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not as long as we don't sell...game over! Buy @ ask only & no one instills panic, they lose, short over, we win!
Sky
Richard by the way, it is a pleasure trading with you & if I could I'd mark you twice
they never give up until we spank them, so slap the ask & spank their a$$
Sky
you know what I mean Princess Musketeer, & about dancing w/ the Devil
now we need to get them to sell us shares @.50 minimum & up as to take away their short shares needed to cover their position. We win, again they lose & @ this point in order for us to prosper they need to fail. Let's slap some ask & kick their a$$.
Sky
if I find out someone who does, they will dance with the Devil & some here know what that means
Sky
as long as that volume is buys @ ask. Then we move up, because no volume & no sells = no more shorts & they will have to buy to cover their position. I would like to see no volume whenever there is a short position because if we do not sell they can not buy & cover their positions. They lose, we shareholders win as they have to buy @ ask!
want to stop a short before it ever begins, SIMPLE, buy sell @ the ask only!
did not have to work on The Street to learn that but I did & taught my brokers as well!
GLTA
Sky
GLTY as well
Sky
In both companies I first invested in proven management, then their products & patents. Nothing has changed with either! I would be willing to bet that if anything Management now will kick this up a notch as some one is (pardon my French, f$$$in' w/ their baby)
Sky
that is a very good topic to bring back up & a fine read for all investors, Jeff
Thanks,
Sky
you were of assistance as healthy dialogue between investors is always good. The one thing that you & I do not know is what was the par value of these shares @ the time they were issued for their services. They will guaranteed not sell below that pps but hold for their pay day. They both are also wise & if they believe that the pps will rise then they will not sell until that time. A mental Stop Loss, I agree they may well have, but it will not be below their par value for the stocks issued & they will not have one set as in pinks, you never should set a stop loss as Market Makers can & will march the price down to capture them & march it right back up. Happens all the times & they are smarter than the average investor & in their case this won't happen!
thanks for your assistance,
Sky
same response I gave you to the exact same question on another stock copied & pasted here for you as well.
they are allowed some leeway, Market Makers that is, but they do have to follow SEC Rules & some one has to cover within 3 days!
Sky
they are allowed some leeway, Market Makers that is, but they do have to follow SEC Rules & some one has to cover within 3 days!
Sky
I feel so enlightened by your post Re-Read if we has shareholders, any shareholders do not sell they can not short. Now tell me this oh nlightn one, why would the aforementioned sell now into a short that would cost them money. As you so firmly insinuate, they are after profits & they sell shares to make profits, why would they sell low & not choose to sell high!
Sky
btw GLTU
It will be as soon as shareholders of MEVT & AWSL stop selling shares & make the shorters have to cover & BUY
Sky
btw Good Morning to you SW
that's my Princess Musketeer, give'm hell doll & set them straight as we lead by example!
Sky
Simply put: If we shareholders do not sell our shares, shorters can not short!
Sky
HOLD, BE BOLD & PROFIT
Simply put: If we shareholders do not sell our shares, shorters can not short!
Sky
HOLD & BE BOLD
Re-read please! Shorters can not short if we do not sell them shares. Please read the aforementioned post,
Thank Sky
done
Sky
I did not think I had to request, I know what is says but send it to Popateer as well.
Sky
just like seeing what we are all here for! decided to bump this old post back up!
Sky
Good morning MEVT, please take the time to read!
NITE had been shorting this since it was @ .38, with most of his shorts being covered under .50, shares under that were rolling in this morning helping him cover his losses from MEVT's last run & helping him to possibly cover future shorts as well on the next run but they are are drying up. Notice that nice tight spread 49/50 now, then when that does not work he opens back up the spread 45/50 & someone helps by selling 48's. He still wins & profits from inexperienced traders not use to a very well run short game! Anything @ ask or above as been very hard if not impossible to fill because NITE would be selling his shares that he needs to cover his position. but if he can get some more bid whackers to come to .49 or into the spread w/o having to raise the ask, still @ his optimum .50 then he still profits big time. Now let's not make his job easier & slap some ask, forcing him to have to sell as the ask pps rises accordingly. We want HIS hares not give/sell him ours. I know that they will not fill a large over @ over ask because I have an AON offer out there above ask & have since earlier this morning. I have added/bought shares today in small quantities while offering bid support & some more @ ask but only in small quantities (have they filled)just to have NITE lower the ask right after. He is not filling good size orders AON as it will cost him his shares. People if we can slap the ask then we can have the shorters help us shareholders for a change. How? Simple:
Once we start to move higher & the volumes reaches higher than today's volume while buying/covering shorts, he & his cohorts will have to buy in order to cover losses & future shorts. A little ask slapping & less bid sitting will help us get him to buy for us sooner. I hope this brief lesson on how to play shorts has been helpful &now your help is needed to help yourself. slap the ask & make it higher than the ask so they have to be filled, & by SEC Rules that will be @ the best available price, which will be the current ask & cost NITE some of his shares he basically stole from us to do impatience & panic this morning & afternoon. Wouldn't it be nice to have NITE actually help us by having to buy & raise the pps for us instead of lowering it & us helping him? Think about it please, it really is just that simple. Patience = Profits & ask slapping gets us there quicker, not MHO just fact!
Thanks for your time & GLTA,
Sky
It can be even simpler for those who do not want to follow this all day, simply do not sell your shares. No shares, no cover, no shorting!
by george Surf me thinks you've got it. But then again I knew you would!
Sky
saw some on his nose as well As it will be so far up his a$$ when the pps settles
Sky
I am waiting for NITE to lace up his shoes to cover his shorts, which btw will be around his ankles, making him trip fall & lose!
Sky
A quick way to profit from shorters, Don't sell them your shares, make them cover their positions & have to buy @ ask. They have 3 days by SEC Rules to cover their positions. When we don't sell due to inexperience or panic they have to buy & buy @ ask to make sure they are filled & covered. Pretty Simple Actually. Make them help you & don't you help them! When the volume of buying exceeds the volume of their shorting, they have to purchase shares @ ask. Or simply do not sell them your shares, then they can not short what they can not cover & will have to buy sooner!
GLTA
Sky
hook'em while they're biting & cheap
Sky
Now let's land this Green Beast!
The Sky's the Limit but when I do publish that book Tex you will be acknowledged in part as one of my inspirations. You are a good friend of the Musketeers & I am proud & honored to be investing with you! Any time Sir it is my true pleasure!
Sky
Smokin' HOTTT A good Cuban that is A little early but sometimes you gotta bring out the heavy Artillery nah true Tex.
Sky
Now we need the Palace Visitors & especially The Alliance to get up get this board active again & get on with supporting MEVT & AWSL again in whatever fashion their portfolios allow. So good morning, wake up & get to it! I know it's more fun to be up & on top of the world but this was not meant to be simply fun, investing is serious business & it is a business managing & trying to grow your nest egg. RIGHT? Contribute, post ask questions, show others that you who are long have not lost faith. That can be your only contribution to our cause if need be by cash limitations & it will greatly help the pps & your portfolio. Do not sell your shares helps the most & buying discounted shares @ ask of course helps your private cause the utmost!
I had some more coffee can you tell, make that 4 espresso's, one heeluva Mocha Latte I can make here @ the Palace
Sky
me too H-Tex me too! Hope you had some coffee before you read my morning post
Sky
Good morning Palace,
First of all I would like to say thank you to those of you who did not want to take a bite out of my lampshade yesterday (some will remember where I said I was wearing it & why) MEVT is going to make us a lot of money IMHO & for some it already has done just that. As for the Alliance & Palace visitors alike nothing has changed but the arrival of professional shorters & paid bashers. I for one invest in companies that I & others have spent a great amount of time doing some serious DD on. Nothing has changed to make me want to rethink that Due Diligence or my investment attitude toward MEVT. For your information in Canada the fiscal year for banks, trading houses & traders margins end October 31. This week is the time that those entities have to make their margins & to get their portfolios to their projected target in order to make bonuses. This is why we as shareholders of MEVT are under attack now. I do not know why MEVT & AWSL were chosen as targets, perhaps being based & having all the Canadian contacts & soon contracts we do was a reason. For whatever reason there is a way to have the shorters help our/your cause. Should you have available cash then there is no better time to purchase shares @ a short discount ( pun intended yes but I am being serious) as shares will never be cheaper than when being shorted). I do hope you have selected keep on my post contained in a Sticky on our Board. It will be once again included @ the conclusion of this post. If the game plan outlined within is followed we will have the shorters soon helping us in raising the pps. Should you not want to follow that plan then there is no way I can help you profit from the shorters appearance in our play, but there is an even simpler way to play should you so desire, SHORTERS HAVE TO COVER THEIR SHORTS & NEED SHARES TO DO SO, DO NOT SELL THEM YOURS. WITHOUT SHARES THEY HAVE TO BUY @ ASK AS THEY ONLY HAVE 3 DAYS BY SEC RULES TO COVER & PRODUCE THE CERTIFICATES/SHARES! That is the Readers Digest version of the plan contained within the Sticky above on our board. It really is that simple. Shorters can damage a Company but they can help a REAL Company such as MEVT & AWSL & it's shareholders by having them do the buying @ ask for us when it is time to cover their positions, as long as we do not sell them ours @ a discount but buy them @ a discount instead if we have available cash in our portfolio. Attached below is the post contained in the Sticky Post above. I know this is a lot to read this early in the morning & I appreciate your time but we here @ The Palace are truly out to help all achieve financial success in their investment lives & I wanted to try to explain what is going on & how to counter, so as to prosper even further! Thank You & please keep reading.
NITE had been shorting this since it was @ .38, with most of his shorts being covered under .50, shares under that were rolling in this morning helping him cover his losses from MEVT's last run & helping him to possibly cover future shorts as well on the next run but they are are drying up. Notice that nice tight spread 49/50 now, then when that does not work he opens back up the spread 45/50 & someone helps by selling 48's. He still wins & profits from inexperienced traders not use to a very well run short game! Anything @ ask or above as been very hard if not impossible to fill because NITE would be selling his shares that he needs to cover his position. but if he can get some more bid whackers to come to .49 or into the spread w/o having to raise the ask, still @ his optimum .50 then he still profits big time. Now let's not make his job easier & slap some ask, forcing him to have to sell as the ask pps rises accordingly. We want HIS hares not give/sell him ours. I know that they will not fill a large over @ over ask because I have an AON offer out there above ask & have since earlier this morning. I have added/bought shares today in small quantities while offering bid support & some more @ ask but only in small quantities (have they filled)just to have NITE lower the ask right after. He is not filling good size orders AON as it will cost him his shares. People if we can slap the ask then we can have the shorters help us shareholders for a change. How? Simple:
Once we start to move higher & the volumes reaches higher than today's volume while buying/covering shorts, he & his cohorts will have to buy in order to cover losses & future shorts. A little ask slapping & less bid sitting will help us get him to buy for us sooner. I hope this brief lesson on how to play shorts has been helpful &now your help is needed to help yourself. slap the ask & make it higher than the ask so they have to be filled, & by SEC Rules that will be @ the best available price, which will be the current ask & cost NITE some of his shares he basically stole from us to do impatience & panic this morning & afternoon. Wouldn't it be nice to have NITE actually help us by having to buy & raise the pps for us instead of lowering it & us helping him? Think about it please, it really is just that simple. Patience = Profits & ask slapping gets us there quicker, not MHO just fact!
Thanks for your time & GLTA,
Sky
Always buy/sell @ ask & some of these problems would be contained before they even begin. And furthermore in Pinks DO NOT SET STOP LOSSES
a Student sounding like a teacher refreshing & wise!
Sky
Jess there is a mile of wisdom in those words!
Sky
An excellent attitude & wise investment decision IMHO Jeffers. The same can be said for MEVT as well since both plays have come under short attack. There is a way to play the shorts & profit & it is contained in a Sticky Post @ the top of our board. Make them work for you & do not feed them shares due to inexperience & or panic. Also this is very important, never set stop losses in pinks as the MM's can walk a stock down just to get them & then march it right back up. You need to trust your DD & Invest in what you & you alone believe in; a day or week of shorting should not change your views on your choice just possibly how you play it (i/e. your ability to add more shares @ bargain short prices, now held long). The fundamentals are still the same as when you invested & shorts can increase the pps when they get caught just as fast as they & panic lower it. When they get caught & need to cover they have to buy & will buy @ ask. They have to cover their shares & have 3 days to do so, period! Please take the time to read the Sticky, you & your portfolio will thank me later IMHO,
Sky
especially on the Atlantic with the Wind & Solar in your Inc
Nice to see you here surf,
Sky
let's load the boat with AWSL but fish from shore
Sky
We will most definitely check it out Doubloon as your post & recommendations are always most appreciated. Thanks for sharing your insight & knowledge. The Palace is your one stop shop to find a "Wealth of Knowledge & the Knowledge of Wealth".
Thanks again,
Sky
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I'll be betting that you are right surfkast! along with you.
Sky
The members of The Alliance buying group are long & strong & AWSL is going to be my RIM play since you have referenced RIM & it's remarkable turn of events!
The Shorts won today. We are still long for I believe that as bad as shorts are for a company & it's stock, once it runs & the volume surpasses the volume amassed during the shorting then those same shorters have to buy to cover their positions aiding us in raising the pps!
I still say my trading philosophy is to invest in undervalued company's with patents or proven products & proven management whose leadership will soon lead the true pps to the true value of the company. AWSL is just such a company with just such management @ the helm & I am long strong & still investing in AWSL shares.
GLTA it's been one helluva day,
Sky