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Gracias, amigo.
That's a lot of shares! I hope you become richer than Midas, without the side effects, of course!
I (still) think there is a unique and highly prosperous future for all of us share-owners, but TTCM management has got to stop taking handfuls of stupid pills. Two or three pills a day is plenty enough for anyone; it's certainly enough for me...
If I was really "good," I would have remembered in the "know" category that TTCM did hire the law firm of Pryor Cashman to fix the new problem with the crypto sales. From what I read about the firm, they could, if utilized in a general manner, satisfy one of the things TTCM clearly needs - improved investor communications. Left unchecked, TTCM is only going to further their problems with the SEC. And that is unnecessary.
But, the web app, and its related systems, must be achieved without "delay." 1 March 2018, to be exact. We'll see soon.
"That didn't happen so why on earth would anyone believe March 1 means anything."
Effectively, it may mean nothing. But, from a legal, investor-info basis, TTCM said in their 1/29/18 PR that the web app development was continuing, in spite of the delay to the token sale.
IOWs, they are not connected, and TTCM essentially said so. TTCM is on the hook to have this done.
Don't know/do know...
a smidgen below among a myriad of things:
don't know what the recent posting of a note/debt refinancing actually means,
don't know what "that built components of the #KlickZie platform are now in the assembly phase!" means,
don't know if Honeycomb Digital is still working with team KlickZie developing the web app,
don't know if Dr. Gray is still a member of TTCM management,
don't know if there is a difference between web app, prototype app, simple app, and various combinations of these terms, as derived from separate TTCM declarations of the term "app."
do know that TTCM has publicly specified that the following will be in place by 1 March, 2018:
"KlickZie Network Implementation
* initiation of KlickZie network,
* implementation of prototype KlickZie web app, and
* basic imagery ownership mechanisms."
do know the KLK cryptos sale was delayed from two dates in January, and the SEC was/is involved.
do know Dr. Jon specified in a PR dated 1/29/2018 that work on the app was not delayed by the delay of the KLK sale stuff.
do know there has been no subsequent PR released since the PR issued 1/29/2018; therefore the information contained in that PR is formally in effect.
So, TTCM has three days to get the matters above initiated and implemented, and, if so, all is good; or, if not, TTCM fails to meet the timeframes it has formally provided to investors, and that will be bad.
Then, TTCM is playing favorites.
I sent them polite requests for information several times in past few months. No replies. You should note that I also sent TTCM a warning back in mid-December telling them that if they pursued the crypto currency sale without having the KlickZie system in place, contrary to TTCM PRs this fall,...that TTCM might attract "unwanted attention" from the SEC. (I worked for the US Treasury in the 1990's and worked with SEC field teams on two occasions, so I know something of how they think). But, no response from TTCM.
Mind you, I never called the SEC about this or anything of course, but I was not entirely surprised when the SEC-crypto delay thing happened. Pryor Cashman should stop the recklessness, but who knows...
Dallas66 - can these assets be held in a nominee name, or just in the legal name of company?
"Agreed Gonze777 ! I wonder what the Road Map looked like for the Wright Brothers , Faraday or for Edison? Do you think it went on a straight line or would there have been some ups and downs along the way."
Seriously? None of those three were arrogant enough to compile a specific timeframe for shareholders, But, if they had, they would have been held to them. Of course, none had to contend with the SEC looking at investor-targeted information, either...
Again, from the 1/29/2018 PR:
"A KLK token sale will be pushed off for whatever time it takes to achieve resolution with the SEC, a time the Company desires to make as short as possible. (Note: delay in token sale).
Meanwhile work on the KlickZie platform and app will continue while we do the registration work for the SEC, with the aim to release an early version of the KlickZie platform and app together with the sale of the KLK cryptotokens." (Note: no delay in development of KlickZie web-app).
So many on here accepting delay in token sale as causing an additional delay in entire Road Map (time frames). Dr. Jon did not say that; what he stated is cited above. There is no excuse to not have the web app completed by March 1, 2018, as they have stated in the official Road Map. (Note: you can't put this stuff out there like the Road Map, and not expect the SEC to ever see it).
I have little faith TTCM/Honeycomb will get it done by then, or at all, but perhaps worth waiting a little longer.
If that happens, the pps should skyrocket. Parasites will come out of the woodwork, to attach themselves to this system.
All they have to do is what they promised, without getting suspended by the SEC, which they seem determined to do, of course.
For me, this will be a tax write off, or riches. No middle ground here, IMO.
I have, dude...
care to tell us which update(s) said the web app development was not continuing? Management has delayed only the crypto sale event. They are on the line to get this done.
Eight days and counting...
So...
nine ladies dancing,
eight maids a milking...
etc.
Looks to be a lot of disappointment, more than usual, if web app is not ready on or before Mar. 1, 2018, the Road Map target date declared by mgmt.
10 days and counting...
and KlickZie gave to me,
~twelve drummers drumming,
~eleven pipers piping,
~ten lords a-leaping, and
THE KLICKZIE ROADMAP, with...
an initialization of KlickZie network,
an implementation of prototype KlickZie web-app,
the basic imagery ownership mechanisms, and
all on or before 1 March,
in two-thousand 'n eighteen.
11 days and counting...
KlickZie gave to me,
~twelve drummers drumming,
~eleven pipers piping, and
THE KLICKZIE ROADMAP, with...
an initialization of KlickZie network,
an implementation of prototype KlickZie web-app,
the basic imagery ownership mechanisms, and
all on or before 1 March,
in two-thousand 'n eighteen.
Hi Barb - that would be a great idea.
12 days and counting...
KlickZie gave to me,
"twelve drummers drumming," and
THE KLICKZIE ROADMAP, with...
an initialization of KlickZie network,
an implementation of prototype KlickZie web-app,
the basic imagery ownership mechanisms, and
all on or before 1 March, two-thousand 'n eighteen.
Grand, totally agree with you; for me, I'm still trying to understand this one...
"that built components of the #KlickZie platform are now in the assembly phase!"
It's been months since this came out from TTCM. Still no explanation as to its significance.
Anyway, thirteen days and counting (1 March 2018) until the KlickZie web-app is supposed to be "implemented."
14 days and counting...
No change to investor targeted language published on KlickZie.io. Still showing Mr. Gray as part of management team.
Thus -
KLICKZIE ROADMAP
(1) "initialization of KlickZie network,
(2) implementation of prototype KlickZie web-app,
(3) basic imagery ownership mechanisms, and
(4) 1 March, 2018"
GLTU
"shifting the goalpost again won't fix things this time around."
But, they can fix things. It may be a tough angle for a field goal, but TTCM will just have to kick the football thru the uprights! IOWs, have the KlickZie web-app completed, tested, and implemented by 3/1/2018. (Which means, BTW, it should probably be near completion now!).
AS TTCM PUBLICLY STATED IT WOULD!!!
Tick, tock...17 days and counting...
Sadly true. To me, there is more to be concerned about.
TTCM management is playing a dangerous game, IMHO. Read carefully the text from the TTCM PR dated 1/29/2018:
"A KLK token sale will be pushed off for whatever time it takes to achieve resolution with the SEC, a time the Company desires to make as short as possible...Meanwhile work on the KlickZie platform and app will continue while we do the registration work for the SEC, with the aim to release an early version of the KlickZie platform and app together with the sale of the KLK cryptotokens."
IOWs, only the KLK cryptotoken events were delayed, and (expressly) not the "work on the KlickZie platform and app." And delayed for how long?...until TTCM is able "to release an early version of the KlickZie platform and app together with the sale of the KLK cryptotokens."
Contrast this with the posting by AussieGirl that falsely implied that both the cryptotokens AND the app development have been delayed.
Then, look at the publicly released "Road Map," which has not been rescinded or even modified. The web-app, among several other significantly-related systems, is to be in place by March 1, 2018.
The Road Map is a timeline of dates that was a public issuance to current and potential shareholders, and, if not followed, the kind of stuff the SEC loves to jump on - i.e., misleading info or miscommunications to stockholders and potential stockholders. (Yes, there is some qualifying language, but the SEC takes a hard, protective line in this area...).
So what? Well, if the web-app, and other stated events, successfully take place on or before March 1, 2018, all is well. But if TTCM management knows this is no longer possible, that would likely (again, JMHO) constitute a "material event," and notification has to be made to those investing or considering investing in TTCM. And, if TTCM has already known this, possibly for some time now, and not alerted the investing public, well, I'd rather not think about it. And, all this is all going on while the SEC is actively looking at this stock!
Can we suggest to TTCM management...ask the Pryor Cashman law firm?
You did not give an honest reply, and...
...you just did it again. Changed the subject.
The question is is Honeycomb still developing the web-app? is Jordan Gray still a member of the "management team?"
FYI, I own a considerable amount of this stock, want it to go straight up as high as possible. And, am not buying anymore, and because of that, don't want it to go down any tick. At all.
Stop with the deceptions.
Also, the Road Map concerning the web-app development and implementation should NOT have been delayed. The surrounding KLK stuff was. Don't try to let that bleed over into the development of the web-app. Why would that have been affected?
Nice try. 17 days and counting.
17 days remaining, and counting...
per TTCM issuance, as follows: KlickZie Roadmap - "initialization of KlickZie network, implementation of prototype KlickZie web-app, and basic imagery ownership mechanisms. 1 March, 2018"
(A) KlickZie Roadmap
"initialization of KlickZie network, implementation of prototype KlickZie web-app, and basic imagery ownership mechanisms.
1 March, 2018"
That would be the established time for some form of the "web-app."
(B) Regarding Honeycomb, it is worth carefully reviewing the Whitepaper verbage dated Oct. 23, 2017:
"Honeycomb Digital, LLC The Company has entered into a Pilot Agreement with Honeycomb...to develop a "sample system" reflecting the Company's KlickZie cloud requirements in accordance with the Company's KlickZie and KLK requirements."
A "Pilot" Agreement? has this expired? or evolved into a new "non-pilot" agreement?
I don't think you could answer a question directly if you tried.
Every time you respond there is an off-the-topic reply, with a nebulous reference to some other site or person for more information.
I will re-word the questions to make it simple - is Honeycomb's Jordan Gray still a member of the Tautachrome management team, AND, most importantly, is Honeycomb currently developing the app?
I am second to none in my admiration of Honeycomb's website's listed clients, and in their stated expertise in this field. Thank you for the insight as to the demo you observed and that it gave you goosebumps...that is actually encouraging.
Can someone verify that Honeycomb LLC is still involved? They are not listed on tautachrome.com or KlickZie.com, as part of the management team (at least from what I could determine, I may be wrong). They are listed here on ihub's background details, but so what?
Everything is depending on Honeycomb completing this app!
According to the roadmap, the prototype app is/was supposed to be implemented by March 1, 2018. Um, that's 18 days away.
TTCM's PR dated 1-29-2018 makes it clear -
"Meanwhile work on the KlickZie platform and app will continue while we do the registration work for the SEC, with the aim to release an early version of the KlickZie platform and app together with the sale of the KLK cryptotokens."
Key word "together." No KLK cryptos without the "early version of the KlickZie platform and app..."
Should have been this way from the start, because, among other things, required in order to be consistent with the language of the crypto offering process in previous PRs. Now, the SEC involvement (of undetermined variety) makes this mandatory. drmicro was correct on this months ago.
The Canberra Cowboys are learning...
...that even geniuses are stupid in some areas. The communications from this group is typical of R & D types - horrible.
So, they hired Pryor Cashman firm. Here is what is listed on a secction of their website:
"We help clients take their ideas from concept to commercialization and their companies from startups to global enterprises. Our attorneys connect emerging companies with angel investors, institutional investors and corporate venture arms."
Agree. Hiring this law firm is very, very good news.
"I would not be surprised if the fundamental structure of the token divvy will change if it is not abandoned all together."
Change yes, maybe get rid of the bonus portion; but abandoned all together? Better not. Some investors will have bought TTCM stock based on the promise of the token dividends, via PRs.
But you bringing this up helps show how easily it is to get into deeper trouble, as long as TTCM is managed by non-professionals.
More lawsuits this Co does not need.
"Know what you own..."
You said the above. Totally agree. But some of us don't know "what we own." At least I will admit that I don't know. Do you know what the following from TTCM means:
"that built components of the #KlickZie platform are now in the assembly phase!"
We, and you, own whatever the above statement means regarding the KlickZie system. What does it mean?
TIA
That is a perfect example, Sigma -
Your quote: "that built components of the #KlickZie platform are now in the assembly phase!"
What does this mean?
Confirms for me that these Canberra Cowboys not only won't - but can't - communicate in a user friendly way! They are R & D types. This has been out there for awhile, but they still haven't told us what it means. Helps explain why the PRs, WhitePaper, everything, contradict each other.
Be glad the SEC did look and stopped events...
Or this could have been a real disaster. "returns" is correct - why wasn't everything cleared beforehand? This is my guess: you have R & D types running this company. R & D people are the "propeller heads" that, in the real world, aren't allowed into the board room (because their oversized brains are not organized that way).
Someone seasoned, with experience in this unique area, from the legal/compliance side of things, needs to take charge. "PATB" mentioned where has the BODs been in all of this? Excellent question, too.
First is needed a re-do of the PRs issued, WhitePaper revisions, re-set of every communication to the public. They are in conflict with one another. The SEC eats that alive.
Simultaneously, a legal review of the KLK stuff also looked at from top to bottom.
Most importantly, get the prototype app done and tested ASAP.
IMO
"by the way the token sale is just the same as almost all of them . to raise capital to forward a project. most have nothing but an idea ."
That's the point; this is now changing because of recent new SEC interest in this industry. Plus, in this instance, TTCM stated to its shareholders via public communications, that their tokens were to be different. I.g., "value based," or based on KlickZie system. However, the first sale of cryptos would not be value based, contradicting the whole point of the KLK token-KlickZie system link. I think, but don't know, that was part of what attracted this attention of SEC.
I don't think it is unfair to call TTCM management "reckless."
Yes, a temporary setback, but major.
You mentioned the 88 days reset, that would put it around the original estimated timeframe for the KlickZie app intro and testing (see WhitePaper).
This means TTCM has conceded to reality and will hold the token sale until after the KlickZie system successfully done (well, if ever).
Remember, though, if the KlickZie app is completed, including testing, TTCM can immediately advance the date for the first sales of cryptos.
This is a major setback, but infinitely better than an Order of Suspension!
Dumb move, management...
I don't see how TTCM can proceed with KLK tokens, until...
...after they introduce the prototype KlickZie app. Not with the SEC watching. So, this takes care of the issue I had (as well as others). Management-lite needs to tell us about the progress of the app. Their timelines have changed, so give us the latest info.
It is now clear, if there is no app, there is no company. The company of crypto-currency first - or only - is over. That's a good thing, IMO.
Ironically, as TTCM itself stated in their WhitePaper, cryptos not based on value will implode. That may be happening at the moment.
No fraud here, no halt.
Can be fixed, but Co needs to tell stockholders and prospects a consistent narrative. And, IMO like some others here, wait till KlickZie system completed & successfully tested. Then everything works.
This so resembles the early US space program, LOL! A couple rockets crash, one gets up then explodes, one actually makes it; repeat. Commentary all over the place, no one knows what's really going on. One day someone with an organized brain takes over and, success!
One of the things the SEC is always "about" is company information to shareholders.
Right now there are three PRs issued in late Fall whose context are in conflict with each of the other two; the PRs, as a group, are in conflict with information contained within the White Paper; and the White Paper's date projections are in conflict with recent project schedule projections issued within the KLK "event" information.
In addition to the above, the KLK tokens were to be "value based" according to Company issuances, and the reality is that during the first sales event, the KLK tokens would not be based on KlickZie system's "value" because it has not been successfully finalized, even as a prototype app.
It is not too hard to right the ship by issuing an encompassing PR and restating all affected data involving the coin issuances, but right now we're sinking...
And, yes, the prototype app needs to be completed, and tested successfully, and after those two events, the crypto stuff can resume. What happened here is a failure to communicate.
"or take away a Vegas weekend..."
LOL! My investments in OTC are "my Vegas weekend."
With this 12th hour delay, I was about to go over to drmicro's side completely,...and now he goes "reasonable" on us!
I just can't win...
Grand: Never mind, sorry, didn't see your subsequent post, which addressed my question.
absolutely, thanks.
Except, maybe, for this: "rate is given by TTCM."
Do you there is any real math behind it, or is the proportion a "hoped for" start position, arbitrarily determined by TTCM?
Interesting site, Grand.
Love the competitor's name - Banana coin(!!!) got to have a spine to go with that name!
So, it's showing our KLK at 81 cents? How can that be?
drmicro: "The only way to shut me up is to show me the software I invested in."
LOL! Talk about an overriding incentive for the company...