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I Agree 100% with the last post. EOM
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By: bullishonstocks $$
Tuesday, 14 Nov 2000 at 1:48 PM EST
OT: Here ya go!!A Message to All STRU Longs.
There is nothing more humorous that reading the STRU board.
So many people out for their own self-interests.
What's great about the recent delays & price drops is that it forces all the true longs to take a
hard look at themselves and their commitment to a company.
Bashers will always be bashers just like the only certainties in life are death & taxes.
I found it rather hypocritical prior to Christmas time when everyone was bashing management because no news was announced except for the BSF PR. No price movement = frustration at management.
Suddenly the price starts moving. Yet again, no news from the company. But suddenly everyone
is gleeful and joyous.
Observation: It's not about the company, it's about the share price.
Come to think of it, it's always about the share price for some of you isn't it?
After all, if STRU was still trading above 50 cents, would the "credibility" issue of Doug & STRU even be raised? I doubt it. Lately it seems like a few longs have expressed their frustration and have attacked management on "who can be trusted."
My opinion is that it's not really about trust. Your lack of trust says more about the type of person
& investor you are than it does about STRU management.
What if STRU held it's base above 50 cents? Would the sudden issue of "lack of trust & credibility" still be an issue? What if STRU kept going up past 75 cents? Would these so-called "investors" be so concerned about management or would they be singing the praises of management?
The hypocrisy is evident folks. Most of you are SO INSECURE about your investment that you cannot stomach a price drop here or there. You cannot withstand the fact that there might be certain delays due to uncontrollable circumstances. You fall prey to occasional MM shakedowns and have joined the basher ranks by selling now HOPING ONLY (and the key word is "hope") to scoop up cheap shares. You are so emotional that when STRU is up on no real news but rather rumors (late December), you jump for glee and when it drops, you start to question management.
This is all reminiscent of the so-called "Front Runner" theory of sports fans. When times are going good, you want to take credit for being a supporter; when times are bad, you start to whine & complain and ask for a coaching change even though all of the players remain the same.
The difference between STRU and sports teams is that none of you realize how much STRU has done the past year in addition the past few weeks. There has never been a better time to own STRU.
There are alot of unselfish people out there doing all the DD for some of you. There are too many to mention but I know all of you know who you are. You are the true STRU diehards and will be rewarded in the end. For the rest of you, you still can't see what's really going on because you are only fixated in only one thing: stock price.
Did it ever occur to you that there are probably things right now beyong STRU's control?
Let's say hypothetically that the deal is signed, if so, would you really believe it if the PR came from STRU? I doubt it. I firmly believe that it's up to the "other" company at this point. Doug and Rhett are busy behind the scenes moving this company forward each and every day. Having spoken to them, I have no doubt whatsoever we will be rewarded very soon.
That being said, I really want to challenge all of the true STRU Longs out there to really examine why you own this stock. Of course we all have our own reasons and we make decisions separately. If you truly have done your research and DD, these delays & price drops are relatively unimportant.
When you are young and patient and hold quite a number of shares as I do, you have the luxury of seeing STRU 3-5 years from now. When I first purchased this stock back in May, it was purely for a rebound play and a quick turn around sell. Yet the more I learned about the company, the more I realized the potential and the longer I planned to hold. I vividly remember how my valuations for STRU has evolved from 25 cents, 1.00, 3.50, 10.00,
20.00 and now 50.00. Some of you can't fathom STRU hitting 1.00. Then again, some of you have as much patience as a microwave oven.
What's another 3-5 years when I have the rest of my life to enjoy how STRU can not only change
my life, but my future family, kids, grandkids, etc?
I've shared this before and I'll share it again. I have NEVER held a stock that has this much potential and I seriously doubt I ever will again. When the dusts has settled a few years from now, STRU will have changed many many lives along the way.
We, as individuals, all have our own trading strategies and bought or sold STRU based on different needs. The purpose of this posts is not to "cheerlead" or to convince you to buy or hold, because in the end, it doesn't really matter. When you have a long term vision and a long term commitment, you make good on that promise.
Personally, it wouldn't bother me one bit for some of you to liquidate your position on STRU. If you don't have what it takes to be a true investor, I'd rather you not be around and profit in the end.
What may be hard for many of you longs is that despite all of the extensive DD, phone calls, & thousands of postings you've read on this board, you still have no faith because your faith is based upon one shallow thing. Share price. That being the case, you let the fluctuations of share price dictate your emotional state and
decision making.
All I can say is, I'm glad I don't have you managing my funds.
There is nothing wrong with expressing frustration and dissapointment. Then again, not all investors are built the same. When you have a long term commitment and have seen the light, these minor petty price drops, these silly bashers, all of the *****ing and moaning on the board is nothing more than amusement. Pity the fool who cannot separate truth from reality. To equate "truth" with "today's share price" is about as accurate as saying the Earth is flat.
What's a few extra days and weeks in the course of a few years of patience and a lifetime of
rewards?
Ultimately, it's your decision, it's your money, it's your life. In the beginning of a marathon, everyone starts at the finish line, yet in the end only a few people can have the fortitude to finish in the Top 10 or Top 20.
Hopefully I will see a few familiar faces a few years from now. And for the rest of you, hopefully I
won't.
Cheers
Voluntary Disclosure: Strong Buy : Long and Short Term
magnumforce, I beleive he is going to Germany and then on to Spain.
If he goes anywhere is, I am not aware of it. The time length could be
from 1 to three weeks, depending upon how the meetings go.
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StormDrifter, You are welcome, but investorshub actually provides it for us.
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TEK, it is true, we ALL were expecting numbers from the metting. And when they did not come, everyone knew it was going to drop.
BUT, playing the dips and spikes on the pinks isn't always easy.
EX: Monday I tried to sell some at .60 when bid/ask was 60X61
Then the bid/ask went to .61X.62
Then it went to .61X63
Then back to .61X62
Then to .60X.61
Then to .59X..60
Then on down from there.
My trade was NEVER executed. The MMs are still playing and are selective on which trades they will execute.
Kust a heads up if anyone is thinking about playing the pinks. Ain't easy.
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RMG110, don't be too hard with TEK. He just described the entire Stockmarket in general. No biggy.
Every time any stock goes up and comes down, they can call it a pump & dump when in fact it is just the normal gyrations of the investors buying and selling with the flow of news OR no news.
Think TEK my be feeling the symptons of Pinkcitis as we ALL are.
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TEK, You have just described over 90 percent of OTC Stockmarket. Nothing new here. Hope you didn't just realized this with your STRU investment? It happens will ALMOST ALL stock No Matter what EXCHANGE they are on.
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BlackDiamond, To change your email do the folowing -
Click on your mailbox menu item on the top bar.
You will see another option to edit profile.
In the profile you may enter your public email and a private email.
If you encounter any problems, please let me know.
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EMAIL FROM DOUG BEATTY: By: JCraigSimon
Saturday, 4 Nov 2000 at 5:22 PM EST
EMAIL FROM DOUG BEATTY:
Thanks Jeff...great store for our organic wheat and possible Natural breading and BBQ sauce...which is great...we have had a great deal of interest in these mixes since our PR which was really aimed at the whole foods market...and it worked....you will notice that the recent PRs have more of an education and underlying sales theme to them ....we are attracting more potential clients not just nationally but internationally as well, (hence my trip to Munich and the Spain Expo) from these expanded PRs while educating the SH and broker base.
Obviously not all PRs will be as extensive as Daymon (huge potential) or some of the follow-ups from our meeting (we will add numbers where posible but don't want to hype), but to expand on the Company and its potential has worked extremely well and have created a great deal of interest which has found its way into the marketplace. I hope you are as pleased as we are from the way I wrote those PRs and had everyone's input...again these will be combined and re-released following our listing as I truly believe they will have a greater impact when listed.
The brokers I have spoken to have given us some great Ideas to reach the investment community who don't normally read the "pinks". I am also doing an interview at 4:30 today with www.WallStreetNews.com not paid for but they will likely ask for some type of payment for future interviews ...we will see. A few more interviews before leaving for Munich and Spain Tuesday. I will update all investors and the public about the interviews which we will be doing weekly to the investment community on the progress we are making. Off the pinks we should see the impact grow IMHO.
Look forward to letting everyone know the dates and places where folks can here or read these interviews. These interviews will be done by members of the team in different areas of the Family of Companies. The exposure should help tremendously while building up to relisting. Which I pray will be soon!
While IMHO the share price is not truly reflecting the nature of the news...great exposure of our products to the end consumer is happening very nicely. Which will refect in the Q's. As a fully reporting Corp. the Q's will be helpful and show our progress along with future news when released. Thank you again for the link,
Warmly,
Douglas
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Voluntary Disclosure: Strong Buy : Long and Short Term
Highlites from Nov 3rd Interview of Struthers CEO by WallStreet Reporter -
* STRU has the TOP Swine Genetics in the U.S.
* STRU first in the world to be to implant embryos anywhere in the WORLD. With STRU's ability to wash the embryo free of diseases makes this very attractive.
* With ET, STRU has ability to change an entire herd genetics in 180 days verses 7years. First in the world to achieve this.
* STRU first in the world to NO-SURGICALLY implant an embryo successfully made possible by the Gourley Scope.
*STRU only company in world that has the Gourley Scope.
* Gourley Scope allows farmer to implant the sow outside the lab in an non-sterile environment. Implant time avage 30 - 60 seconds while sow is standing and eating. STRU, again, first in the world to achieve this.
* STRU has business agreements with Daymon and SYSCO to provide products to institutions, hotels, and restaurants.
* SYSCO approached Struthers for the agreement. SYSCO is a 11bil company, 2nd largest distributor in the U.S.
* Wallstreet does not fully understand what Struthers is ALL about. YET!!!!
* Struthers is dedicated to keeping the Family Farm ON the Family Farm.
*Will see Struthers products on Store shelvs in the coming months.
*Procine industry in the U.S. is a 64billion dollar industry and Struthers is planning to take 10percent of the market.
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Robert, I totally agree, great post. eom
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OT - Confession of a Basher is a HOAX - Read -
Please Read the BOLD Type
A Basher’s Confession
By Giando Argentina
Published by OTCNN.com
11/02/2000 10:20 AM EST
November 1, 2000 was a day that many OTCBB investors were waiting for, the final proof that there is a job description of “Paid Basher.” It came as a shock to many and finally after years of speculation a confession appeared. If you have not yet seen the post it simply means you we not reading message boards yesterday. After being posted at 11:51 Eastern Time, it ended up being the topic of conversation on a large portion of Raging Bull message boards, then filtering out to other online communities.
Any investor who frequents message boards and participates in the OTCBB market is familiar with the paid basher myth. Now that the proof has possibly surfaced, a confession by a basher actually employed by a bashing company, who decided for whatever reason to come clean and expose the whole deplorable lifestyle of a basher, will it change the way we invest or even treat our fellow posters on message boards?
Here are some excerpts from this now famous post: “Today I want to come clean about something I feel very badly about. I cannot undo some of the things I have done, but hopefully this message will prevent other such occurrences in the future.”
He goes on to explain: “Yes, it is true. Today is my last day at this company; I’m moving on to a new job. But before I go, I want to explain a few things because this just isn’t right and I won’t feel good about myself until I expose this sham. It’s hurt too many people and I don’t want it on my conscience anymore. I can no longer live with a lie.”
Incredible right? Well there’s much more: “I work for a company called Franklin, Andrews, Kramer & Edelstein in Stamford, CT. Basically, it’s a Boiler Room much like the one in the movie of the same name. The idea behind my group is to bash the price of a company’s stock down low enough to where the group of investors who retained our company’s services can buy the stock really cheap and perhaps even take it over all together.”
He also explains the salary and bonus plan, although it is unclear whether the company offers benefits such as health insurance and 401(k) as well: “I was paid a base wage of $12 an hour for my services. I was given a $1 bonus for every post over 100 per day as well as a monthly bonus of $100 for every penny the stock had dropped from the previous month. I was also paid a bonus for bashing on weekends. While this may not sound like much, I made a decent, though dishonorable, paycheck.”
In his closing he does seem to have some genuine remorse. Another excerpt: “I have to go now, I’m too broken up to continue. I hope this confession can make up for my sordid deeds; I would urge everyone who reads this to copy and repost it as many times as you can. Only by shining the light of truth can we drive these rats back into the darkness from whence they came. Believe me, they don’t want publicity.”
To read the original post in its entirety before the many cut and paste jobs: http://www.ragingbull.altavista.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=BIFS&read=219456.
And please read all the way to the bottom, past where you may think the post ends.
The post was actually a joke, and only by reading all the way to the bottom could the reader notice the “and if you believe this…lol.” In the haste to cut and paste the post the last line was lost. A few words with the author of the post, online alias, firebird_1965:
Giando: The paid basher post you authored is spreading through the message boards as if it were a great vindication for the believers of paid bashing as a profession, what was your motive behind writing it?
Steve: Actually, to be honest, it’s as simple as I was getting bored - nothing more. Our room was getting stale and sinking into a rut of childish name-calling. That’s no fun, and not much of a challenge. It was Halloween and I thought this might be a good way to liven things up and change the direction of the conversation. People really want to believe there are paid bashers lurking just off screen, so like any good performer, I gave the people what they wanted. The really fun part is that although the motivation behind the post is quite simple, people would rather read something sinister into it.
Giando: Why do you feel investors are so ready and willing to believe that there is a group of people that make a living bashing stocks?
Steve: They don’t want to face reality. Everyone wants to think they’ve caught lightning in a bottle, that they’ve found the next Microsoft, the next Oracle, etc. To them, it makes more sense that there must be some deep, dark conspiracy out there intent on destroying some obscure penny stock company that 99.99 percent of America has never heard of.
That’s easier to take than the truth – that is, that penny stocks are at best a big risk and perhaps they picked the wrong horse. No one wants to be wrong. So rather than admit a mistake, they’d rather believe in some unseen boogeyman, which is okay by me – it makes things like “Confession of a Paid Basher” that much easier to pull off.
Giando: The original post contained a line far at the bottom indicating it was a joke, in the multitude of cut and pastes that line was lost, what lesson do you think can be learned from this?
Steve: Read EVERYTHING and DON’T believe everything you read. There’s a simple saying that I live by that has always served me well, “If it sounds to good to be true, it probably is.” Anyone who invests in penny stocks or who reads stock message boards should heed that saying every moment of the day. Because if you don’t, you’ll fall prey to an equally valid adage, “There’s a sucker born every minute…” I’m certainly amused, but also a little dismayed at how few people actually read the post. I left plenty of clues throughout that even someone who had never visited our board should have picked up on. Take the name of the bashing company, for example. The name Franklin, Andrews, Kramer and Edelstein form the acronym FAKE. That, in and of itself, should have been a dead give away whether you saw the line at the bottom of the original or not. I did put several carriage returns after the signature line before the “and if you believe this…” close. I made sure each carriage return was marked with a period (which is not normally found at the end of a post) to entice people to look further down. Once it was cut and pasted, few bothered to include that line, which I thought might happen, but even the people on my own message board often failed to read beyond the apparent end, ignoring the line of periods that mysteriously beckoned them on. In a way, that’s funny. But it’s also sad because it shows people aren’t that careful and would rather believe the easy than think about it for a second.
Giando: Some appreciated the humor while many more obviously felt it was a true confession of a paid basher, do you feel you accomplished your goal?
Steve: Absolutely. I never dreamed it would get that far so quick, so that shows you the awesome power of the Internet. People have written how this post will become an Internet legend and how it was the funniest thing they’ve ever read. Hey, that’s pretty flattering, I must admit. I expected the furor to last about an hour then fade away. I’m more than a little surprised and shocked it has gone this far. However, I have gotten several e-mails from people congratulating me on my “courage” and asking me to help them identify and root out the bashers on their boards. To be honest, when I read these e-mails, I don’t know whether to laugh at the sheer naiveté or cringe at the absolute gullibility of people. Let me say that I am not a basher. My goal in any post is to stir up discussion and ignite passion. I am not here to cheat people or manipulate stock. In fact, I have never owned any stock of the company discussed on that message board. I consider myself more like the “bad guy” in professional wrestling. I’m someone the crowd can boo and hiss. And like the bad guy in professional wrestling, I do things in an over-the-top manner. I’m there to entertain, pure and simple. What makes that board and several others fun is that people take what they read there way too seriously and without a proper framework of objectivity.
Your story about the “cult-like” atmosphere of many boards is absolutely correct. These message board posters so want to believe their stock is literally “going to the moon” once the next press release comes out that they set themselves up for something like this. They would rather believe that sinister forces are out to manipulate their stock for some evil purpose than to stop and realize that they are the ones being manipulated – not by some dastardly boiler room full of bashers, but by someone who is having a little fun at the expense of their overripe zeal.
To those who got the joke and appreciated it, I congratulate you on your common sense and your sense of humor. To those who believed it, well… I think I’ve said enough.
Cheers
Voluntary Disclosure: Strong Buy : Long and Short Term
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2000% GAINS IN NEAR FUTURE - PORK
EMBRYO TRANSFER WILL CHANGE
BREEDING OF SOWS..
Struthers has just solved the problems that have been plaguing the pork industry for centuries..
They have an astounding new embryo transfer method, that originates from their semen
collection facility.. Estimates are that within the next year, by 2002 that 80-85% of ALL sows
impregnated will be with embryo transfer, and Struthers is poised to do just that.. Their new
state of the art, semen collection faciilty, and hospital is to open in the first quarter of 2000..
and within the first year from semen collection alone, expected profits of $14,000,000.00 will be
made.. This is a stock that could change your life!! Get in now, buy strong.. lots of 10,000 at
least!! Good Luck.. See you in Maui.. From you personal Nasdaq Nemesis
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Take a Look - Try this one -
http://www.iexchange.com/ii/sl?sidii=841oyvqbrh.s26az&s=196612&pid=1dCr1Rlng12dZpWAQkuboP&area=frms
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Please All Take a Look -
https://www.iexchange.com/ii/sl?sidii=841oyvqbrh.s26az&s=196612&pid=1dCr1Rlng12dZpWAQkuboP&area=frms
Its about STRU
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Very Interesting, look at the bold type.
SEC Trading Halts And the “Pink Sheets”
By Giando Argentina
Published by OTCNN.com
10/31/2000 10:36 AM EST
I received a question from a reader regarding the status and procedures of trading halts and subsequent ability to be re quoted on the OTCBB. I will try my best to explain the process and hopefully familiarize investors with the ins and outs of halts. While there are different reasons for trading halts, I will focus on SEC imposed 10 day trading halts.
Out of 10 securities receiving the 10-day trading halt from the SEC and subsequent quotation on the “Pink Sheets” this year, none have regained quotation on the OTCBB. The trading halts were enforced due to “questions that have been raised about the accuracy and adequacy of publicly disseminated information.” While the specifics differ for different companies the idea is basically the same. A popular misconception about the SEC imposed trading halts is that the SEC is responsible for preventing companies from being quoted on the OTCBB. Actually the mechanics of the OTCBB are somewhat different from the other markets. Stocks are not listed on the OTCBB but quoted. In other words, the NASD has no business relationship with the companies themselves and it is up to the Market Maker to either opt to quote or not quote a particular stock.
The Market Makers then have a responsibility of performing due diligence on the company and send the NASD the proper periodic data of the company. Whether that is right or wrong, it is not for me to say, it’s just the way the rules are currently written. When the SEC suspends a stock from trading the Market Makers must then perform their due diligence and be certain that the company does not pose a likely risk for investors to be defrauded.
So basically it is not up to the SEC to allow stocks to be quoted on the OTCBB once the 10-day suspension has passed but it is up to a Market Maker to file the necessary forms to quote an issue on the OTCBB. With an SEC trading halt the underlying idea is to prevent investors from being placed at risk from investing in a questionable company. Public opinion many times focuses on the fact that the SEC at times is either too slow or too fast at imposing a trading halt. When it is time for the stock to be quoted on the OTCBB again then the blame falls on the Market Maker and the perceived idea that they benefit from not quoting a stock on the OTCBB. The Market Makers under current rules are in a no win situation, if they refuse to quote a stock on the OTCBB the public berates them but if they quote a questionable stock on the OTCBB and the company turns out to be fraudulent after a halt is imposed they could be held liable.
Regardless of the reason behind an SEC imposed trading halt, current investors will not be satisfied as they stand to lose a considerable amount of money. The idea is to help future investors understand that there are questions regarding the company that may not have been answered satisfactorily. Either way SEC imposed trading halts are not to be taken lightly as all companies subjected to it this year have yet to recover.
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Must Read - By: kenscons
Tuesday, 31 Oct 2000 at 9:55 AM EST
Porkpie, actually I was satisfied. I really wasn't interested in the actual numbers to the alliance herd although having numbers on the Sysco contract would have been nice. What upset me was the way that I thought managment sidestepped the issue of the figures. Like I said there, I thought the 2 questions previously asked were valid and deserved better answers even though they felt they couldn't give figures. When David Diebold gave his explanation and after I talked w/ Ken Remley I was happy.
One thing a lot of people don't realize is that there were 2 people from the Nasd and SEC there in person and that had STRU quite nervous. They were afraid of saying anything that would throw them back into comments. They are trying to avoid that at all costs.
Ken
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S/H Mtg By: ALANR
Monday, 30 Oct 2000 at 2:04 AM EST
Hello one and all......Just got back from Charleston and what am I doing at 1 AM, instead of going to bed I am writng my fellow Struer's...
Have to admit I was extremely happy that I went to the SHM...I wouldn't have missed it for the world. Only God could have stopped me, one way or another.
First let me say I was very happy to meet many more of my fellow STRU shareholders. The family is growing and all these people make this stock more than just an investment. All I can say is, this is not your ordinary stock or investment, Struthers is building a company of familes as we ourselves build frienships that could last a liftime.
I will make this rather quick because it is very late and need to spend a little time with my wife Linda before she wacks me over the head with a frying pan....
I will mention just a few things that should be highlighted from the days event.
1) Sysco...Sysco will now have a premium Line of pork to offer to their customers. Something they never had before.
Shipments will start on November 27th. I hope the investment community can understand how really, really HUGE this is...They are the laregest distributor in the WORLD.......
2)Daymon Associates...Who are they.. Daymon Associates is an international company specializing in the sales and marketing of Private Label consumer products. They deal with 350,000 Major restaurants, Nationally and Internationally....Dayman is Sysco's marketing arm bringing to Struthers approx. 415 sales representatives.
3)Super Value Stores....there are 1000 throughout the United States...These stores now will carry our Natrual dry goods line of products, such as Barbeque mix, barbeque sauce, organic flour, etc....this in road to Super Value nows opens the door to our meat produts which we will hear about in the near future.
4)We know have the rights to a product called InsemmaGel (not sure that is the correct spelling) ..what this does, when incoporated with a protien mix and semen extender and the semmen it put's everything in a type of suspened animation. Put this complete mixture in a tube, toss it on your desk for a couple of weeks and when it is warmed up it is ready to use and is as good as the day that semen was put into the tube...(A better explanation will follow).
5) Mark Anderson, our Consultant in the Phillipines(Pacific Rim)and 2 other Represenatives from that area were flown in to attend the SHM. The Agri-Link Show, held on Oct.19-21 met and exceeded all expectations. Communication with the following countries are now taking place because of our presence in the show, Vietnam, Laos, Thialand, Cambodia and CHINA......The International Market is now opening up for STRU and again can you say.....REALLY, REALLY HUGE....
There are other things I will post on at a later date... As I said it was a very positive meeting important to us but the one on one conversations with all the guests that were there were just as important. It was a pleasure to talk to and ask questions to Doug, Rhett, Ken, Vanja, Frances, David, Brent, Dr. Carlson, Dr, Bowdan, Randy Muller, Dr. Gourley, Mariano, Richard Lane and Bob Chiari. It was a day totally filled with conversation. The informative talks that were had by all, were priceless.
Nothing has changed in my mind, we have a GREAT company and I am proud to be a shareholder in this company and also very proud Doug, Rhett and all the others I mentioned above our part of the great team that will take this company to hieghts and those heights will go beyond our wildest dreams....
Alan
Don't forget our e-commerce site...order the meat you today or any day at..... http://www.tenderprime.com/
Cheers
Voluntary Disclosure: Strong Buy : Long and Short Term
ENTERPRISE/TRIAD DEAL: By: Raskolnikov
Monday, 30 Oct 2000 at 1:13 AM EST
ENTERPRISE/TRIAD DEAL:
TWO THINGS:
1. STRU is still working out some of the details with EMG. This has to be completed.
2. The new USDA Label. Brent said if STRU can get the label in the next 1-2 months, then they might wait but if it was going to take 6 months, they would go ahead without it. Enterprise/Triad can't afford to wait much longer. They will lose too much money by waiting. They have supermarkets that want the meat and are waiting for the meat. (Kroger and Piggly Wiggly I believe)
The holdup is this: STRU is waiting for an inspector from the USDA to actually go out into the field and verify how STRU is raising the hogs, etc. The problem is getting someone to verify the process and nobody knows how long that is going to take.
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S/H MTG By: Raskolnikov
Sunday, 29 Oct 2000 at 11:33 PM EST
talked to many people this weekend... Dr. Carlson, Brent Legred, Don Bowden, etc.... one thing you hear in common is this.......
"Struthers has tremendous potential....they have the genetics, tremendous technology that no one else has and they have the ability to change the porcine industry."
Regarding Sysco: Dr Carlson said to my wife and I... "The shareholders simply don't understand the importance of the Sysco vendor number....the SYSCO deal is ENORMOUS!!! And he said it VERY EMPHATICALLY!!!
The growth in the next 1-2 years could be tremendous.
Brent Legred is so sharp....we talked at great length. One thing he said is: "It will take us about 3 years to get to where we want to be."....i.e. to reach their current goals (which are very ambitious).
Dave Diebold said to me and ScottT33 that he thought STRU would be growing exponentially with Sysco by March, 2001. (i.e. We are starting out with just 1 of Sysco's 101 distribution centers....in order to get down the logistics and make sure all details are worked out and things are running smoothly....then STRU will begin to supply additional distribution centers until they are supplying all of them).
Please understand how ENORMOUS this opportunity is for Struthers. Also PLEASE REMEMBER THIS. STRU will provide the pork for Sysco's Supreme Line (which is their very highest quality line). Imagine the advantage STRU will have when marketing to other companies and they can say that they provide the top of the line pork for Sysco, which is the largest food distribution company in the U.S.
More later!!!!!
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bleckgirl, she is doing fine. Thank you for caring.
We are relieved that all was negative. Now we can proceed as before, two happy larks.
Cheers,
Lloyd
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Mike (Dr Crovatt) LOL You beat me to it. I was just posting your excellent write up. Thank you very much.
Cheers,
Lloyd
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S/H Mtg By DrCrovatt
Sunday, 29 Oct 2000 at 8:03 PM EST
Just got back from a great trip to Charleston.
The camaraderie was great. I thoroughly enjoyed meeting everyone.
I felt the most important news was the Sysco contract. Sysco is now our distributor. Sysco is by far the largest distributor in the world. Sysco did not have a top of the line pork product for restaurants. The object is to establish a name for TendurPrime to pork like Black Angus is to beef. Sysco will sell this as Sysco Supreme and it will also have our TendurPrime label on it. Sysco actually needs our product. Something that makes our product very unique is its consistency. Through 20 years of selective breeding we have established a pork line that can't be matched unless they go through us to buy our genetics (semen or embryo's). Our TendurPrime has consistency in the 95% range. The average is 75%. This means when you purchase the typical pork dinner at a restaurant, you run about a 1 in 4 chance of the quality being poor even though the restaurant orders the same brand each time. With our higher consistency the restaurant can be sure of more satisfied customers. We build brand recognition as the restaurant prints TendurPrime on their menu beside the entrée like Black Angus is currently printed by the high-end beef selection on the menu. As they are unsure of demand at this time we start in one region which insures we can fill the orders. As this gets rolling we have a huge sales force (1000s of Sysco employees) selling to hundreds of thousands of restaurants.
We have alliance herds that produce nothing but hogs for TendurPrime. We are obligated to buy all their hogs. We also have other farmers who are allied with us but are not alliance herds. They use our genetics and they give us right to first refusal on hogs they have raised with our protocol. What this enables us to do is have a base of meat ready to meet demand through our alliance herds and when we can not meet demand, we have a way to also purchase meat through herds we are allied with. This allows us to meet demand without carrying excess supply. When we purchase a hog from a farmer we are allied with he gets more for it than he would by just selling to market. The ones we don't need he just sells to market. Often a farmer will be allied with us for a period of time until his current contracts expire and then will become a full-fledged alliance herd farmer. This niche market has tremendous potential to say the least.
The Gourley scope is truly impressive. Specific scope designs are used for each type animal. We rent the scope, we do not sell it. Fresh semen is only good for a few days. Frozen semen can be used indefinitely. With conventional artificial insemination, frozen semen does not work well because frozen semen has reduced motility compared to fresh and pregnancy rates are lower. With the use of the Gourley scope, frozen semen will give the same pregnancy rates as fresh. The reason it can achieve this is because of how precisely you can deliver the semen to where it needs to be.
Artificial insemination of other animals should be big. Apparently there is a big demand on deer ranges. These are areas where hunters pay to hunt deer. They want to breed the deer for large antlers. Some deer are worth 10s of thousands of dollars. Sheep is a big field for use. Also going to look into using it for highbred dogs. It is a lot easier to artificially inseminate dogs that live great distances apart than shipping the dog and hoping for a successful mating. Of course this has potential for certain types of horses. Horses often injure each other mating. A great possible PR could come from using this on animals near extinction. A fellow stockholder has connections with someone from National Geographic and he will try to check into artificially inseminating Pandas in China. What a great PR that would be if it ever materializes.
International markets. Doug is going to Europe November 7. He has made many trips. Trying to set up an office in Munich. Contacts in Europe are excellent. Of particular interest is one of the very largest herds in the world, which is based out of Spain. That contract alone would take more than we can currently deliver in artificial inseminations from our boar stud facility. We would build more BSF's and since we have built one, we have learned how to do it and we can build more quickly. Dr Carlson who was at the meeting said our facility was by far the best in the world. Dr. Carlson is the second most famous swine veterinarian in the world.
There were several people from the Philippines in attendance and speaking. Dr. Gourley's trip was very successful in the Philippines. Obviously they came a long way to meet further. They must be serious. Pork is the second most consumed food in the Pacific Rim only surpassed by rice. The contacts in the Philippines have the power to get us into that area of the world.
I have seen companies run to very high levels on less than what we have here. EDIG is an example. They ran to $24 from $1.50 in about 2 weeks when it appeared they had become involved with a major company. They had very little revenue. We are now involved with Sysco. We have more revenue than EDIG did at that time so given the right series of events we could have quite a run. Doug did not mention what was going on with our large white sows. The large whites should be for supermarket type contracts. There were rumors of a large contract for this line through a large distributor. Most feel the contract has not closed as we are waiting for an all natural status for a USDA label or that Doug is waiting until we are off the pinks to release info. The SEC now considers us a fully reporting company. This does not mean we are off the pinks yet but does mean that institutions now can buy in. Hopefully they will do so. My guess is that we will be off the pinks within a month.
Everything I stated is my interpretation of things I heard at the meeting and during the weekend in Charleston. I may have misunderstood certain things but tried to summarize as accurately as possible.
Best regards
Mike
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Re: SH meeting..FWIW By: eaglefeather
Sunday, 29 Oct 2000 at 4:19 PM EST
High points (for me) include;
1.) the very strong probability that Doc Carlson (renowned veterinarian) will be joining this company full time in the near future.....and I might even speculate that he would be an excellent addition to our Board of Directors.
2.) an interesting discussion I had with Mark Anderson about the role that Struthers might have an opportunity to play in the Asian Pork market.....which is about 10 times larger than anything here in North America....and the response to Struthers that he witnessed at the recent pork exposition over there. Mr.ANderson brought along to the meeting his associate in the Philipines...Pat Chua and Pat's "uncle" Jack Chua who lives on mainland China and has the financial wherewithal and necessary relationships throughout Asia to make it all happen.
3.) the rumblings about a large company in Spain that literally dominates the artificial insemination market in Europe......hmmmmmm and we're about to open an office in Munich they say.....and Doug's going over there next week. Enough said.
4.) ...and finally...we're about to enter the next phase of this little company's life cycle....the one where all the hype and promises in the world ain't gonna change the numbers that we, as a fully reporting company, must present to the world every quarter. I would expect that by April 15th of the 2001 we will begin to see signs that exponential revenue growth is not only going to occur....but is in fact occurring......slowly at first but then ramping up dramatically over the balance of 2001 and on into the next 2-3 years. If you must take some cash off the table to sustain yourself for a while...by all means do so. If you think there's another investment out there that over the next 2-3 years will show more promise and more return on your investment than Struthers..think again. Struthers is a long term, get wealthy deal....over an extended period of time. If you have the time and the means...stay long. If you are inclined to play the spikes...good luck.
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Latest from Charleston...
By: STRUEEEE
Sunday, 29 Oct 2000 at 2:53 PM EST
Latest from Charleston... just got off phone with KevNsiu with Alanr beside him and the two sounded very upbeat with the weekend events.
They had spent considerable amount of time speaking with many key people, Lou S. of Iowa hams who was quite enthusiastic with the growth of Struthers and restated that our quality of hogs stands a head above the rest, conversations with Brent Legred and Dr Carlson who reconfirmed the international talks could be huge, beyond even their wildest dreams.
Doug leaving for Germany next week, and having thoughts of listing the company in the European Stock Market Board.
Yes, they were disappointed in not getting the news released of the huge retail contract, or specfics of herd size, hard numbers of contracts that we had expected, but nonetheless left feeling good about the growth of the company and where it is heading.
For anyone who had second thoughts about the company and management,this meeting would have settled and answered any skeptics concerns that yes, this is a real company, it will succeed.
On a personal note, Kev mentioned that coming to the meeting probably would have saved a investor(me) a million $'s who has plans on cashing out at the dollar level rather than truely beliving that this company will hit the big dollar range in time.
Even Evil Gary who had gotten into it with them before the meeting, came back and later apologized for past things said. As for myself, I think I will sit on this one for a while.
Best of Luck to all of us.
Strueeee
Cheers
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Inexperienced posters perspective -
By: PANDM
Sunday, 29 Oct 2000 at 2:11 PM EST
Just back fom Charlston. I have not posted much, but have been long since feb. 1999. I can't tell you how exciting it was to hear all the wonderfull things discussed at the s/h meeting. I wanted to post from the inexperienced posters perspective. I own only 70k shares, and will wait to buy more.
Dr B started the meeting off with the new, that we were opening an office in the Phillipines, and munich germany. Also, that getting on the german board is a possibility.
He then said we had signed a contract with SYSCO systems, no dollar amount mentioned, but will be sold on a request basis, in a limitied area at first, than after experience, with orders and system, the entire system of SYSCO to the 350,000 restaurants they deal with.
We have a contract with Johnson Whales University, and it's 5 campuses of culinary arts. They will pack 4 loins instead of 2 in each box to the tune of 200 per week.
They have a contract with earthware stores, a growing chain of natural food products, and have a contract with Super Value Stores (1,000 stores, 4 distibution centers) we will do business with the largest distribution center, and after kinks out, will do business with all the rest, to a tune of 300-400 cases per store.
They have a contract with rich plan foods(largest home sales).
Daymon broker worldwide distr. for the seman packer.
Dr. Carlson said Struthers is going to revelutionize the industry, and he was so excited, he had to keep himself in check. He may also be joining team in the future.
They are going into China, Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia.
They are also attending a show in Thailand in march.
People tried to get numbers from the board, but doc. would not give them sighting competition and must wait for numbers to come in, to evaluate.
Overall the future is bright, but will take time.
To all those stru brothers and sisters i met, thanks for being so patient, and sharing. I look forward to the next time we meet, STAY LONG AND PROSPER. GO STRU.
Cheers
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STRU's FUTURE...Part 2 By: SHANK
Sunday, 29 Oct 2000 at 12:25 PM EST
...About STRU's FUTURE
MORE things taken from previous posts here on RB,(Some from Dougs e-mails), that IMO, is a big part of STRU's FUTURE >>>
> "Just recently, we delivered the first piglets ever conceived by non-surgical embryo transplantation, by using the patented Gourley Scope.[u[ This birth was the "shot" that was heard around the world"
> "Although, at this time I can't tell you as of yet what has transpired, I can tell you that you should be very proud of what you did, it was something that virtually is unheard of in the public arena. Your efforts are about to change the Company and the industry forever"
> BSF-"Once the bio-security checks have been made of the unit, 200 boars will enter the facility within the next week to 10 days. Along with other superior boars we have located overseas that contain genetic traits that we feel are necessary to meet the future packer and consumer needs. The interesting aspect of bringing in these additional boars is that we do not need to buy them…we place them in our stud and a portion of the semen profit goes back to the company who sent them to us. Not only do we increase the number of animals in our stud boar operation (to utilize its full capacity), we continue to improve upon the elite genetics available for our clients who would otherwise not have access to the genetic package we have available. As the porcine breeding season is now getting underway I fully expect that the LSG subsidiary will be very busy filling the orders which have increased since the boar stud opening."
> "Dr. Gourley and his team have been extremely busy with semen/embryo collection, inseminations and non-surgical embryo transfers in swine, deer and sheep. Over the past few weeks Dr. Gourley has performed inseminations and non-surgical embryo transfers in hundreds of animals for our new clients."
> "The recent worldwide media attention has generated a steady stream of requests for our products and services, which has kept us very busy. It is my opinion that we're going to have an excellent fall breeding season."
> "We also sell embryos and semen for Sheep and Deer...Deer semen is priced at $300 to $12,000 a dose depending on quality of animal. Currently we receive $1000 per AI of Deer, and $150 per sheep and revenues from these procedures are staggering"
> "Struthers will still play a major role in supplying minimal disease-free hogs to the research area and our accompanying technology as our animals are excellent models for vaccine and antibiotic research."
> "After speaking with researchers I am delighted that the focus will turn to that of using our hogs to the above purpose and I'm very pleased that we have the cleanest hogs in North America."
> "Its interesting to note that typically low disease hogs are sold for approximately $3000 per animal. This is a great revenue source for Struthers and once our research facilities complete the work on the Gourley Scope we will focus on the delivery of low incidence of disease embryos and swine to the appropriate research companies."
> "You will notice as the pieces of the puzzles come together that not only will Struthers have a major impact in the raising of natural swine and other animals for the retail chains we'll be focusing on more high ticket items such as filling of requests for low disease animals for research and the training of veterinarians to use our Gourley Scope."
> "You may also be interested to know that one time Dr. Ian Wilmut had visited Struthers to discuss the use of our
technology in their research and that now I feel it is a great time to give Dr. Wilmut a call to discuss his future focus and offer our nonsurgical embryo transfer techniques and embryo washing procedures."
> "It is also interesting to note that institutions here in the U.S. have contacted us recently about our technology and are shiftingtheir focus away from cloning to the more lucrative area of vaccine and antibiotic resistance research."
> "We now have grown ..since our filling to be able to support the numerous requests for the use of our unique technology in the reproductive process in other animal species...I will update the investor base as to these developments on an ongoing basis. Some of what we are doing with other companies must remain quiet until all systems are in place to handle the influx of orders ...to disclose relationships which are developing would not be in the best interest of the Company at this time. To say we are holding back information would not be a true statement at this time , however, knowing that at this time we are being watched by our peers we are being careful that when we come out of the "box" we come out with all our "pigs" in a row. And to deliver on time our services , products, in a fashion that if our peers want to catch up we are years ahead..."
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By: SHAN
Sunday, 29 Oct 2000 at 12:24 PM EST
STRU's FUTURE...Part 1 >>>
...ABOUT STRU's FUTURE...
Here are some things taken from previous posts here on RB,(Some from Dougs e-mails), that IMO, is a big part of STRU's FUTURE >>>
> "for sheep we are charging $150 per et or inseminations with a minimum of $2000 per day...we also have an order for 35,000 sheep AI and ET in Australia ...not to mention other countries we are now involved with."
> "for deer we are charging $1000 per insemination and have done hundreds in the last few weeks"
> "we have looked at the horse racing industry and have folks interested in our technology...great area...big $$$"
> "What we have achieved nationally is ready internationally!"
> "interest in our technology within Europe has grown tremendously since the release of the article on the Gourley Scope by Pig International Magazine"
> "Although, we are currently shipping product in large quantities, an e-commerc"
> "After Gourley demonstrated AI with the Gourley Scope, word flew through the Pacific Rim and many more large corporations flew in representatives from Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, China, Australia."
> "STRU has been invited to go to China to do AI on sheep and pigs. Sheep is the second largest consumed meat in China (after pork)."
> "After the SH meeting we are off to Ireland , France Spain, Germany..plus others
..."
> "Some of this new technology(Gourley Scope) is being tested in the turkey area right now WITH OUTSTANDING RESULTS! And so we're gonna take a chunk of that market!"
> "Talking to company in Spain that does over 3 MM inseminations per year (half the size of the US market"
> "Numerous visits to potential clients in the UK and Europe this fall"
> "The mentioned how successful Dr. Gourley's trip in the Philippines was going. There is great demand for the TendurPrime and the semen. We have access to 100,000 sows. Packers in the entire Pacific Rim are showing a great deal of interest. They have had problems with diseases and are anxious to obtain our disease free lines. Deals selling our meat are incredible. They are exceeding expectations. The semen sales are great."
>" 6 herds totaling approx 30,000 sows will begin using the GS system immediately under a rental agreement and a $10 per sow royalty, plus the selling of the necessary supplies i.e.. catheters needed for the procedure. Dr. Carlson will monitor these accounts and collect the data which will find its way into a reseach paper for presentation and publication."
> "Data from frozen semen without extender is producing same results as fresh semen with extender...another first in the world for STRU using the GS."
> "Attendance at the Hanover, Germany AI conference Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2000."
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It would appear that he did not give his briefing. eom
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Triad, EMG, and Creekstone Farms -
By: greasedpig
Sunday, 29 Oct 2000 at 12:19 AM EDT
Triad, EMG, and Creekstone Farms are all intra-related...EMG stands for Enterprise Marketing Group. They have contracts with Major Grocery Chains.
It has been rumored that there is a deal pending with this group and struthers and that it is in the $300 to $400 Million range per year. It has also been speculated that we are very close to making this deal final..Some speculated that it would be done by the shareholders meeting and that the EMG people would be at the meeting to make the announcements. This speculation comes from several sources...to include contacts with EMG personnel.
It was recently speculated that there were last minute delays due to contract fine tuning...also, It is believed that we could be waiting for some seal for our product...all natural, heart seal, something.
In todays meeting, a question was asked about the relationship and a contract...Dr. Beatty said he couldn't comment at this time.
My opinion...we are close...and that this is the big contract that all have been waiting on...
Try...www.creekstonefarms.com and www.TheEMG.com
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Sysco Announcement
By: rashomonlynch
Saturday, 28 Oct 2000 at 11:01 PM EDT
This Sysco thing is kinda hard to understand at first. It is HUGE news, bigger than the STRU acquisition of LSG during November, 1999. (not my quote; not Doug, not Rhett, someone better).
Bigger news than DeKalb buying all the pigs from the Univ. of NE.
The thing to understand is Sysco is not a one specific "contract"......Sysco is a 16 billion company, serves 352,000 restaurants, and has 112,000 salesman. So, what does that mean?
Took some time for me to understand...So, you could essentially have 352,000 "mini" contracts if each restaurant placed a order for TenduPrime.
Once you have your vendor ID...the 352,000 restaurants can buy from you (indirectly)..order meat first....then produce the pigs....that's how the red revenue (Durocs) is going to come.
I am sure we will here more on this later. Sysco only takes the best of the best.
Maybe a shareholder familiar with the Sysco procedures could add more comments.
Details on whites...not discussed much, probably a confidential issue right now....but good things to come.
I thought I knew this industry...really, most shareholders have no idea of what you own. High quality pork, or pigmeat as they say in Europe, kinda like owning gold regarding supply and demand concerns.
10-4 Greg
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TO ALL..DAMN GOOD NEWS TODAY! GROWTH!
By: SHANK
Saturday, 28 Oct 2000 at 9:19 PM EDT
TO ALL..DAMN GOOD NEWS TODAY! GROWTH! If you have been on this board for a while, you know Doug has a hell of a lot more up his sleeve then this....
REMEMBER THIS..."After the SH meeting we are off to Ireland , France Spain, Germany..plus others ..."
AND THIS..."Some of this new technology(Gourley Scope) is being tested in the turkey area right now WITH OUTSTANDING RESULTS! And so we're gonna take a chunk of that market!"
AND THIS...Talking to company in Spain that does over 3 MM inseminations per year (half the size of the US market
AND THIS...Numerous visits to potential clients in the UK and Europe this fall
AND THIS...he mentioned how successful Dr. Gourley's trip in the Philippines was going. There is great demand for the TendurPrime and the semen. We have access to 100,000 sows. Packers in the entire Pacific Rim are showing a great deal of interest. They have had problems with diseases and are anxious to obtain our disease free lines. Deals selling our
meat are incredible. They are exceeding expectations. The semen sales are great.
AND THIS...6 herds totaling approx 30,000 sows will begin using the GS system immediately under a rental agreement and a $10 per sow royalty, plus the selling of the necessary supplies i.e.. catheters needed for the procedure.
Dr. Carlson will monitor these accounts and collect the data which will find its way into a reseach paper for presentation and publication.
AND THIS...Data from frozen semen without extender is producing same results as fresh semen with extender...another first in the world for STRU using the GS.
AND THIS...Attendance at the Hanover, Germany AI conference Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2000.
PIGS, SHEEP, TURKEY, DEER, ECT...ECT...ECT...
There is so much more info here, it's just I don't have time to go back and find it.
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What I like is the fact they are opening up an office in
Munich, Germany.
Have been to Germany a few times and they are really big on pork.
Funny thing though, you small pig crap all over the place but NEVER see a pig.
They take their hog farming VERY serious.
Second thing I like is the fact that we now have a deal with SYSCO Foods and Daymon. Could not have picked two better companies to strike up a deal with.
While all of this is great, it isn't going to make the share price explode.
I believe with-in the next 6 months we will see a contract with huge dollar amounts that WILL make the share price expode beyond what we think is possible today.
This is Just My Humble Opinion. (felt like spelling it out)
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S/H Mtg Brief update:
By: rashomonlynch
Saturday, 28 Oct 2000 at 5:41 PM EDT
No blockbuster news announced, however, many things discussed which are important to the overall business plan. Probably most importantly, STRU has procured a "vendor ID" number from SYSCO.
Working with Daymon Associates pigs produced as orders dictate.
This pertains to the reds. November 22 is first shipment. Evidently, procuring the "vendor ID" number is extremely difficult.
Mgt. mentioned intent to open an office in Asia and Munich within six months.
Al Carlson spoke. Mentioned to me the BSF is the only one he knows of that has an embryo collection room/operating room.
Super Value (based in Wisconsin??)..trying to get meat to them...however, right now just auxiliary type products.
The meeting was much more formal than the dinners such as Kt., CA, IN....probably because the even was video taped as is considered permanant record of the SHM. Mgt. played their cards close to their vests.
3 individuals from the Philipines came. Are invovled in getting the STRU products over there.
Dick Lane there, Jack Price there, Glen Struthers there....many more....
Company is now fully reporting per Ken Remley....that means all financials must be disclosed from now on out. We can get back to the otcbb via a verbal phone call or the submission of the no comment letter. Hopefully real soon.
I think mgts. was hesitant to say too many things in depth that may be sensitive as of today. Dinner tonight...maybe some more odds and ends later.
10-4 Greg
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STRU Fully Reporting -
By: fanofThePigOne
Saturday, 28 Oct 2000 at 4:15 PM EDT
I spoke briefly with Ken Remley after the meeting. He said because we answered the SEC comments within 60 days we are considered fully reporting. It is possible that there will be more comments to our response.
A representative from the auditing company said in the second half of the meeting that the SEC was reviewing the audited financial info on Elite Visions.
The time frame to getting 'cleared' is getting shorter and shorter. We are 'close'.
It is my understanding from what else Ken Remley told me that since we are now considered 'fully reporting', we can disseminate information without affecting the status of the current form 10 or creating additional comments to said form 10. The SEC would require the quarterly reports to reflect the new info. This is my understanding from Ken Remley.
foTPO
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Possible delays of EMG contract -
By: fanofThePigOne
Saturday, 28 Oct 2000 at 3:42 PM EDT
Possible delays of EMG contract, USDA label and questions of wording on Struther's agreement with Triad. eom.
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No pork products at Super Value stores -
By: fanofThePigOne
Saturday, 28 Oct 2000 at 3:34 PM EDT
No pork products at Super Value stores. 300-400 cases of our BBQ sauce, breading and flour to each store. Super Value has 4,000 total stores - 5 divisions. We will supply largest division which has 1,000 stores.
foTPO
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Triad, also known as EMG -
By: 1914
Saturday, 28 Oct 2000 at 3:33 PM EDT
Triad, also known as EMG, is a marketing company that markets beef products. They do this under the name Creekstone Farms label.
Triad owns Creekstone Farms ~~~ two companies one owner.
Rumor is they will be selling Struthers pork. Struthers and Triad are suppose to set up a private company. The profits would be split with Triad getting 65% profit on all the meat they sell.
I called Creekstone farms and they did verify they are adding All Natural Pork to their product line. We are hearing the contract would be over 300 million a year.
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Status of new BSF -
By: fanofThePigOne
Saturday, 28 Oct 2000 at 2:51 PM EDT
More now:
The new BSF is not full O' boars yet. We are still completing the installation of the video system. This should take approx 2 more weeks. After that is the bio-secure procedure which will take approximately another 2 weeks.
The boars are currently in quarantine and so can be moved into the BSF as soon as it is ready. The initial population will be 200 boars. It will eventually hold 402 boars.
I'm about to get booted again, so more later...
foTPO :o)
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Re SEC / fully reporting - by greasedpib from SH mting:
By: required
Saturday, 28 Oct 2000 at 2:43 PM EDT
Update:
It was announced that we are fully reporting .. BUT ... we are not off the pimks yet ..Fully reporting by default, in that it has bee n69 days since our August 28th filing date. When off the pinks .. 1 to 3 weeks ..still in the hands of the sEC ...
Procedures: SEC comes back and says they are satisfied. Struthers then goes to NASD and asks for reinstatement. NASD verifies SEC satisfaction. Then, NASD fills out the form 211..which takes two days ...
Can't .. or don't want to give out revenue numbers for the contracts .. if they do ...it would require them to report on costs and profit ..don't want to tip the competitiion to our ' mutiple streams'..(and I agree with SI to take this tack at this time in their competitive strategy)...
Asked about TRIAD during the Q. & A. .. Doug said ..."no comment at this time:.
All for now .....
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