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At this point imo there is no significance to whether we close green or red...the only thing we need to watch now is for news that will allow the games to stop
Yea don't kick yourself over that...I usually don't even get involved unless there is potential seen for at least 300-400% gains and I'm very stubborn about selling for less than what I want...that little run to 5 cents if I was in It probably wouldn't have even crossed my mind to sell yet lol
Lol good post...funny and entertaining but also true...I guess the best advice you can give is do your best to follow their lead so you don't end up holding the bag like many will which is just a reality of the game...the last run I went on was 2 - 27 cents and I managed to sell about 15 minutes before it dropped back to 12 cents...I thanked god that day lol
The situation seems all too familiar...nite has the power to play both sides...make money on the way down and then make more money upon launching a run...wouldn't u rather launch off a 1 cent entry rather than 2? The sad thing is if nite is controlling the stock chances are things will get real ugly before it gets any better...question is who has the balls to go for this ride and who doesn't? I doooo lol
I haven't had a chance to look at anything today because I'm swamped in work...has nite logged in here? Volume looks a little unusual for a day like this
just from what i've seen before theres always an insider involvement in the scam...im pretty confident our management team would not get involved in something like that
thats an interesting read...good to see the SEC is actually tryin to do something about it lol...but unfortunately for us legit guys criminals do exists and situations like that have taken place...i just like to assume nothing illegal will happen here...i sleep better that way...but im glad we could agree on some of eachothers points...this is how good board convo starts!!
well i agree and i disagree...lets face it...retail investors dont play a huge role in starting a nice 500%+ run...stocks that go on big runs like that are almost always initiated by MMs from what i've seen. you are right...if they continue to pound us into the ground and we dont see a PR for another year i would agree with what you are saying they could very well destroy a company...but the same way they can slam the pps downwards and ruin things...they could turn it around the other way even more quickly after accumulating at basement prices...thats when they see a PR...and it becomes classic buy and sell between MMs to give the pps some momentum and volume...thats when everyones alerts start going off and everyone gets excited and tries to buy in before the run ends, all while the MMs are unloading into it...last stock i was in that went on a run like that was spongetech...and there was lots of these MM shananigans there....but like i said...it all depends on news...and in my opinion we will get it...that is just my belief
"Not acknowledging that VSPC use of PR's, PR firms, and Insider trading and the timing of all these functions and their implication on the PPS for the benefit of selling insiders is also misleading. Arguing with me in effort to hide the truth from newbs is also misleading"
im not arguing to hide the truth and i've never said the statement you just made was not true...i totally agree...but thats just part of the world we live in...it happens every day...hell you cant tell me you wouldnt do the same thing if you had to. dr.k and his team are here to make a pay chq the same way everyone on this board is. i would never mislead anyone...i always post what my opinion is and thats all it is...my opinion...however mm manipulation is not up for debate...it happens and that is fact...im not saying vspc is being manipulated or that nite is definately here to play with us...its a little too early for that...but you completely dismissed the idea of this happening which you shouldnt have.
oh and also..."Man get real there is not even enough volume here for Nite to even bat and eye lash at."
this makes it even easier for them to manipulate price in whichever way they please...they will probably use AUTO to do this if they even do it at all...and sorry if some of my comments seem a little harsh but i find every now and then you make some comments they are not based on any fact and can be misleading to board members who's knowledge doesnt go as deep as others in regards to mm's and the way they do business...so with that being said....tommy you get real and do some more research and i think you will realize that this market is very much mm driven and manipulation is a very big reality.
Its actually very simple when looking at l2 to see what they are up to...they don't need volume to make things happen they create volume on their own that's the whole point....its actually rather encouraging to see they are getting in the mix...thing is they will drag the price down probably quite heavily scaring away people like you who apparently have no knowledge as to the way they operate...I say its encouraging because there's much more room to move up than down which would allow them to make a much larger margin when we get some news and they create a pop...
Sorry my friend has l2 and we checked first thing in the morning they weren't logged in....didn't check since...my mistake!
it can be a good thing when hedge funds get involved...its usually when you see volume start rushing in because of the way they trade...thing is usually they will drag pps down until they are ready to launch it which means more whining and complaining about how dr.k is an idiot and has failed the company lol...someone says nite and auto were working together yesterday...checked l2 today nite hasnt even logged in
"No disrespect to Dr.K's career at NASA and his accomplishments there"
are you being serious??? you're talking about a man whos accomplishments and contribution to the world have probably been much greater than anyone of us on this board. i think for some reason you feel like he owes you something...to pay himself less...or to take less vacations...i think by now at his age and with the things hes done in his life hes earned the right to take as many vacations as he likes...we're talking about a really smart guy here...and yea he may have made a few mistakes along the way or could have done things differently and had more success but how can we know that for sure?? i just think he deserves a little bit more credit than you give him. im still confident in my investment here and believe we will make some money on this...dont let this get you too down...be more optimistic...its healthier for the mind
this volume is shit...anything under 20 mill garbage
with the amount of stock these people own its not easy at all to unload large amounts of shares like that...this is why they do it slowly and over long periods of time...and as long as there is some buyers it wont hammer the pps too hard...i dont understand all the bitching and complaining about them selling shares as it is normal practise...get over it lets talk about something else...and rod this post was not directed towards you i just happened to reply to your post
ive been in hold mode for months too...i just think now is the time to finish loading up the boat until we get some news
yea im with you...some things i've heard lately and unusual behaviour by the company kinda makes me think we see something this month for sure...time to do the last bunch of buying before holding for news
i think i feel comfortable now doing a little bit more buying...i havent seen it dip much lower than this and i think if it was it would have already we havent had news in weeks which is unusual we know they like to release biweekly prs with little updates which hasnt happened in a while...the fact that they havent released a pr in a while tells me something will be coming out shortly...i just hope its what we've been waiting for rather than the same old
im reading them dont worry :P you're not all alone...im just not responding lol
personally when i start seeing fluctuations like this i kinda start keeping a bit of a closer eye on things as it leads me to believe some sort of announcement will be made...the pps just seems to be moving strangely the last few days...
no news is better than bad news...just be happy that they havent released a pr saying gkg is a big failure and it doesnt work lol
common now dont let your emotions get the best of you here...cant bash dr.k for doing what he's doing. i know everyone is getting sick and tired of this but be reminded this is a tiny little penny stock company...in a perfect world it would have already ran to 50 cents with news of a power plant contract and we'd all be rich but the world aint perfect and it always takes longer than expected for things to happen with these little companies...im still confident we will get a deal done here and so are all my people that are involved here...which of course is why im still here :P
Millions of shares are always sold into rallies...when you're getting a hundred million shares trading at the ask for a week straight those shares won't make much of a difference especially if the rally is because the company has increased its long term value in which case the big players may even hold most of their shares
seems to be some odd volume and some action going on...some action is better than sitting flat at the same price with no volume for what seems to feel like years lol
theres an entire market for military equipment left behind in wars...guns grenades tanks all that stuff...looks like theres some new activity here in the stock and even though its gone down...i dont see it as such a horrible thing
Depends on how u look at things I guess...spending money to make money is usually what happens...that's the point of dilution which is why we are involved in these risky pennies...lighten up its not looking too bad here
Believe me it can get a whole lot worse than .019...try holding onto something u bought at 2 cents and seeing it reach.004 lol...so it can get worse than .019 and it can get even better than .10 depending on what happens...that's why they are so volatile...you said they aren't living paychq to paychq and you are correct they are living off the shares they sell...I wouldn't expect anyone but chang to be doing any selling at these levels and I would put money on that...and that's because they gave him shares instead of cash...its very difficult to unload that many shares that is why its small amounts at a time...few million here few million there...nothing to worry about
problem is they own so many shares...they dont really have a choice...until this goes on a real run it will stay this way...today there was a new mm doing some buying i cant guess for who but its not a bad thing...at least someone is buying it up waiting for something to happen
there was a new mm doing some buying today i noticed as well...not bad
pumping snrs on vspc board?
tommy i hope you didnt delete my posts
would you prefer they sold into prs or just sell whenever they feel like?
youre getting sick of what if scenerios...but that is all you've had to add to this boards discussion for months...what if they are scamming us...what if they are doing nothing and telling us they are...what if carl is just getting paid his salary and not doing anything productive...what if this is fluff...blah blah...
whoever joel allen is please send me another email it went to my junkmail folder and i deleted it by accident...sorry
no one on this board should who owns shares should be giving anyone any reason to sell their shares or not buy them...that would be against anyones own best interest and that of the company...so tell me again why are people giving others reasons to sell??
its hard to write an informed response to such an uninformed individual...i know its difficult for you to understand...but one day you will get it
im just going to hope that post was not your attempt at being serious...and that you are just kidding :)
you guys are doing an excellent job keeping people away from this stock with all your speculations as to why they are/will be such a failure...keep up the good work guys
i think when he says joint ventures he means like a partnership on the project...this is assuming going the gkg route would be cheaper than whatever these people are using now...they would pay vspc to grow and maintain/harvest or whatever...and the customer would toss it in their plant and be on their merry way...im not sure what it costs to grow and maintain crop for a power plant per year right now but i guess that money would just go to vspc in return for grass...im assuming vspc wants the company to give them land to grow on as well...sorry if this posts looks all over the place i just finished hockey and im tired