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Ok thx!
How do you arrive to that number?
1 mu = 0.16 acres = 640 SQM
Even when I include 200% overhead space, SIAF can produce 120,000 kg per mu.
I would argue that you don't understand how the capital markets works in this type of security. There are allot of capital working with restraints and in this case not only formal. No one wants to be the first to invest formally. If you have a bunch of first tears going for the stock you do not risk your reputation. The big money prefers to make the journey from 5- 10 dollars than from .5 to 5.
Happy WE to you al. Viking in this kind of stock my guess is that you will have trades done buy longs that want to sell when they discovered they are overexposed. That might still bring shares to the table if we going up to let's say 2 dollars with 150 million shares. I do think that there is money on the sideline waiting for things to be more clear and that knowlageble people have analysed the chart to the decision to move in when the share price is moving up.
Guess your guess is better in details but the sense morale is the same!
That is nothing but a qualified guess with own assumptions. This is my guess. Solomon wanted to build all he possibly could build in a short period of time and thought that would be in the best interest of share holders.
Great work Randal!
Go SIAF!
Yeh how can he go on the way he does. I mean the company is at rock bottom of valuation! Does he want to squeeze out another 10 cents from the rock?
That is true but also apply to top 500. A CEO is always divided by the shareholders the market and by the fundamental growing of the business, that how it works. You have to be able to get along with both. I do not want Solomon to do anything legal, but I have the feeling this is not one of his strong areas. But hey I think in some way it is roots rock stock market the way it's suppose to be from early age. But today with mm using algorithmic trades, bank regulations, hedge fonds using the short comings to their advantage and this instant information flow you have to adopt. I al boils down to trust. I trust Solomon with more than 10% of my capital.
Well if they consciously went for the increase in equity without private placement or limited prospect, by the way not so good, then they could have at least optimised the price for those shares being dumped. That they can do by experience in how the pricing mechanism works for Chinese micro caps listed in the us. Let me put it in more understandable terms. If you think that the market prefers to invest in SIAF above the 1 dollar mark why not let the price run to that level before start dumping? They could have done this in the late high volume rally in January.
It is true that market makers have made a good living on this one. The charts and the dumping can easily reveal millions of traded dollars in profits. They have been or still are in a algorithmic arbitrary position. If Solomon and the team around him in the JV had used one experienced guy from the us we would have saved millions.
I do not find why in Qinghai we can not own majority stake in agriculture?
I have tried to learn as much as possible of china investment salients during the last couple of years and here is one of my favourite sources to al of you.
http://www.chinaaccountingblog.com/
Paul Gillis is soon releasing a book in this subject.
Thx RD the VIE are used mostly in the sectors where foreign ownership is not allowed like Internet, media etc. Alibaba is one.
I just love the satire pic in this article.
http://www.economist.com/node/18928526
RD or Viking do you know if the JV are VIE:s variable interest entities or there is no need for that structure?
Joe why can't you come up with some more substantial arguments in your fraud accusations. You been here for years posting the same meaningless posts. You should at least explain yourself to the rest of us and give us your best shot on how this fraud of yours is constructed.
Who in here is using ATDF as a Market Maker?
http://www.atdesk.com/pdf/AUTO_OrderHandling.pdf
http://www.level2stockquotes.com/market-makers-a-list.html
They might run their own program but I would like to think they have a customer?
Does any one here knows how the law applies for a buy-out with "China" company's listed in the US. Can +10 % of capital ownership but not the votes stop the transaction?
Yeah that would be like a shrimp spa!
In my opinion they already did!
Yes I do think that Solomon needs to be questioned upon this, it doesn't look good the way this stock is traded right now. I will do it and see if he they can provide any comments without breaking any law.
Yes I get it but here we are almost certain that the company is dumping or JV or?
Funny top 10 blue chip on OTC!
To me it seams like the big blocks are rigged in price range. I can't make any other conclusion after three weeks of this new pattern. My guess is one big buyer and couple of large retail getting a deal. What do you think?
I do think that SIAF is valued wrong and should be in a higher peer group. Not among the fraudulent china investments. That's why I am investing here.
Tf what is your take on NQ? Mine is that YDT is a coverup and that they conceived limited fraud. Just curious!
Nordnet is a Internet broker I.e the holding is retail only. What you should take I to consideration is the 25 mil + shares hold by jordanfonden they have one member on board and been there several times.
Sad but true!
Yes the main worries would be Chinese law and order and the ability of going dark. If you trust Solomon or not. that's why there are so little capital invested by entities that are responsible of other people's money. Any one in here are more or less entrepreneurs and risking there money. My bet is of course clear this is one of my best.
I also think that a financial solution might be in place during 2014 this will of course raise the company value. I do not know any details and I am only referring to my self but to me it is highly plausible.
Well give it a couple of years if it would be tomorrow the predators would be all over the stock. I do not see and I do not want any fast movements I want fundamental growth.
Yes but I sincerely feel that the investors have been treated badly, so far!
I think he is smart enough to understand this. At the moment he needs capital and is confident about the best interest of the stakeholders. I am certain that he knows he is a star in operations but feels he missed calculated he's ability to do finance.
I like your interpretation but its semantics and not interesting.
But can you give an explanation why the company, or someone els, is selling so heavily in to a bull market with all good news coming?
Traderfan what is this every day big post at 0.511 about, cant figure it out if its between mm or something different. I can't imagine the defectives to the mm dumping from Solomon allowing this behaviour or can you?