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Hooka & maddawg1: thanks for the real story on SHG
Really helps to clear up a lot of thing.
Now that SHG is back in the mix, it's good to keep some this this in mind.
I agree. It's all about selling shares.
They are currently laying the groundwork for the R/S.
Get folks to slowly accept the possibility of it...then BAM...R/S and more dilution to follow.
It's getting closer and closer to 2012! R/S will happen in 2012. JAG will probably disappear.
New management will be hired and the game will begin anew.
It's a SCAM, dude.
Waters
Spot on, sir. Very shady. The fact that it took a member of IHUB to confirm that they'd, indeed, created the new HFBG website speaks to the lack of transparency on the part of HFBG!
HFBG would have folks believe SHG created the new website out of the goodness of their hearts. Sure.
The only reason SHG turned against HFBG, last year, was because they were owed money. Without that hiccup, they would have continued to turn a blind eye to the PUMP / DUMP SCAM known as HFBG.
I didn't know they'd offered HFBG 504 funding...that's wild.
This SCAM knows no end.
Waters
We all knew Calvin Ross wasn't just going to walk from from his personal ATM.
SHG is also back in the mix.
The SCAM never sleeps...it preys on those who do.
Waters
I agree. That's all it (HFBG) ever will be...A SCAM.
Calvin Ross and Giovanni Luciano are SCAM artists. Probably swindled Larry Johnson out of money. Most athletes are easy prey for criminals like Ross and Luciano. Now, to get some of the money back, Larry Johnson allows them to use his name, for the next phase of their SCAM, in exchange for financial kickbacks.
Notice how uncomfortable Larry Johnson looked in the LV "office" pics. Notice how reluctant Larry Johnson is to mention the product in interviews. He knows it is a SCAM.
The problem is that so many have made money convincing others that it is anything but a SCAM! The same players want to continue to milk this SCAM cow, so they continue to parrot HFBG's lies and inflated PRs.
Tons of shares have been dumped on unsuspecting investors who have believed the lies put forth by the company and its enablers.
Downright criminal what has happened...
Waters
LOL! Those "office" pics were among the most pathetic things I've ever seen a celebrity do to make money.
They were obviously staged photos.
Larry Johnson should be ashamed of himself for participating in this SCAM.
There have to be other legitimate avenues for you to make money, Larry.
One of your NBA buddies should be able to help you out. You don't have to participate in SCAMS.
Waters
LOL! R/S with no dilution to follow? In what universe?
I see that HFBG is beginning to lay the groundwork for the R/S by attempting to formulate a rationale for such action.
Ease it onto the people. Next thing you know, they are readily accepting it!
This SCAM knows no end...
Waters
Just kicking the ball down the road until 2012 hits....REVERSE SPLIT.
Delay...delay...delay...
HFBG is still the same old SCAM.
Waters
Any word on how SHG is being compensated?
Apparently, they created the new HFBG website out of the goodness of their hearts! LOL!
And, given SHG's IHUB presence, they appear to be doing quasi-IR work for the company, again?
Any word on their compensation?
Or the compensation for the "seasoned beverage consultants" for that matter?
Thanks.
Waters
Bingo. The DTCC is just the perfect excuse at the moment.
If product was out there and selling, it would have been mentioned by now. Someone would have seen it.
Nothing is happening. Just another phase of the SCAM.
I agree. A lot of athletes, like Larry Johnson, think they can translate their athletic success into business success.
There's a good quote in the SI article:
Showing up, where?
It's in Big Lots because of Wham. Wham is not that difficult to sell to! It's not like Wham sought out HFBG because it wanted the tea.
More than likely, HFBG sought out Wham and sold them the products at a severe discount.
You could have some beverages and probably sell to Wham: http://www.whamfoods.com/selltous.html
It's not that difficult. The PR, as all of HFBG's PRs, made it out to be a bigger deal than it really is!
The real news yet to be heard is the placement of the new tea! Where is it being placed? We were told by JAG that it was all spoken for.
Yet, no one has seen new tea on shelves. You'd think someone would have seen it by now!
Waiting...
Waters
Yes. The product has never been the problem.
The problem has always been the "management" responsible for getting the product out to the masses.
Calvin Ross and Giovanni Luciano are consummate SCAM artists, who are only interested in selling shares.
Larry Johnson is a washed up NBA player who is only looking for a financial kickback in exchange for using his name.
It remains to be seen what JAG is all about...I'm thinking she got pulled into the SCAM by Johnson and Ross.
Waters
All over the place...that was a lot of tea collecting dust!
Just as the current batch is somewhere collecting dust.
Well, except for the few bottles that went to sporting good stores in the backwoods of PA!
They are the few lucky bottles who managed to escape to a better life! LOL! The rest are somewhere languishing in a dusty warehouse prison.
Waters
Hey...it could have been a non-monetary transaction.
Like...**cough**....SHARES...SHARES...SHARES...**cough**
Nothing happens for free.
Waters
LOL! On what planet does that happen?
Last I checked, HFBG owed SHG money. Remember the wealth of information SHG provided detailing as much? LOL. It's amazing how amnesia suddenly takes hold around here!
"Lending a helping hand for no fees..." Suuuuureeeee...
Waters
Funny how none of this type of information is made public...
Former IR is working for HFBG...posting on IHUB.
Interesting...
Waters
LOL! That's what I've always said! Larry Johnson's "fame" was 15 years ago. Add that to the fact that he's not actively promoting the product!
The product could be the best tea on the market, but folks aren't going to buy it because "Grand Ma Ma" is on it! Maybe 15 years ago.
Not now. They need a better marketing approach.
Like I said, most athletes go broke after retirement.
Did you read the article: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1153364
Lots of athletes get huge contracts and end up broke.
They have children with multiple women and have to pay child support.
Some get divorced after their careers end, which can prove to be costly, financially.
Some get suckered by shady businessmen to sink their money into SCAMS.
Waters
Lots of athletes get plenty of money via contracts.
But...But...But...I thought all the tea was already spoken for.
But...But...But...I thought US Food and C&S were pushing the tea?
Yet, still only Red Robin and the sporting goods stores, which happen to be in PA? Not much difference from the past. Stuff has always shown up in PA, as Dennis lives there.
Where is the new placement?
Waters
So, the only placement is still Red Robin and the sporting goods stores?
LOL! I thought all the tea was spoken for?
What a joke.
Waters
I doubt Johnson has millions!
If he did, he'd not be associating with a penny stock company like HFBG, which has a history of SCAMMING investors out of money!
The bottom line is this: Johnson allowed Ross/Luciano to use his name in exchange for a kickback here and there.
Where is Johnson promoting the product?
Waters
I agree. Wham didn't waste any time!
Where's the new tea being placed?
And where is Larry Johnson? Shouldn't he be promoting his product?
NBA has canceled 43 preseason games. And the regular season may be in jeopardy! No guest appearances (oops...tea promotions) for Johnson, I suppose.
An almost word-for-word copy of the first sentence from post# 132314.
Maybe I'm going crazy. Interesting.
HFBG-land will do that to you!
Do you still have that stuff about James Robinson, who was supposed to place cakes and pies in K-Mart?
Apparently, Calvin Ross have you some information to share with the members of IHUB?
Thanks. I was a really thorough analysis of HFBG. I'm impressed!
Waters
Which post# was this?
Waters
LOL! Yes. And no Joshua Management Group doing the audit!
That group is linked to Calvin Ross.
Yet, they are still certifying the company's financial documents.
Really?
Waters
Nope. No confusion, here. Had this same discussion, earlier, with another person who repeated the same talking point.
Poor management is not the same as SCAM artists.
Poor management doesn't create people out of thin air ( Thomas Love ).
Poor management doesn't lie about deals when they don't exist.
That's the work of SCAM artists.
I find it funny that there's a desire to rewrite the history of the last year as it relates to HFBG.
Now, Ross and Luciano were simply poor stewards of the company? LOL! Really?
Folks can easily dig up all the messages about float lock downs and other schemes unleashed on unsuspecting investors as Ross was diluting this pig.
Revisionist history cannot make their garbage smell any better.
Waters
LOL! The funniest thing is the world is the "link" request vis-a-vis a SCAM.
Was there a link to Bernie Madoff's SCAM? Or a link to ENRON's scandalous activities?
Why would SCAM artists be dumb enough to leave a trail of hyperlinks to their SCAM? Ross and Luciano are dumb, but not that dumb.
Stock House Group did compile a lot of data detailing the nature of the SCAM and the lies of its architects.
Waters
Corrected: Ross/Giovanni/Hendricks/?/Godfrey time span
Thomas Love is not a real person, so I put a question mark there!
The fact that Brad came in a "fired" Thomas Love, who had an incredible resume, is one of the most absurd things that happened in the last year of HFBG...
Waters
Still don't understand how two errors appeared on the labels?
Wasn't Larry Johnson reading the labels? LOL!
There were pictures from the first run in which Larry Johnson was inspecting the labels!
Yet, they still put them on the bottles! Makes no sense.
SCAM!
Waters
Like I said, there's a difference between poor management and a SCAM.
Poor management doesn't live off shareholder money.
SCAM artists do that.
Waters
There's a different between poor management and a SCAM.
Poor management does create officers out of thin air.
SCAM artists do that.
Any proof that Thomas Love exists?
Remember when Brad came in and fired Love, immediately?
Love's resume was great! LOL!
Waters
I cannot recall anyone saying the tea is not a good product.
But, many have called it a SCAM and have presented all kinds of information that represents red flags.
Waters