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Hi bbotcs, it's sad given how much technology we have, but I'd prefer a paper ballot too .... like the one I mailed in last year.
Hi Al,
1. No one is claiming massive fraud in the story you posted.
2. The voting machines mentioned in the story you posted were very old and not used by hardly anyone else.
3. the recounts in Georgia and Arizona, confirmed Biden got more votes than Trump.
4. If there had been reasonable evidence that there was reason to believe the vote counts were being manipulated, the courts would have heard the cases. But since there wasnt any, they cases were thrown out.
5. and as always, there's this: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/sidney-powell-dominion-defamation-lawsuit-voter-fraud/
Hi Al, thanks for posting that. It gave me something to look into over lunch. The story is real. And arithmetically - really weird.
I mean a town of 10,000 and the original vote tally and the recount seem to differ by like 1000 votes. It would have been nice to see the "original" and "recount" results so I could do some math myself. Clearly there was lots of human intervention. I would have like to have seen the recount results for president and congress too. Why werent those recounts part of the story ?
Apparently the voting machines were not Dominion and were very old. Maybe as part of Biden's "Infrastructure" spending wishes, we give all jurisdictions reliable voting machines that are certified by a bipartisan organization BEFORE they are put into use ?
Dear WesternJournal, lets work on your terminology.
Your use of the term RINO is describing Reagan Republicans, who in fact are the true Republicans. So are the pro-gun, pro-life, pro-school choice, pro-border wall conservatives. When you put these two groups together, you have a great political party. (Note: the only ideological difference between these 2 groups is pro-life. Also - what happened to small government and balanced budget ??)
Today's Republican Party is personified by Marjorie Taylor Greene, the QAnon Shaman, and others who believe in stuff that is totally false -
and has no constructive value. They are the RINOs. The Reagan era Republicans would never have let anyone like them near their tent, let alone in it.
"these dissenters possessed an intense dislike for President Trump’s language, brashness, hyperbole and salesmanship."
WesternJournal, you forgot dishonest, pathological liar, delusional, and in violation of his constitutional oath of office. Not to mention surrounding himself with people like Sydney Powell, Stephen Miller, and MyPillowGuy. Which is why Reagan Republicans didnt vote for him.
Hi Al, yeah I'm sure the Fed will be able to shore things up for a while. But ultimately, to create money, you need to put up collateral (i.e debt) and you need a buyer for that debt.
Meanwhile, taxpayers have to pay the interest on ALL the debt. At some point we wont be able to afford both the interest payments AND our DoD budget.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/national-debt-ready-eclipse-us-economy/story?id=72793541
hey Al, my prediction for some time is the US will collapse economically by the mid-2030s. This is when the SS Trust Fund, which covers a third of the amount in SS checks runs out. The rest comes from current employees which we're making fewer and fewer of as the number of SS eligible people grows. So tens of millions of retirees will become destitute with no way to feed, clothe or house them.
The collapse might happen sooner than that but definitely by the mid-2030s.
I also expect the US to break apart by then too.
"... he or she can be placed under arrest by the Marshal’s office, White House Police, Secret Service or FBI."
Of which there are several hundred of within a mile of the White House.
Of course the Secret Service is IN the White House already - with quite an arsenal. No need for the military to get involved.
Yes, the old "Fox News lies more than MSNBC, so by comparison, MSNBC is telling the truth" argument.
It must be a Bachelor of Arts education thing.
It's important to note that Rachel Maddow is the star of "The Rachel Maddow Show". She's a smart woman - she doesnt even have to pretend its a factual news program - it's just a show.
I'm still letting the fact that Rachel Maddow might have said something that might be true sink in.
hi bbotcs, I actually asked a TDS wife of a friend of mine how many Guatemalan kids she's letting stay at their home. she wasn't amused.
But I made my point.
Let me read the wall article.The truth is that CBP has a multi-year plan for walls, other barriers, and electronic detection that was pretty much implemented under Obama, then Trump, and now I'm sure Biden.
And again, other than Newsweek, this isnt covered by the MSM or friends of the MSM. Its like we're living in 2 separate countries based on what stories get reported to whom.
Hi bbotcs, we're gonna have to disagree on this. And since Biden got 8M more votes nationally .... the message was clear.
Al, you, and myself have mentioned TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome) here many times over the past 4 years. Millions of TDS'ers - especially suburban women - came out and voted their TDS. Add to that the Dems canvased "people of color" neighborhoods and got out their vote too.
That was enough to determine the outcome.
Hi Al, of course there would be exceptions/waivers. Like if your job required you to be armed.
I've tried to explain to my very non-racist white friends that when CNN and so on run story after story about examples of racism - and calling in "systemic racism", they are accusing all white people -- INCLUDING MY NON-RACIST FRIENDS - of being racist.
They dont get it.
Hi Al, yeah I dont know why having an ID to vote is a progressive battle line. But at least in Maryland, you already have been ID'ed in advance. And as far as absentee ballots go, if there's any question about them, they have your signature.
In a perfectly governed USA, the two parties would agree to requiring voter id in exchange for increasing the age of maturity for gun ownership to 27.
Hi Al, here's how Maryland dealt with absentee ballots:
1. They know who all the registered voters are, as does Georgia. So there's really no need to require the individual to provide any identification.
2. They mailed all registered voters a card that allowed them to request an absentee ballot. The card had a barcode on it.
3. They mailed us an absentee ballot also with a barcode on it. We had to sign a piece of paper but not the ballot.
4. Drop off boxes were placed in front of early voting locations. Mine was about 2 miles away from where I lived. It had to be dropped off by election day. You can mail it in, but personally I think you'd have to be nutz to do that - but people do.
5. There is no political appointee commission (the most worrisome part of the act) with the authority to throw out ballots as they see fit.
I also think that if Pennsylvania and other states simply mass mailed ballots to registered voters without them explicitly requesting one, that should not be allowed.
hi all, let me respond to that in two words: Sydney Powell.
There was no meaningful evidence presented that would have changed the outcome of the election.
Did Trump lose the election ? Only if elections are decided by who got the most votes.
hi Arizona1, yes that a good idea too.
hi bbotcs, these restrictions are seemingly minor, but they are restrictions nonetheless.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/georgia-passes-vast-restrictive-voting-law-limiting-early-voting-ballot-n1262101
So my point is the red state America has no problem imposing restrictions of the constitutional right of voting but goes crazy at the suggestion of any restrictions relating to gun ownership.
personally, I'd like to see the age of maturity for gun ownership raised to 27, since the age of the most of the people doing all the senseless shooting is less than that. and guns should be required to have electronic safety locks like, you know OUR CARS AND PHONES, but that'll never happen, despite the fact that neither of these regulations would restrict the gun rights of adults.
hey All, have ya noticed how much the right wing wants mess with the Right to Vote, but is totally against anyone messing with the Right to Bear Arms - even in the smallest way.
Makes ya think.
I hope the MSM isn't too disappointed that the person who attached the Capitol yesterday wasn't a QANON white supremicist.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-capitol-suspect-identified-noah-102800785.html
Well since he knew he was choking Floyd, there's pretty much a 100% chance that he killed him. I'll let the jury decide if it was 2nd or 3rd degree.
Hi bbotcs, its definitely a media fueled bandwagon movement.
That's not to say Derek Chauvin isnt guilty of murder. But if we want criminal acts like his to stop, we need to address the root cause. Unfortunately, even suggesting the root cause brands one as a racist.
Hey Al, I think the BLM movement has some work to do.
https://www.yahoo.com/gma/police-release-video-showing-man-120955886.html
Add this to the DC carjacking/killing, Virginia Beach and Miami Beach melees, and all the other violent attacks against asians .... and you start to get a pattern, lol.
On the plus side, we now have a definition of white supremacy as indicated by this article - namely hard work, polite behavior, and the pursuit of academic excellence.
https://news.yahoo.com/san-francisco-school-board-member-205043893.html
lol hey Al - but in fact it WAS made up. Also - someone messed with the headline since Arabic is a language, not an ethnic designation. And CNN would never have used the word Arab. They would have used Arabian - but only if the person was from the Arabian peninsula.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/cnn-boulder-shooting-morally-white/
https://babylonbee.com/news/media-now-claims-shooter-was-factually-arabic-but-morally-white
But I liked the "Switch to Racism !!" meme. So CNN.
Not as Orwellian as insisting the election was stolen, but very Orwellian none-the-less.
Hi bbotcs, or ....... look for a property to buy and rent it to people who dont want to pay federal income tax. Cha-ching !
Hi bbotcs, just remember - criticizing this violent, out of control behavior will get you accused of being a racist. Clearly our white supremacist patriarchy is to blame for all this.
wow I had not heard of that being discussed. Yeah I think we'll all move there if that happens. DC is close enough to me that I wouldnt even need a moving van.
Maybe DC could annex Silver Spring and Bethesda ?
Hey Al, I guess if youre not planning on going anywhere, you'll be ok. But as someone who wants to take a vacation at some point - I want some resistance and even immunity.
I'm not back, I'm just saying hello.
There's too much craziness in both political parties for me.
Hey Al, looks like I havent missed much, lol. Have you changed your mind about getting vaccinated ? I'm scheduled for my 2nd shot next Saturday. 2 weeks after that I'LL BE FREE - except ....
still need to wear masks everywhere
still need to social distance myself from others (6 ft or is 3 ft ok now ?)
still not supposed to travel
And I'm still waiting for my family members to admit most of the vaccination rollout success story was put in place by Operation Warp Speed.
What we need desperately is a national news source that gives facts w/o right or left leaning commentary only. I find much better info on the internet than TV.
Hi Al, so so true.
I watch The News on CNBC at 7pm. Of course there's some "NBC" slant to it, but its a real news show that covers many stories in its hour broadcast - as opposed to gossiping endlessly on just one or 2 stories of its choosing.
It also tosses in some good news stories which you rarely see on cable news these days.
Have you been vaccinated yet ? The media calls Operation Warp Speed a "disaster" yet here we are in at the end of January, 1.2M doses of vaccine are being distributed every day, enough vaccine has been distributed to give our highest risk of dying citizens their 1st dose, and 40% of them have already gotten their 1st shot. By the end of February that number will be 90%.
Not bad for a "disaster", huh ?
Hey Al,
"Millions of those voters are loyal to Trump as an individual, ..."
This is the disease that need to be eradicated from our country.
People who want news arent interested in reality. They're interested in stories that continue to affirm their mistaken views. So when Fox News started reporting something closer to reality, they lost some viewers. Not a good sign.
Hi Ayock,
assume violent control of the seat of government tho short sighted and brain numbingly stupid
They had no plan to assume control of the legislative branch. Cuz, clearly, other than a handful of them, they had no plan.
Now ..... setting up "autonomous zones" ..... and using them as a base to attack police stations and Federal courthouses. Now that's a coup.
Hi Arizona1, I agree. This irony I'm pointing out is for months and months, the progressive rationalization has been that rioting and looting is ok cuz its a natural part of protesting.
I disagree with that. And yet, people like Don Lemon, are still defending that view. They should be ashamed of themselves.
I also find it interesting that SO MANY media outlets intentionally edited out the word "peacefully" when quoting him. I could only find the word in the NYT full transcript of his Jan 6th speech. What's up with that ?
But like I said, I agree with his guilt. Even if, like some have pointed out, the stormers were prepared in advance of his speech, its because he's been inspiring them to do what they did for months.
Hi Ayock, I think we're gonna find out the people who stormed the Capitol had some "inside" help.
I'm kinda mystified what the intent of the stormers was. The process was procedural and killing a few "traitors" wouldn't have changed the outcome, so it wasn't an attempted coup.
An angry mob is a stupid mob.
But it looks like Trump will get impeached for his role in it.
Hi Ayock, lots of irony to go around although the one you posted is very ironic indeed. And of course storming the US Capitol takes the civil unrest which has been brewing for some time to a new level.
Here's some more irony for you:
Donald Trump: “I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.”
Chris Cuomo: “Please, show me where it says protests have to be polite and peaceful.”
Charlie Baker, Governor of Massachusetts after downtown Boston was horribly looted: “The vast majority, and I mean the vast majority of the people who were part of these protests are there to make a point and to make it peacefully. That is so obvious I’m amazed that anyone could say anything other than that."
Rep. Alexandra Cortez: “The thing that critics of activists don’t get is that they tried playing the ‘polite language’ policy game and all it did was make them easier to ignore. It wasn’t until they made folks uncomfortable that there was traction to do ANYTHING … The whole point of protesting is to make ppl uncomfortable … To folks who complain protest demands make others uncomfortable … that’s the point.”
Kamala Harris: “Everyone beware. They're not gonna stop before election day in November, and they're not gonna stop after election day ... They’re not gonna let up, and they should not.”
Muriel Bowser, Mayor of DC, thanked police for their response to the Jan. 6 attack. “They were called a lot of names in 2020. But today, our city rightfully calls them heroes,”
I should also mention that those definitions, even though I'm not sure they're correct, definitely apply to the insurrection in Portland and Seattle.
Here's a post of mine from Sept 2019 - predicting anti government violence in the pacific northwest.
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=150938024
This has been building up for a while. Trump just lit the alt-Right's match.
Hey Al
Until the concerns of the allegations of voter fraud are addressed fully ....
All the ones I've heard of have be debunked and proven false ... repeatedly.
Which means any remaining, wont change the outcome - which our courts have ruled ..... again repeatly.
Don't you wish we could go back to a simpler time, like 2018, when it was considered mostly ok to storm -- not one, but TWO sacred DC buildings ?
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/protests-build-capitol-hill-ahead-brett-kavanaugh-vote-n917351
Hey Al, so the next question is - do the Proud Boys supporting people you know understand that the inauguration ceremony next Wednesday is just that -- a ceremony ?
Biden becomes president on the 20th whether he's sworn in by the Chief Justice or not. I mean think about it - if it were more than a ceremony, the Chief Justice would have the power to prevent Biden from becoming President - which he doesn't.
If you could pass that message along I'd greatly appreciate it. I'd hate to see a lot of people killed for nothing.