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I agree. Save it for what?
It's not a beverage company. Are beverages on shelves in reasonable numbers? Nope.
Doesn't appear to be in the beverage business.
Have billions of shares been sold? Yep.
Appears to be in the share selling business.
In short, nothing worth saving.
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Fair enough. I agree. At least Dennis was able to get it to stores in the backwoods of PA.
But, it was still a share selling SCAM then as it is now. But now, with no Dennis, it's simply a share selling SCAM without the appearance of placement happening!
Other than that, can you agree that:
The RS noise comes from the same source of the float lock down SCAM last year.
Fairly easy to prove. Beauty of IHUB!
Waters
Yep. But, that'd mean HFBG had actually been doing real work. That it's a real company.
But, we know it's a share selling scam.
The RS noise comes from the same source of the float lock down SCAM last year.
That should tell you all you need to know...
Why would new "momo" be interested in an obvious and proven SCAM?
HFBG needs to prove itself as a legitimate company, first.
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Wow. Interesting stuff!
Folks have spoken with Larry Johnson's agent (Mr. George Bass). He doesn't even know--or pretends to not know--that HFBG exists!
You can contact him, here: gbass@aaisports.com
http://www.aaisports.com/company.php
Get your popcorn ready, folks!
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LOL! Good luck with that.
Larry Johnson will just attempt to play dumb.
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It's a SCAM. A R/S is not going to change that fact.
Everyone knows it's a SCAM, especially after Brad's allegations.
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LOL! Bingo. Calvin Thornton is a criminal. Simple and plain.
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After the last R/S, HFBG wasn't a known share selling scam.
Now, everyone knows what HFBG is all about.
New money will visit the board, see the many truths about HFBG, and run for the hills.
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That would be the smart way to do it.
Build up current and potential investor confidence prior to the R/S by releasing a series of legitimate PRs.
That would give "new money" confidence that HFBG is headed in the right direction and take the sting out of it for current investors.
Then, HFBG would have momentum after the R/S.
But, to simply R/S, given HFBG's current reputation of non-performance, is to kill HFBG.
Folks already lack confidence in the company's ability to perform. That confidence will not be increased with a R/S! LOL!
HFBG is too dumb to see the forest for the trees. Then again, greed will do that to you!
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Oh really? How did that happen?
Oh. I think I know!
Hilarious!
I agree. It's a proven POS. Yet, some seem to believe others will throw money at this after a R/S.
Anyone with a functioning brain would know to stay far, far away from this share selling SCAM.
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Classic HFBG move. They are habitual liars.
That may have worked a couple of years ago, before camera phones and other internet technologies.
Now, one can easily verify the absurdity of their lies.
They'll say whatever they think will stick so they can sell more shares.
(HFBG) is the personal ATM of criminal mastermind (Calvin V. Thornton).
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For the 1,000,000th time, no one is shorting HFBG.
It's a false claim.
But, something that isn't a false claim is the fact that HFBG is a share selling scam that continues to sell more shares than beverages.
Which puts in in the share selling business as opposed to the beverage business.
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And HFBG thinks folks will throw money at this after ANOTHER R/S?
Too many folks know this is a share selling scam, now.
Last year, only a few voices were willing to say this...now, it's pretty much common knowledge!
HFBG's best bet is to attain some degree of success in the short term. Just get the tea in a couple of stores which can be verified.
Get Larry Johnson back out there promoting it afterward.
Then, lay out the case for the need for more funds.
That's the appropriate way to go about it.
Just doing a R/S for the sake of doing a R/S will be a deathblow and will be the act that brings the hammer down from the SEC and DOJ.
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All of the above.
DOJ with wire and securities fraud charges.
The SEC will tackle the float lockdown and other illegal crap HFBG and associates have pulled.
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HFBG is a share selling scam.
A R/S is done, in this case, for the express purpose of selling more shares.
HFBG's actions have proven time and time again that its not in the business of selling beverages, only shares.
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Great. Please feel free to share that information with the following people so they can take a closer look at HFBG!
Scott W. Friestad
Email: friestads@sec.gov
Blaine T. Welsh
Assistant United States Attorney
Email: Blaine.Welsh@usdoj.gov
James A. Kidney
Email: kidneyj@sec.gov
Robert B. Kaplan
Email: kaplanr@sec.gov
Julie M. Riewe
Email: riewej@sec.gov
Anthony S. Kelly
Email: kellya@sec.gov
Frederick L. Block
Email: BlockF@sec.gov
Paul W. Kisslinger
Email: kisslingerp@sec.gov
Anthony R. Petrilla
Email: Petrillaa@sec.gov
Waters
I agree. Calvin Thornton, JAG and friends will have to deal with the DOJ when those wire and securities fraud charges are handed out.
Add to those the charges the SEC will toss at them.
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Bingo! She has no prior experience running a business.
She's just in it to sell shares and put money in the pockets of the HFBG scam clan and friends.
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Well, from JAG's own words, we know JMG's not certified to do handle accounting for a publicly traded company!
Yet, Joshua Management Group continues to certify HFBG's financials!
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Yes. It's great SHG was able to capture audio of JAG admitting that Joshua Management Group doesn't audit public companies.
Indeed. It appears JMG is in the management consulting business! LOL!
Yet, it certifies HFBG's financials!
Excellent info.
No listing of Aaron Joshua in the CPA directory: http://www.cpadirectory.com
LinkedIn profile: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/aaron-joshua/7/a6b/762
Over 20 years in business and only one customer--HFBG! Sure....
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LOL! If overhead and capital requirements are kept to a minimum, HFBG shouldn't have to continue to raise money through dilution every quarter.
Tea doesn't cost that much to produce compared to the amount of money raised.
JAG is already on the record as saying Joshua Management Group doesn't audit public companies. Yet, it is certifying HFBG's financials! By the way, Joshua Management Group is connect to Calvin Thornton.
Aaron Joshua = Joshua Ross = Aaron Ross = Calvin Ross = Ishamil Ross = Thomas Love = CALVIN THORNTON
HFBG's financials cannot be believed.
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LOL! A Christmas gift in the form of laughter!
HFBG hasn't attempted to deliver one iota of value to shareholders. The only value they've added is to their own pockets via incessant dilution after numerous A/S increases.
There's still no accounting of where all the money went. There's a huge gap between what it costs to make the tea and the amount of money raised via the public markets.
HFBG has had no marketing campaign. It doesn't own or lease any facilities. So, there's no reasonable explanation to justify why they keep running out of money!
The only way to explain it is misappropriation.
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LOL! Nope. Larry Johnson is arrogant like any other athlete who thinks they can associate with con artists, like Calvin Thornton, and not get caught up in the aftermath!
Larry's biggest mistake was allowing himself to be captured on camera, helping to facilitate the SCAM.
Like this:
He even went as far as to help continue the lie about the Biagio Cru deal, which was obviously a lie:
Waters
I wonder how much shareholder money Calvin Thornton used to purchase Christmas gifts?
How much shareholder money JAG used to purchase gifts for her kids? LOL!
Plenty of money misappropriated over the years!
Yet, HFBG and friends are trying to justify another R/S so they can keep their ATM going!
I'm sure the following will get plenty of emails from folks:
Scott W. Friestad
Email: friestads@sec.gov
James A. Kidney
Email: kidneyj@sec.gov
Robert B. Kaplan
Email: kaplanr@sec.gov
Julie M. Riewe
Email: riewej@sec.gov
Anthony S. Kelly
Email: kellya@sec.gov
Frederick L. Block
Email: BlockF@sec.gov
Paul W. Kisslinger
Email: kisslingerp@sec.gov
Anthony R. Petrilla
Email: Petrillaa@sec.gov
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Waters
LOL! Is this the same source of the float lock down scheme from last year that helped milk innocent investors out their money?
That float lock down scheme was criminality at its finest.
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LOL! Funny! So, Larry Johnson would put his money in after the R/S?
What has stopped him from doing it up to this point?
This is a share selling scam.
Larry Johnson knows that. That's why he hasn't put any money into it. It's that simple.
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Try installing or updating your QuickTime program to a newer version.
Waters
How about she and HFBG just go away?
It's obviously not a beverage business. It's only in the business of selling shares.
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Despite what folks are saying, JAG must weight a R/S heavily against the potential heat she'd draw from the SEC and others.
This company is as criminal as they come, so she knows a R/S would raise a red flag, especially after the multiple A/S increases over the last year.
More than likely, all the noise you hear is just a couple of traders trying to get folks to unload at the end of the year at 0.0001.
As far as JAG is concerned, she has no real business experience. We still have yet to see her resume. And the description she gave in the interview was as ambiguous as you can get. We still don't know what her past experience entails! LOL!
In sum, HFBG remains a share selling SCAM...BEWARE!
Billions of shares sold over the last few years...product still not on shelves!
Yet, folks are saying a R/S will miraculously change the trajectory of the company! Yeah, right! LOL!
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LOL! How many times is HFBG going to "move forward"?
It continues to "move forward" to nowhere.
HFBG has been "moving forward" for the last couple of years. Yet, here it is--still the same share selling SCAM it was then.
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Really? How else will they raise money?
JAG's "extensive financial skills" have only led to more share selling since she's come aboard!
The company has no revenue stream. It's only way of making money is selling shares! Yet, some would like to have gullible people believe dilution ends after a R/S.
Give me a break!
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Where has it proven it can get it to shelves?
Big Lots? Really? I could have made that happen through Wham. All you do is visit the website and fill out a form.
The product at the sporting good sports and the restaurant were samples given out by Dennis. No re-orders.
This is a share selling scam.
Big finance does its DD. Big finance just saw Rudy and Willie Gault get hammered by the SEC. Why would any smart investor throw money at another proven scam?
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LOL! Private equity investors sinking money into HFBG?
That's the most hilarious thing I've heard in a long time!
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By the way, his name is (Calvin Thornton), not Calvin Ross as SHG and JAG tried to establish!
Let's call him by his government name!
Yep. (Calvin V. Thornton).
Also known as Calvin Ross, Ishmail Ross, Thomas Love III, Aaron Joshua, Aaron Ross, etc.
No matter the name used, the common thread is that of a con man, thief, liar, etc.
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Many folks have seen this SCAM for what it is for a long time.
I, for example, have been sounding the SCAM alarm for well over a year, now.
It's always simply been a share selling SCAM run by Calvin Thornton.
Sure, he'll create a character like Thomas Love.
Or, put a new face on it like JAG.
But, Calvin's always pulling the strings.
When he's not doing that, he's busy researching new ways to present "short" arguments as the reason why the stock is on life support!
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Exactly! HFBG's reputation is particularly horrible at this point.
Are they foolish (or arrogant) enough to believe buyers would flock to HFBG after a R/S?
ReallY? No one would touch this crap with a 20 foot pole after that.
As you suggest, they need to try to salvage the reputation of the company, first, by demonstrating some type of tangible result and issuing a string of PRs. Then, they can make the case for the R/S as a means to continue the forward thrust of the company.
At this point, there are no results and the case for moving forward is not believable.
Just R/S'ing for the sake of it, followed by an immediate A/S increase, will be the ultimate deathblow.
And the SEC would drop the hammer shortly thereafter.
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Nope. But, they were associated with those scams and got caught by the SEC.
Larry Johnson is most definitely tied to the HFBG scam.
Remember this?
Looks like he's trying to figure out how to operate a computer in the pic! LOL!
and this
Tough for Larry Johnson to explain that last one! LOL!
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