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Skepticism reigns... too many projections and dates given without confirmation. I hope that they do not release a PR until they can verify and confirm previously stated objectives.
The PPS may continue to slide without a PR, but a vague PR with new dates and no confirmations, partnering companies named, or collected revenue may cause the PPS to test even lower resistance levels.
I am prepared to wait as long as necessary for BEHL to become a revenue generating, profitable company or slip away quietly into the land of just good ideas that did not come to fruition.
If I couldn't afford to lose my entire investment, then I never would have bought into a non-reporting "pinky" company.
As always JMO and GLTA
I agree... I made money on INC* prior to the RS and used it to buy more BEHL. I never want to see anyone lose money. I saw it as a smart quick play, but never considered holding long-term. Good luck and may both companies PPS increase.
I agree...still a small company, but with growth potential.
If DF has a business plan to back up his estimates to the council, then that plan could also secure financing as needed.
If BEHL can prove net profit of $5mil. at the end of 2010, then all the claims of scam, fraud, and deceit should go away.
I will not guess on PPS at that time, but it could get very interesting...
GLTA
This is what I found in reference to DF addressing the city council...
http://www.ci.huntington-beach.ca.us/government/elected_officials/city_clerk/city_council_minutes/
Dennis Fisher, CEO of Biocentric, requested that the Council assist him with the rental of a
portion of a property on Goldenwest for the purpose of relocating his business from San Juan
Capistrano. Mr. Fisher noted that due to SP 7 and SP 9, he would be prohibited from renting a
portion since the lot is zoned for housing with specific lot sizes. He mentioned that his business
grows algae, releases only oxygen into the air, and will employ 25 individuals. (00:41 :33)
In response to Councilmember Dwyer, the speaker mentioned that he was not able to move
forward with the City's Economic Development or Planning Departments. Staff mentioned that
they were looking for alternative locations for Mr. Fisher's relocation and that the City has
a process to change the zoning.
I cannot find any other updates that shows that the zoning has been changed. It also states that DF wants to rent not purchase. There has been no building permits issued that I can find.
BioCentric Energy did receive 2 building permits in Huntington Beach that expired in Sept. 2008. I believe they are listed as the owners of a property @ 403 Crest Ave. Huntington Beach CA.
Just more info...
Question... how much DD did you put in before buying BEHL?
What told you that the potential reward was worth the risk?
Now, has the fundamentals of the company changed since you bought in?
These are the questions that I ask myself before selling a stock that has not performed up to my expectations. If the fundamentals and strategies are the same, then I hold. I will not predict future PPS, I just hope for all that execution of the business plan results in growth of BEHL and with that increased PPS.
GLTA
P.S. As far as the other stock you mentioned, several BEHL shareholders made profits on that play as well. I never looked at it as the same type of play as BEHL. Get in, double, and get out. Made my BEHL shares that much cheaper.
Things to look forward too...
Pictures and proof of a 1-acre or larger PBR under construction... many have been discussed but confirmation that the construction has begun on at least 1 of them might help.
Positive confirmation of a milestone being completed (by an outside, non-biased third party)
FIX website listing a partnering agreement with BEHL.
Updated 3Q financials...
Lipid-trigger test results (positive or negative).
Confirmation that the 2000 kilograms of nutritional algea oil has been deivered and the revenue generated.
It is getting harder to see the pieces of the puzzle fitting together...
This company supplies a product that can be used by so many that the upside is tremendous.
No stock is a guarantee, but I do not see much risk putting my money in IFSL.
Looks like a standoff... not many sellers at these prices, and not enough new money until financials are released.
Hold and wait???
I bought in at .0023. IFSL is still growing and executing the business plan.
Steady increase of the PPS over time is much easier to sustain than large runs then major profit taking.
Most get rich quick runs hurt the PPS long term.
JMO and GLTA
Execution of the business plan will result in recurring revenue.
Recurring revenue will result in higher PPS.
Until financials verify revenue, BEHL's PPS will probably hold in the current range.
For those who bought in higher than the current PPS, how long are you willing to wait, or can you accept your loss and move on? There is no proof that BEHL is a scam, and there is no guarantee that they will be able to produce recurring revenue.
If you bought based on DD and the direction of the company, then hold tight and let BEHL develop.
If you bought for quick profits, sell now and try to catch the next "lottery ticket".
GLTA and I hope everyone makes money on their investments.
BEHL is and always has been a speculative play.
Failure to complete or prove milestones outlined in PR's has undermined investor confidence.
Vague or misunderstood PR's has also hurt credibility.
There is money to be made if and when the company can prove revenues.
Until a fully functional PBR is completed and producing recurring revenue, the PPS will probably continue it's current downward trend.
For me it is worth the risk to hold and give the company time to execute it's business plan. Only time will tell if BEHL can survive and grow.
JMO and GLTA in all of your investments.
The potential is there. Getting companies to invest in start-up or new technology is complicated. They all have to answer for where thier dollars are spent. The fact that these companies appear to be willing to look at the BEHL solution is very encouraging.
I work in manufacturing, and a new product can take several years to actually reach the marketplace (and we are a proven, international, and publicly traded company).
JMO... but to me BEHL is worth the risk. The reward no longer seems to be just one PR away, but steady growth and execution of the business plan will work for me.
Most positive posts on BEHL come from people who were shareholders before or during the early part of the run up to $0.15. I assume that some got in only because of PSC, and others had been shareholders prior to PSC.
For anyone who bought in close to the top of the run, or on the way back down expecting a bounce to new highs, they seem to feel mis-lead by the board and BEHL.
BEHL is the same company, with the same technology, and the same management. The business plan is in place, and progress towards large scale commercial PBR's seems to be materializing.
The construction and manufacturing of a large scale PBR will certainly take considerable time to complete. It has never been done before at this scale. Developing a market for the end use products takes time. Proving the reliabilty, true costs, production rates, and profitability of such a PBR will take time.
For me, I am willing to wait and let BEHL prove that they can deliver the goods. If I am wrong and they fail then I might lose everything I have invested. I knew the risk before I bought. GLTA
I did my DD on BEHL...
I believe in the solutions algea can provide...
I believe that a closed loop PBR is the most effective solution for mass production in a more controlled environment...
I believe that BEHL has a structured business plan...
I know for fact that BEHL is an unproven startup company in an industry that overall is not generating large revenues...
I bought into BEHL with full knowledge that I could lose my entire investment...
I bought BEHL with every intention of making a profit...
I evaluate my portfolio as a whole, not each stock individually... some go up, some go down, some go sideways...
GLTA... work on the things you can control, dont worry about the things you can't control, and never invest more than you are willing to give away.
BEHL moved from sub-pennies to pennies based on the potential of their PBR. Paid promoters fueled the run and many investors made good profits.
The potential remains the same, and maybe even better now, than it was before the run from sub-pennies.
Until a full size (1-acre or larger) PBR is completed, fully operational, and generating proven profits the daily and intraday PPS cannot be predicted.
When proven revenues of a PBR are reported, then the value of BEHL and the PPS can be more accurately determined.
JMO and GLTA
I agree... BEHL is continuing to execute it's business plan. The process may not generate an immediate uptick in the PPS but the longterm stability and growth of the company has to be stronger now than it was before the big run.
Once a 1 acre or larger PBR is completed and fully functioning, the revenues will begin to increase.
When buyers are established for all of the products that a PBR can produce, revenues will increase.
When revenues increase, uplisting is complete, and financials are reported, I believe the PPS will increase also.
The business plan is complex, it will take time.
I hope everyone makes a profit... for me patience is the key. GLTA
I have been a BEHL shareholder for months, and on IHUB for a couple of months.
You claim to know more than others about the company, but to actually say you are here to inform us is insulting.
You question others motives... what are your motives?
BEHL is a pinky, non-reporting stock. It is a high-risk investment at best.
Uplisting is good if the rest of the business plan gets completed also.
Fact: No one can accurately predict the PPS of BEHL between now and the date of record, the date of the merger, or post merger.
Fact: No one can accurately predict the PPS of the "new" company once the merger is complete and the new symbol can be traded.
I knew when I bought BEHL that I could lose my entire investment. I believe that patience will pay off and that in the end I will gain even larger profits than I have already secured. As always JMO
Once again... if you invested in BEHL because you believe in the long term success of their multi-acre PBR's, then the day to day PPS at this point is not important.
One of the major goals set out was to get BEHL uplisted, now that they PR that it is going to happen, people don't like the method they are using to get there.
Once there is a fully operational, fully producing, revenue generating mutli-acre PBR the true value of what BEHL has to offer to their potential customers will become more clear.
There is absolutely no way to accuractely predict what the PPS of BEHL will be between now and when the uplisting is complete and the new symbol is online. There is no way to predict what the PPS will be of the "NEW" company once uplisting is complete.
My hope for everyone who is invested in BEHL is that construction of the first muti-acre PBR begins in October and that it will be fully functional by the shareholders meeting in February.
Anyone counting on making October's mortgage payment with BEHL profits better sell now, or come up with a better plan.
As always JMO... you only make or lose money when you sell.
I ignore the labels... punper, cheerleader, basher, etc...
This forum allows everyone to post their opinions. I hope no one makes their investment decisions based on this or any other forum. There has been a lot of DD done on BEHL by the people who post here. Some represent the positive things done by BEHL and some represent negative things done by BEHL. For the most part these positive and negative sentiments are still just someones opinions.
I have not seen a detailed businessplan, I have not seen the complete financial projections for a multi-acre PBR, I do not know the exact costs of building a multi-acre PBR, and I do not know the progress of the uplisting process.
I invested in an unproven company, in an unproven revenue producing industry, that has no requirements for disclosing their financials.
I invested in BEHL because I believe in the need for the PBR system they have developed, the need for the product it produces, and that in time that will mean revenue and profits for BEHL.
I have no predictions for EOW, EOY, or EOD stock price. I set an exit point before I invested, and am content to sit and wait until the PPS reaches that point. If it never reaches that point or if the company dissolves and I lose everything, I knew that was the risk before I ever bought in.
I wish everyone the best of luck in all of your investments.
David
Still holding... construction takes time, revenue takes time... 6 months from now, if there are fully functioning multi-acre PBR's, I believe we will start to realize the potential of BEHL. Until that point, any growth in PPS is just a bonus.
JMO and GLTA
I cannot comment on if you should sell. I am not selling, but I do not need these funds at this time. I knew that investing in BEHL was a risk. I did my DD and felt that it was worth the risk. I have a predetermined exist point, and if the PPS gets to that level, I will sell. If the PPS retreats farther, I will continue to hold.
Losing money always hurts... I wish you the best of luck.
IMHO... BEHL needs new investors to fuel any type of run North. I do not believe there will be a "fast and furious" run. Solid financials will ease some fears, but will not attract a buying wave of new investors.
A fully completed, fully operational, and revenue producing multi-acre PBR will attract new investors. The construction process will take time. Since it hasn't been done before, we are only guessing at when that will be.
When BEHL's potential customers have proof that a multi-acre PBR can and will generate revenue for them, the sales, revenue, and PPS will increase. Until that time, I believe that the current trading pattern will probably continue.
If you have a predetermined exit point, set your GTC and stop looking at the day to day and intraday PPS.
PSC promos, cheerleading, pumping, or bashing will no longer have a major affect on the PPS.
Believe that the company is executing their business plan and that with time the company and shareholders will be rewarded with increased value and profits.
Again these are just my opinions and I hope everyone profits from their investments.
Very familiar pattern... once the daytraders get a few shares, the PPS should move up slightly. JMO
In the end, if muti-acre PBR's can produce a good ROI for BEHL customers, the sales and revenue from selling more PBR's will take care of itself. There are so many companies that are looking to diversify their income streams.
If they can add a revenue producing product on ground they already own, then the potential for the short term is amazing. The key will be producing a PBR that makes customers money. Until that is proven, the revenue (and thus the PPS) will be hard to increase.
Any milestone achievement may have a positive affect on PPS but IMO that alone will not be enough long term. PR's are a good way to keep investors informed, but expectations for an immediate positive impact on PPS are probably just going to leave investors dissapointed.
Filing financials might help investor confidence, but only if the information meets expectations. How do any of us know what expenses BEHL has. The only revenue announced is $250K.
If and when the uplisting process is complete, financials will be readily available and should attract new investors. I know many very successful investors that just will not put their money in a company that is not required to file.
Long term BEHL will either execute their plan, uplist, and survive, or they will be like many new ventures that don't survive. I like what I have seen so far, so I think the long term upside still far outweighs my potential loss.
I hope everyone has a good weekend, and GLTA in all of your investments.
David
Time will tell... I bought in because I believe BEHL has a business plan that can and will produce multi-acre PBR's.
I am in manufacturing, so I also know that they won't be built in days, or even weeks. Once the first mutli-acre PBR is complete and fully functioning, we will start to get the kind of information we need to determine the long-term growth of BEHL.
The fact that BEHL has companies willing to invest in this with them shows me that the business plan is working. All business plans take time to develop. Wise companies update and adjust the plan on a regular basis.
If BEHL is focused on being the producer of the PBR from a materials, technology, and ongoing management standpoint, these recently announced agreements are enough to show me that their business plan is working.
The perspective owners of the PBR's will need to develop the market for the end-use products.
I too would like this to turn into a winning lottery ticket, but I am patient and willing to let BEHL prove their value over time.
As always JMO... You don't make or lose money until you sell!
There is no accurate way to predict when news will come out. Fluff PR's are not good long term. When there is good accurate information to put out, they will.
This will take time. Construction of the BEH* PBR is still a few months away. It takes time for the new ticker symbol to be handed out. Patience is the key now.
Remember...you only make or lose money when you sell!
I am out of powder, for your sake I hope you get your shares and then we climb right back up. I don't want to see .05 for too long.
The typical early walk-down doesn't seem to be working as well today. Should make it a little tougher on the flippers today.
Potential for a green close with or without news if we can hold these levels through amateur hour. JMO
The building of muti-acre PBR's will take time.
Measuring and proving the production rates of a multi-acre PBR will take time.
Building end-user agreements for all of the algea by-products will take time.
Convincing large investors to invest in a start-up "pinky" company takes time.
The plan is in place, BEHL is working the plan.
New agreements and partner companies are part of the plan.
Uplisting is part of the plan.
UN whitepaper is part of the plan.
I do not know when the plan will be completed, but as each of these get completed revenues and PPS will increase.
JMO and good luck in all your investments.
Remember you only make or lose money when you sell!
My quick little "other" investment netted me another 62,000 FREE shares of BEHL today.
Thanks for your advice CJ.
It is NOT a MERGER!
If we could predict the PPS to rise to .06 we would all buy everything we could and then some (and be amazingly rich when it gets there)
No one can predict the future of this venture. If and when they complete a multi-acre PBR, then we will have an idea of how it will affect PPS for INCL.
JMO
With the name change and new ticker symbol, what is the possibility of an R/S to reduce the large O/S numbers?
BEHL's PPS is up 36% from 9/1/09.
IF it goes up 36% more this week we end somewhere around .092c. Just trying to be realistic with my expectations. JMO
If all my investments went up at this rate, I could sell my picks...
Check the records of several PSC promotions, the first promo usually nets good returns if you move quickly. Ongoning promo's do not seem to get as quick a response.
Buyers who have gotten burned by reacting to late to the first promo are more hesitant to jump in on following promo's.
The true growth and revenue of BEHL will be what moves the PPS higher. It will be more gradual and at times painful, but with time and progress the PPS will rise.
Fully functioning multi-acre PBR's is the key to long-term company growth and a higher PPS. JMO
GLTA
A $5000.00 investment as late as last Thursday is now worth $6500.00 or better. We are still dealing with flippers and day traders. 30% return in 2 to 3 trading days is how they generate revenue.
Buy when you can, it may be harder to move North, but with accomplished results, it will end up higher... JMO
GLTA
When you open with this type of GAP, doesn't the GAP usually have to close before you start to climb? Shouldn't this be expected? TIA
Quinn...
Have you heard from BJ since he arrived in SJC?
BioCentric Signs A Master Services and Teaming Agreement with Gruppo Oil and Energy, LLC. So Gruppo supplies the financing and is responsible for the onsite construction?
Comfort Systems at this point is just preparing a proposal to build a multi-acre PBR? Is there more to it than that?
I agree... PSC can reach alot of investors. Most who get their updates know they need to act quickly, or its too late. If I were to guess, the PPS will probably gap early and then settle in for a green close by EOD.
We know some will be flipping, and there will probably be some early buyers that had sold off during the last run and have been waiting for an uptick to jump back in.
The Request for Proposal is definitely not the same as a signed agreement for building the multi-acre PBR, but I don't think some of these investors care. They just see the name Comfort Systems and think that this is what they have been waiting for.
Once the first multi-acre PBR is complete and fully functioning, then the real sales and revenue can begin.
Can't wait until morning... CJ should be fired up! BJ is here, BJ is here, "meaty" PR, .155 last time, etc...
Sorry... GLTA (including CJ)
Technically speaking, I believe you are right. I do not see anything other than a request for a proposal at this point.
But, if Comfort Systems does get the bid to build this PBR, the groundwork will be there for both sides to enter into a long term agreement beneficial to both parties.
IMO... Comfort Systems and BEHL would have to evaluate their costs on a build of this size before any agreement can be made.
Still great news... and more confirmation that BEHL is moving forward!
News is great...
A RFP (Request for Proposal) is a long way from the project being started. It will take time to put the proposal together especially as this is the first muli-acre PBR.
It is encouraging that the financing must be in place for the project.
If this goes well, then maybe Comfort Systems will sign on as the contractor for the other multi-acre PBR's.
JMO... not trying to be negative...just realistic.