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LOL! Or the part mentioning an IHUB poster! More evidence that HFBG spends more time monitoring IHUB than actually doing real work.
Many thanks to SHG for capturing JAG's words for all the world to hear. I downloaded the audio before it gets taken down.
Especially the part about Joshua Management Group. She mentioned that they don't audit public companies, yet they have been auditing HFBG's financials for the last couple of years. The attorney letters go as far as to say that Aaron Joshua (Calvin Thornton) is a CPA! LOL!
Wouldn't surprise me if a lengthy report, with all those types of pictures, phony PRs and other evidence, showed up in the email boxes of the following folks. Rudy was a nice takedown, as was Willie Gault. But, Larry Johnson's takedown would be major news! He was the #1 pick in the NBA draft! David Stern wouldn't like all the negative news associated with the NBA after dealing with the lockout saga!
Scott W. Friestad
Email: friestads@sec.gov
James A. Kidney
Email: kidneyj@sec.gov
Robert B. Kaplan
Email: kaplanr@sec.gov
Julie M. Riewe
Email: riewej@sec.gov
Anthony S. Kelly
Email: kellya@sec.gov
Frederick L. Block
Email: BlockF@sec.gov
Paul W. Kisslinger
Email: kisslingerp@sec.gov
Anthony R. Petrilla
Email: Petrillaa@sec.gov
I can see the headline, now:
Larry Johnson couldn't separate himself from the (HFBG) if he tried...
If Rudy and Willie went down, Larry is definitely going to be toast! LOL!
When the FEDs come a knockin', he's going to have to answer!
He's as much a part of the SCAM as (Calvin Thornton), Giovanni Luciano, JAG and others...
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Waters
Nope. It's dead. Traders need to be able to sell shares to gullible investors.
Problem is no one believes the lies anymore. The PRs are basically considered published lies by the investing public.
Nothing HFBG says or does is even believed by the diehard HFBG supporters anymore.
That speaks volumes.
Those former diehards will sound the alarm whenever HFBG attempts to sell more lies...
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Waters
The difference then was not as many folks knew it was simply a share selling scam.
Now, everyone knows it a share selling scam.
Even with a "slim" SS, no one is touching this garbage with a ten foot pole.
Waters
LOL! Exactly. Is HFBG arrogant enough to believe new money will trust them, given its recent history of non-performance, lies and deceit.
LOL! Wow. All these washed up athletes getting caught up in in pump/dump scams.
Rudy, Willie...Larry Johnson should know that his name will be in the headlines once again, soon.
Only a matter of time.
Waters
She has tons of "finance" experience, correct?
How about she tap into that vast pool of "experience" and come up with something creative?
Up to this point, her tons "finance" experience has only led to her doing the exact same thing that Calvin Thornton did to raise money--sell more shares.
And it sounds like that's her plan going foward--to sell more shares.
Oh. And here's a bright idea: how about Larry Johnson throw some of his own money into the pot? LOL! Revolutionary idea, right? LOL!
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Waters
Only a matter of time. Folks have all the evidence they need.
PRs with blatant lies are archived.
Blatant acts associated with pump/dump are archived.
Pure manipulation via "float lock down" schemes. Yep. All there for the world to see.
Larry Johnson's complicity can be proved. Folks need to gather all the evidence, put it in one report and send it to the following folks. Not emotional emails. Just straight facts that can be proved.
Mr. Friestad just closed the "Rudy" case. Taking down another "celebrity" would be another notch in his belt.
Scott W. Friestad
Email: friestads@sec.gov
James A. Kidney
Email: kidneyj@sec.gov
Robert B. Kaplan
Email: kaplanr@sec.gov
Julie M. Riewe
Email: riewej@sec.gov
Anthony S. Kelly
Email: kellya@sec.gov
Frederick L. Block
Email: BlockF@sec.gov
Paul W. Kisslinger
Email: kisslingerp@sec.gov
Anthony R. Petrilla
Email: Petrillaa@sec.gov
The Q&A did nothing to increase the confidence of the investing community's in HFBG's ability to be a beverage company.
HFBG may think they can R/S and start the game, again.
But, no one will touch this garbage after understanding the recent history.
This board will become super negative. Once diehard HFBG supporters will join the rest who've pointed out HFBG's criminal acts and relentlessly tell the world about them.
HFBG's best best is for JAG to use her extensive "financial skills" and create new avenues to raise money. Despite her extensive "financial skills" we've yet to see any creative approaches to financing HFBG--only selling shares! Calvin Thornton was an expert at that!
Raising money from the public is a dead option. And will be even more so after another R/S and A/S increase.
Another option would be for (Larry Johnson) to come out his own pocket and fund HFBG for a couple of quarters. Then, once investors see HFBG is functional without increased dilution, and selling beverages, then an R/S and subsequent A/S would be warranted as confidence would have been instilled.
But, an immediate R/S would be a death blow to (HFBG). The SEC would get all kinds of complaints from even the diehard HFBG fans! LOL!
(Scott W. Friestad)
Email: friestads@sec.gov
James A. Kidney
Email: kidneyj@sec.gov
Robert B. Kaplan
Email: kaplanr@sec.gov
Julie M. Riewe
Email: riewej@sec.gov
Anthony S. Kelly
Email: kellya@sec.gov
Frederick L. Block
Email: BlockF@sec.gov
Paul W. Kisslinger
Email: kisslingerp@sec.gov
Anthony R. Petrilla
Email: Petrillaa@sec.gov
Waters
Yeah. Mainly softball questions. What I got out of it is:
1) The fact that she continued to call Calvin "Calvin Ross" instead of "Calvin Thornton" demonstrates for all the world to see that JAG and SHG are all for continuing this scam. The con artist's name is Calvin Thornton. She was also incredibly "protective" of Calvin in that interview. Speaks volumes.
2) JAG doesn't know anything about running a business. Her description of her previous work experience was pure comedy.
3) Larry Johnson has nothing to do with HFBG.
4) She even went as far as to say that Joshua Management Group doesn't specialize in public companies. Well, why are they auditing HFBG's financials? HFBG is a public company! LOL!
5) Their main concern is with selling shares. Hence, the intense focus on the share structure. I thought JAG was an experienced financial professional! Yet, her only means to raise money is selling shares! So, expect a R/S, then the game to start, again, with A/S increases.
6) It's time to put an end to this charade once and for all. Great contacts to get the ball rolling:
Scott W. Friestad
Email: friestads@sec.gov
James A. Kidney
Email: kidneyj@sec.gov
Robert B. Kaplan
Email: kaplanr@sec.gov
Julie M. Riewe
Email: riewej@sec.gov
Anthony S. Kelly
Email: kellya@sec.gov
Frederick L. Block
Email: BlockF@sec.gov
Paul W. Kisslinger
Email: kisslingerp@sec.gov
Anthony R. Petrilla
Email: Petrillaa@sec.gov
There's more than enough evidence of blatant lies and deception! Friestad just did the "Rudy" case. Larry Johnson is another celebrity Friestad can bust!
They're planning to R/S and start the game all over, again. A couple of points of contact to consider. Wouldn't surprise me if they start getting emails from investors determined to end this farce once and for all. Friestad just finished the case against "Rudy" and his phony beverage company.
Scott W. Friestad
Email: friestads@sec.gov
James A. Kidney
Email: kidneyj@sec.gov
Robert B. Kaplan
Email: kaplanr@sec.gov
Julie M. Riewe
Email: riewej@sec.gov
Anthony S. Kelly
Email: kellya@sec.gov
Frederick L. Block
Email: BlockF@sec.gov
Paul W. Kisslinger
Email: kisslingerp@sec.gov
Anthony R. Petrilla
Email: Petrillaa@sec.gov
R/S right around the corner, folks...
JAG's description of her resume was pure comedy. Was she a bank teller? Loan officer? LOL!
This hot piece of garbage that calls itself a company needs to be shut down ASAP.
LOL! Uplisting. Same story from last year.
Waters
LOL @ them continuing to call Calvin "Calvin Ross" instead of "Calvin Thornton".
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Waters
Apparently, today.
LOL! It was probably just a trial run by RR. I doubt they're re-ordering.
Same with the sporting goods store. I'm sure it was just a one-time thing arranged by Dennis.
Remember US Food, Haddon House, C&S, etc.?
Nothing!
So much hype, so little substance.
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Waters
Folks "blast" HFBG because it has a proven history of telling lies, being deceitful and shady.
If it did things the right way, and the company were simply not succeeding, that'd be one thing.
It's a totally different matter when the company constantly lies so it can steal money from the public investing community.
Again, after all the years of phony PRs and billions of share sold, where is the product being sold?
Where is a full accounting for where all the money from the investing public has gone?
That's why folks "blast" HFBG.
It's a natural reaction to years of lies, deceit and shady happenings as it relates to HFBG.
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Waters
Exactly. The "Rudy" case took a couple years as the SEC built their case.
http://www.sec.gov/news/press/2011/2011-268.htm
LOL! Doesn't surprise me one bit.
HFBG is a SCAM orchestrated by Calvin Thornton. And that's all it ever will be.
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Waters
LOL! Calvin Thornton wasn't going to walk away from his personal ATM.
BTW, how many "shorts" do you think we'll see today?
Oops...I forgot HFBG isn't a shortable stock!
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LOL! Old friend?
Calvin seems to burn all bridges, right? He's simply bad news.
His association with (HFBG) should tell you where it is headed!
A lifelong con artist describes (Calvin Thornton) best.
Even in the photo, he looks like he's thinking up a scheme to steal money.
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Waters
Old news. The board debated and discussed that photo in great detail months ago.
Tea placement news (or lack thereof) is the most important item folks need to be talking about.
This is a beverage company, right?
Yet, it sells no beverages!
But, it sells a lot of shares!
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Waters
Good point! (Calvin Thornton) never left!
He never stopped thinking about new ways to milk money out of investors via the (HFBG) saga.
I'd guess Calvin is somewhere reading a book or a couple of articles on short selling so he can twist it to blame HFBG's collapse on "shorts" rather than the dilution and lack of performance by the company.
BTW...Keep on scamming Jessica! Hold onto those shares, no one cares!
LOL!
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Calvin (in the black hat), thinking of new "plains" to steal money. It's his only skill.
Waters
Post CEO questions here:
http://halloffamebeveragesir.wordpress.com/2011/12/12/ceo-interview/#comment-4
My challenge to JAG is to answer all questions. Whatever she cannot cover in the CEO interview, she should take the time to answer in a public letter on the website.
That'd be a big step step toward transparency.
Waters
By the way, where is Larry Johnson?
Still have yet to get a valid explanation for his disappearance! LOL!
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Waters
Pulse looks like a real beverage company, whereas HFBG is simply a share selling operation.
Notice the quality of Pulse's website.
Founder not afraid to put his bio and picture on the website.
HFBG could learn a thing or two from Pulse! LOL!
Then again, HFBG is a share selling operation, so it wouldn't learn much from a real beverage company.
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Waters
LOL! Did you really think Calvin Thornton was going to walk away from his personal ATM?
Notice how it is always described as Jessica being "handed" a mess?
I thought she purchased the company?
Being "handed" something and "purchasing" something are two different things.
Calvin Thornton is still running things.
And this latest stunt is right in line with the types of tactics we've seen in the past.
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Waters
LOL! Exactly. The last thing Calvin Thornton wants is a scrutinizing eye to take a closer look at this "company" he has called HFBG.
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Waters
Handed? I thought she purchased HFBG? LOL! What were the terms of the purchase?
I agree. Sounds like a typical HFBG move.
Waters
The fact of the matter is the article can be copied in such a way as to attempt to mislead people.
If the ENTIRE article is copied, including the header, one could easily see the date of publication.
The article was posted here after simply copying the lower half and not showing that date adjacent to the chart.
Had that been done, it would have eliminated the confusion, immediately.
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Waters
If you look at the full article, here's the actual date of publication:
Hall of Fame Beverages Grand Ma Ma on Sale at Sporting Goods Stores
Date : 09/01/2011 @ 9:30AM
Source : MarketWire
Stock : Hall of Fame Beverages, Inc (HFBG)
Quote : 0.0001 0.0 (0.00%) @ 8:05AM
The code used to generated the page queries the current date, even if the news is old.
If that weren't the case, the article should show yesterday's chart.
It doesn't.
The news NEVER changes. The publication date NEVER changes.
But, the code used to generated the article constantly queries the current date and the current chart embedded, which updates throughout the day.
If you don't believe me, check the article, again, at mid-day or after lunch.
Waters
No. The date of publication never changes.
The date adjacent to the chart will always change, as that data is always changing.
It's as simple as that.
That's why the chart is an embedded object in the article. Click it and it takes you to the actual real-time chart for HFBG.
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Waters
It pastes the date scale for the chart, not the article.
That's how IHUB clarifies the data in the chart, not how it reports the news.
Big difference.
If you had copied the entire article, you would have gotten the correct date at the top.
But, only the bottom portion of the article was copied, with the date for today's chart, making it appear as if the article was released, today!
Waters
LOL! Good catch.
It's HFBG! Would you expect anything other than misleading actions? I'm not even surprised by their antics anymore.
As a matter of fact, I'd be surprised if they actually didn't pull any antics!
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Waters
Some information is presented in an attempt to distract and/or control the nature of the conversation.
Some want investors to focus on anything other than the lack of performance by the company.
That's what the "daily" short claims are about. They've been debunked, disproved and anything else you can do to them.
Yet, the same false claims continue to show up on the HFBG board, daily.
They're meant to distract.
I wonder why an attempt would be made to distract from the real issues relating to HFBG?
Interesting.
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Waters
LOL! Wow. Most never believed HFBG was a real company.
This just serves to reinforce that point to those who believed otherwise.
HFBG isn't running anywhere. It'll run in place at No Bid until it is R/S'd.
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I think FEW care if its a "real" Company or not,,After all how many "Real" Companies on Nasdaq and NYSE have made such incompetent business plans and poor business decisions that cost the little guy their ASSets,?? TONS!..So in Pennyland, the highest risk terrain of all,I don't think any common sense trader needs to be told of the risks..It's like saying to your friend who is going on a tour in Iraq "BEWARE, BEWARE!! There might be land mines and bullets flyin' around..No KIDDING!.The issue in Pennyland is MAKING MONEY and knowing when to get in and get out..NOTHING to do with "Is it a real Company or not.." That bein said, Granny has proven she can make tons of money for smart traders,,And the great news that should be out this week will make Granny run hard again,,On your mark, get set...
Shady is an understatement.
Those are all moves Calvin Thornton would pull.
Which leaves no doubt he is still pulling the strings.
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Waters
If that were the case, HFBG should be great, as it has milked the public out of more than enough money to be functional over the years.
But, we know HFBG is anything but great. It's not even medicore!
The money raised via the public markets, over the years, has been misappropriated by (Calvin V. Thornton) and friends.
It takes more than just money to build a great company. It also takes honest leadership with vision. Emphasis on honest.
With con artists and criminals, like (Calvin Thornton), associated with HFBG, it was never intended to be a functional beverage company--simply a share selling SCAM. Which is unfortunate, as the product actually had potential.
(Calvin Thornton) learned a couple of things about the stock market from his brother, (Ivan Thornton), and translated it into a stock selling SCAM to line his pockets.
The rest is history...
Eventually, Ivan will see his name linked to the HFBG saga in GOOGLE searches. Definitely not a good look for him, given the great reputation he's worked so hard to create over the years.
All because he had the unfortunate luck of being born in the same family with a con artist like (Calvin Thornton)!
BTW! It takes $$$$$$ to build a company.