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bought some, too, yesterday 6.51 at IBKR
up yesterday ,
down just one day later: today
Screenshot: outstanding shares
51 billion:
https://personal.vanguard.com/us/funds/stocks/snapshot?Ticke…
So, even - EVEN if hundreds of thousand individual people, around the world, during the next 90 days, sell relatively cheap and earlie, this means nothing. that doesn't help f....ing SHFs not a bit! the die hards wont sell cheap
EXCAMPLE
the last paperhand sells at 220 or 450 and there aren't paperhand s left and the next REAL APE wants 12.000 what can they do?
and again O N E H U N D R E D T H O U S A N D individuals have a similar price 14.600 or 18.000 and they´ve done selling - are gone at a certain point (but still 2? 3? million apes left)
the next ape wants 25.000 dollars and in that range ONE HUNDREDTHOUSAND others, what can SHFs do?
now - still only about 2 million INDIVUDUALS are left
50.000 of them wants above 50K
50.000 above 70K
50.000 above 100K
and so on
you see how strong we are and everything is possible, but as always in stock market, don't be too greedy, at a certain point USG MUST STEP IN
but even 2k 5k 10k 20k/ share is a fortune!
ONCE IN A LIFETIME, FRIENDS
don't get your reasoning, realy: The shorts "just" buying stock, why no sqeeze? they have to buy 1- 2- 3- billion shares, even more! much more, and no squeeze? no tremendous increase in sp?
don't get it
even though - buying = covering
crystal clear, maybe earlier!
But todays action and even next week is meaningless.
1. stay calm, do nothin
2. load a bit more on the dips
3. trade a small amount
we'll be golden in some weeks, what ever you do, anyway.
your right, with fatigue and scaretactics seems to work. For how many people? I don't know.
But you forget one / two facts:
1. authorities must avoid, that us-markets go down for ever, too many - the whole investing world knows about the memestock fraud and crime
2. SHFs have to cover eventually. And that starts price increase - maybe MOASS - at least trmendous increase in sp!
But, as many people fall for it, as cheaper it will be for SHFs
I count on the intelligence of at least 5% of the movement, and these are a lot of investors, which have their price, anyway.
So, some hundered million of shares will get realy, realy expensive. And a certain amount of investors/apes will get filthy rich!!
IBKR ape halted - its premarket, where i usually can buy!
me2, especially ape buying, no matter of price
so true, i-hub-pebs
you are right if 70%-90% of investors and apes are idiots. But the one´ s still in play after months after months (years) of experience and watching, are the strongest community ever have been in stock markets.
We stay strong and united but always a few, even now, fall for the tricks of SHFs, MMs and maybe AA
my APES show up on IBKR, same amount of my amc, value is the dividend aqivelent.
fully understand this, but isn't that excactly what the SHFs + MMs wants? With their boring psychological tricks and tactics? sp up - sp down - FUD - media. . . . . . .
Think about it HOW DESPERATE they are!?
PATIENCE is key
ENDURANCE is key
CLEVERNESS is mandatory
WE OWN THE FLOAT
THEY HAVE TO COVER
WE HODL
WE WIN
history must not be kind to apes, anyway.
If, IF we go in history . . . . probably . . . . nice add, but i don't need it
PLAIN FACT they have to BUY BACK
that's so obvious, so clear: no FUD can destroy FACT
you heard of it - it's the nature of the game:
trading is buying and selling, no matter what comes first!
the insane first sell and then buy was made NOT BY ME, but insane regulators, greedy business people
i hate "normal" shorting too, but that's not vital, that's not the thing
right, and upon that . . . they have to buy back
all
this
sh...t
after days like this - WHO, IN THEIR RIGHT MIND would continue to claim, there are no counterfeit shares?
there are NOT 10 and more BILLION of "AMC"shares?
AND:
i think that problem (of them) isn´t mentioned / isn´t
realy discussed, yet:
to make a profit, they must try to cover under their entry point! They shortet the 25 pricepoint, as well as 24, 23, 22, 21, 20 YEAH even down till 10!!
even for the short in the 12 / 11 / 10-ish range its nearly impossible.
so, tell me how to make a profit / buying back cheaper than 10? 8ish?
4. on the contrary to point 3: I did a roughe calculation - they needed to sell about 70million for 1 dollar decrease at nearly every pricepoint, and to buy back that excact amount of shares the increase in shareprice will be
approximately 1,4 Dollar. So this isn´t a zero game for them AND US, no BETTER it´s a minus game for them (and luckily) for us.
So, no need for us "to fear" about ANYTHING
Let's see, friends, what tomorrow brings.
As always, over 90% selling by SHFs + MMs adding to the sheer amount of counterfeit, shorted shares?
and our reaction? Fear? COMPLAIN? joy? if more retailers will sell early (cheap) when MOASS starts?
If many will sell cheap, the more money for the true apes, because THERE IS a limit in available money, anyway! (speakin about trillions and speaking NOT about 1000/share)
There are so many counterfeit shares , that USG / the authorities MUST step in ANYWAY, at a certain point, especially if counterfeit shares exceeds 5bill shares and above (which would equal an insane shareprice above 100K AND MORE)
But what are many sellers? think about it: We are a huge "amount" of true apes/ "members" of a MOVEMENT, and we are different than any other investors in any other stock.
So, even - EVEN if hundreds of thousand individual people around the world sell relatively cheap and earlie, this means nothing. that doesn't help f....ing SHFs not a bit! the die hards wont sell less than xx.xxx.
EXCAMPLE
the last paperhand sells at 220 450 810 or 1.200 and there aren't paperhand s left and the next REAL APE wants 12.000 what can they do?
and again O N E H U N D R E D T H O U S A N D individuals have a similar price 14.600 or 18.000 and they´ve done selling - are gone at a certain point (but still 2? 3? million apes left)
the next ape wants 25.000 dollars and in that range ONE HUNDREDTHOUSAND others, what can SHFs do?
now - still only about 2 million INDIVUDUALS are left
50.000 of them wants above 50K
50.000 above 70K
50.000 above 100K
and so on
you see how strong we are and everything is possible, but as always in stock market, don't be too greedy, at a certain point USG MUST STEP IN
but even 2k 5k 10k 20k/ share is a fortune!
ONCE IN A LIFETIME, FRIENDS
watch that video and you'll increase your targets immensely (if you still want to have a special price)
all we need to know:
HUGE huge amount of fake shares out. TO BUY THESE BACK a squeeze way beyond Volkswagen, VW will happen:
- MOASS the mother of all short squeeze -
That means, your dollars are safe concerning C R A S H. Take at least 20% of your portfolio as a protection, cause the price for amc will increase at least 5 times (more likely 50 times)
1. Latest calc by "log the float" is at least 2,5B shares outstanding, based on 4.1 mill apes. But since one year (4.1mill), my guess is, that we are now 6million apes. That wood mean 3.5B!
2. the HF citadel alone, recent finance report under "liabilities 65billions dollar, sold not yet bought!" To be clear on that point:
a) these are all shorts, not only amc
b) this are 65b dollar's , not shares!
3. during the last 12 months 28bill shares additionally sold short. (chartexchange.com) and shortvolume daily , 60% - 55%, so take 28B * .57 = 15.96 billions shares.
4. for CMKM diamonds in 2005 68,5 billion phantom shares had been detected. Look at Overstock, Dendreon and many other excamples.
DO YOUR OWN DD
5. Wes Christians estimates for all meme stocks is a minimum of 30 billion ( number is low, he wants to be conservative, thats o.k. )
6. I reiterate the SAY overview/poll/survey and this strengthens "my" numbers above. It's a common practice: To estimate numbers, you need surveys of statistical relevance, always a fraction of the numbers of the real "market" "political votes" and the like. We had in this poll a significant amount of 63.600 investors in amc (63.600 out of about 5 million is more than statistically relevant, a ratio beyond common ratios used) So 63.600 investors held 7.900.000 shares = 1068 shares/investor! 1068 x 5 millionen (investors) = 5,3 bill shares
for me, when i mix it roughly together, there should be about 5B to 8B out for AMC.
oh, oh prices go down, we will never reach 26, no moass . . . shit
. . . . that's excactly what the cabal wants us to believe!
AMC incl. APE is bigger than
VW
Overstock
(and how many phantom shares of "CMKM diamonds" in 2005 were detected? !!!68.5billions!!!)
MUCH BIGGER
GEOMETRIC MEANS GM proofed their is enough money for high prices, even 500K !!!
one of the many scaretactics failed from the bots, due to poor science!
I am not saying we will reach this PEAK due to human factor and never in history something happened!! althuogh math proofed its possible!
Hold On
HODL for high prices - LIFECHANGING -
. . . and 10 shares saved for 100K
10 for 200K
300K
400K
500K
so true !
FUD again
Shorting again
haha, i would do the same until the end by thursday and friday.
wont help
nobody falls for it
finished dear f..kin HFs screwed MMs
oh my god, oh, oh prices went down, we will never reach even 26,
no moass . . . sh.t
. . . . that's excactly what the cabal wants us to believe!
AMC incl. APE is bigger than
VW
Overstock
MUCH BIGGER
GEOMETRIC MEANS GM proofed their is enough moneymfor high prices, even 500K !!!
one of the many scaretactics failed from the bots, due to poor science!
I am not saying we will reach this PEAK due to human factor and never in history something happened!! althuogh math proofed its possible!
Hold On
HODL for high prices - LIFECHANGING -
. . . and 10 shares saved for 100K
10 for 200K
300K
400K
500K
. . . . they have to buy back
- all
- this
- sh...t
after days like this - WHO, IN THEIR RIGHT MIND would continue to claim, there are no counterfeit shares?
there are NOT 10 and more BILLION of "AMC"shares?
and additionally:
i think that problem (of them) isn´t mentioned / isn´t realy discussed, yet:
to make a profit, they must try to cover under their entry point! They shortet the 25 pricepoint, as well as 24, 23, 22, 21, 20 YEAH even down till 10!!!
even for the short in the 12 / 11 / 10-ish range its nearly impossible
so, tell me how to make a profit / buying back cheaper than 10? in the 9ish? 8ish?
4. on the contrary to point 3: I did a roughe calculation - they needed to sell about 70million for 1 dollar decrease at nearly every pricepoint, and to buy back that excact amount of shares the increase in shareprice will be approximately 1,4 Dollar. So this isn´t a zero game for them AND US, no BETTER it´s a minus game for them (and luckily) for us.
So, no need for us "to fear" about decreasing shareprice, decreasing of our brokerage accounts. This are just temorarily NUMBERS, which will increase disproportionately high, evantually!
thanks for the link Mr. Dover and GREAT commet Mr. P.
Gladly, you are wrong. You magically forgot all the FACTs.
The many proofs, we gathered, unable to mention everything!
(its all here, by the way)
They got what they have fighting for, since months now -
- F. U. D. -
You think, what they want us to think
Congratulation to the psychologists of Citadel
u n b e l i e v a b l e
must read, again and again
AGAIN AND AGAIN : https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=169690090
nomore talk about 10, 20, 30, 50, 100K?
that's excactly what the cabal wants us to believe:
####### not possible ########
AMC incl. APE is bigger than
VW................................FACT
Overstock.....................FACT
MUCH BIGGER
GEOMETRIC MEANS GM proofed their is enough money for high prices, even 500K !!!
one of the many scaretactics failed from the bots, due to poor science!
I am not saying we will reach this PEAK due to human factor and never in history something happened!! althuogh math proofed its possible!
Hold On
HODL for high prices - LIFECHANGING -
. . . and 10 shares saved for 100K
10 for 200K
300K
400K
500K
excactly what i mean
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=169709075
by the way, in some boards i am Karlchen54
Yep - Holding at the first place, and after holding??
better we have a strategy after holding . . . already!!
better we all have a math for selling, and NO specified PRICE as a sell trigger! either too low/early or even worse: too high, missin MOASS !
V(olume) and C(overing) is key!
1-2 bill covered (about 6 bill volume over days cumulated)
price under 1K? = waiting, over 1.5K = START selling
2.5 bill/price under 5k? waiting, over 7K continuing selling
3 bill no matter of price, continuing selling
4 - 5 B, the same and i smoothly sell off completely, price likely goes up further at 5-6 bill! Even if more counterfeit out, i think at that point USG will intervene (must intervene) and regulate the covering. i am out, then
The money is there! to pay very high prices, though!
according to GM (geometric means) the average price OF ALL SHARES COVERED is just 1.51% of peak!! 100k/share (1.510usd) is 100% possible
calc this for instance with 2 billion shares: 1.510 x 2B = 3 Trillion
WE. . . . just have to hodl! just 100.000 even just 20.000 investors out of over 4 MILLIONS !! with a vision are needed with real DIAMOND hands!
my guess is: GREAT for us all
The bill is so huge, the SHFs banks MMs have tons of billions to pay, there is enough and beyond for all of us.
with a huge (new) catalysator: debtfree company, with a huge warchest, is good for higher and much higher prices, additionally to moass potential
All doubt is construed, unreal, not honest, deceptive, you name it
HY AI + INVEST, that's excactly what the cabal wants us to believe!
AMC incl. APE is bigger than
VW
Overstock
MUCH BIGGER
GEOMETRIC MEANS GM proofed their is enough moneymfor high prices, even 500K !!!
one of the many scaretactics failed from the bots, due to poor science!
I am not saying we will reach this PEAK due to human factor and never in history something happened!! althuogh math proofed its possible!
Hold On
HODL for high prices - LIFECHANGING -
. . . and 10 shares saved for 100K
10 for 200K
300K
400K
500K
Good and adequate math. one of a few that shows the amount approximately! And all between 3-10billions
another math about average shareprice: THE MAGIC of GM, the science/math of
GEOMETRIC MEANS, against hearsay, FUD that there is
not enough money for huge shareprices, bashing and
other fear tacticts!
GM calcs the average price of all shares:
1. the way up/down
2. Peak
the math of GM roughly equades to about 1,51% of Peakprice!
40K/PEAKprice, 1.51% = GM 604$
do your own MATH:
GM 604$ times all outst. shares (say 2 billion) = money needed for whole MOASS
for 100K/PEAK 1,51% = GM 1.510.00 x 2 bill
I am completely out, until 4-5 billion beeing covered. My guess, the SP is so high (50-200K), the USG steps in, regulate, and price decrease (understandable action to protect the us and global economy)
that's why i always say, irrelevant to know the whole amount of counterfeit shares.
Gape on GM with more examples. please listen and don't miss the last minute
youtube.com/watch?v=j3nWFvz...
starting selling when at least 1 bill shares beeing covered!(acccumulaed 3! bill VOLUME) Don't waist precious shares before!
not only your thoughts!
The thoughts of millions ! !
Ken Griffin is ripe
i realy REALY WONDER that the lit exchanges don't complain, because they loose so much money, and i realy wonder additionally why nobody of the apes mentions that vital point?
(wonder how high the PPS would be)
Well, I can't say how high it realy goes, we will see. But I think i must not know it, either! let me explain how
REAL covering starts until VOLUME over 10 days is by around 600mill/day ~ 200mill. COVERED
1.5 - 2 billion shares beeing bought back! BOOOM i sell my first chunk, no matter of price-THEN !
will be def. higher than any SANE floorprice considered!
that's safe, price will continue to raise, while selling more of my shares.
that's safe, protects us from selling too early/ low OR missin out moass due to unrealistic high sharesprice.
that's safe, we get a high price and must not even bother what the high price (near PEAK) is or will be,
! or what price is REALY unrealistic !
HEY, that's GREAT
WHY discussing and fighting about: paperhands - diamondhands, fools, idiots, dreamers - floorprice: 100 250 or "I am tough, I want 100k"
- shorts haven't cover (better:close) yet - PLAIN FACT -
So why beeing nervous? on top of that, they kept on shorting, week for week, months for months, over an additional year now!
One: floorprice, if you have one, can /should rise week for week, because it's an insane amount of counterfeit shares. Estimates 10-18 billion!
Two: I don't have a special share/floorprice, but better watching VOLUME/COVERING daily. Why should i sell my first bracket and HFs slowly start closing in small numbers! low volume - its easy to watch!
Then , at any time maybe just the first 1.2 billion are closed (for that there must be some days with
commulated VOLUME PER DAY of about 4 billion) I START selling.
NO MATTER OF THE PPS
Third: AA improved our position enormously!
its a safe strategie cause billions to close further, price
goes rather up than down!
my guess, just a guess, you consider him a bit too big. HE IS, FOR SURE.
but just 70% perhaps 60% of this picture.
Enemies, counterparts, negotiation partners always look much bigger than they are. Their position, arguments, strength!
In the moment you change ship and you are part of the new "crew" you see the weakness on their part (beneath their strength)
Great summery, thanks a lot.
I, for me alone, whould have lost some points.
But tonight i came across 2 other items, half known, but yet a bit forgotten:
REMEMBER
they have to buy back all this sh...t
i think that problem (of them) isn´t mentioned / isn´t realy discussed, yet:
to make a profit, they must try to cover under their entry point! They shortet the 25 pricepoint, as well as 24, 23, 22, 21, 20 YEAH even down till 10!!!
even for the short in the 20-30ish range its nearly impossible. And since 72, they shorted more, not buying back (well, maybe a small fraction here and there)
so, tell me how to make a profit / buying back cheaper than? when?
Another point: I did a roughe calculation - they needed to sell about 20 million for 1 dollar decrease at nearly every pricepoint, and to buy back that excact amount of shares the increase in shareprice was temporarily approximately 1,4 Dollar. So this isn´t a zero game for them AND US, no . . . . much BETTER it´s a minus game for them (and luckily) for us.So, no need for us "to fear" about decreasing shareprice, decreasing of our brokerage accounts. This are just temorarily NUMBERS, which will increase disproportionately high, evantually!
As some other posters wrote it: THEY ARE realy F.......ED
. . - - and don't forget they screwed many people from different countries worldwide. They'll all asks very painful questions for any foul , criminal plan they may have.
They got to pay . PERIOD
they first sold, then they have to buy , secondly - its weird by definition and i say (as the only person in the world) even normal shorting is insane - but - they wanted it, so, they habe to finish the trade (finishing the game)
looking forward to your posts (well, as always) and thank you.
Everyone here will do so.
SEC is responsible that all international investors leave the UNITED FAKES OF AMERICA
all money is leaving and domestic will follow suit, why wouldn´t they?
Plain and simple, delaying the last parts of CAT is so blatandly obscure as it gets. YET, we dont need it.
What we still have is overwhelming enough.
´nough said.......