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Absolutely Max. I was first in line on drones as well. While the realization of potential was real, I picked the wrong horse - mine was still grazing when the race gates opened.
god forbid. I was there then. RGPB and its parent deflated my pool of assets then. Just like GTCH, I had big hopes for the cell tech. Nothing. Those patents too finite in the world of cell tech though whereas, not so in the world of chip tech???
Just more confusion. Can't find the answers I need. SHs of GTCH are on overload.
Are we getting back to the naked shorting again! 15M traded. Doubtful that would be retail.
This is a bit off topic but GTCH affords me, if successful, an opportunity to do what I have always wished: to diversify. So many tickers I watch, and have watched 'forever', have, IMO, an equal chance of success as GTCH... but I ain't got no $$!! Quite frankly what I have 'free' to lose is racked up in GTCH. The real one and only.
I would NEVER recommend ever following my example. It sucks! I NEED the action - as an old, retired fart - this is my 'fun', my entertainment in retirement. No golfing for me! Yet, here I am in "boredomland" waiting for my ONE ticker to make me some money so I can play elsewhere too. Make my dream come true GTCH!!!
Ah... my presentation was a bit softer than yours but I, in fact, agree with you.
Have to admit that the knowledge of 'dark pool' was just recently introduced to me. Still struggling to understand the mechanics. My post was merely a reflection of how so many factors enter into OTC's short count that, for the average trader like me, knowing how the number was developed or how accurate it is, should only be a 'moderate' consideration when deciding to buy a ticker. Impactful for sure, but substantive DD continues to be the real deciding factor.
Anyone observing the OTC short report has to take the display with a grain of salt. On a day I bought 10M shares, the report indicated it was a short trade. The Report is practically useless due to its ineffective count, yet I use it as an indicator for such action. If a ticker is listed, I do rest assured it IS heavily shorted with MANY trades in the "naked" category.
Most of the time I stay clear of purchasing any ticker with such a background. Yet for GTCH I made an exception. The DD available at the time of my decision to buy or not was simply too skewed toward substance! I had to buy in spite of the MMs focus on naked shorting. I still feel I made the right decision.
Today's trading pattern seems to be all retail buys. Good. Seems more and more middle class traders are looking at the potential for GTCH to persevere and add green to its SHs. I believe that of course. But I like to see, IMO, that more and more traders are taking a second look at GTCH. Only the time I have to wait for it to happen is the real aggravation.
Not likely msg. Too focused on 'their thing' and their cash is too limited to do any expansion into the dynamics of what additional GTCH patents offer - especially in the chip arena. I don't think there is any advantage to either GTCH or AVAI in doing so.
Wow! we sure think alike can. Read my follow up post!
I might be accused of talking out of both sides of my mouth, but I think a more 'positive' perspective is that while no Big Boy (BB) may be interested in GTCH at the moment, internally, amongst insiders, the potential for a business model is highly respected. Internally, GTCH patents are good to go! Insiders may want a much larger piece of the pie than just having their shares converted to a BB's ticker.
What if they want to shoot off on their own. Buy a patent that seems gold to them from GTCH - sound familiar? Today's AVAI PR looks promising. THEY bought the right of a patent from GTCH...
Are we looking at a scenario with GTCH where the BBs want to nickel and dime GTCH per their perceived value and dragging their feet to get that 'cheap' purchase price? Maybe GTCH decided to give the BB the finger and decided to sell patents individually rather than a package deal. Maybe a small-time chip maker makes a better offer on a share-swap deal to 'buy' (non-cash) the chip patents to incorporate the 'American Dream' of emerging as a major player in the chip market BECAUSE the GTCH patents do work....
Is GTCH now going it alone because no BB wants to pay their REAL worth? Only problem with this scenario, as I see it, is that it will be a LONG time more for GTCH SHs to reap the pps benefit. Ugg! A much longer wait...till bottom-line income is generated.
I vent on this board! Thankfully, I know no one has to read my posts. This may be one of those.
GTCH has potential, I think most posting here believe that. What we might forget is that no potential buyer has to agree with that. Before a REAL buy (or sale of a patent), proof of potential HAS TO BE PROVIDED. I think that is a reasonable assumption.
What we may be facing here at GTCH is that their patents are actually inoperable. That is, GTCH is unable to provide sufficient PROOF that what they have a patent for actually can perform to the level the patent professes! Nearly 6 months after telling the world that GTCH/Tokenize is for sale, it has no announced buyer. These suspicious buyer of patent contracts do not help when the purchase is surrounded by smoke and mirrors.
No doubt, without any expertise on the patent technology, I do retain a fear that what GTCH appears to offer may not hold up in the face of REAL (external) analysis. I have to realize that there is also the 'potential' of complete collapse.
MSG, has anyone found a ticker symbol for the company buying the patent. Just wondering how it can provide shares if not listed?
a dismal thought but ALWAYS lingering in a mind so inclined to invest in Pinkies.
"If they wait too long the tech will be outdated which forces them to get what they can soon or give it up." So true. Seen it happen to too many of my choice tickers. Time is a killer.
If, god forbid, GTCH cannot pull off a sell before July, SHs can kiss this one off. Tech is good to those that put it in play, not just play with it.
werd, I don't think we have to worry about stealing...more concern is that GTCH sells off CHEAP. Big Boys NEVER give a lot of bucks for value if the sellers don't have the backbone to make them pay for long term VALUE.
I remain convinced that what GTCH/Tokenize wants to sell can make the buyer lots of profit over time. GTCH's patents appear to be high-grade gold. Problem is, the BBs want too much for processing it - too little for the mineral itself. GTCH is now in the situation of owning only the minerals - too bad they do not have their own processing means. Unfortunately, it appears the SHs are facing the draw of the short stick!
Not happy with the 8k. $30M counterfeit dollars, just like naked shares as far as I am concerned. Smoke. Filler. BS
I am waiting for real news. Still waiting.
Has anyone gotten the impression that while WE are waiting on something from GTCH, the entire market is moving forward and leaving us behind? While waiting, can we be assured that what GTCH has in store for its SHs will make up for all lost time in the end?
IMO, breakout board is a 'relative' indicator useful at time of decision making...NOT an indicator of direction. Useful as part of DD but it must be considered "too inaccurate" for any consideration of fact. Data is relative in that it is NOT time sensitive but depends on a factor such as 'old data' where timeliness is not key...a moment in time where you just don't really know when....similar to the OTC report on O/S...but still a useful bit of information when deciding what to buy, when to buy, how many and of course, a consideration when selling as well.
See, I can complicate ANY request for a simple clarification msg!
No surprises here. Many to come. When? Maybe next week!
Somebody is wising up - just bought 5M shares of GTCH.
Everyone should understand that GTCH remains a Pinky BET. I am sure of only on thing in life and that is the big D. Otherwise, I only guess. I do have the faith in GTCH necessary to place my hard earned cash. The cash bowl is as full as I can add to it. In fact, GTCH shares is all I own that have any value at all.
With that, I also understand I could lose it all. The slot machine has not paid out much over the years. Of course, DD and reading posts brought me here. I desire to stay. Yet I still have doubts of just how much wisdom is in use here. Only GTCH management and the assets they ACTUALLY possess will decide for me.
I understand that I don't want to be screwed overs again but I also understand I can be. GTCH SHs have to understand that as well. I am prepared for the worse (sounds familiar) but YOU KNOW I am 'banking' on a win here. Hope that is the case for all who tread the waters of fear that in the case of GTCH was needless. We all need this win...
It is a pleasure contributing to this board. I have found that there are a few HARDENED Longs here that have that wisdom of trade that EVERYONE who buys Pinkies should have. I have learned a hell of a lot here over multiple years. Still learning. Understanding does not come cheap. Can't count the number of falls I have had on this Pink path. Like all of those longs here, you can't stay down....just can't! ... Not after learning the lesson each fall provides. Learn to Live (L2L) is a prime element in success.
Good or bad, it is obvious that you do not belong here. Buying Pinkies is gambling - regardless of the extent of DD. Odds are bad that anyone can make a killing here... but we also understand, we get a VERY HIGH ROR IF WE HIT.
Unless a retail trader is wealthy to begin with, like you evidently are, return is minimal where YOU want us to trade. I am here as a want-to-be wealthy. Now too old to make it otherwise. Each to their own.
GTCH will not issue any R/S. Quite sure of that. BUT we will get one anyway! How is that you might ask. Well, it will occur when GTCH shares are converted to the BUYER'S shares!
I mentioned earlier that whoever the buyer will be, IT WILL BE A CURRENTLY LISTED COMPANY. Depending on whom that may be, GTCH shares conversion will undoubtedly be.a conversion factor that is quite high, i.e, a thousand share of GTCH for 1 share of company X.
That conversion ratio, not initially presented in the announced PR of the buy, will be TBD, reduced given how actual retail buys dictate when the initial announcement is made. GTCH shares COULD be in the pennies! The conversion factor would be based on that actual pricing.... OR
The announcement WOULD in fact dictate what the company would be willing to pay for each O/Ss.
Hell, who knows. I do feel GTCH shares ARE extremely undervalued RIGHT NOW!
Remember someone noted that the CEO did not own shares? Apparently, to me anyway, he does now. Also, such a rise was not a result of retail trade, that I could see. Distribution to management of this magnitude, if I am correct, would certainly indicate a PR is very close now.
One billion more O/S too...
I did not just become a fool because I bought more .0001s today. If being a fool becomes the case in regards to the future actions of GTCH, than I have been a fool a LONG time. I think is best to add at this time, I DO NOT CONSIDER MYSELF TO BE A FOOL. All longs WILL benefit from owning GTCH shares, I have NO doubt of that. Only impatience is a factor in my discontent at this time. WHEN GTCH roars, I can assure you that ALL discontent will vanish!
No, just lowering my personal pps msg. I'm here for my own reasons and I have been for a LONG time. I believe in GTCH and what they have to offer in the world of business. Complaints about the trading system retail buyers face has nothing to do with GTCH as a company. Such add-on comments only express discontent in general. Loading .0001s just seems reasonable given my POSITIVE perspective of GTCH expectations.
I am convinced if I keep lowering my personal pps, I will at least break even with GTCH when whatever surge results when it does. The Pinky market is SO MANIPULATED by MMs, no retail trader can possibly predict HOW the MMs react when positive GTCH news finally appears. I have seen (many times) the MMs crush a strong surge in a matter of minutes with their ability to generate naked shares....covering any attempt to force shorts to buy into a loss (a rising pps) for them when covering (returning) borrowed shares.
With such high expectations, I bought more 1s today
Will 1s disappear today? Are we ready for 2s today? ~~~ that is what HIGH expectations look like now.
If I read your post correctly, I would have to agree with you that if we do not receive the needed PR in March, we will have to wait until June or July.
It looks like a good time to say 'Maybe next week'.
Ah, another philosophical retail investor.
My philosophical point of view is geared towards investing though...at least I think so. Likewise, when reading such posts from those with similar perspectives, I need more specifics, at least on this board, to make it more relevant to why I, or anyone else, needs to buy and hold GTCH shares.
Paper. It is all only paper Mad...till you sell. I notice it went back up to .0001. Buy more 1s if you can. Hold as many as you think will 'change your life!" Hang tough with GTCH
I admit I was surprised. Expected a lot more naked shorting.
Well, there you go can, adding to my pathetic knowledge investment base. I have heard no reference to a 'dark pool'. Does not surprise me that it exists but knowledge of it was lacking. Similar to naked shorting, this is just another dark element to short change the retail trader. This is what we are up against, somehow we do manage to scrape up a few crumbs AND if successful, might even make our investing worth while. Thanks for the education...
My perspective MrM is that MMs SELL naked short contracts (supposedly borrowed shares) for .0001. If shorts choose to sell those borrowed shares on the market at .0002 for example, they would then make a clean 100% profit if, after selling, they replaced those borrowed shares at .0001 today. IMO, a few did that today (bought .0001s to close their contract). Most today, IMO, were NEW short naked contracts bought at 1s.
The real moneymaker for these shorts are in the sale of course. Why sell at .0002 when the real gain is initiated when the news of GTCH's sale is finally announced.
During the spike of that surge, retail buyers will actually be buying non-existent naked shares, not the real share at a much higher pps. The nakedness of each of those shares actually are 'clothed' when the short buys back the replacement shares (ideally at a lower price than those naked shares they sold - because (supposedly) actual retail share holders are selling their shares to make a profit as well.
All smoke and mirrors if you ask me. Yet, somehow the MMs make it all work. I think SHs would make more money if it was ALL REAL and short borrowing was outlawed. HA!