amount of money having my corp lawyer explain it all.
Doesn't work that way. Federal courts hear federal legal challenges AND where there are parties from different states/countries. One of issues was federal - computer fraud & abuse. In Seattle region of US - and this region only - computer fraud & abuse need to show that they "broke" into computer. Since Lund had passwords - he didn't break into computer. Didn't matter that he had bad intent (which was uncontested - think about that) - it was just that since he had password, it wasn't part of computer fraud and abuse. Again, only region in US that has this interpretation. In fact - Microsoft and Amazon etc are lobbying congress to overrule this region's interpretation.
http://www.circuitsplits.com/2012/04/new-ninth-circuit-decision-creates-circuit-split-over-scope-of-cfaa.html
So, even if it is state court that issues TRO -it is issued against people doing acts ANYWHERE in US. If the TRO is issued by state court - Nicky, Affinor
& individual thieves will be ordered not to act anywhere against what court says. It won't be pretty and this nonsense of it being limited to Washington state has to stop. It is untrue.
Design OR INTEGRATE - perhaps consider the other implications of that phrasing.
Yet again - do you (or Nicky for that matter) have any idea what dismissed without prejudice means? It is without prejudice to Abattis to refile at any point in time. What kind of legal advice is Nicky getting? It is he just winging this stuff?
Um, yes it was filed. Hearing is on Monday. Not sure where you get your information - but you may want to start disregarding it as a source.
It was filed in state court and "without prejudice" is not helpful to Nicky - he obviously doesn't know what it means. It means that the action taken by the court is not prejudicial AGAINST ABATTIS. Abattis can refile in federal court if it finds documents in the state court action that indicates that it should be back in federal court. If Nicky has any lawyers or biz guys investing in the company - one look at this PR and they will be running for the hills. Very very clear - Nick shoots from the hip and doesn't consult with anyone. This PR is so misleading it may form the basis of a securities violation.
Not exactly right, Curious. "Without prejudice" means that Abattis can refile if grounds are later found for federal jurisdiction. Nicky's press release is so incorrect that I wonder if a 6 year old wrote it. "Unlawful" claim? There is no such thing. No evidence? Hardly, the court just inquired whether it had jurisdiction (I.e., the responsibility for hearing the argument) or did the state court. Judge said that state court had responsibility. Nothing else was decided. I think Nicky must have written this himself - how amateurish.
Hail Mary? Irrefutable evidence of theft and conspiracy to commit fraud and you think it's a Hail Mary attempt?unbelieveable.
Yeah - absolutely screwed. Those poor thieves and crooks who sign agreements and don't follow them. I'm so empathetic towards them - maybe we should have a parade for them? Let's do a kickstarter and raise so funds. Yeah, that's the ticket.
No - they are human scum. Lowest of the low. The made commitments and as soon as they could, they broke their commitments and the trust they had been given. Truly scum.