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Regarding oil.
There will NEVER be to much. Caloric value is king.
Do you have a issue to avoid saying that that AS is to prevent hostile take over for a meager + 100% ?
So after your meeting with (plural) very important old officials you decided that 6 years ago you made a wise decision alas 6,3 years to soon.
Also you are telling us now that all you doubts have vanished with a nice pat on the back (demeanor) by KK (You substantialy increased your position)
Brilliant, and thanks for the cheap shares.
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It is obvious in the way ICM is maneuvering, that their diversification from gaining money on direct oil extraction, to the after GERS residue recovery method, is disputable.
A short Christian holiday and look what mess you make, tsk tsk tsk
Suppose nobody minds I don't read backwards?
Lot's of posts probably some disappointed? Q to Q drooling is no fun.
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Any chance you would know why I picked CVM as an example?
You are doing a awesome job Slashnuts, kuddos EOM
It's always accounted. Not always visible.
Just remember OTC = Over The Counter
Means if you call KK and want to invest let's say $ 1.000.000 for a 10% discount and 1 year lock up, you would be facilitated.
"I think a lot of them are having to buy the shares because the pps is putting up a heck of a fight staying where it is."
Then why would you in heavens name buy back? And on top off that incur extra trading cost to resell again? and then again sell shares to cover? huh?
(profitable short positions generates interest income besides the trading profit and extra trading margin)
"So then once they have bought the shares they take another short posistion and try to sell their shares cheap to try to cover their new position"
let me get this clear.
1) existing profitable short position is closed
2) sell again, thus creating new short position
3) sell again to cover?
That's a whole lot of noise you make for $ 600
hihi
So basically you are saying that price should only go up in the stock market? Would people in your model be allowed to sell stocks?
The man and woman who work for a company who's shares have been shorted should work harder, get less pay or be fired if economic reality demands it. The valuation of their company is a reflection of it's ability to earn money.
You see KODAK a company that refuses to adapt to the market, should I stay awake at night if I make a honest buck by shorting the living daylight out of them? They should have sleepless night because of their inability to earn money with the money that stock holders invested in them.
Total, if I buy through my Swiss account then my numbers will be added to the UBS total trading share. Part of my commission goes to that ECN. If I trade trough IB then my orders are mostly routed trough NITE, AUTO and HDSN whichever has the best bid or ask at that instant second. That's "their" volume and thus their commission.
Take note every time I buy, MM sells something he doesn't own, when I sell MM creates a position he doesn't want. MM do NOT keep inventory. MM is middleman, market maker, facilitator of liquidity. Market maker per definition takes the opposite side of the trade or he couples the trade to an simultaneous matching opposing trade.
With a falling share price you would be stupid to cover your short.
I advice you to create a fake account with Think Or Swim (TOS) and practice some short sales and their managed development trough time.
Gripzool, proud owner of a short position on CVM and the same time proud owner of a gazillion shares in CVM Normally you would hedge with options alas those are not yet available.
OK gazillion is bit overdone, drove my wife nuts buying her stock and then selling more then I had 2 days later. People like you is what kills the stock market, snicker. Silently repurchased more then I sold last week, still have to close the short.
Just don't give a hoot if GERS is $1.25 or $1.56 after dilution.
Especially not if I have to look at the tape. Have more ways to make money then watching a screen.
No answer given by you.
I could not care less if they DUMP DILUTION shares 1 million or 10.000 shares, but you keep counting and watching the tape boy.
You did not answer my question whom were changing their point of view.
We can add another question.
"The extent to which ICM is willing to go in this regard is one of the reasons I have backed away from further averaging down at this time. This is an example of changing strategy based on new information/events and the value of viewing GERS objectively. Others should try it."
So you first bought shares thinking ICM were a lovely bunch off people. Now YOU changed mind, how come that is objectivity? Seems like just a bad investment strategy.
What is objective is the undervaluation of GERS
Feel free to discuss whether it's undervalued with factor 20 or 5
Nobody please help me out;
"Finally, people are starting to catch on with the reality here. Several posts in the last 10 or so are indicating that they are seeing the light."
Please tell us in which of those last 10 posts you mention are finally seeing the light?
These are those last ten posters:
Vineyardstock
Totaltruth
Cropdoc
Small_bull
Tadaa
Jimm x 3
Slashnuts
Gripzool
I would firmly assume, that YAGI has some top notch whizkid pouring over GERS filings and if they don't understand (haha) they would call KK in person.
Per definition YAGI is much closer on the ball then we are, for example they KNOW the exact dilution rate/demand quotation
It would be virtually impossible for YAGI to flip from 0.1% to 4.99% in order to profit from inside knowledge. What YAGI does however is to keep exceptional exuberance smothered with their overhang. That is good, like I told before we don't want a share price of 1 cent based on 10 share buys. That would be a card house.
TIMBERRRRR watch out below, cheaper shares coming!
BOOK a 10 bagger sell now! After summer 0.003 $ SELL SELL
SELL SELL SELL NOW!
Nobody gives guarantee on cheaper shares in the future
Neil,
the people that founded YAGI and hired their employees are really stupid?
No? Why do you assume so then?
With a dropping share price, wouldn't it be a tad more likely that they are not at maximum allowable?
Note: I am not saying this way or that, just giving a different view.
What a child.
7 billion people in the world, 20 on Ihub "few want to blabla"
6.5 billion people told you 4 years ago that you didn't acknowledge what was going on, now you go "nah nah nah"
Childish.
Why did you not warn us for this dasister?
1 billion in revenue x 0.1 % profit margin = bankrupt
Ah but Sunoco is not restructuring away it's corn oil/ ethanol division
thanks answer
In that same post, was a calculation how ICM made billions that was not correct. Turn over is not profit, so ICM will go bankrupt. But as evidence is already on the table that ICM is restructuring ....
Ahum, you might want to rephrase that again.
Watch, in about 3 months time it will be turned around.
Then a message like "I told you already a long time ago that the shorters don't wear rose colored glasses" or something like that.....
If it isn't done on a whim. it doesn't happen.
Ostrich
Take note I'm not saying it happens, just stating that your information is FALSE
You should really do something with that wide gap between your perception and the truth my dear nobody.
OTC = OVER THE COUNTER any what that means dear chap?
"I have received authoritative statements" snicker, gniff, whoehaa
Short selling is an effective trading strategy that can be employed to hedge the risk of a loss on an off-setting position or to speculate on an equity's price movement. In essence, short selling entails selling a stock that you do not own. An investor does this by borrowing the stock and immediately selling it in the market. If the price of the stock goes down, the investor makes a profit by purchasing the shares and delivering them to the individual from which they initially borrowed them. The profit arises from the difference between the stock's price at the time it was borrowed and the price at which it was subsequently purchased.
In regards to pink sheet and over-the-counter (OTC) listed securities, short selling is allowed. An OTC security is one that is not traded on a formal exchange such as the New York Stock Exchange or the American Stock Exchange. OTC securities are often quoted on the OTC Bulletin Board (OTCBB). Pink sheet securities are very similar to OTC securities in that they are not listed on exchanges, but are quoted on a daily publication issued by the National Quotation Bureau. However, pink sheet securities carry much more risk because they do not require the companies to register with the SEC or stay current in their financial statements.
Although short selling is allowed on these securities, it is not without its problems. Short selling on OTC is extremely risky because these securities are often very thinly traded, which makes them very illiquid. This illiquidity can prove hazardous if an investor needs to cover an increasingly unprofitable short position. If the volume is very low, covering the position may become a very unlikely prospect. Another problem that has arisen with short selling in OTC securities is the use of pump and dump schemes. These schemes are done by con artists who use internet message boards and SPAM emails to heavily promote a thinly traded stock in which they have long positions. When this happens, the result is often a high spike in the price of the stock, followed by a fall. However, the initial spike will devastate any investor with a short position. These schemes often use OTC stocks because they are relatively unknown when compared to exchange traded stocks.
Read more: http://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/06/otcpinksheetshortselling.asp#ixzz1sajZ0cD5
Insurance is only possible with a "risk"
It is really expensive to insure 1+1=2 you might try Lloyd. See if there is a name that will take the risk.....
Hilarious
If you want you can stop your quest,
The business model of these newsletters/stockpromoters/websites/etc
includes rehashing just released news add some tickers and then it just looks like they wrote an article or have something to say.
So for many off these sites the day after you will find actually a big heap of nothing.
My first fills, were buys based on fundamental research.
Fundament is getting better every quarter.
Based on those quarters filed with the SEC, I still stand by my decision.
After that I could wander, price-traumatize, regret, believe, hope, think, worry, inquire, have substantial issues, PPS-obsession, but I don't. No sleepless nights and endless message boards for me for me, 3 holidays a year, wife and kids, houses and cars, pension.
So; No, why inquire if I'm already convinced? The rest is a fools game.
Yagi 5% is a heck off a lot of shares, they might keep it at 4%, 0.00005%, 1% or 5%, again totally useless as documented experience.
You could off course comb through Yagi sec files to try to find something, but that wouldn't tell you what they intend.
today will be very informative
pps goes up or down, hell it might even be the same.
If, if and if then might, should, could and suppose.
Believe, dilution, falling and declines.
Poo poo, man that's really terrifying...
as GERS would say; it is "moot"
That trade was pre-manufactured and part of a bigger trade, as are many others the last days.
So someone offered to converse or someone made an offer for a substantial amount of shares at a discounted 20 days price blabla
Got some pretty erratic fills not good for my trade costs.
BTW see that nobody is on a roll again with his self proclaimed greatness I wonder if he is buying shares ? It doesn't matter what you predict if you cant act accordingly. Himself said that every post was directed to the gathering of information to be able to make informed decisions.
Did you make any decisions Nobody, or are just happy with farting ultimate wisdom?
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P.S. forget the silly .1 rule that was dragged in by the hairs.