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Because the patents are frivolous.
At this point, the patents have been worthless. SK Hynix offered $40M cash and $600M in product at wholesale pricing for resale. This resale of product has turned into a net loss because the SG&A expenses are more than the margin. This includes the cash from which Hong gave himself a raise, a $650K bonus and more stock grants.
The math doesn't lie. The $40M cash and the $600M in product for resale has resulted in a net loss. Unless, of course, you are Hong.
The math is simple. Hong has spent 100+ millions of OTHER PEOPLE’S MONEY to make sure “he gets his”. To the tune of $23M so far. The vast majority tucked away in his home ($10M) and an irrevocable trust. Both of those untouchable in a civil suit.
You are being played.
Can we get an updated chart from @stokd ?
As I said yesterday, delay. Most likely reason is Micron lawyer issues with plagiarism in unrelated matter. And no way the court could deny Micron the delay.
Incorrect. The courts would be bound to allow it once. A second time would have to be extreme circumstances. But a first delay for this reason would be granted by the courts.
It's pretty simple, suppose YOU were in a lawsuit? The day before trial, your lawyer is arrested for DUI. You don't want your lawyer anywhere near a courtroom. You would be asking for a delay.
Micron will get a delay due to lead lawyer being withdrawn due to plagiarism charge in an unrelated matter. You heard it here first. Will close down.
Haha, sure thing Costanza.
Your average is $6? Explains a lot.
It will be a slow death over the next 12 months, but let us all pay our respects to patent 10,268,608 (the '608 patent). R.I.P.
0 for 2. All claims unpatentable.
0 for 1. All claims unpatentable.
Netlist is a VERY risky buy. Netlist takes prior art and combines it and proclaims that is very unique and that no POSITA could possibly think to do it this way. Meanwhile, the CEO has sold millions of dollars of stock since 2021. Whenever you see the cart-before-the-horse like that, you should run.
First, the inconsistent information posted on various message boards about the $303M judgement needs to be addressed. One of the patents from that judgement was invalidated. Netlist has already conceded that part of the judgement back to the court. I believe it was worth around $25-30M. So, let's be honest and get that part of the story right.
As far as the FWD's coming next week, I believe you are in for a surprise. People on these boards fail to understand the level of corruption within the power structures of the US Government. Big Tech works hand in hand with the US Government and most importantly the military. There is tit-for-tat everywhere so far to the tune of $33T in US debt and rising.
Yes, facts. According to the SEC filings, Hong has sold $4M worth of stock in the last 4 years.
Yes, exactly!! Don't dictate!! Discussion, which includes opinion, is allowed. In my opinion, Netlist is a dead man walking. Form analyzing SEC filings, it appears the only winners are Gail and Hong.
I'd report you for the personal attack, but I see you are a moderator here as well. We will see how open you are to adding another moderator.
Maybe I should ask why you are here? It's a very strange board.
I don't need to read every court document. All that I need to do is to analyze the behavior of execs which includes the incessant "control" of stock message boards. The fact that open discussion is not allowed is a huge RED flag.
Again, NLST will be a dead stock just like HDVY. The question is will you be the one left holding the bag?
I hang out on other stock sites. Am I not allowed to hang out here as well?
The last stock I posted on was HDVY as I called it "dead" a couple years ago. And now it is dead.
NLST will suffer the same fate unless there is some miracle coming. You just haven't figured it out yet.
It would benefit Hong. Again, he is not going to pump it directly. It is backchannels.
Because Hong would pump that information to the sky (via leaking it out to the backchannels).
So why hasn't SK Hynix offered up to buy Netlist? Please forward to Tomkila/Deporte (or answer with whatever other account he/she/it uses here.
Intel continuing with their stance that HDVY's patent(s) fail the Alice tests and cannot be patented. And they are correct.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/intel-releases-open-source-ai-163000540.html
"Enterprises process and analyze millions of documents every year, and many of the semi-structured and unstructured documents are routed manually. AI can automate the processing and categorizing of these documents for faster routing and lower manual labor costs. Using a support vector classification (SVC) model, this kit was optimized with Intel® Distribution of Modin and Intel® Extension for Scikit-learn powered by oneAPI. These tools improve data pre-processing, training and inferencing times to be 46%, 96% and 60% faster, respectively, compared to stock implementation of Accenture Intelligent document indexing kit without Intel optimizations4 for reviewing and sorting the documents at 65% accuracy."
Sounds to me like Marty wanted to get paid in cash not promissory notes because he knows where this is headed. ( - insert loud toilet flushing sound - )
HDVY is dead. They lay in the hospital bed with a chance to survive until December 2021 when the plug was pulled. Now, it's like watching a fish gasp for breath.
Pure boredom.
"Citadel" is Latin for "stock go down".
Citadel will save you!! LOL It's a dead company. Last one here turn out the lights.
The first official ruling on these patents being actually patent eligible was given by Albright. They did not rule on the patent's eligibility back in the 2019 interference.
I don't agree with Albright, but per his ruling, the patents are worth $0.00.
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HDVY showing down a little bit over 25% today.
Citadel selling? Or they already sold? LOL
Citadel has $25 Billion under management. Taking a flier of $3-5M on a stock was worth the risk (0.02% of $$$) and they are not the only ones who thought it was worth the risk. It didn't work out. If it did work out, they were looking at 10-20X (or more) for their investment.
Companies like Citadel have losses. They can't all be winning picks.
"the 13G must be filed no more than 10 days...."
Except when they don't use the 10 days rule and use the 45 days rule. If they used the 10 days rule, why was the 13G not filed earlier?
Very doubtful Citadel owns a single share of HDVY anymore. Again, they took a flier on them in Q4 and dumped at the end of December when Albright made his ruling. They still had to report the 13G.
These are the games that are played. HDVY is dead.
As of today, I don't think Citadel owns a single share. I think they took a flier on HDVY back in early Q4 of 2021. It didn't work out.
The fact the SEC allows entities to file ownership forms so late is ridiculous. Citadel bought 22M shares. They had to file the form 13 that at one point during Q4 2021 they owned more than 5% stake. Nothing about this filing tells you if they still own it.
No, I don't need a loan at all from anyone. As a matter of fact, I have a Constitution which allows me Free Speech. Look it up. You might enjoy it.
As with all death spiral companies, there will be little information coming forward from here on. Any requests for info will be met with "confidentiality requirements" or vague responses.
No money. The powers that be ruled against them. Not the first time. Nor the last. Thought they had a chance (and perhaps they did), but it is all downhill from here. Bank on it.
Here's a question from that "Boomstick1776" poster on Yahoo MB that I find intriguing since the poster used to be very positive HDVY:
"Albright used the Stanford and SAP cases (post-2014) to support his decisions of the Alice Test. Did you guys find any case law supporting HDVY? Or are you counting on HDVY becoming a precedent setting case?"
IMHO, HDVY is dead.
The judge used case law rulings from 2014-present and the Alice Tests against those cases. In any cases from 2014, the Stanford and SAP cases he cited were the only ones he deemed similar to HDVY's case. In both cases, it did not favor HDVY.
If you can find a case that supports HDVY in that time frame, you may have an argument. Otherwise, you may have to narrow your scope so much that the infringement is essentially a nothing such as $10M. If you can find a case....
HDVY is dead. The patent is dead and unenforceable. Any refiling will be essentially a pump & dump for remaining holders to exit. What's sad is that folks will buy the pump when they do refile.