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What BS Talking Is This ?
There is no such SCOTUS Info to See and need first see the results from Sheila Law Hearing at March 3, 2020 !
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I don't think there will be dilution. They, Means by F+F some present Prefs Shareholders will get screwed. Prefs are nothing else than Public kind of Loans by Par-Value ( Debt ) where the Interests paid by too high Dividends and that's exactly what will kill them under the Conditions where as seen at SEC the Contracts already voided and the Duress is just an additional Fact to Reconfirm the Voidance.
Some could even argue, if such Prefs should been traded at the Stock Market.
Resulting there will be the Cleanup where the Prefs from Buys after Sept. 5, 2008 get voided, Nullified and the former Prefs Investors from before Sept. 6, 2008 by some Offer get compensated and New Prefs with lower Dividends of max. 4-5% will get Issued !
By this F+F after release avoids cleanup Old-Debts to be more Healthy and by this to have improved Investors Attraction.
If F+F would not do this above by using the Momentum, it would be totally stupid and We know they not stupid.
Exactly !!
For the CS or SPS it's Fake Fooling Titled "Purchase" where there was never any !
No Money For Purchase Anything, Did Ever Change Hands. It's also the Reason why until Today no Gov Shares are Issued as Outstanding, not according SEC or the SEC Approved Transfer Agencies.
Afterwards in some UST Publication, not in the Fake Fooled Agreements, was it Fake Fooling also "Investment" declared To Fool Taxpayers and To Off-Set the National Debt To Fool The World and Etc., there are many thing Courts Finally Will Take Care Off and to expect Cancel Everything !
Fake Fooled Matters Have No Standing In Courts.
Treasury Mob Site ?
No Reference !
Sell Prefs, FNMAS, Because Known They Always Drop !!
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No One Need To Challenging The Warrants, Just Following The Collateral Laws and Get Cancelled !
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F+F are the only two remaining Companies which since 2009 because of US Gov could not recover from The Crisis Down Turn and Paradise for Investors, where at that time anybody could buy anything for huge profits.
That's Why FNMA & FMCC have such Huge Profits Potentials Remaining !!
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The Usual Prefs BS !!
Show The Intact Prefs Contracts By SEC, But There Is None !
See The SEC Here : https://Investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=153132543
So How Under The Contract-less Conditions To Claim Par-Value or Even The Existence of Prefs - LoL
By the Prefs With It's Preconditions To ZERO !!
As Soon The New-Prefs Issued By F+F, The Present Old-Prefs Get Indefinitely HALTED at OTC and the Prefs Investors of Buys after Sept. 5, 2008 Get Screwed As Supposedly.
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Ackman confirmed, Sold Prefs for Commons !!
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It's below the center of Bollinger Band.
As Nobody Is Waiting For Ur BS, Then What ?
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Please Show The Gold & Intact Prefs Contracts By SEC !!
Smells This Like Merger Possible ?
A Question For A Longtime Not Asked To MC.
At any Merger, afraid of Old-Debts White-Out !
I guess The FHFA politically will let F+F publishing the Reconfirmation of At Old-Prefs of Buys after Sept. 5, 2008 The Contracts Get Not Reinstated for financial reasons and Instead New-Prefs Get Issued for Investors Attraction !
For me again to post "I Told You So !!"
Wait and See, until now My Insistences Got All Reconfirmed.
That's not relevant anymore. Because Since beginning of 2019 we have the New Situation of Release From Conservatorship and that's the only counting now !
WOW - Ackman Shows How Much Better Commons Do !!
Why Buy Preferreds ? When Smarts Buy Commons Now !!
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Nice - Ackman confirmed My Views & Know-How I'm preaching here since Over 6 Months, about Overall Commons More Safe, because Essential For Any Public Companies To Exist and With Much Higher Profits Potentials as the reason Now So Many From Prefs Rotating To Commons !!
Thanks Ackman To Reconfirm Me.
Shalom
To Know The SCOTUS Situation !!
Click-On above Blue-Link Rep.Post to get to the Links to check !
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Of 30 Po. only 8 FNMA Po.!!
In The Afternoon.
By Reacting Got 6 D. ( By IH China In US )
Prefs Invators IH Protected ?
P. In The Pan - LoLoL
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UK Strategic BS Is Worldwide Not Working Anymore !
Times & Opportunies Have Changed.
This also where presently as published Big or Institutional Investors smartly rotate To Commons For Much Better Profits Potentials !
Should Been Max.10% To Be Healthy !
But that presently is also not that bad.
As Seen FNMA Investors Sentiment Is For Up !
Icahn as Ackman are Members of the Berkowitz Consortium !
Here To See The SCOTUS Situation !!
By Checking Daily or Weekly The Two Cases at above Blue-Link Obi-Post to click-on and then click at presented SC Gov Links !
Additionally Check Here May Related Seila Law v. CFPB No.19-7
https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/19-7.html
March 3, 2020 Oral Arguments !
Our Collins participating with.
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Hi Obi - Thanks For 2 SCOTUS-Links To Check Daily !
I know that you're very good at finding Admin things if can and therefore and for others here, I'm asking you sometimes for help.
Since nobody is perfect, it's no problem for me to ask, contrary it's always good to know Who to ask What For since not all have the same talents.
So, I will use your Post for Info completions for others also to know where to look if needed.
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Commons also affected by this, but Since Commons have No Par-Values to completely To Lose and Can Principally Unlimited Increase Its PPS and Essential For The Public Companies Existence and Voting, therefore Commons have nearly Zero Risks compare to Prefs, beside the neglect-able Dividends at Normal PPS of $ 50 - 100 !
( This Conditions At Companies Not In Liquidation. )
You have to go to 2011-2012 Berkowitz Publications and then will find out, that Privately He Is The Biggest Single F+F Commons Investor from the moment when He tried a F+F takeover for which needed the majority of voting rights. He only for the good looking Has Only The Prefs at his public Fairholme Company, but it's a much smaller part compare to F+F Commons.
By SEC Legally Voided Prefs Contracts !!
As Since Sept. 6, 2008 therefore All Prefs Buys ( As Empty Shell-Stocks ) after Sept. 5, 2008 are as Legally All Contracts Effectively Cancelled, Voided, Totally Worthless, By Stockholders Not Possible To Ask or Expect Anything From !
See The SEC Filing with Explanations Here :
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=153132543
As seen at Judge Sweeney's Legal Opinions is this respected !
It explains why Big Institutional Investors presently At The Last Profitable Moments Rotate From Prefs To Commons, but why only the fanatic Luring & Fooling Prefs Ignore this Facts ?
Does It Really Payoff by Facts Ignorance To insist on Wishful Dreams with Highest Losses Risks ?
Why for example at FNMAS if the Down Trend As Deserved by The Facts, at the Rate of Daily Av. minus 5% within 6 Weeks continues, It Result to PPS of $ 2.65 For Further Until OTC Gray-Sheets Zeroing ?
Prefs Really Should Answer For Themselves Above Questions also under The SEC Facts Provided Here to do the right decisions at still the right time !!
Beside Here Is The FNMA Board To Respect.
Obi Please Help If You Can. Ano Thanks, Your Right !
Obi can you may find some SCOTUS Meeting List with Date where the Cases 19-422 Collins and later 19-563 Gov is on it ?
To me it's pretty confusing and get the idea if the SCOTUS related to systematics should learn from Central Europe or the International Court in Den Haag.
Commons Green - Prefs Red !!!
It explains the Invasive Prefs Desperations & Lies !
This By The SEC Reality Here : https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=153132543
Like To Lose Money, Buy or Keep Prefs !!
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It's rewritten From SCOTUS - Prefs BS !!
Reading ?
Prefs Contracts Effectively Cancelled Worthless !!
To See Here at SEC : https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=153132543
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There has been a Cases List for the SCOTUS to handle at Dec. 10, 2020 Meeting and that's the List was asking for to see what is still outstanding or not yet decided !
SCOTUS Order Page 2 - 3 !!
19-184 United States v. Collins, Richard D.
The motion of petitioner to dispense with printing the joint appendices are granted.
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Known Prefs BS !!
Where The Reality Is Here : https://Investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=153132543
Very Scary Week For Legally Worthless Prefs May Down Over 30% !!
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Ano - Please, What has been on that SCOTUS List for Dec. 10, 2020 for us to know what still is Outstanding by SCOTUS Publications ?
We have to see What All has been On The SCOTUS List for Dec. 10, 2020 and then We Know what still is outstanding !
Ur SCOTUS Related Questions are good, but presently We Have To Be Patient until the SCOTUS Publications, because presently We Don't Know what approach The SCOTUS may take until We see the publication and all Insisting In Anyway in the meantime is useless, by just going in endless circles without any reference results.
Nobody can say how the SCOTUS acts, only the SCOTUS knows and therefore even what may Today get listed published, can also be incomplete Same as The One of Last Friday and there is no such procedure in place of Only What Is Granted To Publish First or What Is Denied to publish second, it's just to assume of what is more easy to decide gets may first published !
It can take upto One Month until we have our decisions published.
Where Any Precipitant Speculating Is Totally Useless !
Personally I'm prefer Public SCOTUS Hearings, because it would create the necessary Medial Exposing even The NSA by its Monthly Checks to Medias CEOs could not control or keep undercover anymore !
( Surprising What For Taxpayers Money Can Be.)
The Only Way The Gov Ever Learns As Necessary.