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Retired, I can appreciate your skepticism in regard to companies in the OTC. I am sure you have much more investing/trading experience than I do. However, I do know that there are two sides to every story. We have yet to learn the complete reasoning and circumstances from APT's perspective. I am not posting to change your mind but rather to give an alternative look at some of your assertions.
I have read your post asserting that you think the worst of companies. But, what if we as investors, by way of our DD, actually thought the best of a company in regard to the risk/reward for investing/trading? What if we thought the best of APT and thus viewed this Iron deal as an unfortunate but most assuredly necessary and more importantly temporary disruption to our ability to profit?
You and I have opposing views on this company. You have the Iron debt deal as your smoking gun. I have looked at the totality of the circumstances and made the informed decision to think the best and invest my hard earned blue collar money. I have done this, despite my account looking rough over the last two weeks. I will continue to do this as long as the evidence shows that it is wise for me to do so.
I do not want anyone to suffer in regard to this venture. I think you probably care more than you let on in your post when you say you don't care if anyone loses their money. I do not have anyone on "ignore" and I read each post you write. Pondering alternate perspectives is often needed to balance and learn from one another. I don't think "B" works for APT but it would be very wise of them to hire him in the future!! I would buy even more shares ha!
Lastly, APT is in my opinion like my first car ('67 Camaro) when I use to power brake it and the wheels were spinning... the brakes will get released one of these days!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Respectfully,
Simpleman
Hey Joma, I don't post very often but still here since early March.
Big TT, you don't know me or my short history here but since you asked. Here is my synopsis--I've bought shares starting in early March. I have consistently added to my position. If I were walking in to this situation right now (as I presume you are) I would be better off taking every cent I invested thus far and buying today! So, consider this a gift. Buy me a margarita some time in Vegas when we are all much wealthier. ha... I have full faith and confidence in my investment... And right now I'm in the red..and I still feel very strong. The links, info, discussions, etc are all there to read but we are coming down to what I consider to be the bottom. I wish I had stumbled in to this right this instant as you are.. good to have you on the board!
B, JJ, CD, VLF, Big A, PB et al, with this lull in the board and the tough number of days we have had I wanted to reach out and thank you all for aiding in my education and continued faith in this investment. I think the revealed sponsorships (NHRA, World of Outlaws) are such a huge facet of what most assuredly is a strong, well thought out, coordinated business strategy to take APT to levels far exceeding expectations.
Now we are talking Sonicflow technology in to space exploration possibilities? These revelations are going mostly unnoticed by many but I wanted to let you all know that I am sure there are many new investors much like me that are watching, learning, and reading daily. Thanks for helping us out with sharing your experience and time. My red thus far is merely a "tuition loan" to cyberspace that will be paid back to me with much interest once we snatch the pebble from the hands of the MM's.
Respectfully,
Simpleman
Copy that, thx JJ
JJ, in your experience is there any collaboration with the folks at the OTCBB.com and a given company in regard to when the change will be posted on the daily list? Obviously in the example with spl? the company had the info in advance of the daily list posting and thus put it out in a PR. I am slowly learning the nuances to this situation and this is yet another example of something that could impact day to day decisions.
Bjaz and Pats, sounds like a system problem. I'm sure they will have it worked out. Sunday mornings typical maintenance, IT update time ... Ill check back in later tonight with y'all
Well, if they don't have it up and running I must take it as a sign that my "long" strategy of holding with that KFG is just meant to be!! ha
Big A, I like your style! Maybe because I need shocks too but on my 95 chevy truck or because we both missed the hunch last week and thus held our APT for the long haul.. I read the FROZ board most days while I'm in pocket and appreciate the banter as well. My hunch is we are going to do well holding our shares in this one!
Bjaz, my TDA is "unavailable" too???
Xevian, I am glad to hear you all are physically safe. Do you all have a safe place to stay?
B, the April 30th date certainly would fit those email responses from Mr. Knopick that seemed to repetitively say we would get an update "at the appropriate time". How more appropriate could we get than April 30th... If this plays out this way then this management team is as smooth as Ice Blue Aqua Velva!!!!
I agree Bjazi, I even got on facebook to try and reach out to B!! had to ask my wife for the password to login... I thought I was going to have to call some friends ha
Bunduru, I always look forward to your insight!! As the saying goes, "I hate being bipolar, its awesome" ha... APT will rise soon enough!!
I think we all need to take a breath! We know the ending to this movie with FROZ. It will end with us investors making money on the APT "sequel" that is due out soon and we already have our ticket! Look at the DD in the intro!! (Thx again B!!!) Amazing. I feel the red with many of you on here and it is hard to bleed but we are barely getting started. Apply direct pressure and drive on!!!
I am learning that days in OTC are like doggy years but have Faith folks. Have Faith in this company and that we will grow, expand, profit, meet in Vegas etc. There are a lot of really smart investors involved and savvy individuals with APT. We all know who they are and I have been watching and my Faith is strong. If we can make money along with an American based company and show them Faith as a group of core investors then this is truly a blessing from days gone by!
Ms. Bunduru, this could break open any day depending on, as you have most poignantly pointed out, the upcoming FINRA formality re the ticker change. What exciting times for us!!!
Big A, it is a good version.. I am still a little partial to the Skynyrd original but I am an old timer ha. Our FROZ/APT is the only stock I've been sharing. I even looked at some of the Motovox products at my local PepBoys. It was very encouraging being able to see the actual product in person. It just solidified my adding each week to my position for the last 4 weeks. Solid venture for us here. They had me at hello but then I saw that pic of the Chevelle in the parking lot and I was all in ha!!!
Strong position Stocker!!!!
That is good to hear UMD. We may all take a good step back in time with the transparent way APT does business. Taking us back a bit when folks shook hands would definately fit our APT. With the emphasis on Smartcarb technology and the down to earth mission statement; which includes the mention of family and us as shareholders, I am very hopeful that we are in for a profitable blast from the past in this.
Hey thanks Big A, nothing like a little Lynyrd Skynyrd Simpleman or for my younger compadres Shinedown did a good remake too. It is a great tune for all our ATP'ers!!!! Good solid company fundamentals (more to some with the fins) and old fashioned honest business with ATP. We are building a formidable good cadre of folks on this one. I am proud to be a part of this with you all.
Also, thanks Penny7 on the PM. Good to hear from you!
What a day for us to reflect and a good day for me to tell all you guys and our known lady Bunduru thanks for the insights you all provide. I do not have PM but thanks for the mark Big A! I follow regularly and every so often my excitement at APT's future results in an awkwardly written post; sounding like a high school kid on a date with the prom queen. Happy Easter to you all and thanks again for all the DD, Ibox, share count, encouragement etc.
Simpleman4
Capital, the Smartcarb is incredible and should not in any way be underestimated. It will be key to our growing success. I do agree with your sentiment regarding the Sonicflow. I know it is a "down the road" revenue generator but for those of us truly holding longer term with our investment it is key to the growth possibilities of APT.
Once folks truly put APT's patent technology of the Samrtcarb and Sonicflow in to perspective we are going to be off to the races. No pun intended ha. I have a strong feeling that some upcoming PR's will undoubtedly help folks gain that perspective!
Thanks for the patent links!
Honda is a recurrent theme on the revealing layers of APT. That is most encouraging. I try not to get too excited about all the partnership and contract possibilities, military/drone connect, Motovox sales, Smartcarb patent technology, sonic flow engine durability testing beginning...
With all this DD you are bringing here I really think that folks not following closely will be caught off guard with the true scope and vision of APT.
I am patiently waiting for the ticker change and the PR's to begin.
Awesome info bsd!!!!!!!!!!!!!! thx for your work. Happy Easter my friend.
bsd, that is strong work my friend!! I cannot PM and no FB so here it goes--I know you are trying to keep it in executive summary format. I would just wonder if a cool blurb and picture of that sonic flow engine would be a good eye catcher. It is a pretty nifty pic and aspect of potential future revs! Your work is awesome!!!
I'm impressed.
Respectfully,
Simpleman
Happy Easter to you too JJ. Thanks for you and all the other experienced FROZ folks on here who help out and keep it grounded.
Copy that, thanks for the clarification Bunduru. For an old engine guy, looking at that smartcarb technology gets me all revved up. ha
Good find Bunduru, those are definately new! I've scoured the website and those pages were not on there previously.
Good copy.
bsd, I know you have had commo with ATP VP's. I hope they know how strong we support them and what type of folks are investing their hard earned $$. Big A driving a GMC, I have a 95 Chevy Truck folks dreaming of muscle cars etc... I thank you for your hard work and maturity in helping us all stay on point. Many others to thank as well!! One question for all my fellow longs: once the ticker change is completed and announced do you believe they will begin to PR things or wait until the fins are filed to begin to release what I believe to be is a stack of upcoming catalysts?
Big Chew and Bsdvs, I also woke to handle things and now I am wide awake at the possibilities of APT in this regard. I was already smiling at the DD that our main man bsdvs has done for us (we now have official Marine protection for our investment..) thanks so much my friend and then I read Big Chew's message and I am in tears.
I was watching a documentary show Vice last night and they were tracking the Greenland ice melt. Stick with me here it is relevant--they had a NASA engineer/scientist/"objective" expert stating that the only way for us to slow the tide of the ice melt is to reduce our emissions by 80%. Does 80% fewer emissions ring a bell? Can you say Smartcarb!!!!!!!!!! When a large media outlet gets a hold of this parallel we are off to the drags!
Strong work Money Maker. Are you ok for this to be copy and pasted on other boards in furtherance of getting the word out about our APT?
Respectfully