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WTF? Analysis?
Yes well I specifically asked you for a link a few days ago and never received a reply. I don't pretend to know more than I do and so seek some education here. I did not start trading directly from the womb, I thought everyone has a learning curve
Thanks Dutchlion. So the MMs have a big effect on the opening bids?
Crazyhorses where did you find a L2 site? Can you please post the link? This is outside of Fidelity Active Trader?
Please STOP the sarcasm and negativity? Please?
Go kick a puppy or steal some kid's candy then come back and post when you feel better
Educate me please?
I am aware that OTC does not trade in extended hours
so
Can someone explain this?
Green Innovations Ltd. Pre-Market Trading
GNIN $1.95 * 0.22 negative 12.72%
*Delayed - data as of 03/08/2013 08:39
Source = http://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/gnin/premarket#.UTnrmzcWB2E
What am I missing? Thanks for your indulgence
I truly don't know why I respond to these types of posts but . . .
"This week Green Hygienics will complete several more important product shipments that will result in more of our products available soon on shelves at retailers and distributors in southern California, including Big Saver Foods and Cardenas Markets," stated Tray Harrison, National Sales Manager of Green Hygienics. "Every time we secure a new purchase order and our warehouse ships that product out on time, not only do our brands reach more and more consumers, but we also increase our value as a trusted supplier to our growing retail and wholesale distribution network. As a result of our hard work, Green Hygienics products will now be available in over 1,300 locations in California, including more than 1,000 dollar stores."
Please point out the "fluff"
In my mind "product shipments" = revenue and product exposure.
totally unnecessary comment. let's keep the civility going here. as has been said here before everyone has their own motives for investing so the only thing we should have in common is respect for others' views
Happy Friday
WHOOOOOPSS My bad, thanks for the clarification Crazyhorses
Nice move chris8sirhc and thanks for the explanation and for me a little lesson.
So drinks all around on you?????
Could this be a pump and dump that actually turns into a legit business? What if they start receiving orders and have to start filling them??
Anyone seen the movie The Producers??
The Whole foods news was simply that GNIN products were to be evaluated. Evaluation does not equal orders let alone revenue.
Don't look for any PRs from GNIN if the evaluation turns out badly for them
http://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/06/otcpinksheetshortselling.asp#axzz2Mt2BOb5G
In regards to pink sheet and over-the-counter (OTC) listed securities, short selling is allowed. An OTC security is one that is not traded on a formal exchange such as the New York Stock Exchange or the American Stock Exchange. OTC securities are often quoted on the OTC Bulletin Board (OTCBB). Pink sheet securities are very similar to OTC securities in that they are not listed on exchanges, but are quoted on a daily publication issued by the National Quotation Bureau. However, pink sheet securities carry much more risk because they do not require the companies to register with the SEC or stay current in their financial statements.
Although short selling is allowed on these securities, it is not without its problems. Short selling on OTC is extremely risky because these securities are often very thinly traded, which makes them very illiquid. This illiquidity can prove hazardous if an investor needs to cover an increasingly unprofitable short position. If the volume is very low, covering the position may become a very unlikely prospect. Another problem that has arisen with short selling in OTC securities is the use of pump and dump schemes. These schemes are done by con artists who use internet message boards and SPAM emails to heavily promote a thinly traded stock in which they have long positions. When this happens, the result is often a high spike in the price of the stock, followed by a fall. However, the initial spike will devastate any investor with a short position. These schemes often use OTC stocks because they are relatively unknown when compared to exchange traded stocks.
Read more: http://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/06/otcpinksheetshortselling.asp#ixzz2Mt2bPcJ5
Yeah right whatever
Not that it would matter to you but I did "bother" read their SEC filings and also googled Bruce. Afterwards I bought and sold and made a few thousand. So I guess we can expect to see your scare messages here after you short and the price continues to raise.
You have to ignore these types of posts Crazyhorses. There are no details or data to backup what they are saying. They come out of their holes to try and scare folks.
Can you please post a link to the level 2 you are citing?
Nice terminology for honest folks trying to make a buck then get taken down. I guess you were born trading right out of the womb and haven't taken a loss since then?
Is it just a coincidence or do I see a distinct pattern here?
Stock goes up and the same bashers come out of the woodwork.
I am trying to decide who is worse the P&D newsletter promoters
or the the negative posters here. At least the promoters are up front about their compensation
My only advice here is not to listen to ALL-IN888
Only out for themselves with no courtesy or regard for other investors here
In at .67 and lost my nerve and out at 1.40.
I learned my personal lesson (and a few quid) on the last dump.
All the best to those that hang in there!!!!
Actually I cannot find it on the Fidelity site.
I've googled for level 2 sites but they are all mostly ads or subscription sites with high rates, I'm thinking there must be a free site somewhere?
Yeah I kind of agree with you. Although I am on the fence regarding whether this is in fact a P & D but regardless there is a buck to be made here. IMHO
Can anyone provide a URL for level II stock quotes?
What will this action do to the stock price?
Compensation is paid to this site although gnin is not mentioned specifically. Be careful when evaluating this information
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That is not just DUMB it is DUMB AND DUMBER
Wouldn't normally comment on something this DUMB but this is a DUMB PRIZE WINNER
You've got to do better than man that stocks the sales
The "man who stocks the supplies saw a memo or email????" Can't you do any better than that?
Who did you ask to speak to? The man who stocks the supplies? You mean a stockboy???? That wasn't even a nice try, it was pathetic
Me Too Crazyhorses
OK Sounds good but let's take a deep breath and not get ahead of ourselves here
Yes I do receive pumper emails and this is one of them that is why I added the compensation they receive on the bottom of the post. I cut 'n pasted the news release from the pumper email from dividend seeker.com but I also read the official news release on Fidelity.com
so I believe it is legit.
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FYI
Moments ago, Green Innovations Ltd. (GNIN) received a pilot purchase order from Union Supply Group, a leading provider of State, Federal, and County correctional institutions nationwide.
This order is a pilot purchase order, meaning that if the product is well-received it could translate into a substantial reoccurring revenue stream from the correctional industry nationwide. The correctional facilities industry saw over $33 Billion in turnover last year, marking a substantial opportunity for Green Innovations Ltd. (GNIN)'s product line.
Keep in mind this source is being compensated $35,000 per week to promote gnin
Would this be called "support levels?"
Life would be quite boring if we were all the same.
I prefer "wary" over "overly cautious."
I am staying in but will be staying close to the keyboard and mouse!!!!
Relax and take a deep breath. This is not fantastic news you posted. I am staying in but still wary. I am a realist. Evaluation does not equal revenue. I want to see the stock raise on its on merits not because of pumps
This is simply an evaluation. How many products do you think Federated Group "evaluates?" This doesn't mean much, purchase orders = revenue
Parse the wording here. Not to say that Federated is not interested but the text seems to imply that Federated approached Green Hygienics which I doubt. Words can be very persuasive when placed correctly -- Don't get too excited about this -- good but not great
“We are very pleased that Federated Group has expressed an interest in working with us to build distribution for our brands and I am confident that each of the 15 products currently being evaluated for sale within their member group will exceed their quality and value standards,” stated Tray Harrison, National Sales Manager of Green Hygienics. “Following the successful conclusion of this short approval process, we will gain access to Federated Group’s industry expertise and the ability to supply our products directly to their extensive national wholesale distribution network. We anticipate that this will lead to numerous potential purchase orders from Federated Group clients.”
Nice post with some good info However
Although Target.com does sell UP & UP diapers, wipes, and other sanitary products they are not bamboo based. They are cotton and wood fluff (whatever that is) based. Also could not find any UP & UP T-paper on the sire. A search of their web site for bamboo products did not return ANY paper or sanitary items. Obviously the manufacturer supplies more than bamboo based products.
Also it would be great if you could post a direct link to the ordering info you cited from the U.S. Customs site. Being you linked other info
Thanks!!
Great Post. I would like to commend your efforts to bring some sanity to the GNIN situation here on the BB.
I have been accused of being both a pumper and a basher here so I guess that proves I am in the middle. Heck, I can't even agree with some folks here. It's funny that after agreeing with a post made by someone their response is a promise (or a hope) to visit me in the poor house.
I agree with you. Basically to keep up a discussion about the fortunes of GNIN based on factual and verifiable information and let the best investors win.
I would like to comment on a couple of points that you made in your post.
Honesty in the business space: I read once that 75% of all start-ups are doomed to fail so I agree that perhaps Mr. Harmon's past failures are simply a matter of statistics. However, when an entrepreneur's motives from the outset are to deceive the investor community for their own personal gain then this needs to be noted, reported, and mentioned in future endeavors by this same entrepreneur. (Although I do find some questionable past behaviour on Mr. Harmon's part I am not referring to him here) In other words illegal activities can just as well be the cause of start-up failures. I don't recall Steve Jobs, Thomas Edison, or Bill Gates ever being accused of illegal actions for the purpose of defrauding investors.
The roll of the SEC: I stated in a post here that GNIN had filed SEC reports which I thought was a sign of legality on the company's behalf. My belief being that filing reports is better than lack of same. It was quickly pointed out to me here that Enron also filed SEC reports. It is hard to rebut that observation. The SEC in fact has a pitiful record of investigations and indictments for the highest profile cases (Enron & the 2008-09 Wall Street debacle) that to believe they would scrutinize every filing and investigate slight abnormalities could be misguided.
I wholly commend your vigilance of these SEC matters as they relate to GNIN but given the SEC's past performance and the current state of affairs in D.C. regarding spending cuts do you believe that someone reads your emails and says, "Let's investigate this." The point I am trying to make is that it would not be the first time someone made a fraudulent SEC filing.
I admit that this is my first foray into the OTC (penny stocks)world and it has been a very interesting experience. I took a little bit of a beating on the $3.35 >> $1.43 slide but have recovered nicely since then. (got back in at .64 & .69)
I again commend you for your post and your call for sanity and civility here although I am sure you are due to be slammed by the "usual suspects."
That's true you must have posted this 3 times already.
There's nothing new here, we've all seen it and commented
Amen mdavyinvests. . . . . and if you were to extrapolate your philosophy of honesty in the market place we would have a healthy and robust world economy.
It's hard enough with all things being equal but when you're playing with "loaded dice", "stacked deck", pick your metaphor, it becomes much more difficult.
I am not saying that there are no false filings at all. What I am saying is that I would take SEC filings over some poster's hearsay that they received a damaging email without putting it up as evidence.
. . . and further if gini had not filed you would probably be slamming them for not having done so. Now that they have well they obviously must be false.