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The demand is in the volume. The LII has not been depopulated on the bid side. You are right that the demand is lower and has been trending lower as far as bid price goes. Some people are getting nervous or impatient, some people are trying to average down, some people are trying to flip, some people are trying to sell and rebuy at lower prices. And of course we have our friend OTCX and I can only guess what he is up to, but it isn't good for us. BUT there is long term confidence in the company and several posters have declared that they would be buying heavily, with the caveat , that once the pps got back down to a certain level, which actually pissed me off, but thye story behind that is that there is confidence that the price is going to go back up significantly so that there will be good profits coming.
NO DEMAND FOR SHARES!?-HOGWASH, we did over a million yesterday. In fact, volume has been way over what it has historically run except for the couple of big run ups that happened in the past in anticipation of 2 huge international deals that were in the works. One with aq railroad contract and the other was with the Niger truck deal. Also in the past there were a handful of instances where we were pretty darned sure that shares came off of restriction and were sold. Like when one of the CFO's left the company after returning from China during the Niger deal. Some of us thought also that some restricted shares entered the market after coming off restriction so that certain people could finally get a paycheck, as Lee had given certain folks shares, restricted, instead of a salary. BUT, That was in the past and I really don't see that happening now.
we really need Level 3 insight here. Perhaps Dark Pool too....We need shares and cash and willing ness to fight this off. I do not believe that this is all because people are throwing in the towel and cashing out. There may be some people that bought in early at lower levels that are getting nervous and are deciding to take profits and that is all due to the manipulation that is going on, psychological and economic warfare. Longs have held on through many dips and lows, we all believe and actually are pretty sure tis little company is going to sky rocket into silver and change exchanges and one day be on the NYSE. Lee keeps trying and God love him comes up with some pretty good ideas and plans to grow the business, have faith, it is paying off, we have made a lot of progress from where the company started.
I may be dead wrong, but I think there is some shenanigans going on here. I think there is at least one bad faith actor in the mix, maybe two working to bring us down to some desired price, perhaps 0.01 or as low as they can take it before some substantive news comes out from AMMX. Will we see another Form T trades today? I don't like what is going on either, but it takes several proactive people to fight back against this kind of thing. I don't have the money to buy. I have tried putting up shares to put up a wall, but that didn't work real well. I wish Orca was around to help fight this guy or guys off like we did a week ago.
Now a 1000 share red paint job to bring us down to 0.0173....and more trades going on that don't show on the LII
I would not doubt for a second that OCTX is playing games.....It might be best if someone just took out his shares again so he will go away.
What is going on!? There have been several sizeable trades at 0.0173 that never appeared on the bid or ask on LII.
There was something else I was thinking about this weekend with respect to the Wild Fires in CA and elsewhere in conjunction with AMMX and the equipment demo's. The equipment isn't really fire fighting equipment for an active fire now is it? It is great equipment for mastication, clearing deadfall and brush for aid in preventing wild fires and the easy spread of active fires. Maybe these folks have plans to purchase but right now are focused on things to fight the active fires.
Don't lose all hope just yet. Most of these types of deals take 6-8 weeks for the purchasing process to get to the point where someone or some body of people gets to consider it and then approve it. Also we won't know until it is a done deal, meaning that everything is approved and signed and a delivery date set.
As far as other things, what did AMMX say as a projection, I believe we are waiting for mid August, unless news of some other sale comes through. I believe we are waiting for fins reports, audit progress, etc. Don't worry, be happy...
140 square miles on fire, good gracious, it is already out of control. Any news re AMMX anywhere in sight???
To Zig Zag and Makingamillion, President Trump has declared CA a disaster area, that may be a good thing in terms of streamlining emergency purchases of equipment by cutting a lot of red tape and lighting a fire under some pencil pushers and bureaucrat's behinds! Let's hope so and see what happens now!
I changed my order and it's not showing anymore, must have changed MM's and is probably hidden under 0.0199......
I am watching LII. Now how can we screw up the ALGO??
yeah, really. we were flirting with 0.036 now we are flirting with 0.018....upsetting and disappointing for sure.
3 quick trades jusr came through and we are back at 0.02
I se that S.O.B. is back today, he stayed away yesterday, but he is currently on the ask.
AND where are all these trades at 0.018 coming from, I did not see that on LII? Another thing, who has a platform that allows you to enter a price like 0.01799???? Could that be other than retail or a private investor like us? Could it be a MM? Are these 0.018's and 0.01799"s coming from GTC and AON orders that don't show on LII???
Can some of you guys look at the various charts that you will find on the AMMX Detailed Quote page, click on the Charts tab, I amy be wrong but it looks to me that the MACD is turning and that a BUY signal is approaching fast. Now with some material good news we should have a strong retrace, IMHO. What do you think. What are your trading software analysis saying?
I'm back, ran out to the store. Gman, I am trying to do more of the things I used to do in an effort to stimulate conversation on the board and encourage people to share information , opinions and thoughts about AMMX etc. Naturally I hope to find something relevant that can help us. It may be a waste of time and effort, but right now I don't feel that way and I do not want our members to get discouraged. This period is worrisome enough without pouring gasoline on the fire by being silent or negative. So forgive me.
Just looking and hoping to stumble upon some clues....we had a board member that had uncovered some interesting stuff back during the Niger deal. At least it gave us something more to talk about and some factors to take into consideration.
True as far as an official company press release goes, but the company could be referenced in another article of some kind, like Seeking Alpha or something like that. Perhaps an op ed about the fires and any plans to increase prevention, purchase new equipment etc. even if AMMX is not specifically mentioned by name.
I keep checking for company PR, nothing out yet. Maybe I should do a broader news search for company.
Good Morning to you too. I am late getting getting up this morning. I don't feel so good. Need my coffee and meds etc. We are having a family crisis, so I don't think I will be much today. I do not see our "friend" on the LII.....that's a good thing.
Too be sure there has to be a market. However, there are some loopholes, dirty tricks and cover of some regulations that a malevolent person can work within to influence the market, it takes money, shares, time and a plan. My LII platform does not allow me to see the depth of any particular MM's bids or asks, it only allows me to see the highest bid and ask of any individual MM. That level is actually called LIII I believe and it can reveal more readily in detail what each MM is up to. MM's can trade with it not appearing on the LII, they do not have to report the transactions in realtime as they occur but can do it after the market closes or the next day. There is also the matter of form t trades. Our "friend" is doing a few things and has not just been flipping as soon as he has acquired some shares. He has also been low balling the bids and he has been driving the ASK down from both sides. I do not know if it was this same guy but there has been at least one if not several FormT trades recently, something that we almost never have seen at AMMX.There is only so much we can do to discourage him. Today, I think we were successful. He ultimately sold his shares, but, he only made 10 bucks assuming there were no trading fee's or commissions. When these guysd get the message that we are fighting back and they can't make a quick kill, they tend to either go away or they start to behave in a more decent fashion.
P.S. You can send fan mail to OTCX at https://www.otcxtrading.com/
It may take a day or even a few days, but if we stand firm on the red line of 0.02 bare minimum, with only very small volumes being sold under that, I think investors will feel better about moving the bids up, of course that is my own biased but informed opinion. I mean who wants to buy in to something then very quickly show a significant loss? Right? We all know that there is a certain amount of risk as with any stock, but when you have a jerk that wants to f things up on purpose to drive the price down and is willing to undercut everyones ASK by 0.003 or 0.oo5 or even as much as 0.01 on a stock that is normaly ging at o.o25 it doesn't take much to drive everything down, that is what otcx has been up to for about 3 weeks, that's about how long he's been showing up on the LII for AMMX as far as I remember, maybe less. But we can fight him and minimize his BS and damage. I think we may be on the road to recovery and retrace now as a matter of normal trading. We'll see in the next few days. ORCA is right, don't sell to him. if you need to know what the LII says, just ask us.
That is true and is normal, but the situation has been aggravated by one toxic player, who we are now well aware of and are monitoring on the LII. We beat him up this morning, read further down the board and you'll see who and what Orca and I are talking about. I'm just glad Orca was able to steal his shares from him, between us we beat his ask price all the way down to the point he only made 10 bucks on his 50k shares he bought yesterday at 0.0185. To be sure stay tuned and watch this guy who has a bad rep as a notorious flipper. I bet it killed him to hold the shares over night, LOL....
I don't have my trading platform open, is he still trying to get 14K shares for 0.018x????
ETRF has a good wall up at 0.022, so I am going to pull my ask for now. I'm too bored top watch this and have other things I need to do. I'll check in later...
I know, too funny, he started out on the ask this morning over 0.022.....I dicked him around all morning using diff MM's and diff volumes....in the end he could not let me sell my 10 cheaper than his 50K even at the same price....
He's a schmuck, standing now on 0.0189 with his 50k shares he stands to make $20.00.....lol, I hope he has fee's to pay...No, he dropped to 0.0187 and someone took him out, he made a whole $10 bucks....LOL!!!!!
I've been dueling with him all morning until someone hit at 0.019, I think I was at 0.0191, I yanked my shares back in....now he is back asking 0.0219.....
Too funny, I put 10k on the ask @ 0.0199 and he instantly dropped his 50k to 0.0198!!!! BTW he is also top bid , 14K @ 0.0182
I have a suspicion that the sentiment is held by many including the major MM's. I chased him down on the ask and thinking of doing it again as he raised his ask back up, I think the only way to fight this guy is to force him to drop his asks down to close to his purchase price so he can't make a decent profit. His current 50K shares he has on the ask for 0.0219 he bought yesterday for 0.0185, I think I am going to put some shares up at 0.019, LOL.....
From the looks of the LII and the stand off between bid and ask I think we may have made some progress in getting that smell out of the water, the bleeding may be stopped today. Of course it's still early and all the MM's except otcx are standing firm and significantly over 0.02.
Good Morning, in case you missed the open, OTCX is on the ask with those 50K shares, I've been playing games with him and forced him to drop his ask several times, down to 0.0199....
I'd add too, if I could afford it and if some folks want to give it away, well that's their loss....eventually. It just hurts short term watching the capitulation to such low bids...today there was a lot of resistance to the drop. until the closing 10 or 15 minutes. I believe it was a total of 2 trades one for 50k and one for 70 orm 75k shares one to OTCX and etrf I think, but OTCX turned around and put the 50k on the ASK and then had to drop his ask two or 3 times. I think he got stuck holding them at least until tomorrow. He got them at 0.0185....I wonder what he'll ask for them tomorrow since 0.0199 didn't do it.
If we can get the smell of blood out of the water......
Did you guys just see that, someone capitulated and sOLD OCTX 50K shares @ 0.0185 and in an instant he turned around and put the 50 K shares on the ASK @ 0.02 now at 0.0195.....
I suspect that there are some small orders sitting at 0.02 that are not appearing on LII on the bid because they are all under 10K shares....
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