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hiker: By the way, what type of horse is Shiner Bock brewed through anyway?...gg
hiker: No offense, I prefer Rocky Mountain Bear piss, I drink Keystone Lite almost fozen when I drink, which isn't very often now days.
Generic: All I posted was the youtube link...
rr: http://www.lonestarbeer.com/LoneStar.aspx
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Lone Star - The Beer
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rr: I posted the below response to “clem” twice on the SEC Charges thread, but poof it was instantly removed each time...LOL
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=38130022
ajtj: Steve1 over on the SEC Charges thread provided direct links...
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=38127796
Steve1: Thanks...
sidedraft: I've already been there and I could not find a single hyper link to one of ADVFN's other sites. Maybe I am just having a bad day.
So, could would post a direct link....TIA
ajtj: http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=38127378
ADVFN.COM is redirected to iHub...seems very odd to me!
Can anyone provide "actual" links to ADVFN's other financial websites around the globe?
ajtj: I suspect ADVFN is taking its cue from Bob Z with respect on how to handle this debacle regarding the accusations and charges Matt and others used iHub to perpetrate "pump and dump" scams.
Bob Z was and remains in denial as to why SI is a shell of its former self. Migration to and from a message board does not happen overnight. Folks will begin to migrate away from a board they no longer trust or feel is unfair. By the time ADVFN realizes their lack of action was the wrong course, it will be too late to resurrect iHub from the dead. iHub will join SI as a message board graveyard.
Personally I would love to see the SEC and DOJ campout for a while at iHub as I suspect the majority of the scamsters here still feel pretty immune to prosecution.
Maybe a few more Texas DPS officers need to get involved to motivate the Feds...sigh!
Bob: Was this you as “SI Bob” in this series of RB posts?
Raging Bull posts in 2007. Click on the link and then to follow the conversation keep clicking on "Newer" in the upper right hand corner...
http://ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=BANMAN%27S&read=24827
Raging Bull posts in 2007. Click on the link and then to follow the conversation keep clicking on "Newer" in the upper right hand corner...
http://ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=BANMAN%27S&read=24827
ONEBGG: Fair enough...
ksquared: I posted a link to what was obviously a crude joke, nothing more nothing less. I would have expected Liberals to take more offense to this part of the joke, "See what happens when aliens breed with sheep?" rather than the April births...LMAO
If I wanted to get into pissing contests, all I'd have to do is post just about anything conservative on the Zeev political thread. That is why I post here, so I will not be dragged into pissing contests.
ONEBGG: So, Liberal chat is now "welcomed" here?
woofer: I admire people like you that can find humor in anything at all.
Opening up with the insults, hey?
I post here because I have no desire to have exchanges with Liberals over politics on iHub. I long ago learned trying to have a reasonable discussion using logic and common sense with the Liberals on iHub that spend the majority of their time on the political threads rather than participating in market discussion is a waste of time. So I vent here...
I suspect you've often “yukked it up” at jokes targeting Bush, Cheney and staff or maybe Sara Palin that made no sense, but then again, that’s OK, because you’re a Liberal and whatever you folks do is OK when it is you doing it.
BullNBear52: What part of "nonsense" don't you understand?
Regardless of the naiveté or stupidity of some, that does not excuse or exonerate criminal behavior by anyone.
BullNBear52: The people who are aiding and abetting are the ones buying the crap because they are too dumb to pay attention.
That is just nonsense...
Phil: I am amazed at just how naive you seem.
That user agreement does not in any way shield iHub from criminal acts. If any of iHub’s staff (volunteers or not) used their positions within the Company to commit or aid and abet criminal acts iHub can and likely will face civil lawsuits. And if it can be determined that the Company exhibited gross (criminal) negligence, the Company could face criminal charges.
BullNBear52: I am well aware of the SEC warnings and have posted links to same several times on a particular pink sheet board on iHub. However, your point has no merit, IMO.
Fools and their money are often soon parted, but that never exonerates criminal acts or those that aid and abet criminals.
Phil: That's a matter of debate, and I suspect that you would lose that debate in court.
In any case, the specific person that posted or deleted certain messages might be liable, but Ihub as a company would not, IMO.
And you are entitled to your opinion.
However, aiding and abetting is a very real criminal charge. If the evidence exist, you can debate all you want, but civil suits and criminal charges could prevail against both individuals and the Company.
The board mods and the mod squad are not paid by Ihub and could not be considered employees.
Do you think if a Candy Striper even accidentally caused injury to someone in a Hospital, the Hospital would not be liable?
Of course now days because of health-care laws and insurance liability, volunteers are often limited to clerical duties, or other activities which don't require direct contact with patients.
Phil: Obviously the hardware and software is not an enabler unless specifically created to do so. However, how the iHub rules are metered out and how iHub is moderated can be civilly and criminally culpable.
Aiding and abetting comes to mind...
janice: Well said...
I've had many private exchanges with Matt over the years. And oddly enough during the time of his alleged wrong doings, I was complaining about iHub's bias in favor of the penny stock pumps and touts. In fact, I complained to Bob Z as well and suggested some things they (SI and iHub) could implement to help protect the naive investors from being taken advantage of. At the time, I just could not understand the resistance to the suggestions.
After reading of the accusations and charges, at first blush I was inclined to blindly support Matt, but after having read all the SEC accusations and DOJ charges, I am left stunned. A lot of the stuff I thought was wrong with iHub and why it was never addressed or the positions taken were so biased is quite frankly beginning to make some sense.
IMO, it is beginning to seem as if iHub may have been created with the conception as a safe haven for penny stock scamsters, a respite for the “Hole in the Cyber Wall Gang” if you will.
I don’t know how stupid these guys were, it doesn’t take much to avoid the SEC as it seems to be deaf, dumb and blind. Just look at the Madoff fiasco. I’ve sent information to the SEC on several occasions with a request to investigate and I finally realized the only thing I could expect was an “automatically generated email reply”.
Keep in mind, the SEC had this handed to them by a chance traffic stop...
woofer: That post was for a hoot, I could care less if they were actually born in April or even nine months later...LOL
You do know this is a Liberal Free Chat Zone? Liberals tend to get the boot here...gg
LOL...check this out...
http://siliconinvestor.advfn.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=25666159
overachiever: The iHub TOS enforcement bias in favor of the pumps and touts seems to me to have gone beyond just one person.
And you are so right about the percentage of convictions of Federal prosecutions. See what this defense lawyer has to say on his website...
http://www.hmichaelsteinberg.com/federalcrimes.htm
I guess this is worth posting here. Be sure to read the thread header...
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/board.aspx?board_id=15452
kkgd: Of course only if Matt pleads or is found guilty. However if so, more than just ADVFN could be named. Criminal acts opens the door for individuals (management, mods, etc) to be named in the suits as well...
Jungle_Trader: It seems to me a real issue facing iHub, SI and ADVFN is the real possibility of future lawsuits to recover losses and damages incurred by members or even just readers of iHub from the pump and dump schemes listed in the SEC accusations and the DOJ charges...(maybe a class action).
p2k: you will wind up looking like a fool
I think it is pretty clear who the fools are here...
Phil: And you think anyone cares what you think?
p2k: You pumped and touted Calypso Wireless for years, if this is investigated you'll be on the list of suspects along with several others on this thread...
ajtj: I think it is time for an "I am innocent" post...
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=38080949
janice shell: I am a firm believer in "innocent until proven guilty".
However, given that the charges and accusations amount to a gross betrayal of the trust of the membership of Investors Hub and bring into question the credibility going forward of Investors Hub and Silicon Investor for that matter, I believe an "I AM INNOCENT" post from Matt is due.
Keith Maydak: OK, I joined in the loose interpretation of the TOS on this thread in my last reply to Phil...
Phil: I say breaking the TOS and pretending not to, is posting "like" an idiot...
ajtj: LOL....really....gg
I just spent some time over on the SEC Charges Eight Participants in Penny Stock Manipulation Ring thread. I haven't seen this much activity since the days of Tokyo Joe and Anthony@Pacific over on SI...
nwsun: That is like telling a young lady she deserved to be raped because she wore a provocative outfit to go clubbing.
I think iHub is going to have to elimante penny stock threads if it ever hopes to regain credibility. I have long been against them and long ago pushed for some sort of Disclaimer before users were allowed to read and post on them.