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that's not my understanding of the sequence of events...
from what I understood, Bush was going to lower restrictions on mercury.... and of course now that the pressure is on, he changed his tune.
I don't have time to research the details for now... will try to get back to that later
LOL good one :)
I'm not a "handy" type person and I know many who also are not... even in school I did much better on written tests than in labs (hands on stuff).
what is the most outlandish thing that you have done, in terms of interaction with the physical world, that you think most people would not know about?
I can get inside a computer and change a hard drive or add memory... I guess most people don't know how to do that. And yes I'm well aware of the hazardous materials in computers and monitors, but I didn't know that back when I first started working on them.
definitely fiction :)
I've never used cement or done pottery or anything like that... I'm sure alot of people haven't
who gives a crap what the politics were prior to the current admin... the fact remains that Bush's record on mercury emmissions is less than stellar
BMW to roll out hydrogen-powered 7 Series
Tue Sep 12, 6:33 AM ET
MUNICH (Reuters) - BMW will roll out the world's first hydrogen-burning car in serial production early next year, the German premium automaker said on Tuesday, eager to put its stamp on cars with green credentials.
The specially equipped 7-Series executive cars emit only water vapor when running on hydrogen.
The car hits the market next April and will be shown at the Los Angeles car show in November, the company said. It had said in March the hydrogen cars would arrive within two years.
A spokesman said the car would be leased to selected customers rather than sold because of its high price. Leasing rates would be similar to those for a top-end BMW 760LI with a full-service package.
The BMW 7 Series Hydrogen 7 Saloon is powered by a 260 hp twelve-cylinder engine and accelerates from 0-100 km/h (62 mph) in 9.5 seconds. Top speed is limited electronically to 230 km/h.
BMW has said it intends to build a few hundred such cars at first. They will be able to switch between burning standard petrol and hydrogen so that drivers will not be left stranded while the infrastructure to deliver hydrogen is built up.
"The integration of hydrogen drive in an existing vehicle concept which has already proven its merits in the market paves the way for an alternative to conventional drive concepts fully accepted in the market and with all the assets the customer is looking for in practice," BMW said.
The space that two fuel tanks take up means only the 7-Series will offer the hydrogen package at first. BMW's long-term goal is to offer hydrogen motors in all its cars.
BMW unveiled the world's fastest hydrogen-powered car at the 2004 Paris auto show. Dubbed the H2R, it can exceed 300 kilometers (185 miles) per hour and reaches 100 km per hour from a standing start in around six seconds.
While BMW is developing fuel-cell driven cars as well, it says it is concentrating on the combustion engine because the sum total of its features and characteristics offers the largest number of advantages and benefits all in one.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060912/bs_nm/autos_bmw_hydrogen_dc
exactly... a healthy democracy requires dissent, free press and oversight of the government by the people.
LOL
Palast Charged with Journalism in the First Degree
September 11, 2006
by Greg Palast
It's true. It's weird. It's nuts. The Department of Homeland Security, after a five-year hunt for Osama, has finally brought charges against … Greg Palast. I kid you not. Send your cakes with files to the Air America wing at Guantanamo.
Though not just yet. Fatherland Security has informed me that television producer Matt Pascarella and I have been charged with unauthorized filming of a "critical national security structure" in Louisiana.
On August 22, for LinkTV and Democracy Now! we videotaped the thousands of Katrina evacuees still held behind a barbed wire in a trailer park encampment a hundred miles from New Orleans. It's been a year since the hurricane and 73,000 POW's (Prisoners of W) are still in this aluminum ghetto in the middle of nowhere. One resident, Pamela Lewis said, “It is a prison set-up" -- except there are no home furloughs for these inmates because they no longer have homes.
To give a sense of the full flavor and smell of the place, we wanted to show that this human parking lot, with kids and elderly, is nearly adjacent to the Exxon Oil refinery, the nation's second largest, a chemical-belching behemoth.
So we filmed it. Without Big Brother's authorization. Uh, oh. Apparently, the broadcast of these stinking smokestacks tipped off Osama that, if his assassins pose as poor Black folk, they can get a cramped Airstream right next to a "critical infrastructure" asset.
So now Matt and I have a "criminal complaint" lodged against us with the feds.
The positive side for me as a journalist is that I get to see our terror-busters in action. I should note that it took the Maxwell Smarts at Homeland Security a full two weeks to hunt us down.
Frankly, we were a bit scared that, given the charges, we wouldn't be allowed on a plane into New York last night. But what scared us more is that we were allowed on the plane.
Once I was traced, I had a bit of an other-worldly conversation with my would-be captors. Detective Frank Pananepinto of Homeland Security told us, "This is a 'Critical Infrastructure' … and they get nervous about unauthorized filming of their property.
Well, me too, Detective. In fact, I'm very nervous that this potential chemical blast-site can be mapped in extreme detail at this Google Map location
What also makes me nervous is that the Bush Terror Terriers have kindly indicated on the Internet that this unprotected critical infrastructure can be targeted -- I mean located -- at 30º 29' 11" N Latitude and 91º 11' 39" W Longitude.
After I assured Detective Pananepinto, "I can swear to you that I'm not part of Al Qaeda," he confirmed that, "Louisiana is still part of the United States," subject to the first amendment and he was therefore required to divulge my accuser.
Not surprisingly, it was Exxon Corporation, one of a handful of companies not in love with my investigations. [See "A Well-Designed Disaster: the Untold Story of the Exxon Valdez."]
So I rang America's top petroleum pusher-men and asked their media relations honcho in Houston, Marc Boudreaux, a simple question. "Do you want us to go to jail or not? Is it Exxon's position that reporters should go to jail?" Because, all my dumb-ass jokes aside, that is what's at stake. And Exxon knew we were journalists because we showed our press credential to the Exxon guards at the refinery entrance.
The Exxon man was coy: "Well, we'll see what we can find out…. Obviously it's important to national security that we have supplies from that refinery in the event of an emergency."
Really? According to the documents our team uncovered from the offices of Exxon's lawyer, Mr. James Baker, the oil industry is more than happy to see a limit on worldwide crude production. Indeed, the current squeeze has jacked the price of oil from $24 a barrel to $64 and refined products have jumped yet higher -- resulting in a record-busting profit for Exxon of nearly $1 billion per week.
So this silly "criminal complaint" has nothing to do with stopping Al Qaeda or keeping the oil flowing. It has everything to do with obstructing news reports in a way that no one would have dared attempt before the September 11 attack.
Dectective Pananepinto, in justifying our impending bust, said, "If you remember, a lot of people were killed on 9/11."
Yes, Detective, I remember that very well: my office was in the World Trade Center. Lucky for me, I was out of town that day. It was not a lucky day for 3,000 others.
Yes, I remember "a lot" of people were killed. So I have this suggestion, Detective -- and you can pass it on to Mr. Bush: Go and find the people who killed them.
It's been five years and the Bush regime has not done that. Instead, the War on Terror is reduced to taking off our shoes in airports, hoping we can bomb Muslims into loving America and chasing journalists around the bayou. Meanwhile, King Abdullah, the Gambino of oil, whose princelings funded the murderers, gets a free ride in the President's golf cart at the Crawford ranch.
I guess I shouldn't complain. After all, Matt and I look pretty good in orange.
*******
A personal request to readers. Many have written to ask what can be done to protect Matt and me from becoming unwilling guests of the State.
First, this ain't no foolin' around: Matt and I are facing these nutty charges. So spread the info. We believe that getting the word out is the best defense.
Second, call Homeland Security and turn us in. They seem to have trouble finding us. If you get a reward, you may choose to donate it to the Palast Investigative Fund, a 501(c)(3) educational foundation which supports our work and pays our legal fees.
Third, ask your local library to order our book, Armed Madhouse: Who's Afraid of Osama Wolf? Homeland Security now reserves the right to read over your shoulder at the library; therefore, the more our agents are forced to read this subversive material, the more likely we can convince them to come in out of the cold. All kidding aside, we do ask you to request your library order the book: not everyone can afford to purchase this hardbound edition.
Our thanks to Amy Goodman at Democracy Now! and the folks at LinkTV for broadcasting our report from New Orleans and the Exxon refinery. And to Gil Noble, host of the ABC Television's Like It Is, our Courage in Journalism award for broadcasting our report on his network's New York affiliate. Catch Gil on WABC every Sunday at noon.
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NEWS: Methane bubbling up from permafrost alarms some experts
Seth Borenstein
Associated Press
Sept. 10, 2006 12:00 AM
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0910permafrost0910.html
WASHINGTON - Global-warming gases trapped in the soil are bubbling out of the thawing permafrost in amounts far higher than previously thought and may trigger what researchers warn is a climate time bomb.
Methane, a greenhouse gas 23 times more powerful than carbon dioxide, is being released from the permafrost at a rate five times faster than thought, according to a study being published Thursday in the journal Nature. The findings are based on new, more accurate measuring techniques.
"The effects can be huge," said lead author Katey Walter of the University of Alaska at Fairbanks. "It's coming out a lot, and there's a lot more to come out." advertisement
Scientists worry about a global warming vicious cycle that was not part of their already gloomy climate forecast: Warming already under way thaws permafrost, soil that has been continuously frozen for thousands of years. Thawed permafrost releases methane and carbon dioxide. Those gases reach the atmosphere and help trap heat on Earth in the greenhouse effect. The trapped heat thaws more permafrost and so on.
"The higher the temperature gets, the more permafrost we melt, the more tendency it is to become a more vicious cycle," said Chris Field, director of global ecology at the Carnegie Institution of Washington, who was not part of the study. "That's the thing that is scary about this whole thing. There are lots of mechanisms that tend to be self-perpetuating and relatively few that tend to shut it off."
Some scientists say this vicious cycle is already under way, but others disagree.
Most of the methane-releasing permafrost is in Siberia. Another study earlier this summer in the journal Science found that the amount of carbon trapped in this type of permafrost, called yedoma, is much more prevalent than originally thought and may be 100 times the amount of carbon released into the air each year by the burning of fossil fuels.
It won't all come out at once or even over several decades, but if temperatures increase, then the methane and carbon dioxide will escape the soil, scientists say.
The permafrost issue has caused a quiet buzz of concern among climate scientists and geologists. Specialists in Arctic climate are coming up with research plans to study the permafrost effect, which is not well understood or observed, said Robert Corell, chairman of the Arctic Climate Impact Assessment, a study group of 300 scientists.
"It's kind of like a slow-motion time bomb," said Ted Schuur, a professor of ecosystem ecology at the University of Florida and co-author of the study in Science.
Most of the yedoma is in little-studied areas of northern and eastern Siberia. What makes that permafrost special is that much of it lies under lakes; the carbon below gets released as methane. Carbon beneath dry permafrost is released as carbon dioxide.
Using special underwater bubble traps, Walter and her colleagues found giant hot spots of bubbling methane that were never measured before because they were hard to reach.
Scientists aren't quite sure whether methane or carbon dioxide is worse. Methane is far more powerful in trapping heat, but lasts only about a decade before it dissipates into carbon dioxide and other chemicals. Carbon dioxide traps heat for about a century.
"The bottom line is it's better if it stays frozen in the ground," Schuur said. "But we're getting to the point where it's going more and more into the atmosphere."
Vladimir Romanovsky, geophysics professor at the University of Alaska, said he thinks the big methane or carbon-dioxide release hasn't started yet, but it's coming. In Alaska and Canada, which have far less permafrost than Siberia, it's closer to happening, he said.
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=13246723
one of her few actions recently that I would approve of :)
My justification of nuclear power is that we’ve reached a stage now where the dire things that threaten us are so great that even the results of an all-out nuclear war pale into insignificance as unimportant compared to what’s going to happen.
now that's a scary point
Updating Prescriptions for Avoiding Worldwide Catastrophe
Opponents of nuclear power have started a counteroffensive to Dr. Lovelock’s call for a new nuclear age, arguing that mining uranium and building nuclear plants releases huge amounts of carbon dioxide, and that the danger from accidents or terrorism is too great.
By ANDREW C. REVKIN
Published: September 12, 2006
Few scientists have elicited such equivalent heaps of praise and criticism as James E. Lovelock, the British chemist, inventor and planetary diagnostician who has long foreseen a clash between humans and their planet.
His work underpins much of modern environmentalism. The electron capture detector he invented in the 1950’s produced initial measurements of dispersed traces of pesticides and ozone-destroying chlorofluorocarbons, providing a foundation for the work of Rachel Carson and for studies revealing risks to the atmosphere’s protective ozone layer.
His conception in 1972 of the planet’s chemistry, climate and veneer of life as a self-sustaining entity, soon given the name Gaia, was embraced by the Earth Day generation and was ridiculed, but eventually accepted (with big qualifications), by many biologists.
Dr. Lovelock, honored in 1997 with the Blue Planet Prize, which is widely considered the environmental equivalent of a Nobel award, has now come under attack from some environmentalists for his support of nuclear power as a way to avoid runaway “global heating” — his preferred alternative to “global warming.”
In his latest book, “The Revenge of Gaia: Why the Earth Is Fighting Back — and How We Can Still Save Humanity” (Perseus, 2006), Dr. Lovelock says that any risks posed by nuclear power are small when compared with the “fever” of heat-trapping carbon dioxide produced by burning coal, oil and other fossil fuels.
In a review in the current edition of American Scientist, Brian Hayes, a senior writer, says the book contains “something each of us can admire and embrace, and also something each of us can disdain or ridicule.” He adds, “For me it’s pretty nearly an even mix.”
Opponents of nuclear power have started a counteroffensive to Dr. Lovelock’s call for a new nuclear age, arguing that mining uranium and building nuclear plants releases huge amounts of carbon dioxide, and that the danger from accidents or terrorism is too great. In an interview during a stop in Manhattan last week with his wife, Sandy, Dr. Lovelock, still fit and feisty at 87 and seemingly relishing his role as provocateur, said that such objections were baseless and dangerous.
He also offered a daunting prescription for avoiding utter catastrophe, while adding that something just short of that was clearly already under way.
Q. Why do you call it global heating and not global warming?
A. Warming is something that’s kind of cozy and comfortable. You think of a nice duvet on a cold winter’s day. Heating is something you want to get away from.
Q. What’s your perception of where we’re headed with even conservative predictions for growth of both populations and energy use?
A. I think we’re headed straight back to the Earth’s second stable state, which is a hot state that it’s been in many times before in the past. It’s about 14 degrees warmer than it is in these parts of the world now.
It means roughly that most life on the planet will have to move up to the Arctic basin, to the few islands that are still habitable and to oases on the continents. It will be a much-diminished world.
Q. Can you explain why you think nuclear power is so vital?
A. The really bad thing we did way back when was starting to burn things in the atmosphere to get energy. We started with fire, just cooking food, and probably could have gotten away with that. But once we started burning forests to drive the animals out as a cheap way of hunting, then we started on our downward course. What we’re doing now with fossil fuels is just as bad.
We live in a nuclear-powered universe. We’re the oddballs by getting energy from burning carbon.
My justification of nuclear power is that we’ve reached a stage now where the dire things that threaten us are so great that even the results of an all-out nuclear war pale into insignificance as unimportant compared to what’s going to happen.
Q. You seem to say we have to get over the idea that renewable energy sources — wind, solar — in the short run, are a useful way out of this.
A. I feel they’re largely gestures. If it makes people feel good to shove up a windmill or put a solar panel on their roof, great, do it. It’ll help a little bit, but it’s no answer at all to the problem.
Q. What is it about this issue that you think fails to capture adequate public or political attention?
A. I think it’s mainly because scientists, and I include myself amongst them, have not really understood what was going on until very, very recently. And also scientists tend to look at things much too academically.
What really got me to write the book was going to a meeting at the Hadley Center, a big climate lab near where I live, and talking to all the people there. And Sandy came with me, and we both got the impression that they were talking about the Earth as if it was another planet, not something they were actually standing on.
And they’re all talking about their own separate little bit. One was talking about glaciers melting, another about tropical forests in trouble. But they didn’t put it together as a whole-planet phenomenon. And when you did that, then each of their gloomy stories together became a devastating thesis.
Q. You say in the book that sustainable development is a fantasy, essentially, and you have a different notion for what needs to happen, of “sustainable retreat.”
A. At six-going-on-eight-billion people, the idea of any further development is almost obscene. We’ve got to learn how to retreat from the world that we’re in. Planning a good retreat is always a good measure of generalship.
Q. If you could take any facet of society — elected officials, doctors, writers — and show them one thing that you think could motivate the scale of change you’re talking about, any idea what you might do?
A. I would take them on a trip to the parts of the world where the changes are now maximum, and that is the Arctic. For example, not many years ago explorers were walking with dogsleds all the way to the North Pole regarding it as a great adventure. It’s only a matter of perhaps 30 years when they’ll have to go there in a sailboat.
Q. You seem to have two messages at once. One is sort of a hopeful sense of the innovative and adaptable aspect of humans, and the other is that we’re going to need all those skills.
A. The human species has been on the planet for a million years now. We’ve gone through seven major climatic changes that are equivalent to this. The ice ages were shifts in climate comparable with this one that’s coming. And we’ve survived.
That series of glaciations and interglacials put the pressures on us to select the kind of human that could adapt. And we’re the progeny of them. And we’re just up against a new and different stress. Maybe we’ll come out better.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/12/science/earth/12conv.html?_r=1&th&emc=th&oref=slogin
Bush's record on mercury... not entirely off topic since it seems to be an issue for coal burning plants (each item has additional link/info at link I provide below):
EPA's mercury pollution plan won't meet reduction targets on time (04/21/05)
States sue EPA over new mercury rule (03/29/05)
EPA weakens mercury reduction requirements for power plants (03/15/05)
Congressional watchdog agency concludes EPA distorted mercury analysis (03/07/05)
UN environmental summit agrees to voluntary approach to reduce mercury pollution (02/25/05)
White House scraps workshop on cardiovascular effects of mercury (02/11/05)
EPA mercury proposal favors industry, says agency's inspector general (02/03/05)
EPA balks at recommended mercury reduction technology (11/17/04)
EPA resists further mercury studies (06/25/04)
EPA bows to pressure to find "lost" mercury pollution (05/30/04)
White House altered scientific findings on mercury threat (04/07/04)
EPA uses utility company memos to craft controversial mercury policy (03/30/04)
EPA mercury regulations off-target (03/16/04)
EPA admits twice as many children in danger from mercury exposure (02/09/04)
EPA's mercury pollution plan mirrors industry's recommendations (01/30/04)
New EPA mercury rule fails to account for 'lost' emissions (12/19/03)
EPA proposes industry-preferred mercury pollution plan (12/15/03)
EPA moves to reclassify mercury as nontoxic (12/04/03)
EPA refuses to tackle rising mercury pollution in Great Lakes region (10/29/03)
EPA dodges Clear Skies comparisons (10/16/03)
EPA data on "Clear Skies" clearly wrong (03/10/03)
Bush air pollution plan weakens current law, threatens public health (02/27/03)
EPA delays report on mercury risk for children (02/20/03)
U.S. EPA fails to meet deadline for handing over air documents to Senate (10/25/02)
U.S. EPA misses deadlines on air toxics standards (09/17/02)
Bush clean air plan would boost coal use (04/17/02)
EPA will weaken federal clean air rules (03/18/02)
Bush announces rollback of power plant pollution rules (02/14/02)
EPA postpones action on power plants, expected to favor limited approach (08/14/01)
EPA wants to scrap air pollution regulations for power plants (07/26/01)
Energy Secretary Abraham lauds coal-burning power plant (07/02/01)
http://www.nrdc.org/bushrecord/health_mercury.asp
thanks for posting that info
Some volunteer rescuers from this area said that they were unaware of the dangers and would have worn protective equipment had they been notified.
you are far and above a better example of how not to post...
done with this subject, you obviously refuse to see yourself in the mirror I put up for you (your own words)
sorry to pop your bubble...
but your list is an example of how not to post and you know that
so how did you feel when the Bush admin tried to loosen the restrictions on mercury?
I didn't know about the mercury in flourescent bulbs... thanks for the info.
even with the very best in technology errors happen... a good example was the mars landing...err crash.
can't say that I have, wouldn't have known that
The epa came out with a very specific announcementn 4 days after 911 saying they had analyzed everything and there was no health hazard
whitman either acceded to the admin , or did it purposely
something we agree on
I was thinking of this...
The Money-Changers
by AUTHUR HAILEY
I'm very familiar with that passage. My step-father was an architectual engineer and was designing a Home Savings branch many many years ago... he use to joke that he'd design the tile mosaic exterior that was common to those branches as that scene where Jesus throws the money changers out of the temple.
Three Weeks to Save Darfur
Published: September 11, 2006
Last month the United Nations Security Council passed a resolution authorizing the creation of a peacekeeping force to intervene in Darfur. But it had a big catch. These troops can be deployed only with the consent of Sudan’s government, which in effect allows the regime responsible for this genocide to decide whether or not the killings will continue.
Clearly, that cannot be the end of the discussion. The next step is for leading governments, including Washington, to apply maximum political pressure on Sudan, all the countries that support it (including China) and all the nations that could help sway it from its current course. The Bush administration needs to couple its tough talk on Darfur with some focused, high-level diplomacy. This would be a good time for President Bush to name a special envoy for Darfur. To make clear that the full weight of the administration is behind the new envoy, Mr. Bush and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice should call officials in Sudan, China and Russia, as well as in powerful African countries like South Africa and Nigeria. Similar efforts should be made by leaders of the European Union.
At the end of this month, African Union forces, the only peacekeepers in Darfur, are scheduled to go home. That will leave the field open to President Omar Hassan al-Bashir and his army to resume the killing, which they have given every indication of doing. That gives the rest of the world only three weeks to avoid a worsening tragedy.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/11/opinion/11mon3.html?_r=1&th&emc=th&oref=slogin
George Clooney is in it, directs it and co wrote it. I was very impressed. And what I especially liked about it was that it had a genuine "feel" for that time frame.
did they mention that the Bush admin (epa) decided not to warm workers at the time?
security
1. freedom from danger, risk, etc.; safety.
2. freedom from care, anxiety, or doubt; well-founded confidence.
3. something that secures or makes safe; protection; defense.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=security
...regardless how small the probability of a serious reactor accident or a terrorist attack.
...reactor accident even though nuclear safety regulations, engineering, and operations reduce the likelihood of such accidents.
The existence of terrorist threats may affect the likelihood of a reactor accident, although it is not currently possible to estimate the change in probabilities with great confidence.
Doesn't sound all that reassuring to me. Just one Cherynobel is a giant problem... especially if it's in your backyard.
The problem is that no matter what safety measures you take, how careful you are, one mistake has GIANT consequences for many people.
Does it bother you that China/India are adding new coal fired plants at a record clip.
yeap, but don't forget we are still responsible for the lions share of CO2.
great quotes.
Have you seen Good Night and Good Luck? Excellent movie.
The less secure a man is, the more likely he is to have extreme prejudice. Clint Eastwood
The Price of Security
Discovery Channel
Ted Koppel
good show and I have to give big kudos to Koppel for having open live discussion after the formal presentation... particpants included Tom Ridge, 911 familes, ACLU, Jamie Gorelick (member 911 commission), Paul McNulty, and more...
something Jamie Gorelick said really hit home for me... is that where we are failing is having open discussions between this admin and congress about issues of security and civil liberties
(still watching...)
don't be a lazy clod
if I didn't already have a list that was already too long... I'd have to add that one LOL
and this...
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=2542577&txt2find=bev+harris+
can you intelligently discuss this subject?
Tom Eschberger became vice president of ES&S not long after he accepted an immunity deal for cooperating with prosecutors in a case against Arkansas Secretary of State Bill McCuen, who pleaded guilty to taking kickbacks and bribes in a scheme related to computerized voting systems.
Black Box Voting
Bev Harris
Diebold’s principal engineer, Ken Clark, wrote a memo on January 14, 2002, describing his intent to avoid putting his newly modified software through California’s certification process by fudging a version number. He wrote, “What good are rules if you can’t bend them now and again?”
Black Box Voting
by Bev Harris
The Washington Post called Hagel's 1996 win "the major Republican upset in the November election." Hagel swept all three congressional districts, becoming the first Republican to win a U.S. Senate seat in Nebraska in 24 years. "He won counties up and down the politically diverse Platte River Valley and topped it off with victories in Omaha and Lincoln," reported the Hastings Tribune.
What the media didn't report is that Hagel's job, until two weeks before he announced his run for Senate, was running the voting machine company whose machines would count his votes...
Six years later, when asked about his ownership of ES&S by Lincoln's Channel 8 TV News, Hagel said he had sold that stock. If so, the stock he says he sold was never listed as one that he'd owned.
This is not a gray area. This is lying. Hagel's failure to disclose his financial relationship with the company was not brought to the attention of the public, and this was a material omission.
Black Box Voting
by Bev Harris