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Aircorps, I relate. Surely the main issue was B.K. apparently he was the wolf in the sheep's clothing. He had so many people fooled, I continued having hopes that he was still legit, and that they would find that he was not the wolf - however, it does not look good for that to happen.
He obviously had everyone fooled because his background appeared so pristine. Well, etc. etc.
It just seems to have gotten into a big mess because of him, but I'm hopeful they can still prevail. Being sold on their technology, I've hung in there - knowing the battles are going to be tough - and just hoping there aren't any more wolves in the hiding.
My support though has and still is, mainly due to the founders, I have given them praise many times on here. And because of them, this still gives me hope.
Those of you that haven't been here for the 2-3 years now, wouldn't have had the exposure to them (the founders) that some of us others have had (the initial videos and all); which is why I initially bought in. I've never known much about the management (any of them), therefore I've been on the leary side because of "management". And, who is really calling the shots now? Any guesses??
Still though: Go BION!!
Am I missing something?? I do not see an attack here. eom
Sorry, but I don't have more time to be more simple, but here is a read that explains a good bit of it.
http://www.bionitrogen.com/news/bionitrogens-technological-exclusivity-and-production-process-agreement-is-finalized/
Some of this info may be outdated now though - not sure.
In reply to runnerup, that I accidentally "Posted New Message"
Hello All, I'm picking out a few of the postings and reading them. There are too many at this time for me to catch up, as I am at work. I'm still hanging in... No, as I don't believe this company is a scam, it was being scammed by BK, however, (sure he's done damage - but just how much???)I do believe in the technology, and do believe it can fly. Without any supportive info from BION though, I'm just on the fence right now. But as Codaras mentioned, and because of their recent change in accountants - it does appear they are "trying" and are not giving up.
This all gives me hope still and I do try and remain positive, but I don't know much more than anyone else here. I will not discredit anyone that has valid opinions, and at this point we just have to use our own judgment - I really can't say that anyone is wrong in their "opinion". And, by all means, I do appreciate hearing all opinions at this point.
No one really knows at this point, "in my opionion" and that's the "only" opinion I have right now.
Still hoping here...
Go BION!!
Hi Dutchf & all... yes, a nice vacation. Sorry I've not responded before now. I've not been getting on the internet at work, (at home for lunch right now). We've had virus's spreading around on various computers, so I'm gun shy and being careful.
I've been reading up on posts and all, but during the week nights I don't get on the internet much (competition too with my teens).
Have not had anything to say either, as I've not been real happy recently about this mess.
I do see a change in the accountant optimistic for the company though... meaning they are still at least in the "doing" stage. But quite frustrated with a good bit with BION.
We'll have to see... I still have hopes - not buying right now (holding), waiting on the sideline and I'd have to make a move on "news".
Good luck to us all!
Go BION!!
Thanks Dutchf, and Codaras for the good vacation wishes. I am going to the coast, so perhaps I should check out the catamarans. I can't get in the ocean during my stay - that's for sure. I'm going to Myrtle Beach, and they've had several shark attacks within the last couple of weeks. Therefore, I'll have extra time on my hands to scope out those catamarans - perhaps someone should be scoping out crews... lol, it is fun to dream.
Well, you all keep it under control - I'll have to get my son's here and there to tell me what the s/p is - they have the smart phones, and I have the unintelligent one (I don't pay for theirs). Funny though, my "pay as you go" phone costs me less than $30.00/mo. I'll keep it, well, until our day comes that is.... dreaming that it will.
Just hoping Annon is settled with little consequence, and I feel it will be. Then I hope they can get a little financing to carry us through, then, well, on and on etc. etc.
You all have a great 4th, and if you get the chance you can check out the couple of links re: Sherry Ramsey from Mount Holly, NC
http://www.live5news.com/story/29364720/thousands-spreading-love-not-hate-in-front-of-emanuel-ame
http://www.wsbtv.com/ap/ap/south-carolina/shootings-highlight-dark-past-for-charleston-race-/pCg6WM/
There truly are sad, hating people out there, I need to find ways to do my part. I think my sign was shown all over the nation and also Canada. I had a quick interview with Don Lemon of CNN, but I couldn't think good words quick enought, therefore, that was a flop. Oh well...
As always,
Go Bion!!
Nice going guys... these efforts may very well make a difference soon, after July 1st especially.
GO BION!!
I'll be away from the computer next week on vacation... will not be able to keep up with anything. Codaras, you have my ph#, shoot me a text if there is news etc. if you don't mind.
Hopefully, I won't return home to a bunch of chaos.
Happy Summer all!!
P.S. "Love thy Neighbor"
Glad you made it peafunke and Happy Father's Day!!
Happy Father's day to all also, that was thoughtful dutchf. Hope you all enjoyed your day.
May not be any part of the delay in truth... but, did you read he part in the report about one delay (I'll see if I can find it):
At least Attorney letter is now filed:
http://www.otcmarkets.com/financialReportViewer?symbol=BION&id=140187
Totally manipulated... around 3:00 today, around 20,083 shr sold at .0309, then the next ask was @ .031, for just a short bit - like right in front of my eyes, someone threw 20,000 shares up at .0282, and someone bought 1,067 shares @ .0282 for a grand total of $26.68. This is what I saw and I'm pretty sure, it went just about like that.
Yes, I remembe when it hit .40 when they hired a plant manager. I sure wish I would have sold then , and bought back in.
Actually, I initially bought this stock because of a newsletter that was pumping up the stock. I had just started trading and had most of my stock in the NASDAQ & such. Most all the stock was cheap then, must have been in 2011 (late).
Well, the newsletter pumped it up real good to this newbie here, and I kept trying to buy it that day, it kept moving up. Can't remember what it was at first; I was determined to get the stock, and finally bought it @ 1.50/share. I've shared this story on here before, but anyway, obviously I've avg. down quite a bit. I am long term with this, but I will sell at heights, and buy back at its lows,(only a couple of times have I done that - and don't feel any guilt whatsoever (loyal to myself). I've never made any money with that, would just end up with more shares. I did wish I had sold when it hit .40, I was greedy and was waiting for more.... pssh.
And then there are those times when it would go up, but was afraid to sell because we all know, one day, it might just not come back down.- who knows when that could happen.
This now is the only stock I own tht has potential... My portfolio is pitiful now (with crappy penny stocks) now worth nothing. Needless to say, I've learned a hard lesson with the stock market (penny stock market). This will be the last stock I'll own without being in mutual funds etc. Have lost quite a bit, so - this one is it for me.
Almost can't believe I've shared all of this, but really, why would it matter. Might sound gloomy, but honestly, I've written this with a smile.
Okay, back on a lighter note.... yes, with sentiment, I can see it flying up there like Richard said and bouncing back down.
Okay, enough (too much) said -
GO BION!!
And, thanks for sharing your research as well. The more posters, the merrier, and the more knowledgeable - the merrier (when good that is) .
Also, welcome to the board BGT52!!
Hopefully we'll all see more light of the day soon with this and that.
GO BION!!
Also, good luck BION, and good luck Carlos etal...
Great, settled then Peafunke, you're the man, you're the "Captain"!! And Swikey's Catamaran - and yes, we'll be discussing nothing but business.
Go BION!!
Great, and thanks BG...
If you look in the "Manage" section AirCorps, you'll see it was deleted by the "Ihub Admin" due to being "off topic". ???? don't know more.
TFletcher, you can appeal to the Ihub admin as to trying to get it restored. I don't know what rule you may have broken. these 2 msg. will also be deleted, because you can ask why msg. were deleted on here.
OOTS, you've always brought a bit of humor & stern opinions to this board. Was wondering if you're even aware of all that's been going on.... knowing how you vanish in and out from here. Wake up to BION if you're asleep - your humoring comments would be welcomed right now I think.
I agree regarding Fletcher, and grateful for "all" that can follow this,comment and such etc. Sometimes, things can be overwhelming regarding trying to understand the past/posts/links, and is a little over my head without studying this stuff.
Also, I'd like to take a moment and say how it's great that people are keeping it very civil on this board. It is difficult for so many of us with all of the unknowns. With this sort of caos, I've seen other boards get really ugly.
Good luck to us all &
Go BION!!
I'm neither convinced this is a fellow named Ron, nor that this isn't BK. His first objective was to ruin Carlo's reuputation, then to get the Annon settled, my first statement about what he might be still lies,
will finish later.
I may just agree with you Fltunes, waiting a bit, keeping my eyes and ears open, and trying to keep my mouth shut (lol).
GO BION!!
Off to bed, I was going to try and look thru the links and look at more posts, but it's taking 1-2 min. each time I click in Ihub (or times out), not sure why always so slow from my home. Worse is just getting worser....
:)
Go BION!!
Ummmm, Hmmmmm, Ughhhh, ?????
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Funny.
Runnerup, I've read a good bit of all this, perhaps most all; I don't know what my take is on all of this. We're only hearing one side of a story, that might just be that (a story). I've not yet studied what all is within the links that have been posted. I work during the day, and then obligations (teenagers/homechores) when I get home.
I'm going to look back thru things, as I've not read the latest posts. However, I'd suggest everyone to use their own good judgment, Lord knows I'm not always the best in judgement. This is all consuming for me, it is dissappointing to hear this stuff, whether it be half true or not. Who has the time these days for this sort of crap.
So, for now, I'm going to look back and study this stuff before I have to head to bed.
Just a shame, and like Swikey and Tex said, if people would just "do the right thing" and, in my life, I have the good guidance that I need. Thanks to the Dear Lord, I can keep my conscience clean, and by all that, I'm a joyful person indeed - regardless of what life throws at me. How do people sleep at night... sigh (I feel sorry for so many).
Money, psssh - I'm just thankful I have a decent job, a roof over my head, food in my fridge, a little golf when I can - two boys and a dog that I love, and just so thankful for all my many blessings, Thank you Jesus - my true blessings have been free. Sincerely, TW
PSSH, you're grasping at straws.
LR8, I know what you mean about my post. I resented being put in that spot, and hesitated about posting what they asked me to post. But, then I thought about what they had stated about the shareholder was hoping not to have to flood the market with that many shares by putting it on the market, as it would have brought down the stock, so I followed thru with their request. I don't know of its ethics either - but the person that requested me to do it is/should def be - knowlegeable of the ethics.
I fretted over that mess too.
FlaFlyersfan, you were the moderator for a while and seemed quite educated with a lot of Bionitrogen's history. If perhaps you find yourself with a little time, could you please read the latest posts and give us your take on what might be going on here.
Would be very much appreciated.
AC, all you have to do is request to be a moderator. There are no special priveliges (sp??) (can't spell anymore) though.
I can't communicate any one here later (not much anyway) very busy at work. But, Texas, the shareholders don't seem to be divided, just us against Roni, or BK/Roni - I'm not sure, but that is a guess.
Good luck all, and I'm hating this stuff. It was all in such harmony here before.
Just use your own due diligence in making up your mind, it will all come out soon, and perhaps we'll all be surprised & pleased. Again as another post stated, that Annon thing is under litigation (per the qtrly reports) as to its validity(sp??)
Not sure who the legal council for BION is now, but, it all was stated in the qtrly rpt. below, they are confirming the "validity of the loan" and, I'd bet for fraudulent reasons, it comes out that it wasn't "valid".
Also, I do bet BK and his clonies, rodies, whatever did incorporate "Annon Consulting" (as Swikey's theory is) just so they could rip off BION, because BK knew they wouldn't (and he would make sure they couldn't) payoff that money before that deadline.
I googled Annon Consulting, it was no where to be found (that I found) prior to Dec. 2013 (when they entered into the loan). yes, some company (not). No wonder Carlos won't negotiate...
And, as the below reads which was taken from the OTC Report, that loan, the terms, and everything is being investigated.
No longer am I worried much about this mess. We see what is going on now. And, no wonder you have no bad words, ill feeling etc. towards BK.
http://www.otcmarkets.com/financialReportViewer?symbol=BION&id=139072
pg. 12
yep... And Amen.
Perhaps the $1,000,000 loan from Annon was never even paid towards the cost of engineering and the money was squandered by BK - what do you think about that Roni?
You say you want the company to succeed, but your actions say otherwise...a If you hold and will hold so much stock, If you were so interested in the company's wellbeing, you would have continued your quams with Carlos, and e.t.a.l. without ruffling up this board of shareholders. I know you said he wouldn't come to his senses, but now you've got consequences that will offset your nonsense.
You'd do yourself a favor just by fessing up to who you are, and what your ulterior (sp??) motives are.
What was your main objective when you brought this mess to this board?
What good is 55% of the company - since from what you say, if Carlos doesn't settle, there is no company?
Curious as to what you might have to say about all of this?
Oh Heavens, what is going on here?? I left work early Friday, just now looking on this board. Not much is usually going on over the weekend... Haven't read much yet (read some headlines), seems so much to catch up on. Grief - what the heck is going on?
Perhaps I'll comment after all is read, perhaps I won't know what to say.
Okay, hear me out... there is an investor that has a very, very, large amount of shares. They want to sell only some of them (perhaps they need $), I don't know and didn't ask.
So, there is a block (good size block) of shares they will sell at a discounted price. Don't ask me questions about this, cuz I don't know more,didn't ask more, and don't care more. I just know if you want a good size block of shares at a "good" discounted price, I've been told you can call Adam and he can help with this. I just stumbled upon this information in a conversation, and mentioned that I would post the info.
The end, the end, the end... again don't ask me anything, I didn't get nosey, therefore - I don't know anymore than I've stated.
tw
Indicted in Spanish means accused of, he has not been indicted in the terms as we know it. This article didn't bother me, seemed more political and mostly a way to appease the one accusing. And, I think it said 10 years had went by before the event was even thought about. I found the original article, and noticed the translation of the one posted was a bit different than the original.
Anyway, GO BION!!