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so mr brown collected how many millions on the premise of x marks the spot because of the bible and his faith backed words, but its not going to end well with those who lost money up to the point the exploration was done the regular way...
that right there will have many unhappy campers that will bring legal trouble for the company.
granted investing is risky business, and no guarantees in it, but the bottom line is this company was a faith selling, bible directing enterprise from day 1, and if he finds oil this time, he might as run for the hills.
I recall he said something similar the last go around.
when you find nothing, you don't have anything to give.
as someone else has already stated, for a company that hasn't found anything yet, the stock is way beyond its real value.
Its another ness energy.
oil found elsewhere though.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-scotland-scotland-business-41552060
you forget to comment about zion drilling co.
another fabrication to pump up the investors.
and also that how many holes were drilled under the realm of josephs head that came up dry also? yet you mention rinberg gone and he is to blame? ummm this was all john browns idea. brown would have never let rinberg do this on his own call. you know better than to say that.
yet you say now that carillo is ceo, and there is a new outline to company.
last I heard glen perry came back as advisor, and carillo replaced rinberg. that's a complete change?
recall the white cloth that had oil on that last time around. people got all excited about that, yet in the end all they found was less than what you put in your car.
great summary... but all wishful thinking
you can IMHO or read another's words any way you want. but if they had found commercial quantity oil, they would have announced it already.
you can suppose they are waiting for 3rd party, or some other reason, but in the end, the longer they don't announce what they have, its a repeat of last time.
then, this was the last straw for zion. do or die.
the reason they don't announce is to continue to receive a paycheck.
talking prophetic?
how interesting that I watch these posts, where I was mentioning the prophetic, and getting slammed for it by the way, and now many posts are talking about something prophetic, or some faith based viewpoint.
and once again, john brown comes out with the hang in their speech. he might even send you a book by hal lindsey of end times faith.
but the bottom line, this is the same dance as the last go around. we were all pumped up, and then delay after delay came, and then after they strung us along, then the announcement. no oil was found.
for those who buy and sell constantly and can make money doing so, kudos to you.
but everyone has to remember that those who had the faith of investing in this, were simple people that bought in, and planned going long until the oil was found. they wouldn't invest and watch the charts for constant ups and downs.
the only thing is, after taking millions of dollars over all the years, john brown can speak of the devil hindering the company, or that past failures actually teaches things, but in the end, many people will lose their money. thats not anything anyone can take lightly.
when rinberg left, that was a huge sign. management taking a big chunk of people's money to just get paid, and announce they would drill again. only taking 3 years to get there. its nice to get a check, and leave others hanging.
oh yeah. remember that the company announced that they would create their own company called zion drilling? it never happened. another false announcement that sounded good for the time, but in the end, they didn't do it.
bottom line here folks. the prophetic has already said whats going to happen. and its not finding crude. its about advancing into a new realm of technology. recall I said that fossil fuels would end?
get ready to hear it...
the mark taylor prophecy says "new" energy
crude oil is as old as the dinosaurs. really quite old.
that prophecy in itself says that oil is over with.
there's your answer, and you just posted it in the public posting area of this company's website.
look at the outline after the hurricane. dallas texas was out of gas just yesterday for some.
isn't it wise to implement a new energy that is plentiful right here that the whole nation doesn't come to a halt due to refineries that were affected?
oil spills, carbon emissions, wildlife destruction.
but as long as people gain wealth it still comes just because of a texas preacher says its there.
we go from be a smart investor and do it the typical way of watching the highs and lows and make money accordingly, or you will get burned..
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zion is faith based.. many of us believed that early on. until time after time they found nothing.
and as for not letting just anybody drill.
as long as you can show you have the ability and the money to do it, any country would love for you to make an effort to find a resource on their land. and if you do, they will share the royalties with you.
it makes no difference who you are.
zion should have drilled in texas to have something going on prior to going to Israel, but instead they just figured they would just go for the big one.
for all the millions spent since the inception in 2000 is massive. for those who were told to keep the faith, and he we are 17 years later with nothing but wasted millions.
oh and lets recall that zion drilling company was to be created by promise by the very same faith company, only for it never to happen.
I bought in when the 2 quarts were discovered and was supposedly the big one. that was at 8 to 10 dollar sp.
had no choice to sell at loss due to heart surgery and bills.
I don't have any finances to throw at anything due to 200 grand in health matters.
so next time you think you know why, think before you speak.
most of the longs that gave early on wouldn't be in this room. they aren't major investment type people that look at the charts or all the other data you look at. they gave by faith and thats it. they wait for the number to be large. waiting for the news they hit the big one. nothing more. nothing less.
I have major interest in this...
its about all those faith investors that will be fleeced by the company on using the word of God to get their money.
any normal sec traded oil exploration company has actual revenue before they try to go for the big one. the shareholders have been paying the salaries of how many corporate folk all without any returns on their longs.
the pathetic part will be true. when zion comes up dry again. then its all over with.
considering where the world is in technology, the smartest thing zion could do is conform to new technology in that all the millions that have found nothing could have been spent toward the infrastructure of clean energy. not one penny would be a waste toward it. but we still want to drill in the dirt looking for something that is already stated to become short lived by the very own prophetic words that john brown wont receive from biblical realm.
and to do this in his own homeland where its needed and will be rewarded.
israel has the motherload of natural gas. they can use it to make hydrogen. they would have a new clean fuel to fuel all the cars they have. clean air, and no wasting millions to get it or make it.
well, well. now we see the regulars posting about john brown and his prayers and scriptures. this company is built on that premise. yet Im told a person will get burned by investing that way. you have no idea how many got in on this many years ago and simply bought whatever they could and are just sitting on going long until the final result. these people are devout christian believers who decided to agree with the faith based company's presentation. they believe that they can make big money on their investment. yet does it really say there is crude oil to be found in the bible? that argument has gone on for over 10 years on what is really said.
yet since they have not found more than 2 quarts of oil in multiple attempts, this is down to drilling into a gusher, or its all over with. they call it an exploratory well, but they have barely drilled 1/3 the way to 15000 feet, and many believe they will have to go deeper than that.
they have no choice but to drill on until the drill breaks, the money runs out, or they strike direct oil.
and remember, the sudden departure of one Richard Rinberg?
we were told it was a mutual thing. hogwash. nobody in their right mind would leave such a find that would be so huge they could be part of history.
he knew what the results would be...
I recall the last time they mentioned they found oil, and the stock went nuts. yet it was about 2 quarts worth. so before they mention finding a dirty rag, they better know exactly what they have. zion knows full well who lost how much on the last fallout of finding nothing in commercial quantity.
and if there is any announcement on finality, it will come on a friday without any doubt.
and the 7th dry hole in 5777.
oil find mentioned? that was a disservice to all those who purchased zion oil on faith, that they found oil. about 2 quarts worth. if saying that in a press release spikes the sp, then trading should be halted permanently. people have to remember that this stock was pushed by john brown to those of the faith to take part in blessing Israel. and that a certain portion would be donated to charity. I realize that people will invest in the ups and downs to make money. I have no problem with that at all, but when the CEO makes claim to something that connects to God and the bible, this is very dangerous territory to be in. Hayseed Stephens found that out when he didn't fuse the 2 ness entities together as was told to. he had so much time to do it, but didn't. he dropped dead in his yard. so crucify me for even mentioning it, but this stock only exists because of the faith realm that it was presented to. only 1 in 9 holes ever leads to a commercial quantity oil find. when this hole comes up dry as the prophets already stated that we are leaving fossil fuels quickly, the final announcement will end this whole realm of connecting it to the bible.
look at this article. the handwriting is on the wall....
http://www.destinyencounters.com/uncategorized/prophetic-word-on-new-energy-coming-to-pass/
the replacement fuel outside of the total electric realm will be hydrogen electric. or the need of H2. total zero emissions, and gets us away from the opec stranglehold.
a new company based in los angeles is just starting up. its called hygen.
and yet another article about the future of energy...
http://www.wanttoknow.info/newenergysources.shtml
as was mentioned before, there was prophesied a new form of solar energy that uses a pyramid type of structure that allows the spectrum to pass through it and it separates them and transforms it all into electricity. if anyone has seen the movie wonder woman recently out, you can see this structure already standing in front of the louvre in paris france. the days of big oil and the disasters it causes will soon be over. clean energy will be on the scene quickly.
so make your money on the highs and lows of crude energy, but if people want to get beyond that, start planning on investing in H2 and the new solar when it hits.
he already knows.
NOTHING...
the journey was 11 days that became 40 years.
hard to compare seeing giants in the land, to x marks the spot...
you don't even know me, and your throwing names as negative.
there has been nobody on this board investing in oil in Israel longer than myself.
ness energy will make a comeback before zion hits anything.
the prophets have already said that fossil fuels will dissolve quickly.
why would the man upstairs have zion find anything if His prophets have declared oil is on the outward?
sure, make your money on the ups and downs, but zion is another ness energy.
throwing bible scriptures of oil at believers to lure them to invest their money.
these are people that buy and sit without any thought of selling until the big one.
but as it was with ness, the owner and ceo fleeced the flocked and was taken away.
the management at zion has lived off of the shareholders money for many years without finding nothing but an amount that wouldn't fit in your car.
as the previous posts said. zion will be zero and it will be over with. then the words of the prophets will be verified.
the prophets have already spoken
but nobody is listening.
its his retirement pension. once the drill breaks, its over with.
I concur Garrett. its all or nothing.
they won't need to ask for more money. they either hit and get what they need, or its all over with.
considering the whole ness energy story, I say zion takes the place in the cellar with ness.
for some chump change, I can buy ness and transform it into a future energy company. if boyce would sell it. but he still has the dream of Israel oil. its dead, just like the dead sea.
as was mentioned before...
the givot board fired the founder of the company.
also, after they found the oil, they lost pressure is the last word I found.
and as far as their trading price or any info, I find the same thing. a mystery on the last 2 years with nothing to find.
if Israel was to find oil in the whole outline as many believe, then why is the oil find basically dead?
its a sign folks. the prophetic realm is spot on where its time to upgrade to future technology.
if it isn't electric, its hydrogen fuel cells. for the time being, the natural gas find at leviathan can be used to heat the process to make hydrogen.
Israel already has the motherload of natural gas in the med. they only need to use it to make hydrogen.
the infrastructure only needs to adapt to the new realm.
if zion doesn't, another contractor can....?
for those who have been around the oil in Israel realm for as long as I have, you will recall of an Israeli company called givot olam. they already found the oil. years ago. to the point of expanding their find and drilling 6 more wells.
so where is the hype after all that? and the press releases for last 2 years are a mystery. they found oil, yet its quiet..
now we see many asking for press releases to jack up the sp for this company. yet they haven't found anything in how many tries. not to forget that the people of the faith/prophets have now spoken that crude oil dependance is soon to be history.
how can someone say after how many years of failed attempts that they are still on target, and after givot hasn't broken everything open, and the prophets say we're going away from it?
yes, buy low sell high on any stock. but this one was different from the start on how it was to happen.
did john brown ever meet the joseph he foretold about?
the only announcement zion will have is....
sorry, but no commercial quantity crude has been found.
thank you for your money. we will now sit on the leftover money to pay our salaries for a few years.
this will be zion's last hoorah.
they blew it when they didn't do something in the states to have any kind of revenue. its called greed.
you want to know why?
the reason it went that high was a simple comment that a small amount of crude was found during swabbing. an amount to fill about 2 small bottles. just because of that, many thought that the motherload was about to be discovered. but that wasn't the case.
this is taken directly from the zion oil website in the history portion.
https://www.zionoil.com/updates/information-hub/history/
2009 Zion’s Ma’anit-Rehoboth #2 well, on the Joseph License, was drilled to a depth of 17,913 feet. After drilling, during swabbing operations, a small quantity of crude oil was retrieved.
In June, Zion was awarded a preliminary petroleum exploration permit (the ‘Issachar-Zebulun’) on approximately 165,000 acres. Zion also completed a stock rights offering and raised $21 million.
In September, Zion switched the listing of its common stock to the NASDAQ. The trading symbol ZN remained unchanged.
In October, Zion spudded the Elijah #3 well in the Asher-Menashe License Area.
In December, Zion completed a second stock rights offering and raised an additional $18 million.
so all someone has to do to get investors excited, is say they found some kind of oil. a few drops, or whatever and they send it to the moon. its called pumping. then the insiders knowing its not commercial quantity, dump their shares. they make money, and the longs lose all theirs where they bought in right at the point of excitement, and couldn't sell for a profit when the bad news came. your reading from one who was in that realm.
finally move? ummm. it moved to 14 bucks a few years ago when the hype of finding oil pumped it up, but we know where that went after the bad news came. down the drain to dollarville. you guys may buy and sell a few times, but the longs that were here years ago are waiting for the motherload. its not gonna happen.
they haven't found enough oil to put in your car in 6 tries...
all time high? ummm it hit 14.65 back on feb 1 of 2009
the last time they actually drilled along with the hype. the same hype on this board.
by may 1st 2009, it was down to 8.78
jan 1st of 2010 down to 5.05
sept 1st of 2011 down to 1.96
Between 2005 and 2014 Zion has launched a total of six drilling operations, the last one concluding in January 2014. None of them successful.
you are very smart insp70.
if you had the seer ability to know the high and could sell it to others, thats all anyone will profit from.
it will be a blood bath...
prophet charlie shamp through elijah list...
"Get Ready For A System Reboot!"
We will see specific breakthroughs in the coming days with different forms of energy. Energy has always been a great concern for many, and for decades there has been an iron fist controlling technology from being released that would free the earth from an oil-based energy system. But the Lord revealed to me that in the not-too-distant future there will be no difference between waste and energy. In fact, right now there are nations on the verge of breakthroughs in energy that will cause Babylon to be bankrupt overnight. It will be a shock to many when it comes, but it is already in the works. The tide is changing, and I see new ways and waves of energy coming to the shores of many nations. Mark my words, the planet will not run on oil forever. That system is running out of time!
http://www.elijahlist.com/words/display_word.html?ID=13465
this is a carbon copy of what happened last time...
the stock didn't budge until there was proof of a rig on site.
now that they reached 1st casing, the sp goes up.
by the time they drill deeper and case more, the price will probably reach 8-10 bucks.
just at the same point where I bought in last time. then the bad news came.
down she went to a buck a share and sat there for a long time.
all the hype posts in this board were seen before.
same thoughts, same desires.
those who are here to go long, you better sell out at 10 if it gets there, and hope someone is gullible enough to buy in.
they will never find it before getting to 22,000 feet. 15,000 will not do it.
If you really want to know...
I will not deny bitterness. Im guilty
I got in believing zion was gonna hit and I could get out of debt.
Been to ICU 4 times for heart issues.
after zion came up dry, I had no choice but to sell at a loss because I needed to pay bills. and keep from being evicted. so Im sure its evident why Im negative on this deal.
so yes, the rule goes don't invest any money you can't lose, but on the other hand, for what have believed was a sure thing, thats why I don't believe zion will find a thing. they would have by now if they were meant to...
viable company? thats a laugh...
may I remind everyone that zion told us (the last group of investors to believe the bible hype) that they were setting up zion drilling.
it never happened... lies
theres your viable company..
oh yeah, where did rinberg go?
do you think anyone would leave if this was what you think it is?
sorry folks, you are the next batch to lose your money.
I was just like you Kid gloves
I believed the same things. so I bought in at 8-10 a share thinking it was about to erupt.
and then they announced no oil
it tanked to a buck a share
lost 20 grand.
finding oil in 1 0f 9 attempts is costly. how many times has zion drilled? like 5?
still no oil.
the motherload came when they found the natural gas in levithan.
they dont need any crude when they have all that gas to make hydrogen fuel.
if I was smart, I would short this stock...
would have made a fortune on last go around
so why do people believe that crude will be found either?
here's a repeat of people losing money.
the excitement has the sp going up. yet they are only to first casing depth.
if anything is to be found, they will have to go to 25000 feet.
but this will all end up finding nothing since the prophetic words declare future fuel is here to stay.
get ready for all those who invest when it goes up higher thinking its about to gush, only to be told no commercial quantity found.
then you can write off your losses for next umpteen years.
this will be the end of zion oil. there will be nobody else willing to lose anymore money that hasn't been involved from any prior time.
for the few posting...
you are what we were in the past. anticipating finding oil.
but it never happened. any stock price increase is just due to that same anticipation when people know there's actual drilling going on.
but I hate to burst your bubble. there won't be any commercial quantity oil found.
makes for a good soap opera.
all the articles that a company can bring out. how difficult it is to drill.
how about the one where they wrote a press release on zion drilling. we know that was a lie.
the main issue is the company doesn't have revenue at home in america to back their efforts elsewhere. instead of going for motherload, the need to have structure elsewhere. but they don't. all they have is someone using the bible to con people into finding something they won't ever find.
because if they believe in the bible, they MUST believe in the prophets of today that speak for God.
and he is saying we are moving into a new realm of technology. we are moving away from fossil fuels. yet zion continues to take a salary from numerous people over their supposed understanding of scriptures and X marks the spot because of the head is here. if it were true, the last time they drilled, many were told that because of a so called boundary, they would find oil there. but they found nothing. just like the result will be this time. I used to back this company when others were bashing it. now I know why they were.
you may be better off watching what happens on "as the world turns" or "days of our lives" than wasting your hope on something that clearly isn't meant to be....
the new solar energy from a pyramid spectrum and the realm of using that electricity on transportation is what investors need to look for. I asked God to give me the blueprints for what He has given will happen. then pair it up with a dysfunctional ness energy, and it will be worth billions.
10 dollars a share. why? all HYPE !!!
look at the stock history. from day one, there has been no find of commercial quantity crude. yet a bunch of investors kept posting things just like you are along with hopeful reports from the company, which drove the price to 10 bucks a share. yet with all the hot air of finding oil, it never was.
to the person who recently posted saying there was a find by someone, I ask you to show this by written proof. if you are referring to the natural gas find at leviathan, this was not inland crude oil as both zion and ness have tried to say there was.
let me remind everyone from the last class of those believing there was oil going to be found. that zion oil told its shareholders they were buying their own rig and setting up a subsidiary company within zion inc. called zion drilling. IT NEVER HAPPENED.
and then theres the resignation of richard rinberg the long time CEO. oh we were told it was a mutual departure, but thats what companies always say so there is no backlash on the stock price in a negative way. yet we were told for how many years that drilling would continue, and to have it just happen now.
this is being done all wrong. for some christian wildcatter to go into Israel, and say they can find oil, and use the bible to lay out some map and say this is the head area and then setup a lease. all the while the company has no revenue to speak of from any past american job that found something.
so this company runs on hype alone.
kinda stupid when the management lives off of all the money that investors that are willing to go along with and tell them they are going to create zion drilling, but never do. thats called lying.
considering one in 9 attempts at drilling are successful, and that each attempt is 20 million plus dollars, it only makes sense to invest in future technologies.
just as the guy says in the movie twister..."the days of digging in the dirt are over"...
independent study. lets hope...
I recall hearing this a number of times. guess where it ended up?
I'll give you all a heads up on a prophetic word that was recently revealed.
its about the new way electricity will be attained. its not the typical solar either.
its a pyramid that had glass type plates on it. it will divide all the rays of the sun accordingly, and it will power cities. also because the way to make hydrogen fuel for the newer technology cars coming, that heat has to be applied and then it has to cool. natural gas is the way its done now, but by using the new solar pyramid to drive the heating process, we have all the fuel we need from water and the sun.
so you can say goodbye to crude oil. anything that we import has to be ended. the economics of it all is first, and not that Im a tree hugger by definition, but getting away from stinky diesel and all fossil fuels only makes the air better to breathe.
all exploration of crude oil is for nill.
if you ever reach break even in the SP, sell it all.
this comes from someone who had same feelings about this hitting like 5 years ago, when we were told all the same things. report says this or that. zero crude found.
jed clampett has better chance of finding it.
should be above 3$ ?
thats hilarious, considering the last wave of hype that came with all the biblical reasons of oil, that without one drop of commercial quantity of crude oil found, the price made it to 10 bucks. after telling everyone that got in thinking it was about to take off, and that they found nothing, the price tanked and never recovered. this is when I got in, and have been writing my losses off for years.
so what you think things should be, is a far cry from what the last round of faithful believers have gone through.
considering now that prophetic words say that we will get away from fossil fuels, the continuing barage of rights offerings will lead to nothing other than more losses.
but this attempt at drilling will be the last, since there will be no more investors in the biblical tell all story of zion oil.
it won't be long before the bad news on of a lack of commercial quantity oil won't be found.
at least the management kept drawing a salary on the wallets of those that were led astray on this charade.
let zion explain how they told us they were creating their own zion drilling company, and acquiring a rig..
it never happened. all lies.