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IN THAT CASE THERE'S EVEN MORE SCOPE IN MY EYES FOR KEN'S CREDIBILITY TO IMPROVE SINCE HE CAN WORD SUCH A POST THUS:-
BARRING JRB MAKING A SUCCESSFUL APPEAL TO THE COURT.....
Proof is his suspicious behavior (as previously documented in a variety of posts of mine).
Last time I took Ken at his word Hockey Stick had security guards, a pot full of gold and there was a big completed contract in relation to a deal with GIMU.
Get the point?
I am not making "serious charges".
Last time I checked I am not the Police, the FBI, the CIA, a Public Prosecutor, a DA, an Attorney General or a Court.
I have stated MY OPINION. An opinion is a malleable thing insofar as things can happen which CHANGE one's opinion. I am looking for my opinion to CHANGE but it won't until I see what I want to see. That's only fair, isn't it???????
It's not "deformation", it's "defamation" unless you are making a point about the custodian's physique. Are you?
No proof? How you know I got no proof?
IF JRB SO OUT OF THE PICTURE LET US RECEIVE A POST FROM KEN STATING JRB WILL NEVER BE INVOLVED WITH IDCN AGAIN. THE POST CAN BE TYPED FOR FREE AND WOULD TRESPASS ON KEN'S VALUABLE TIME TO THE EXTENT OF PERHAPS 30 SECONDS. SO I'LL PUT TO ONE SIDE THE LACK OF A LAWSUIT BY KEN AGAINST JRB, LET'S START WITH A CLEAR POST FROM THE CUSTODIAN WHICH STATES JRB HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IDCN, HE HAS NO INVOLVEMENT OR INPUT INTO IDCN. ONCE THIS POST POPS UP I AM PREPARED TO AMEND MY OPINION. UNTIL THEN......
"but to say JRB was somehow part of the lawsuit is pure nonsense!"
Eh???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
How you figure??????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Isn't a bit difficult not to be part of a lawsuit if you are the stated Defendant?????????????????????????????????????????????????
There's nonsense alright but it ain't coming from me.
Eh??????????????????? Your post is nonsense as I did not say that that is what you said!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"JRB alone ran this scam"
That's just your opinion iblong2. IMO KA involved as well. He knew stuff IMO. All my posts on the subject have shown I am more right on the evidence than someone who takes the opposing view.
I keep saying it and will say it again. If Ken a victim too, Ken made to look fool with his recommendations, Hockey Stick disaster and Ken stuck his neck out in that post, Ken's non-dilution agreement breached so Ken's reputation, credibility and business followers significantly threatened by JRB's conduct, why didn't he sue JRB?
Sounds like a certain windfall waiting to happen to me.
Some guy sued for something as technical as a unlawful shareholders' meeting. Don't see why Ken couldn't have sued for all the stuff that happened to him! Unless of course the defense to that complaint is the Plaintiff knew only too well....
THIS POST IS THE REASON I'M RIGHT AND THAT IDCN WAS A CONSPIRACY WITH JRB AT HELM & THE DEFAULT JUDGMENT WAS PART OF HIS STAGED EXIT.
How does he know this for a fact you ask?
My suspicions were first aroused by the use of his words:-
"I am one of the scammers."
Name of the person?
Just provide me with a $100 million indemnity and I'll tell you.
No dilution? You are having a laugh, yes? There may not have been dilution recently but there was copious amounts of it clandestinely in the year prior to the R/S.
Making the right steps? You are having another laugh, yes? They are not in the business of EFKs which was their original business. They are just the several billion light years away from making the stated revenue they said they would in their Initial Statement. The other business interests they have smack of a load of junk. The CEO has not said anything in a PR over the last half decade or so. The lawyer they had sign off on various letters to Pink Sheets isn't really lawyer. Finally, the annual shareholders' meeting of 2010 is just the 2 years' late and counting and still hasn't taken place.
Share price in pre-split terms is fractionally above a POS 0.0001.
Yep, I don't know about you but I'm convinced by your opinion, my bad.
You appear to have an unhealthy obsession with Hockey Stick. I wager there's more gold embedded in the teeth of I-Hub's posters than Hockey Stick or any former project of IDCN.
Is IDCN in ANY business?
Is IDCN IN business?
TOLD YOU TO WATCH OUT FOR JRB SHADOWS!! THIS "UPDATE" SMELLS LIKE HIM IMO.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=74679159
I disagree with you that Ken is not currently an officer of IDCN but let's say you are right and he's not and that is the reason he shouldn't post. That didn't stop him previously and according to you he wasn't an officer then either.
HIS FAILURE TO POST, TALK TO INVESTORS PUBLICLY NOW THE BIG BAD WOLF HAS GONE IS AT BEST A REAL MYSTERY. AT WORST IT IS HIGHLY SUSPICIOUS.
YOU BANG ON ABOUT HOW JRB WAS THE PROBLEM BUT NOW HE'S GONE ("APPARENTLY") JUST WHEN YOU THINK KA COULD SPEAK FREELY WE STILL GET NOTHING!!!!!! DOESN'T MAKE SENSE UNLESS YOU SUBSCRIBE TO OTHER THEORIES OF MINE....
Why would it be "stupid" for Ken to post?
What is meant to "clear"?
Cat got your tongue, Ken?
Hardly. Ken, where are you?
STAGED REMOVAL!!!!! JRB STILL WORKING HIS FAT MAGICK!!!!!
JMO
You want to see announcements?? From IDCN?? You'll be lucky.
This is a shell scam stock run by people of similar repute assisted by others also of similar repute.
The shell will cost too much money to clean.
The development of a business (lol) will cost too much money to be legitimate if the current custodian decides to give it a go which IMO he has no intention of doing. I mean why bother? He doesn't need the extra aggravation IMHO. He's into stocks, not growing a business. Can be the same thing of course but not always.
Harsh words if the company was say 3 years' old but it's not. It's like 12. You can tell from 12.
The moment Ken issues a written guarantee that JRB is permanently out of the picture on all levels will be the same moment I am prepared to amend my opinion but until then common sense ought to prevail. Ask yourself. If JRB truly gone and a Ken post stating JRB will have no further involvement with or input into IDCN can be done FOR FREE and would only TAKE 1 MINUTE OF HIS TIME why hasn't it been done yet? There's an answer. See if you can work it out.
JMODYODD
"in clean-up mode" How you know IDCN is in clean up mode? Is there a PR or website blurb about this? Who will be the cleaner? Ken? To what extent will the shell be cleaned? Accounts to be filed? Stop signs to disappear?
Far as I can tell the only "appearance" of cleaning is the removal of JRB but until I see and say otherwise appearances can be deceiving.
JMO
See my posts # 6560 to 6567 on this board.
It has substantially misled investors. It arranged for people to tout this stock with false promises.
It was meant to specialize in EFKs (Emergency Food Kits). There are none. There are no contracts despite there being a demand for them a few years ago. There's a supply of EFKs but not from WFSV.
As for the other business interests it loosely claims to have, what exactly are they? Just a load of carp and junk to me.
Meant to be a multi-billion $ company by now according to their Initial Statement. Their accounts show a massive failure to achieve this.
They diluted the carp out of the company then R/S giving a false impression of the company's worth.
Go by the character references of the people who run the company and you will know leopards don't change their spots.
Has Merle Mel ever issued a soundbite in a PR? Not one. What company has a CEO who never says anything?
How do you contact the company to speak to the Directors or the CEO? Where are they? What are their names? One of their guys must be nearly dead now as in his early 80s. The lawyer they had wasn't even a lawyer.
They have no business. It's a scam. I also spoke with someone heavily involved within the company and he confirmed to me it was a scam.
Apart from that, it's a fantastic business opportunity for shareholders and prospective shareholders......NOT!!!
Sandman thought this was effectively going to $75 and $375 and by this time frame, i.e. now.
People need to stay away from this "company" and Merle Mel needs to stay hidden.
JMODYODD
I have no doubt there is a rest of the story but does that really help when the rest of the story contains impossible concepts like the "LOI Contract"? I am only interested in a NON-FICTIONAL REST OF THE STORY.
"I'd wait to view the Wyoming court docs before I'd come to a blind conclusion"
You didn't!
If you did you wouldn't have written an ERRONEOUS REASON FOR JRB's REMOVAL.
You would have seen it was due mainly to the LACK OF FILING A DEFENSE.
SPOILER ALERT FOR ALL BUDDING ATTORNIES AND LITIGANTS: NOT FILING A DEFENSE WILL PROBABLY MEAN THE PLAINTIFF WINS WITHOUT A FIGHT OTHERWISE KNOWN AS THE DEFENDANT FORFEITS.
SPOILER ALERT ENDS.
"That is why a court removed him from idcn."
Utter nonsense IMO space. He was removed due to a COMBINATION OF:
1. Breaching WY company law.
2. Not filing a defense creating a "default judgment" opportunity - works almost every time for the Plaintiff!!
THERE WAS NEVER A COURT EVALUATION OF HIS FRAUD!!
SURPRISE SURPRISE!!
"Asserting that you can't be confused, because you don't have the answers? Am I reading this right?"
I did not say that so to answer your question you read it wrong.
IMPORTANT QUESTION:-
IF THIS MESSAGE BOARD ACCEPTS THAT IT IS JRB PERSONALLY WHO ACTUALLY STILL OWNS THE DOMAIN NAME INDOCAN.COM AND HE IS THEREFORE IN CHARGE OF IT, WHO POINTED THAT WEB ADDRESS TO THE WATER THING?
IF IT'S JRB, THAT'S KINDA BAD FOR INVESTORS AS IT MEANS HE DOES STILL EXERT SOME CONTROL. IT ALSO UNDERMINES SPACE'S ASSERTIONS.
IF IT'S NOT JRB, HOW WAS IT DONE? DID KEN JUST PICK UP THE PHONE AND CALL IN A FAVOR? IS IT POSSIBLE TO CALL IN FAVORS WITH ENEMIES? BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW THEY ARE SWORN ENEMIES AND NOTHING WAS STAGED. RIGHT???!!!
KEN, ANSWER PLEASE.
"1st off, he has no obligation to do so"
True but equally I have no obligation to form an opinion similar to yours or to form an opinion which Ken would prefer. What's good for the goose....
"Who CARES about the 2010 non-dilution agreement at this point in time. What do you think the float will get lowered to 1 billion? It's over. JRB was removed. Period ... move on!"
I care. I think others do too. As for "moving on", sorry, but I don't do requests.
You say you are a shareholder and are satisfied. That is your right space but you ought to respect my opinion that I am not satisfied. I shall only be satisfied when the ILLEGAL DILUTION is attacked. Until then, I believe JRB's "exit" was STAGE MANAGED.
"and that was your beloved ceo Jeffrey Roy Bruhjell who had the authority and used the authority to dilute and pocket the money that he made on a 5.6 billion share float"
SHAME THERE WASN'T A NON-DILUTION AGREEMENT IN PLACE TO PREVENT THAT?! HANG ON!!!!!!
"He's gone now. You are stuck on JRB's way to do business. That's over. There will be no more Jefrrey Bruhjell pump and dilutes."
IS HE REALLY GONE THOUGH? I DON'T BELIEVE HE IS. PEOPLE ARE STUCK ON JRB WAY TO DO BUSINESS BECAUSE THAT IS ALL THEY KNOW. HAS THE COURT APPOINTED CUSTODIAN ISSUED A STATEMENT TO ALLAY FEARS ABOUT THIS? NO!!!!!!! HAS THE CUSTODIAN ANSWERED MY POST ABOUT CONFIRMING CATEGORICALLY JRB WILL HAVE NO FURTHER INPUT INTO OR INVOLVEMENT WITH IDCN? NO!!!!!! YOUR ASSERTION ABOUT THE PUMPING AND DILUTING THEREFORE NEEDS MORE EVIDENCE BEFORE THE SHAREHOLDERS ARE SATISFIED.
JMODYODD
If she doesn't have the uplink codes to the IDCN website, surely it is down to the person who does have those codes (Ken?) to do that?
Also, let's just say she did have the power to take it down herself, do you really think a businesswoman would say no to FREE ADVERTISING?
I agree with your post in the main. It's the characters behind IDCN the problem. Been saying that all along but I disagree with the final part. A shell is better than water. Why? Because the characters who would have created such a R/M would still have been a part of IDCN. This is not a case where a business or any business better than no business. Where IDCN is concerned, the best thing it has going for it is that there is no business to launch the B/S from because no-one is going to fall for it UNLESS THERE IS A CHANGE IN PERSONNEL.
JRB HAS BEEN REMOVED BUT IS IT ONLY IN NAME?
IS KA RIGHT MAN TO TAKE SHELL FORWARD? I GOTTA SAY I DON'T THINK SO.
AS FOR TERI MATHIS, FORGET IT!!
While there is a shell, a viable shell, who knows what the future may bring even if it takes another decade. That's how I see it. That's the best option for IDCN at this point. Some Hail Mary situation which may occur one day...not some water filter.
JMODYODD
Your post makes no sense space. How can I be and how can you assert I am confused if you don't know whether (and I haven't) done the very things you ask about? Furthermore, since I haven't, how can I be confused? It's not as if I have the answers which may compel me to change my mind!!
That goes to your opening remark which I just proved was nonsensical.
As for the balance of your post, I have not contacted the litigating shareholder. I do not know who he is except his name. I do not know why he appointed Ken although given the circumstances he was always going to be the logical and arguably only choice. As for whether I have the Wyoming documents yet, that's between me, the Court and my postman.
I shouldn't need to do all those things, some yes, but not all since all these matters can be put to bed if Ken issues a PR, a website blurb or one of those infamous 11pm posts of his. Don't shift the blame when it's all down to the guy running the company to run it and inform shareholders of his intentions. I have posted this request before (proof below). All the more reason why it is you that is confused.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=73736117
JMO
IDCN SIMPLY A SHELL PUMP EVERY NOW & AGAIN ONCE THE CUSTODIAN GIVES THE SIGNAL TO SHAREHOLDERS AND THAT SIGNAL ALMOST ALWAYS COMES FROM A FALSE OR MISLEADING SOURCE, FOR EXAMPLE GENUINE BUSINESS AND REVENUES ON THE HORIZON. REVENUES? IDCN STILL LOOKING FOR ITS FIRST RED CENT BUT GUESS WHAT AFTER 12 YEARS OR MORE IT CAN'T BE TOO MUCH LONGER!!!!!
JMODYODD
Is it any wonder there are flippers? Run a shell with no hint or promise of a business and guess what you are going to have flippers. In fact, that's awfully generous of shareholders to buy into such a stock in the first place. IDCN lucky to have flippers.
"A "shadow director," as you put it, can make no legal decisions, so it's a worthless synopsis."
You are having a laugh yes? If not, that is quite possibly the most inaccurate sentence I've ever read!! My opinion is WORTHY!!!!!
Every person whether shadow or not can make "legal decisions". We live in a residual jurisdiction so if it's not illegal you can do it. So far as IDCN is concerned, same thing goes to someone who has authority. So all Ken would need is authority or permission to do something and so long as it wasn't prohibited by law it would be fine.
Anyway why make a big deal about a legal "decision"? Whoopie doo! Someone "decides" to do something. I am more interested in the ACTIONS taken by an officer/shadow officer.
Bottom line. All Ken would require was PERMISSION and where I sit he received many permissions from JRB.
Of course, now, he no longer requires permission from JRB or from anyone as such. However, he could still be asking for permission from JRB on all matters IDCN as a favor to JRB. Judging by his 3 week silence since taking over the shell and the history of IDCN I believe this is a serious possibility.
JMODYODD
Rubbish. It's not the label the officers or non-officers give which counts. It's an evaluation by a Court or someone gifted legally. That's why there are persons called SHADOW DIRECTORS & SHADOW OFFICERS. IMO Ken was an officer.
The 2 officers thing is IYO. IMO there was a third. He is currently the custodian of this bloated piggy.
Why does the WY judge need to be in on it too? Quite the contrary. I doubt any Judge in any jurisdiction on the planet since the beginning of legal jurisprudence has ever conspired with litigants where the litigants knew a "default judgment" was coming. Default judgments takes care of the judge aspect every day of the week.
I think you have to admit that Plato's extension of my conspiracy theory makes a lot of sense, but he's only halfway there. He's leaving out the parts where JRB and all other relevant officers of IDCN are investigated arrested charged convicted sentenced and imprisoned under the RICO laws.
The irony is at this point what with Hockey Stick Bele broker support and that wonderful 365 day awareness campaign which was crammed with useful information, website blurbs/PRs about leprechauns, unicorns, teeth fairies and Bigfeet would actually stand a better chance of CREDIBILITY among investors.
I think we're getting close to the whole story now, what do you think? Does anybody else have any "DD" to add?