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Sorry I'm missing the link between this statement:
Nothing, maybe one day we know what happened, but as far as we know now, btzo is worth zero
That's extreme! Could they explain the restrictions? Maybe it helps to talk with them to see if the restrictions can be lifted? In the end, it could help all of us a lot.
Could it help if traders who are trading with brokers that still have the DTC chill in place, contact the service desk of these brokers?
Yep good old times ??
COL ... like FCOL (For Crying Out Loud) but this time I’m Crying out Loud for not selling my shares back then
Yeah me too... just sorry I never sold COL LOL
Pacific Ethanol EPS misses by $0.41, misses on revenue
Usually that means we move up LOL
Maybe you should have explained the relation between the article about woody biomass en GERS a bit more.
Not every article about bio fuels seems related to GERS, so a little more information about how it related to GERS, might do the trick
Probably read your post and realized he forgot something LOL.
Great he’s back!
Great to read....Did the court ignored all the latest delay attempts by the defendants?
Little volume...not much buying interest either, but I think some are smart enough to avoid letting this drop to the trips.
But if it does, I will find the resources to enlarge my position.
Wish I was the one buying at that price
Thanks for your reply. Interesting information (mostly for those who care about anything else but the litigation outcome.)
I started wondering if we did own any shares of Attis as some seemed to suggest in their posts. To me personally it doesn’t matter, cause my play is the litigation. But I got curious.
How large is the stake Attis took into GERS and did we get the same stake in Attis?
The stake Attis took in GERS doesn’t include the windfall of the litigation. Are there also limitations to what we ‘own’ in our attis share?
I also wonder about the reason Attis is not filing. It could have something to do with that they would need to present GERS’s numbers too
To me it’s the battle in court that counts. I don’t think that I will stick around to see the saga continue with Valero. The money from this lawsuit might be enough for me to count my blessings.
No I know it!
Please follow the flow chart:
http://www.cafc.uscourts.gov/sites/default/files/rules-of-practice/notices/Life_of_an_Appeal_Narrative_and_flowchart.pdf
Oral arguments are set for December, and even if those are delayed, it won’t be much longer.
Are close to the moon? It all depends on what point you are looking from. We are if you look from the perspective of the galaxy. We aren’t if you look at is being close to an overflying bird.
Are we close to the end of the lawsuit? As I told you I’m looking from the perspective of the whole process. We know we got over 9 years behind us (where we didn’t know how long we still had) and we now know there is only one year at the most left. That seems pretty close to me.
But if you look from the perspective as should we notice something from it yet, then we aren’t close enough. But from the perspective I always have been talking about, this is the final phase.
"No one has defined "the final stage" of a lawsuit."
Well it seemed like you told me "Greenshift is not in "the final phase of the lawsuit", so how can you tell me this isn't the final phase if there isn't a definition?
You might find it the final stage if there are only weeks to go, if there is news and there are settlements announced.
I find it the final stage if we have been waiting for over 9 years, with no idea what soever of how long it could continue. And now we know where we stand, there is a time path, a flow chart telling us this can't last longer then a year. We now know what we didn't know the past 9 years. This is coming to an end within a year.
with at the most 10% of the time used for this lawsuit left on the clock, I call it the final phase or final stage.
Please share links to your proof that, when a lawsuit comes (after nine years) to the point of the final appeal, where only the oral arguments are remaining, with less then a year to go before the final decision, is not allowed be called the final stage of the lawsuit.
If you don't buy what they say, then why worry about the miss?
Even 50% is high enough for most. And if their PR's are completely worthless, then the 50% isn't worthless to, so no reason to make a point out of it.
It's either good or worthless, I'm just saying that 50% of previously stated amounts isn't worthless to me. To me, it still seems like huge step forward, looking at all the people saying that Mexus will not produce gold at all.
"Greenshift is not in "the final phase of the lawsuit". As I stated months ago, if we were really in the final phase, some of the two dozen defendants would have settled for the best terms that their lawyers thought that they could get. Others would've had a judgment either for or against them."
The lawsuit by GERS has been going on for almost 10 years..
If you look at the Flow Chart you'll know that the lawsuit will probably be over within a year. There is no appeal after that.
This is the final appeal, there are the oral arguments which are scheduled in December, and after that it's time for the judges to reach their decisions, their might be a rehearing, but like Nobody12378 stated before, that is only a formality, with little change of the decision to be changed. And that rehearing happens in a short time.
So yes, we are in the final phase. Like it or not.
I you say that in that phase "some of the two dozen defendants would have settled for the best terms that their lawyers thought that they could get. Others would've had a judgment either for or against them." please share your links stating that that should happen before we are allowed to call it the final phase.
"1 step forward and 2 back. "
Like learningthetruth says:
"20 ounces a day on an annual basis is $11 million......."
If that's one step forward and two steps back, then please let MXSG keep on walking!
"But one wonders why they didn't get that plant down right away?"
Probably it involves some costs. Now that the production is on its way, it might be easier to pay for this 'upgrade' without people (who didn't even invest in MXSG) whining about Mexus investing in the production before producing any gold. On the other hand, some always find reasons to whine.
“I'm disappointed in the slow pace of this lawsuit”
Do you think that those who have been investing into GERS for years, watching GERS dilute over and over, causing a RS over and over, finally getting to the final phase of the lawsuit, knowing that dilution is over (thanks to no filing) should feel unhappy about the speed of this final appeal (keeping this flowchart in mind: http://www.cafc.uscourts.gov/sites/default/files/rules-of-practice/notices/Life_of_an_Appeal_Narrative_and_flowchart.pdf)?
OUCH!!
Yes, the lawsuit is my only reason to buy this stock. It’s simple IMO. If they lose the lawsuit, GERS is done. If they win, I make a lot of money.
“Why would you buy this if the price goes down that low?”
Because I keep my eye on the right ball!
It would make great buying opportunities. I hope GERS drops towards 1 cent.
It means that I had a typo, and that you can fill it in yourself.
Somebody bought a cheap 6000 pieces, I envy him.
I see no drop in price since the last year, so no worries.
That’s why his statement “once we got current, there would be little that we could do to protect you without breaching our debt agreements. I’m not going to allow any of that to happen. Not again. “ is probably still valid, and he has reason not to file.
“Kevin's actions and inactions (the lack of SEC filings for about two years) have IMHO been the cause of the sharp drop in the price during the past six months.”
LOL I take these drops above the ones that happened when he was still filling.
“GERS has said filings would allow debt to convert and we won’t get financials until this litigation is complete”
Not exactly. KK said:
“We’re working on our filings while we finalize restructuring agreements with our lenders. While we’re targeting year-end to get everything done, our reports will be delayed if execution of the restructuring agreements is delayed. If that occurs, it will be to mitigate the risk of dilution. “
So it might be sooner, but I think the restructuring hasn’t happened yet.
There can always be defendants that have the feeling they will lose in court, and think they don’t have the resources to survive that.
If such a defendant offers Greenshift enough, and GERS knows they might have a harder time getting this money in case the defendant goes bankrupt, then why wouldn’t GERS settle in such a case with that defendant?
It doesn’t mean they need to settle with all defendants.
Significant gold recovery expected by September 1st.
Might be the last day to get these cheap shares. All aboard!!!
Now that’s the stuff that really scares me! You just painted the nightmare I’ve been having every night! LOL
So? I did say”What is the news, if the oral arguments where already planned, just not scheduled?”
So to you it is news when a date is set, while you know is going to be set anytime soon? It was set for calendaring for a while.
If that’s the standard for news, you can be surprised for a stock not reacting to it very frequently.
“There was news last week”
Where did you read it? An newspaper, an investing blog? The only place where it was shares was probably here and on the skunk blog. Places mostly investors in GERS come. Not the typical place you find new investors with that ‘news’
And is it even news if you know it was coming around this time, only saying it will still be a while? What is the news, if the oral arguments where already planned, just not scheduled? There already was ‘news’ that the defendants wanted it later then GERS.
I don’t think that’s news that should get GERS trading. Neither is it when the arguments start according to plan. News might be what is being said, but only if it is shared to a broader public it will do anything, or if an shareholder visiting the hearings will see a reason to buy more.