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We got screwed and unless everyone is in it for the LONG HAUL and when I say LONG HAUL, I mean LONG HAUL. We could be holding onto this until the end of the year maybe even longer. The value really got screwed on this one. Vital Products absorbing Den Packaging and being traded as one company of the the two is the ONLY saving grace. Very possible that could happen, but we got screwed
I hold about 80k shares. 80k shares at target price about .25 a share was doable. Do the math for when I need a to get a return like that. It wont happen, I've waisted a bunch of time it seems
I've been through this situation before. It will generally take about 4 business days, maybe more to switch your shares over from the reverse split. We all got screwed on this. Sell off price for target profit is way higher then .55 a share.
yea end with the garbage quit pumping, this company has enough potential don't ruin it for everyone by posting bogus bs
anyone know the validity of this website? I've never heard of it
a lot of us are getting excited and with good reason. We need CONFIRMATION and PR that this has happened. Does anyone have a time frame for target $.30? That's my self off price
Anyone see the reverse split as the owner's way to raise the value of this stock which is so undervalued?
If they are directing you to the website for information and they haven't updated that website probably since they started it. That might be a good sign that they intend on dropping some news soon. However I still feel that the R\S if approved is for financing purposes
Your right. I am not trying to argue, in fact I have been trying to help you out. There really isn't anything else for me to say. you know my position on this company and I know yours. Unfortunately, it is, in my best opinion, that you are on the wrong side of the argument. All I want to reiterate to you is this:
Look at the company activity. If I wasn't caring about the success of the company and it longevity I wouldn't be putting so much initiative into it. A good part of being an investor is being a good lawyer too. There are certain things they can and cannot do under the law. When i say my money is safe I mean it is coming back to me either through the success of the company or a law suit. I don't think they would put themselves into a possition that would be so blatently illegal... To me the company is good and I am holding on for a good 6 more months to hit my target.
One more thing for everyone actually.
Most will agree I have been fairly accurate with this comany. EVERYONE please understand the market fluctuates going up is a necessity and so is going down. We just had a run of 136% i wonder why it would go down now? Secondly R|S isn't always bad I was in a company BRYN and it gained me a $2000 profit off of a 1000 dollar investment DIRECTLY AFTER THE REVERSE SPLIT.
Charhorse you make good points don't get me wrong, but they are too pessimistic and unrealistic FOR ME.
Secondly and in end to our personal dispute, I did a typo on "phsycology" you were making the point that I mispelled it and you mispelled it. And we all know you double checked it before you clicked post seeing how that was your point so what's that say about your not so much dime store, junior college education?? Some of us are born with the intelligence to understand the world, Me being one of them. I don't endorse things I am not FULLY supportive of so understand that your not just trying to disprove a dime store, junior college student, your dealing with that small majority of person who get's it. "it" being pretty much anything I'm interested in...
What is happening to you people? Last week it's VTLP all the way now your letting someone throw negative speculation your way and your flopping around like fish left in the shallows as a tsunami comes (thanks again stockmonster). You all obviously don't have the back bone to stick this one out. I have stated many times that this is not a technical trade, it is an investment. Plant the seed watch it grow, this company will SOON be producing profits for us who stick with it. Sounds like a lot of people are only on board for when things are going good. IF you can't handle the fluctuations of a VOLATILE company you shouldn't be in penny stocks. What about the information I have used for support of my argument has changed? Nothing, in fact the only thing you can add to the argument is that the company is showing revenue now... SOUDNS HORRIBLE :(
No I didn't take chart analysis in school but I did major in phsycology and I would have to say, phsycologicaly speaking, that your displaying text book competition manifestations in your head. You keep trying to break me down, bare in mind i've been right the majority of the time, and keep bringing the competition illusion up. Funny how when the stock is performing well your no where to be found as soon as theres a retractment you come out of the wood works. It's easy to defend yourself when things are going your way. In fact it only seems your sure of yourself when things are going "your way". Let me just let you know one thing, the market FLUCTUATES it will go up and go down. Point b in two points of a and b is a profitable position on this stock. You should spend less time trying to "win" with me and jump on board (if it's not too late)
Honestly your points would be a bit more valid if you were ever right... I'm not saying I'm right, I'm not saying your wrong, but so far I've been a bit more close on how this stock is performing then you. SO stroke yourself I guess? I will be able to afford someone to do it for me :P. Half of your points are coming from scottrade AUTOMATED services and the other half are coming from SEC Filings which you probably got through scottrade too. All I'm saying is don't knock those who have been right and have been in the game longer then you.
I just want to say one thing. Mr. Levine is the PRESIDENT of Den Packaging. He is also the CEO of Vital Products. two different titles includes two different jobs
takes money to really make in impact, the fact that this company is a green company held no relevancy in my decision but it is a nice thought, and hopefully I accumulate enough funds one day to such righteous things
on the contrary, I 100% agree with you. I am concious on the fact that this may actually be an advancing step for the company since rumor has it the aquisition is finalised giving them ownership of a profitable company. The theory that this could them stepping up to the big boards is totaly viable and I'm anxiously waiting to see how that unfolds however, as of now I can only place that under speculation
The point I'm really trying to make is that I have been following this company since it's been under this new product line of eco friendly packaging materials. they have been prompt and anxious in there advancements of the company. You don't put that much effort or intiative into a company that your using as a "cash register"
sorry again, I'm not a technical trader. I need some chart analysis education, hence my previous post but no one wants to help me! :(
They have not disclosed that information yet. It may or may not have something to do with the aquistion. That's all up for speculation
we had 19 million in volume last week this company started dropping steadily around the .05 levels. This company was able to shoout to almost .02 on it's own. Some people may have been playing technicals but this company is slowly weening itself off of life support. I've spent inumerable amoutns of hours researching this company. I've been in this since nearly february. I would have sold off many times before if it weren't going up
It was fun talk, obviously I know that. I am steady on my decision that this company is a gem, a very much so worth while investment of 6-8 months.
you may not buy it at .89 but I would LOVE to sell my shares at .89 :))
sounds like they are going to R\S, dilute, market again. However, we are getting off of the point. This company has been VERY transparent in reguards to it's financial situation. Your dealing with a company that may not find funding to operate for the next year. You have to understand the process of business. This is a strategic move to fund the company not because the company is loosing money, but because it is DEVELOPING. There last 10Q shows they are beinging in revenue now. The other ones did not. Imagine what we can look forward to on the next 10Q. reguardless, stay the course and keep in mind ALWAYS the status of this company. It is DEVELOPING. The company has so far shown us that it is sustainable by bringing in revenues, now they just need more money to finalize there ability to "stay a float" on their own.
I don't 100% agree, they most likely will dilute the heck out of this one but it's for financing. They need money, again, it costs money to develope a company. However, I do like throwing around the idea that they are aiming for the nasdaq
That's not always true, I was in RNTP when it did a R\S and changed name to BRYN. and that show me up for profit of around $1,700. However, this is most likely a strategic move for more financing. They've stated in all reports that the only thing standing in there way is fund raising.
As I've stated before I'm a research investor. I am not too informed on much technical plays. Could you give me a run down on what O\S, A\S, MM, MA is? word definition too, your math through me off, I failed math
this company is golden. it's a long term investment that is about to pay off. For those of us who have been vigilent on this stock goood work! Meet at the bar for drinks when it's done :P (hopefully soon, i'm thirsty!)
I actually called a few of those companies and asked who their supplier of packaging equipment was and I have not heard from Den Packaging or Vital Products, however Vital could have sold the rights to these competitors making these competing companies the third party. They do state here http://www.talkingstocks.com/?page_id=3 :
E-coplank is a biobasd packaging foam plank used in fabrication of cushion packaging for high end products currently in development. The company has a utility patent
E-Foam is a biobased flexible foam used in automotive components such as head rests. The company has a composition patent.
Enviro-fill is a loosefill packaging biobased foam used in void fill packaging in gift ware and electronics markets.
VTLP's bread and butter is the eco friendly biofill and e-fill products... However, it's not quite as relevant. Two of those companies are advertising that the packaging equipment they use is the bio fill and e fill in distribution of their goods. The only company that is a competitor is EMJAY PRODUCTS PTY LTD.
In last 10Q, 2,000,000 shares were paid on pending aquisition, now Mr. levine is president of Den Packaging? It was just a question, relevant too I think. However, if this is strictly technical trading now, then we should be seeing a retractment?
Is news of the aquisition near? How far is $.30?
anyone see this as a sign that news of the aquisition is near?
WOAH! Can someone fill me in for I am not a chart analyser. I woke up this afternoon to find roughly 11.5 million in volume with another 26% increase. I see a 10QA was filed. Can someone fill me in for on what's going on with this one? Why the spike and will it last?
I've already started doing that. I'm confident the price will rise but it's always good to have plan B keeping you safe :P.
I agree. I'm holding to sell in the .20-.30 levels. The company is holding that potential. Realistic time frame for that is 1-2 quarters. Today we performed great, excellent play for those who got in cheap.
The debate isn't more or less over whether or not our investment is safe. Our investment obviously is safe. You have to learn to crawl before you walk. "Baby Steps" if you will. The debate is now, when will we get this performance out of the company. I am disappointed to say this will most likely require us to wait for the next 10-Q possibly even the next one after that. They have shown revenue, better then last 10Q. A huge concern of mine is the 2,000,000 stock paid on pending aquisition. Last 10Q showed nothing on this pending aquisition. Does this mean Vital is getting closer to it's goal of aquiring Den Packaging? It seems there may be further revenue to be "considered" taking in account the 2 mil for pending aquisition, increase of over 4 mil in additional paid in capital, etc. Reguardless, we are seeing more positive then negative on this 10Q. WE all were a bit ambitious with this one. Patience will prove to be the winning factor I believe.
disappointing to say the least
I'm stil confused on where the previous orders went to. I agree this company is keeping it's investors in the dark. They need to shape up. Are next quarters financials looking good to anyone?
I've already had the 10Q I been reading through it thoroughly. I'm glad to see that we are see some positive cash flow, however, I was expecting a better I suppose? Whats your predictions on what's going to happen next?
what exactly are we looking at with that? That PR has no relevence to VTLP?
What is the stock paid on pending aquisition?