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Haha, ok this is for Stronghands and the "I told you so".
All bold statements below are in MY OPINION about Stevia Corp.
Hopefully this don't get to nasty on the boards and I'm not going to talk about these topics again. This is the only long penny I own.
1. STEV is not the distillery. They cannot at this time isolate the 85 or more different cannibonids. That was EBBU claiming technology.
- STEV most likely will do an C02 extraction of hemp flowers to gather hemp oils mostly containing Cbd.
2. EBBU is out of the picture.
3. STEV is growing hemp in 2 or more greenhouses.
4. STEV did a small trial run in those green houses. No hemp fields yet!
5. STEV did not use the proper genetics starting with seeds that allow for higher cbd parent plants. An example of one of many strains is charlottes web.
6. No products on realhemp site until 2015.
My predictions for 2015 or what I would do.
1. STEV will not pr and pump this stock again until 2015.
2. STEV feels more confident in the hemp revolution. Hemp future sales in 2016 could outgrow stevia.
3. STEV will dilute more shares. : (
4. STEV will keep the greenhouses for controlled environments and get some good genetics. If they want good hemp oil as one of the products this is the best way. Cone females clone females clone females because seeds are expensive.
5. STEV will announce expansion of hemp and will grow on 50ha or more. These seeds will be cheap, easy to grow, and mostly made for industrial hemp. Cloth, paper, seeds, ect.
6. Winter 2015 real hemp will finally have products. Or products that are "in stock".
7. At the end of 2015 STEV could be in the dollar range. If the pump is big enough in spring we could see it sooner. Depends on how big the news is and how much more George wants to feed his big stomach.
Good luck and have fun!
I hope so and that's why I am still here. STEV is still my fav mj play.
I will state facts and any problems I see with any stock.
Everything I said about STEV is still a concern of mine but it looks like we won't know the truth for a little bit here.
I will say this now. I told you so!
You are correct hemp was not allowed for farming in the states. Some states may have this education purposes law now but its only a matter of time until we can grow it again. That's why George is over seas.
I was interested a few years back and wanted to buy 10 acres in Illinois.
Haha I agree panzer... It sounds good.
I thought it was obvious.
I doubt the fact that stronghands has friends.
I highly doubt that!
If this hits $1.50 I'm down!
Atdf keeps moving on the bid. .0851
If that happens he could buy a few tanks.
You got like 2-4 mil shares now?
You enjoy your day too. Btw with no "thc" I would rethink what you said.
Smoking some cbd oil through my vape. Tastes pretty good and I feel like it works.
Happy to spend $50
http://canibdol.com/epiq-vap.html
Should of been from realhemp.com!
I thought they would of been at this stage already. I guess not huh George!
I don't know why you keep buying so many shares. Maybe you will get the last laugh.
Are we still pro for stevia+cocaine+$6.25= Las Vegas? Haha
Says who? In the interview I agreed with lots of things he said.
Yeah he pumped STEV. So did penny, boom man, and lots of other people.
But It was MY fault I didn't sell my STEV for huge profits after he pumped this stock in the beginning of the year.
Look at it this way at least he still likes STEV and most people will agree. Just don't show in the pps obviously.
We all feel another big pump coming. I bet George is waiting till 2015 but it's going to get scary again with the pps. I don't like it either. If George sells more shares I'm gone because he should have more than enough money now. Also I don't like ceo's who are eating good off of my dollar with their stomachs sticking out! You gotta work on that boss...
I look at it on the bright side and think my taxes will be much cheaper when I go to sell In my dollar range.
Well diluting in my eyes is someone who is selling shares and is not motivated to buy them back. So Puma is on the bid at .01. STEV will prob never see .01.
Puma sold around 115,000 shares yesterday I believe at .0845 and I think got a few in today around .0835.
Wasn't so obvious today. I also sleep during the day.
It could very well be someone playing games but we will see how many shares they have. Puma didn't fight to hard to sell today. Which means they want the highest price for the shares.
Also I don't know much about Puma. Here is the site maybe you can tell me more.
http://pumacap.com/about.html
About us
Puma Capital, LLC (PUMA), is a registered broker-dealer, member of FINRA, wholesale equity market maker trading primarily Over-The-Counter securities. Our current product mix focuses on Distressed and Special Situation, Foreign (including ADR’s and Ordinary shares), and domestic over the counter equities.
I see three shorts. Nite, csti, and cdel. Puma is diluting and now wants .0835. Right now I see a sell off war going on. Remember shorts still need to buy back. I wonder who the ax is?
It's not going to close above 1.8% green if puma stays on the ask all day. So far it looks like puma sold 117,433 on the ask. Puma is also on the bid at .01. Hmmmmm
Sure you can sell the rest of the plant. Paper, clothes, rope many use! Cbd is where the value is at.
That's the problem! I am educated guessing because of false information and delayed pr's.
Remember when everyone thought the realhemp site was going to launch in July! Ask penny and boom man. Then next month and another month. Then we get swooped with a lame information website way late in sept.
I'm the only one on this board that even noticed George standing in a green house next to hemp plants. In the picture it looks like two of them back to back. This is good and bad. Good because they can control the environment and bad because I don't think they are growing that much. I thought they would have a field. At least an acre! If that's the plan in 2015 then we could be here for awhile waiting for our money back.
I don't know how I have to explain this to you again. The article is key telling you EBBU is the distillery. That's the only way I know how to isolate the 85 or more cannibonids STEV was bragging about this in the first pr with EBBU. They acted like they had that technology to isolate cannibonids. Right? If they don't then why even mention it! They prob just supply cbd oil from the hemp plant. That's it.
Ya the kit in the Amazon link is a joke but it's an example on how I can even pull off an extraction on the cheap end. The co2 extraction isn't ground breaking either its common. What is ground breaking is what EBBU hopes to do with distilling cbd oil pulling out specific cannibonids. That's what I thought I invested my money in because STEV made it sound like it. I'm sure everyone here thought that right? Very deceiving!
I think many people invested in this stock are in denial about the hemp section of STEV. I was! No harvest numbers and no products! However I'm still going to hold my 360k shares only because the stevia end is doing well. However I don't think stevia alone will bring this to dollar land the way some traders play this stock and company selling shares.
Hopefully our numbers look great when financials come. We will see.
Btw imo the last pr was a joke. It was another fluff with George saying here is a crap pr and I promise they will get better. Well boss you already deceived me a few times that don't fly in my book.
I'm pretty sure rsho is overpriced junk not even taken from hemp flowers.
Here is another decent cbd site.
http://www.hollandhemp.com/#!online-store/c20le/!/Holland-Hemp-Honey-CBD-Bees-Wax/p/42697838/category=10901179
Here is a website with a bunch of products that I bet you don't even know about. Legit and not $300-$500!
http://canibdol.com/home.html?m
Adam show me this pure cbd you speak of? I have a very good idea of what I'm talking about. Mark this post! Anything even in the 85% pure cbd?
George did not say anything in the press release about the purity. Just like in the EBBU fluff press release.
Here is how I think they are doing it.
http://www.projectcbd.org/products/concentrates/
The one method was the Amazon link.
I have a feeling they are using the co2 method to get the cbd oil they are pulling from the hemp flowers.
Btw who wants pure cbd? You want the other cannibonids with it. Just more of the cbd is best. EBBU was controlling the amount of different cannibonids to give different effects.
I'm not selling for another few months btw.
Correct I am pretty sure they only supply cbd oil in bulk. Which is still awesome but we need lots of it.
Hey dude I'm trying to help everyone here so we can confront George so it sounds like we know a thing or two. I could keep this to myself. And no I'm not trying to short here.
https://marketfy.com/content/45691-interview-with-ebbu-ceo-dooma-wendschuh-by-420-inv
The link to the interview. You prob can't view it unless your subscribed.
Here one of many kits online to make oil. Thc/cbd it's the same thing when you extract all the contents out of the flowers.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00GHAEJ4U/ref=pd_aw_sbs_2?pi=SS115&simLd=1
Now again there are different ways of doing this. Even safer extraction methods. From the press release it sounds like they just took hemp flowers and extracted all of the cannibonids to make cbd oil.
Yes lots of money to still be made "if" you have good seeds with 20% cbd content. We don't know what George has or how much. However I thought that was a huge game changer for STEV when they made it sound like STEV could isolate the cannibonids. I thought that's why EBBU wanted them and they won't be the only ones.
So now imo with EBBU being the distillery which I also do while getting paid for a living! STEV was only making themselves sound good off of EBBU technology. False advertisement!
So now I can also assume EBBU don't really need STEV unless they need lots of bulk cbd oil. EBBU is also in Colorado right? They can easily grow their own. It was all fluff if you ask me.
Your welcome!
So I found an interview that Ab had with EBBU in April. It seems like EBBU was the distillery! So it appears by the cbd press release all STEV can do is the basic oil extraction that I can buy a kit for on Amazon and do in my backyard. Yeah there are different ways to to oil extractions but not a big deal and most are effective. What is a big deal is STEV can't do the distillery part with the "technology" STEV bragged about.
I feel like I was lied to in the press releases. I think we need to look into this and make a few phone calls! I should not be the only one concerned about this! EBBU can easily get cbd or thc oil from anyone. I bet the deal is off between STEV and EBBU.
That's one reason why they have nothing to brag about! This is all Imo.
Happy to see so much volume!
Go STEV
Did you get left behind?
I was thinking the same. Someone didn't wake up in time this morning.
Why would you say that?We support hemp in Stev! It's legal to sell cbd in every state I believe. How long will this grey area last idk. But hemp in the masses will make us rich at this pps. George just needs to pull this off and I think he can. He's doing it with stevia! He has thought about the 1,000ha in the game plan right? Do the math dude. I'm just tired of waiting and want to see a steady incline in pps. I don't care if it's 3% or 5% a day.
However if it pumps we know how fast it moved last time. When I bought my shares in February. I alone moved this stock from .10 to .115. The next day it jump a lot and boy did I time my entry perfect. My exit just never happened and I learned my lesson. Could of shorted an had 5 times as many shares as I do now but it happens.
I would love to be doing some cheap cbd dabs right now for my anxiety. Who's with me?
Boom!
Depends on how much cbd we have. If any. It's top secret!
The had all year to develop!
Like In my previous post they were supposed to have products in July.
Look at the vol for h#mp... That's a pos. Yet Stev can't even break 1mil in the longest time.
I was hoping for a slow uptrend since sept. Didn't happen.
On another note It would be awesome if they announce news about 1,000 ha of stevia/hemp in Jan. I can dream!
Imo the hemp plant can be worth just as much as a THC plant. Where stev is they could grow hemp in the masses!
I decided to look into the facts and key points again and share my thoughts. Since this is all we have to go by for a long time now.
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02/26/2014 Stevia Corp. Signs Consulting Agreement for Identification and Extraction of Cannabinoids From Cannabis
- ebbu utilizes chemistry and proprietary formulations to deliver consistent dosages of identified cannabinoids resulting in consistent emotional feelings or moods by the user. By branding the various moods, such as 'Chill' or 'Giggles' the products are easy to understand and all the consumer needs to know is how they want to feel.
With expertise developed while working with the stevia plant and applying proprietary processes to breed and extract the plant's medicinal properties for use in feed additives, Stevia Corp will work with ebbu to scale commercial extraction of identified cannabinoids. Extraction is the crucial first step in the analysis of medicinal plants and the production of targeted products. Proprietary processes then isolate the desired compounds to achieve purity, quality, consistency and effectiveness. The resulting compounds can then be used in a range of products from foods to cosmetics to pharmaceuticals. Scaling the extraction process from prototype to commercial operation requires specialized knowledge and skill that Stevia Corp will provide to ebbu.
The cannabis plant produces many chemical compounds called cannabinoids. There are more than 85 different cannabinoids that have been identified and isolated from the cannabis plant that exhibit varied effects and many of these are now being studied for their medical properties. ebbu's proprietary processes will enable it to cost effectively isolate and purify targeted compounds enabling ebbu to both formulate its own retail brands as well as become a major supplier of purified compounds to the medical industry and others.
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Ok so my take on this is that they can somehow seperate the 85 different cannabinoids from the hemp plant for ebbu right? or is it just ebbu with the special process?
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03/05/2014 Stevia Corp. Registers Wholly Owned US Subsidiary, Real Hemp LLC
George Blankenbaker, Stevia Corp President, comments, "The growth in the hemp market is being fueled by the increased public knowledge of hemp and its many benefits and the market will continue to grow as more public awareness occurs. I am currently in Asia where more than 70% of the world hemp supply is grown, working with my team to confirm quality suppliers and products. We have identified at least three products lines and will focus on having initial product in the US during the next quarter ending June 30, 2014."
Mr. Blankenbaker adds, "Even with all the known benefits of hemp, I believe the long-term hidden value is the cannabinoid content. Although hemp is bred to produce low levels of THC, it still produces all of the other known cannabinoids common to medical marijuana, many of which are being studied for their effectiveness against cancer and other diseases. I believe continuing to leverage our current experience and expertise gained working with stevia to identify and extract specific compounds will lead to substantial value working with hemp long-term."
On February 26, 2014, the Company announced a consulting agreement with Colorado-based ebbu for the identification and extraction of cannabinoids from cannabis.
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So June is long gone and we dont even have products on our website? Again they mention the identification and extraction of cannabinoids.
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05/07/2014 Stevia Corp.'s Subsidiary Completes Successful Extraction of Cannabidiol (CBD) From Industrial Hemp in Laboratory
"Stevia Corp" or the "Company"), an international farm management company focused on the economic development of products that support a healthy lifestyle, including stevia and hemp, is pleased to announce the Company's Hong Kong subsidiary, Stevia Technew Ltd, has successfully extracted cannabidiol (CBD) from industrial hemp grown in China where 70% of the world's hemp supply is grown. Leveraging the Company's experience extracting and refining steviol glycosides from the stevia plant, Stevia Technew intends to work with local partners to transition CBD extraction from laboratory to commercial scale production.
CBD is one of at least 85 cannabinoids (chemical compounds found in both industrial hemp and marijuana) and is the major constituent in industrial hemp plants. Hundreds of scientific studies have demonstrated CBD's potential in addressing a wide range of serious conditions, including rheumatoid arthritis, diabetes, chronic pain, schizophrenia, PTSD, epilepsy, Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, HIV dementia and many others. CBD is also non-psychoactive and avoids toxicity that is encountered with psychoactive cannabinoids at high doses.
George Blankenbaker, Stevia Corp President, commented, "It is still illegal to grow industrial hemp in the US for commercial purposes so our Hong Kong subsidiary will continue leveraging its relationships in Asia where the China government is targeting to increase production of hemp to more than 3 million acres and is developing advanced technologies for the commercialization of hemp products. Working with its partners in Asia, our subsidiary has access to the largest source of hemp with the ability to breed even more efficient varieties while leveraging existing extraction facilities."
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My take on this is not good. And this is where i get nervous. They only could extract cbd from their hemp. What about all the other different 85 cannabinoids you could of isolated for ebbu. It sounds like they just did a basic extraction creating oil in which i can buy a kit on amazon and do that. Im not impressed. Show results of this awesome extraction system you have that ebbu wanted so bad! Didn't it clearly state they could do so? Here they also mentioned the ability to breed more efficient varieties so i can only assume they started out with shit genetics. Good high producing cbd seeds are already available on the net with 20% cbd ratio. Why are they taking their time with this. Even if they didn't want to spend so much money on lets say 10,000 high priced seeds they could still clone pretty fast with the hemp plant. It really makes me question their ability to pull this off.
So now its past harvest time and we have no products, no knowledge of how much hemp they grew or what strain. Im hoping for the best with some really big news and lots of it.
Well Ebbu I know nothing about. Ebbu is private I believe. That was just Stev saying they have a contract right? That can fall through very fast.
Hemp site was released late and then they decided to just release a basic info site. I have seen that before.
We do not know anything about the hemp grow. Like I stated before it looks like they are in a greenhouse on the Facebook picture. So how big is the green house? We could be talking about something very small! Is there a field next to it? What strain? Basic hemp plant will prob not give us the numbers we want. So you want me to trust the company for another year? What method of extraction are they using? They make it sound impressive but I need to know how. I can buy an extraction kit on amazon for $150. I need to be impressed!
All I see are the stevia numbers...
Have you seen In the soup numbers? How are they doing?
Is it that hard to even make a pr on
how many tons of hemp was harvested just to get more interest. Comeon. In the states harvest is done. Maybe they are extending the grow with their longer season. I don't know.
You can hide from these good questions on faith.
To many unanswered questions about stev. I can tell you were I think our money went but it could be a lie.
I always learn new lessons in penny's. I thought stev was different. It's not. It was pumped in feb and dumped on hard. CEO keeps us in the dark. Blah blah
Like all pump and dumps stick around and wait for the next pump maybe in 2015 when our CEO needs more money for another hemp grow. We could see .06 or way lower. Good luck!
Adtf is on the bid now at .0817 and ask at .09.... Hmmmm
Why? The L2 shows mostly buys on the ask. If anything nite is playing smart so it's not that big of a deal. This was a good day if you ask me. We are showing strong support.
I'm banking on that. Plus by then I will be in the lower tax bracket in feb 2015. Unless my number hits. $1.5 never know STEV moves easy. It went up 13% yesterday like a fart in the wind. Gl shorts
$erbb over what a couple vending machines. Enjoy your millions! Sigh