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Someone having cash and understanding what additional capital and reduced debt could do to our multiple, for the moment crippelled by debt and limited production facilities.
I wrote to Gerry Miller wanting to know if he was still on Leon's BOD and he confirmed he was.
Leon then wrote to me asking why I did ask and he offered me to call him to discuss whatever I wanted.
I answered him I did not need to and thank him for the offer saying I will call him wheneve I feel it appropriate .
Up to now, I wait for official communications coming to all of us shareholders and will judge on the results not on off line private discussions I very well can imagine the content I would get.
I respect Leon, think he is trying but ... I wait for accomplisments and not just on current wishful plans or dreams.
I did put my bet, the wheel is still turning and I wait for the ball to stop to figure out where I stand.
Personally I always believed that Leon was building a business adressing a huge market but also knew he was doing thru a small and limited facility.
He demonstrated he was able to operate in a relatively interesting financial gross revenue environment and now he must increase is facilies.
Getting capital to address the debt and increase the facilities is the target.
Private investments and government fundings are the 2 potential sources of capital and I assume Leon understands that as well as any.
If he succeed getting capital, we are going to seriously profit.
If he does not, we will lose our bet.
That's why I keep saying that GRST is actually a bet and not an investment.
If you consider what Leon did during the last 3 year (get licences, build a team, generate as much revenues as he can within current facilities, ... ) he created a business offering services addressing a huge lucrative business.
THE ISSUE is now the debt and the required capital to grow the business.
The opportunity is the extremely low multiplier behind our market cap (more or less 0,2 or 20% of current annual revenues)
I believe this Thanks is somewhat prematured.
My problem with this xpectation is that NORMALLY, before a CEO makes a formal presentation to a public organisation, he issues a press release covering what he will talk about during his presentation so his shareholders know it also.
This being said, we shareholders are now use to not be inform of any development, achievments or plans except for mandatory quaterly fillings.
With all due respect, I personally do not miss that presumtuous imbecile and tought he had been thrown out of our board.
Fully agree but the market needs to know how Leon plans to get rid of our debt which is the boat anchor keeping down our market value. Obviously, the market still has a hard time to even believe Leon can di it ...
I was not missing your usual garbage and tought you had been barred from posting herein.
For months, our pps goes down each time our CEO PROUDLY (???) announced that we can put inventory on more shells. She doesn't want or she cannot figure out what the solution is. She behaves as a financial kamikaze. What's wrong wit her ?????????????????
Not trying to ''Teach An Old Monkey How To Make Funny Faces''' (???) just gave my opinion addressing your statement: 'Supporting" a "Good Cause".
Questions@EmergingGrowth.com
I somehow cannot reach this address (security risk ???).
I would like to submit the following question relative to Leon's presentation of Ethema-Health-Corp:
'' CONSIDERING THE SCOPE OF THE DEBT THE COMPANY HAS, HOW DO YOU INTEND TO GROW THE CURRENT BUSINESS AND HOW TO YOU INTEND TO PROCEED TO GET THE CAPITAL REQUIRED TO DO SO ?
If anyone can access: ''Questions@EmergingGrowth.com'' I would appreciate you to submit the question for me. Thanks
To be honest however, I am not supporting a CAUSE i donated to (even a great one) but did invest in a business I believe has growth potential in a huge market.
As for the conference, i assume that Leon
- will outline that he operates in a huge market and
- has up to now started cleaned up the horrible financials he had to start with
- outline how he intends to address his debt issue
- finance and grow his operation.
I hope he will not try to impress his attendance describing the market he operates within. Everybody knows how desastrous the situation is in the ''behavioral healthcare space, specifically in the treatment of substance use disorders''. His presentation doesn't need to spend a lot of time in this.
The conference Leon will present within companies is interested to hear about Leon's management team, services he currently offers but PARTICULARLY hear about HIS STRATEGY relative to our overall potential for long-term growth.
There we go ... Additional products and additional shelves. No word relative to informing parents of what we offer.
This confirm the our CEO is only a product development manager and someone believing that having boxes sitting on shelves will automatically generate revenues. She obviously have no understanding whatsoever of the value of marketing and her board even is made of a bunch of directors having the same scientific backgound as hers.
After 2 years of adding products and shelves and all along, seeing her business growth remain negligeale (to be polite) and the market value of her company fall lower and lower, how come she didn't yet figure out that she is missing something critical to her strategy?
The woman is obviously intelligent (product development) but she also is TOTALLY INCOMPETENT relative to what else is needed to grow her company. She obviously needs help but is to stubborn to accept it ... May be she tought her ex-employer was to marketing oriented and decided that Marketing is a useless art. At least, her behavior proves she doesn't understand the value of marketing.
I wish you and Leon the best ... very selfishly ... I however never fall in love with any of my stocks or whatever and whoever are behind them. I believe Leon to be an honest man having a serious challenge and trying to succeed. Let's see if he makes it or not but for sure, he needs a major infusion of capital.
I would like to be as positive as you are but Leon will have to soon make and explain some kind of strategic move. Tactically, the closing of the deal is a great news but itonly repair damages created over the past years. Leon must now figure out a way to expand our facilities and reduce instead of repakaging our debt.
I am still considering our stocks to be a bet instead of an investment.
A market value of plus or minus $1,200,000 for a company generating more than $7,000,000 in a year is ridiculous. The only explanation is the huge debt we carry and the apparent impossibility to grow the business within current facility.
On the positive side, Leon did a lot during the last 3 years or so (licences, facilities, revenues, ...) and I believe he thinks he has a plan but he obviouly and rightfully doen't discuss it in the open, more likely not yet able to confirm he can exedute his plan.
Let's see what he says (or not) at the conference but I as many, do not think he will be able to do more than describe his achievements up to now. I very much doubt he will define any major development to be made shortly. At least, I hope he will be able to somewhat reassure his shareholders by justifying their patience.
Do I look at it the wrong way or is that a faisible scenario?
1- Leon and/or ''someone else'' does acquire the remaining 6,000,000,000 A/S for $10,000,000 cash with the UNIQUE INTENT TO PAY ALL DEBTS and invest somewhat in our facilities.
2- Leon and/or the ''someone else'' would then own shares they paid $0.0017 before the R/S (A clause should freeze these shares for 2 years)
3- Leon thereafter would do a 1 for 50 R/S resulting into a 200,000,000 O/S (and still 10,000,000,000 A/S)
- Considering an immediate annual revenue's expectation of $8,000,000 or so, what then could a realistic market cap become instantly?
- Wouldn't then a multiple of 5 be quite conservative?
- After all GRST would be in a great financial shape with no more debts.
- If so, the market cap could become $40,000,000 (5 X $ 8,000,000).
- On the basis of 200,000,000 new O/S that would mean a pps of $0,20/sh.
By the way the 'Leon and/or the ''someone else'' investment would make him or them :
- Owners of (6,000,000,000 / 50) 120,000,000 shares they effectively would have paid ($ 0,0017 X 50) $ 0.085 ($ 10,000,000)
- These 120,000,000 new shares would now be worth $ 0,20 each. (120,000,000 X $ 0,20) or $ 24,000,000
- That would mean $ 24,000,000 worth of shares paid $ 10,000,000 .... (240% return)
- That could mean even more if within 2 years, Leon was to expand our facilities and grow our evenues (Almost unlimited market to tap)
- Better even if a government funding became available ???
Is finding $ 10,000,000 investment nowadays that difficult to find, IF THE ABOVE IS RIGHT ???
Our CEO doesn't even understand that. She was smart enough to developp a great product but remain stupid enough to keep it the best kept secret. in the industry. She is happy to have zillion of shelves to place her inventory of boxes sitting by the boxes of the reputed industry competitors but customers do not have a clue what these $50 boxes even contain ???
For those understanding what the ''PETER'S PRINCIPLE'' was all about (reaching your level of incompetence), our CEO is the perfect example of it.
Stubborness and exagerated pride will kill this outfit (and our investments) because our CEO is not smart enough to understand that we are not in the business of filling shelves.
What an unfortunate mess!
I'm also looking forward for his presentation but I have seen to many of my expectations become deceptions. My shares are a bet but UP TO NOW at least, The dices or cards were not those I was looking for.
1- I may be wrong but I only see one outcome possible and it's the arrival of major fundings thru an Investor believing enough in the company and Leon to buy 5,000,000,000 shares at $0,0012 or the federal government including GRST into its funding plans fighting the desease we work on.
2- I wiil look, assuming new funds to come, at what the money will be used for, increasing our facilities and/or reducing the debt.
I do not see what Leon can say other than that and if he does, I will most likely have to assume that the presentation will be another ''news'' without follow up.
Let's see where we stand in a week from now ???
May I hope sooner than later. I'm 82 and wonder if I will see the outcome before I go for good (LOL)
I am wondering if Mr Leon will be able to find funding to reduce the debt or expand the operation. Right now the debt is the boat anchor keeping our multiplier at around 0,2 and our revenues limited by our capacity to expand our facilities.
I hope Mr Leon will address how he expect that issue to be reslve over time? New large investment such as 5,000,000,000 new shares at 0,0012 ??? Government support in view of expanding our facilities ??? or ... ???
I hope he will address the issue of production of additional services or financing otherwise I wonder what else could justify the presentation planned for next week?
Leon says nothing (for the best or the worst), the stock is close to worthless, the company is operating and duly reporting. and dilution has been inexistant for 1+ year. That being said we have no clue what Leon does and/or works on ... or not but much of the debate herein is as if the topic was an ''INVESTMENT'' instead of an outright ''GAMBLE''.
The very large portion of the herein messages are about desperation, hope or even dreams.
FACT: This sub-sub-sub-penny-stock is a bet and the outcome will endup being a write-off or a great maney maker. Only Leon could give us odds relative to these potential outcomes but for now, he keeps silent.
The content of all the messages herein saying that ''Leon is a crook'', ''Leon is on a social mission'', ''Leon is a gineous in the makig'' or similar cnclusions or wishes are pure entertanment for those holding shares (whatever their net costs) or toy for stupid posters fully involved in posting in here without having shares.
Most posters herein are honest but some have biases of there on.
Only one poster was obviously motivated by hidden motivation but it seems that he finally has been silenced from our board, now executing a mandate aimed at destroying another stock (BlackStar Enterprise Group Inc - BEGI) ... 0 posts YTD as of noon today (LOL) ...
Would definitely be useful if we had let consumers know we existed and what we do offer. In current contex, people will go to another supplier offering a similar product. Very doubtful they will think : ''May as well trying a product we know nothing about''.
The company was founded by Hamutal Yitzhak on July 18, 2011. Since then our CEO keeps rolling out products and adding shelves.
Bottom line here is her record after 12 years:
Revenues 2022 : $ 8,530,000
Revenues 2023 : (including guidance for the fourth quarter of 2023 of $2.7 million to $3.0 million for the fourth quarter … IF ONE WANTS TO BELIEVE IT): $ 10.000,000
Net loss 2022 : $ 17,610,000 (total
Net loss last 4 quarters (including Q4 2022) : $ 15,900,000
Market value end of 2023 : + or - $25,000,000
PPS variation in 2023 : High of $ 1,14 Low of $ 0.18
Why in the world doesn’t that woman fire herself as the CEO considering she obviously has no clue relative to what running a business is all about. She should hire a competent CEO who would rebuild his BOD and keep herself the role of R&D Vice-president (a job she seems to be good at).
This being said, she will not do any of that because she does control the company and is stupid enough to dream of a great future if she keep playing a role she doesn’t understand anyhow.
Created 10 years ago but still appropriate ...
https://drive.google.com/file/d/18Xzk04Th2gCtT5hjFq6n8jlGppYuvlXX/view?usp=drive_link
That's only more or less a market cap of $1,500,000 for a company generating mor or less 5 times this number in revenues (Multiplier of more or less 0,2). The issue is the debt.
If he is successful in his life i am happy for him. However his behavior herein was destructive (whatever the company is or not) and my understanding is that he may have been thrown out of here (assuming he doesn't get back in under another alias).
Under his Bubae Alias, he is now very active doing what he likes to do, posting like crazy (121 posts again today) on the site of another sub-sub-sub penny company. His posts mention words such as credibility, dilution, history of traders losing, ... Doesn't that sound familiar?
2 weeks without a post from our infamous Bubae (last post in here was 12-05). I tought he was on holiday but no, he still throws around his garbage posts but to attack another stock (he says he doesn't own either) using familiar sentences (Dilution and Misinformation). Could it be that he has finally been BARRED from our site? By the way he is currently attacking another stock with dozens of dayly posts.
Here is his last posts of just today (sounds familiar?)
Wednesday, December 20, 2023 8:47:32 AM
Post# 7637 of 7734 : New buyers beware of dilution and misinformation.
Actual due diligence regarding two main points direct from the filings and press releases.
1. posts detailing the dilution that has been queued up for this period of promotion.
2. posts that reveal the misinformation around the The Blackstar Digital Trading Platform ("BDTP").
Bubae
By the way, here are his 9 posts of today regarding BlackStar Enterprise Group Inc (BEGI):
- Oh it is absolutely being manipulated. LOL
- These social media promoters have been very effective getting the first tranches of the 698 million shares issue sold
- Yeah, you know how pump works right?
- It truly amazes me that you all seem to be so puzzled.
- YOU ARE Kidding!! 🙄 Has anyone mention dilution here lately? 🤣
- New buyers beware of dilution and misinformation.
- I do not own this stock. -12/20/2023 07:59:36 AM
- At least you have better information for a for a risk / benefit analysis now. - 12/20/2023 06:03:00 AM
- What was in quotes is what I was responding to in that post. You should make an effort improve your reading comprehension skills in order to benefit from my informative posts. - 12/20/2023 05:58:32 AM
Notwithstanding her recently annouced plan to join with a company, presumably aware of what marketing/selling is all about, madam Yitzhak keeps announcing that her shelves acquisition business is growing (shelves is not revenues).
The woman is an experienced RESEARCHER stubborly repeating the same failing strategy, believing that, '' If the product is good, it will automatically succeed in the market''. She has no clue relative to what OTHER INGREDIENTS are required for the company to succeed in its revenue generating objective.
She is so ridicule that, notwithstanding the failure of her strategy over the last 4 years, she only partner with people offering the skills she already has, instead of partnering with some people bringning her skill she doesn't have. ''We partner with nutritionists, pediatricians and doctors to bring accuracy and assurance to our claims and advice. Our team of experts have experience with food allergies, chronic medical conditions, infant nutrition, breastfeeding, vegan and vegetarian diets, picky eaters, and more. These experts come from top schools and hospitals such as Cornell University, Columbia University and Mount Sinai Hospital.''
As for her management team, she carefully created a team supporting her beliefs and failled strategy (develop products, acquire shelves and sell shares)
Key People Else Nutrition Holdings Inc.
BOARD OF DIRECTORS
Hamutal Yitzhak, Chairman & Chief Executive Officer
Else Nutrition Holdings, Inc.
Uriel Kesler, Chief Operating Officer & Director
Else Nutrition Holdings, Inc.
Sokhie S. Puar, Lead Director
Else Nutrition Holdings, Inc.
EXECUTIVES
Hamutal Yitzhak, Chairman & Chief Executive Officer
Uriel Kesler, Chief Operating Officer & Director
Shay Shamir, Chief Financial Officer & Secretary
Hard to believe that in 2023-2024, a CEO can still behave in such a ridiculous behavior.
The woman has no understanding whatsoever of what Marketing/Selling is all about.
The woman thinks that putting boxes on shelves is her mission. Having the box getting in the hands of consumers is the step she doesn't seem to understand.
Will not be able to attend but once again our CEO will enjoy exchanging with sientific people at Life Sciences Investor Forum. Would be nice if she did put more attention to mothers that could be interested in buying products instead of shares. She however will, I'm sure, will love discussing her products with a scientific audience that, as investors will conclude that, if she could only show interesting financials may be they would invest. These people however need proof that she can generate revenues and profits, a result she hasn't proven she can do (after 4 years of products oriented bla bla bla). When I got involved with this company, she was talking of becoming a $5,000,000,000 business within 5 years. I assume we can give her another year or so.
LOL\
I thimk you meanT ''no preaching'' ?
I thimk you meanT ''no preaching'' ?
''Far from an investment.''
You cannot be more right ... it's a BET.
As usual you interpret everything trying to support whatever objective you have, making believe you know better than us all.
The ''Material facts'' I address are your own ''word for word'' misleading statements'' making the content of your posts''.
In relation to your request for ''material facts about this company'', you , as usual only see what fits your objective, whatever it is for whatever reason you have.
Just to put it clear, assuming you need me to do it, The ''material facts about this company'' I repeated for a long time to debunk your affirmations are:
- The company has been operating for years and keeps operating as of today (notwithstanding your hundreds of posts predicting disaster)
- The company has serious dept anyone knows about and that explain the current market cap or pps, based on a multiplier of 1\3 of 1% of revenues.
- The company normally and regularly reports its quaterly an annual financials whatever the ''FACTS'' really are.
- The company hasn't diluted us for almost 1.5 years now, notwithstanding your continuous forecasting up to about 1 year ago.
- Leon is not very much outspoken relative to what his plan is or not (Many executives of sub penny OTC stocks do promote their stocks continuously)
The above is reflected in our current pps (market cap). Therefore, it doesn't take a genious to understand that this stock is currently more of a BET than a ''serious INVESTMENT''.
Therefore anyone spending his life repeating the same generally officially published facts facts, trying to describe the (stock) company as it it was a serious investment is at least subjectively byass or even worse.
I would have assumed that after years of predicting the failure of this outfit, you would have realised you know as much as anyone in here, (i.e. not much) about what Leon will do or not in the future. All you keep repeating ad noseam is what was in the past (making your posts as you say unassailable).
I wish you to get a life and enjoy betting on this stock or, better even, just go and do something positive somewhere else. Your affirmation that you do to help poor new comers is pretty ridicule and no one does belive that this is your motivation.
Not being a scientific person, I am not sure I understand your post ?
California recently banned Red Dye No.3?
Else Nutrition products contain red dye no3.
At Else Nutrition ... we simply do not put any dyes in our products.
'' We do not put dyes'' but it ''contains red dye'' ???
Also: Do you have a reference of where we can find the Dr's video you refer to?
Thanks
They have positioned their funds for recovery if possible.
... loan owed to Shawn Leon's wife
the Leons recovered at least $546K
They are still owed a bit more than $3 million
Somehow they (as you said are not scammers) have put a lot in it to start with and only recovered a small part of their funds and lowns. Maybe they did not figure out they were screwing themselves all along.
Maybe we and they will lose our bets (theirs bigger than ours) but may be they (we) will survive and succeed. That's call a risk.